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savafan
08-05-2009, 07:46 PM
Fearful prediction: The Reds dominate the Cubs tonight and go on an extended winning streak to take over the division lead on their way to the playoffs.

Sounds crazy, I know, but consider:

1914 Boston Braves were 15 games out on July 6 with a 26-40 won-lost record. They went 68-19 in the final 87 games of the season to win the N.L. pennant by 10 games over the New York Giants.

1930 St. Louis Cardinals endured a 12-game shortfall on August 9 with a 53-52 record only to win 39 of their final 49 games to win the N.L. pennant by two games over the Cubs.

1935 Chicago Cubs were buried 10 and a half games behind the Giants on July 5 with a 38-32 record, but won 62 of their final 84 games, including a 21-game winning streak from September 4 through September 27, to win the N.L. pennant by four games over St. Louis and eight and a half ahead of the Giants.

1936 New York Giants were grounded in fifth-place in the N.L. with a 42-41 won-lost record, 10 and a half games behind the Cubs. In their final 71 games, New York went 50-21 to capture the NL. pennant by five games over the Cubs who went 36-38 in their remaining 74 contests.

1942 St. Louis Cardinals were burdened with a 10-game deficit on August 5 with a 62-39 mark, but won 44 of their last 53 games to overtake the Dodgers by two games to win the N.L. pennant.

1951 New York Giants lagged behind the Dodgers by 13 games on August 12 with a 59-51 record In the remaining 45 games of the season, the Giants went 37-8 while Brooklyn went 27-24 during that span and lost the pennant on Bobby Thomson's home run.

1964 St. Louis Cardinals loitered 11 games out on August 24 with a 65-58 record, but the breakdown of the Phillies who went 16-23 in the final 39 games while the Cardinals went 28-11 helped St. Louis capture the N.L pennant.

1969 New York Mets were lagging by 10 games behind the Chicago Cubs on August 14 with a 62-51 won-lost mark before they closed out the season with a 38-11 run as the Cubs spun into a 18-27 nosedive. The Mets captured the N.L. East division by eight games.

1973 New York Mets were 11 and a half games in arrears of the Cardinals in the N.L. East division on August 5 with a 48-60 won-lost mark. The Mets finished the year with a 34-19 record in the final 53 games while the Cardinals suffered to a 20-31 mark during the same span.

1973 Cincinnati Reds grimaced at a 11-game handicap, trailing the Dodgers, on July 1 with a 39-37 record only to go 60-26 the rest of the year while Los Angeles struggled with a 44-39 mark during the same stretch and lost the N.L. West division to the Reds by three and a half games.

1978 New York Yankees trailed by 14 games in the A.L. East division on July 20 with a 48-42 record. The Yankees won 52 of their remaining 73 contests including a one-game playoff over the Red Sox to win the AL. East with a 100-63 mark.

1989 Toronto Blue Jays were struggling in sixth-place in a seven-team A.L. East division with a 38-45 won-lost record before going 51-28 in the final 12 weeks of the season to win the division crown by two games over the Orioles.

1993 Atlanta Braves suffered a 10-game deficit on July 23 with a 55-42 record before going 49-16 in the final 65 games to win the N.L. West division over the Giants by one game.

1995 Seatlle Mariners sagged 13 games behind the California Angels on August 3 with a 44-46 record before going 35-20 to win the A.L. West title, while the Angels struggled with a 22-33 mark during the final 55 games of the season.

RED VAN HOT
08-05-2009, 08:41 PM
[QUOTE=savafan;1943582]Fearful prediction: The Reds dominate the Cubs tonight and go on an extended winning streak to take over the division lead on their way to the playoffs.


1973 Cincinnati Reds grimaced at a 11-game handicap, trailing the Dodgers, on July 1 with a 39-37 record only to go 60-26 the rest of the year while Los Angeles struggled with a 44-39 mark during the same stretch and lost the N.L. West division to the Reds by three and a half games.


Hope I recall the details correctly. The turning point in this game and season was one of the most memorable in Reds history for me. The Dodgers had the Reds by the throat with Sutton dominating 3-1 in the bottom of the 8th in the first of two. I was driving around the Monterey Bay area listening on the radio as Hal King pinch hit 3 run dinger. The Reds went on to win game 2 and never looked back. The sense of air escaping the Dodger balloon was palpable.

If I am right about the details, it was as memorable to me as the Bobby Thompson HR (I was a kid listening to that one.). If I am wrong, never mind. That's the way I prefer to remember it.

M2
08-05-2009, 09:11 PM
So what you're saying is if the Reds can go 45-11 they have a shot.

Hollcat
08-05-2009, 09:43 PM
I have heard of the Hal King HR. Wasn't it the second game of a Double Header and the Reds had lost the first game? The person I heard it from was fishing with a friend in a boat they had found on the banks of a pond. In their excitement they turned over the boat, lost all of thier fishing gear and sunk whosever boat it was.

RED VAN HOT
08-06-2009, 12:37 AM
I have heard of the Hal King HR. Wasn't it the second game of a Double Header and the Reds had lost the first game? The person I heard it from was fishing with a friend in a boat they had found on the banks of a pond. In their excitement they turned over the boat, lost all of thier fishing gear and sunk whosever boat it was.

I checked and it was the first game. It was the bottom of the ninth (2 outs) and not the bottom of the 8th. Everything else was correct. Here is a link to the box score if you'd like a quick trip back to better times.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN197307011.shtml

savafan
08-06-2009, 12:41 AM
So what you're saying is if the Reds can go 45-11 they have a shot.

I'm saying things just as strange have happened. ;)

cumberlandreds
08-06-2009, 07:19 AM
I checked and it was the first game. It was the bottom of the ninth (2 outs) and not the bottom of the 8th. Everything else was correct. Here is a link to the box score if you'd like a quick trip back to better times.


http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN197307011.shtml

You are correct. I was at that DH and remember it well. I've talked about here plenty of times before. It was one of the best days of my youth. I have the home run ball that Davey Lopes hit earlier in that game.

PuffyPig
08-06-2009, 10:11 AM
ALmost all the teams you mentioned were pretty good (above .500) who just go better.

We are well below .500 and suffereing from many injuries. There is nothing to suggest we are a good team just rounding into form. We are more likely to fall further than fall ahead, especially if you look at our runs for/runs against.