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GAC
08-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Gameday Lineup


Cincinnati

W. Taveras cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
A. Gonzalez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .200
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .325
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
S. Rolen 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .143
W. Balentien rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
J. Gomes lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
R. Hanigan c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .298
B. Arroyo p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .135


San Francisco

E. Velez rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321
F. Sanchez 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300
P. Sandoval 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .336
B. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
T. Ishikawa 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .271
F. Lewis lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .258
A. Rowand cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277
E. Renteria ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .254
B. Zito p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .147

indy_dave00
08-08-2009, 05:05 PM
Scott Rolen scratched Adam Rosales hitting 7th move Balentien and Gomes each up one spot

Cooper
08-08-2009, 05:06 PM
I'm guessin the game is not televised....is that correct?

indy_dave00
08-08-2009, 05:10 PM
Not on Fox Cincy

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:11 PM
chat is open! :beerme:

No, the game is not televised.

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Velez keeps his hitting streak going (14) with a lead-off single in the bottom of the first.

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Ball hit back to Bronson - no play at 2B, gets the first out at 1B

reds44
08-08-2009, 05:18 PM
What happend to Rolen?

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:20 PM
Molina dbls

1-0 Giants

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:32 PM
Wlad dbls in BP

1-1 game

reds44
08-08-2009, 05:32 PM
I love me some Wlad.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 05:32 PM
This Wladimir guy can hit. Tie game on an RBI double.

11larkin11
08-08-2009, 05:38 PM
Hanigan continues to struggle. I don't thin we should rule out resigning Hernandez. They both play well together.

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:41 PM
Announcers just said no word as to why Rolen was scratched. But Rolen was on the phone after getting off the team bus, so it may be a personal issue.

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:44 PM
DP by Rosales 5-4-3

2 down

Edgar Renteria up

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:46 PM
Marty and Fay (in booth) say there is no way the Reds take the 8.5M option on Ramon next season. They'll find a back-up for Hanigan.

GAC
08-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Zito sets them down 1-2-3.

On to the bottom of the 3rd all tied 1-1.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:50 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3 in the 3rd. A 10 pitch inning for Zito. 1-1 mid 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:53 PM
Zito reaches on an error by Gonzalez.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:54 PM
Good play by Phillips to start a 4-6 FC.

RedsManRick
08-08-2009, 05:54 PM
Rolen: Concussion-like symptoms.

HokieRed
08-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Marty and Fay (in booth) say there is no way the Reds take the 8.5M option on Ramon next season. They'll find a back-up for Hanigan.

Hopefully they'll find somebody for Hanigan to be a backup to. His OPS is at .737 and dropping daily.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Rolen was scratched with concussion symptons. Does not sound good that he is still suffering the after effects.

Matt700wlw
08-08-2009, 05:55 PM
No it doesn't.

Jason Marquis is an evil person :p:

Chip R
08-08-2009, 05:56 PM
Rolen scratched because of concussion like symptoms. Will be examined in Cincy. Jeff says it is from getting hit in the head. :rolleyes:

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:58 PM
Sanchez strikes out swinging as Velez steals 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 05:58 PM
Sandoval flies out to left. 1-1 after 3.

11larkin11
08-08-2009, 06:02 PM
Taveras-Gonzo are commonly referred to here as the worst 1-2 punch in baseball. I went through all of last nights games to see who was worst and it wasn't even close. Combined averages, Taveras-Gonzo are at .436. Second worse are the Royals at .504 with DeJesus/Josh Anderson. Taveras-Gonzo have 4 combined HRs, I highly doubt that factors in much. So yes, we have by far the worst 1-2 punch in baseball.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:03 PM
Votto strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:03 PM
Phillips doubles off the wall in center.

GAC
08-08-2009, 06:04 PM
Top of the 4th......BP hits his 19th dbl over CFer's head. One out and Wlad up.

GAC
08-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Jeff says it is from getting hit in the head. :rolleyes:

Jeff's or Scotts? :D

reds44
08-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Rolen scratched because of concussion like symptoms. Will be examined in Cincy. Jeff says it is from getting hit in the head. :rolleyes:
lol

Chip R
08-08-2009, 06:06 PM
Jeff's or Scotts? :D

Good point.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:07 PM
Balentein strikes out looking.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 06:08 PM
Gomes RBI single

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:08 PM
Gomes singles to center. 2-1 Reds.

HokieRed
08-08-2009, 06:13 PM
Have they said anything about the nature of Rolen's symptoms? Do you get the sense this is, as I hope, being extremely cautionary?

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:16 PM
Molina flies out to left as Gomes goes a long way toward center to make the catch.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:19 PM
Isikawa flies out and Lewis grounds out. 2-1 Reds after 4.

Arroyo through 4 on 55 pitches.

GAC
08-08-2009, 06:20 PM
1-2-3 inning for Bronson (55 pitches), and we head to the 5th with the Reds up 2-1.

Due up....

Hanigan
Arroyo
Mr OB Machine

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:25 PM
Reds go down 1-2-3. 2-1 Reds mid 5th.

HokieRed
08-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Hanigan, Arroyo, Taveras. It can't get any easier.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:29 PM
Rowand strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:31 PM
An easy 9 pitch inning for Arroyo. 2-1 Reds after 5.

HokieRed
08-08-2009, 06:31 PM
No doubt he's overpaid, but do we really want to trade Arroyo?

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 06:35 PM
Man, is Votto slumping something major. .130 in August. He gets the count full, then strikes out swinging. Make that .125.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:36 PM
Votto strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:37 PM
Phillips flies out to end the inning. 2-1 Reds mid 6th.

11larkin11
08-08-2009, 06:39 PM
Hanigan, Arroyo, Taveras. It can't get any easier.

Arroyo-Taveras-Gonzalez

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:40 PM
Velez homers to right center. Tie game 2-2.

CTA513
08-08-2009, 06:41 PM
Velez homers to right center. Tie game 2-2.

Velez had 2 career homers before the Reds showed up.

KoryMac5
08-08-2009, 06:44 PM
I would put one in Velez's earhole next time he was up.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 06:46 PM
No doubt he's overpaid, but do we really want to trade Arroyo?

For complete relief from the next year of his contract and the full option buyout? Yes.

For partial relief? No.

If Reds can add back in the !0 or 11 million of his contract and avoid paying his buyout, I think they have to make the deal. In today's market, that money can go real far in the off-season.

If they have to pay a few million of the deal to get a taker, I would just keep him.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:46 PM
Gonzalez made a great catch on Sandoval's pop up then tries to throw to first to double off the runner and the ball gets by Votto and Sanchez goes to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:46 PM
Molina singles to left center. 3-2 Giants.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 06:47 PM
3-2 Giants.

CTA513
08-08-2009, 06:47 PM
I would put one in Velez's earhole next time he was up.

Did he pose again after hitting his homer?

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:50 PM
Ishikawa grounds into a 5-4 FC. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:52 PM
Lewis singles to center. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:56 PM
Rowand out as Arroyo tries to field a foul pop up and Rowand runs into him. 3-2 Giants after 6.

GAC
08-08-2009, 06:56 PM
So it's 3-2 Giants after 6.

Would the 6th be considered a good or bad inning for Arroyo? 2 runs on 4 hits. :lol:

Arroyo gets the final out on interference call by runner along 1B line.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 06:57 PM
That was a 28 pitch inning for Arroyo.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 07:00 PM
Balentein leads off with a walk and Zito is coming out of the game in a double switch.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 07:03 PM
Howry in to pitch. Winn in to play right and Velez moves to left.

GAC
08-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Man! Gomes just missed that one. Caught on the warning track against the wall.

But Rosales executes a hit n run.

Wlad at 2B, ARO at 1st, and Hanigan at the plate with one out.

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Hanigan watches two straight fastballs down the pipe. That's the kind of thing that keeps one in a slump.

Reds Fanatic
08-08-2009, 07:10 PM
Hanigan grounds into a 5-4-3 DP. 3-2 Giants mid 7th.

CTA513
08-08-2009, 07:11 PM
Time to give Votto and Hanigan some time off

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:11 PM
Double-play grounder ends the inning. 3-2 Giants after 6.5.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 07:11 PM
The Hanigan magic has been, well, reduced.

HokieRed
08-08-2009, 07:12 PM
Time to give Votto and Hanigan some time off

Hanigan's only had 190 AB's. If he's going to be a regular, he's going to have two and a half times that many--be two and half times as tired.

WVRedsFan
08-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Hanigan's only had 190 AB's. If he's going to be a regular, he's going to have two and a half times that many--be two and half times as tired.

Very true. I got blasted for it, but I had a feeling as Hanigan played more that lofty BA and OBP would drop like a brick. Back to the norm, but man when he crashed he crashed.

Kc61
08-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Hanigan's only had 190 AB's. If he's going to be a regular, he's going to have two and a half times that many--be two and half times as tired.

The Reds will need more than a backup for Hanigan next year. They will need someone to split the position with him, perhaps a lefty hitting catcher. Or Hernandez at a reduced salary.

I'm not so worried that he doesn't hit in the clutch. That will come with experience. I'm more concerned that his bat has worn down as the season has progressed.

CTA513
08-08-2009, 07:15 PM
Hanigan's only had 190 AB's. If he's going to be a regular, he's going to have two and a half times that many--be two and half times as tired.

Then play him the rest of the season and hope he starts hitting again.

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Velez reaches on an E-5- third error of the game for the Reds. All from the left side of the infield.

Spring~Fields
08-08-2009, 07:16 PM
Hanigan's only had 190 AB's. If he's going to be a regular, he's going to have two and a half times that many--be two and half times as tired.

Awe, maybe, maybe not, but maybe his neck problems were more than a stiff neck as we were told. :dunno: So many player injuries this year. :(

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:21 PM
Sutton pinch-hits for Arroyo. Solid outing for Bronson- 7 IP, 7 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 101 pitches, 70 strikes.

Of course, Sutton hacks at the first pitch and grounds out. Somewhat unlike him.

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:26 PM
Gonzalez manages a two-out single, leading the Giants to bring on Affeldt to face Votto.

BCubb2003
08-08-2009, 07:28 PM
"On-base percentage numbers don't lie." -- Marty

Kc61
08-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Votto Ks.

CTA513
08-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Votto with whiff #3

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:31 PM
Votto fights Affeldt and his landing strip to a full count, then strikes out swinging. Again.

3-2 Giants after 7.5.

Chip R
08-08-2009, 07:32 PM
"On-base percentage numbers don't lie." -- Marty

:eek:

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Fisher serves up a bomb to Molina to make it 4-2, then walks the next man.

REDSEER
08-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Do or die time for the Redlegs....Phillips, Balentien, Gomes due up

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:46 PM
Phillips flies out to center.

jojo
08-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Gomes is kind of coming back down to earth.

Doc. Scott
08-08-2009, 07:51 PM
Gomes hacks at the second pitch he sees after a Balentien single and grounds into a double play. Ballgame.

Tom Servo
08-08-2009, 07:54 PM
Maybe if this game was televised I could have watched it and rooted the Reds on to victory. :censored:

alloverjr
08-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Depressing that, even over a short run, the guy that was DFA'd by another organization is outperforming the rest of the team offensively.

Raisor
08-08-2009, 09:54 PM
"On-base percentage numbers don't lie." -- Marty

ok, very funny. What did he really say?

BCubb2003
08-08-2009, 11:50 PM
ok, very funny. What did he really say?

No, really, I could hardly believe it myself. He and the Cowboy were going off on how bad the numbers were for Taveras and Gonzalez at the top of the lineup, and Marty said, "The numbers don't lie, folks. You can spin it any way you want, but the on base percentage numbers don't lie."

Then the Cowboy said of the other team, "You always have Joey Votto up with no one on, and you can have your way with him."

WVRedsFan
08-09-2009, 12:55 AM
Once again the anemic Reds got 6 hits and 2 runs, wasted a pretty good performance from Arroyo, and lost again on an error by our crack fielding shortstop. Even Marty, Jeff, Chris, George, and Thom are beginning to get testy. I just wonder if anyone in the FO is listening?

KoryMac5
08-09-2009, 01:01 AM
You can also put some of the blame on Votto for not coming off the bag in order to cut that throw off.