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bounty37h
08-12-2009, 04:44 PM
I saw in the minor league forum you stated you wore a bag on your head to the game the other day, and got thrown out within 5 seconds. What did they say about it? I know they have "the right" to throw anyone out they want, but the bag over head isnt new, see it other places, wonder why the Reds pulled the trigger and others dont-or do they but pics get out before thrown out? Heck, they should be glad you were there, even in bagged head....

travisgrimes
08-13-2009, 11:56 AM
they said it was disrespectful to the reds organization... lol they initially told me to take the bag off when i refused the escorted me out and said they would think about a short-term ban so that I would not be able to attend a game for a while

FlyerFanatic
08-13-2009, 12:21 PM
they said it was disrespectful to the reds organization... lol they initially told me to take the bag off when i refused the escorted me out and said they would think about a short-term ban so that I would not be able to attend a game for a while

thats ridiculous. did you tell them the organization has been disrespecting their fans for a decade now?

bounty37h
08-13-2009, 12:23 PM
Did you respond what they are selling as a team is even more disgraceful to the Reds Organization? I bet if it wasnt the visitor-friendly packed Cubs series they wouldnt care, would just be glad to have anyone in the stands. Bush league move IMO.

FlyerFanatic
08-13-2009, 12:25 PM
Did you respond what they are selling as a team is even more disgraceful to the Reds Organization? I bet if it wasnt the visitor-friendly packed Cubs series they wouldnt care, would just be glad to have anyone in the stands. Bush league move IMO.

thats what im thinking...a temporary ban? you mean you want LESS fans in the stands? good move :rolleyes:

Newman4
08-13-2009, 12:49 PM
The local media should be notified. That is ridiculous. If you paid for your ticket then you should be able to attend the game.

bounty37h
08-13-2009, 01:15 PM
i agree, i think this should be brought to more peoples attention. I wonder how ESPN shows htose other guys all the time at other stadiums, but we kick em out. Wonder how many teams/stadiums let it go, and how many boot em?

Captain Hook
08-13-2009, 08:56 PM
I own a business(pizza/bar/cafe)where over the years we have had a few customers decide that a company policy or employee or something had upset them enough that they would badmouth myself and the business as a whole causing a scene while we have been open for business.They've been told to knock it of or they would be told to leave.Other customers that are more understanding to what you have to do to run a business don't want to hear that crap when they are trying to enjoy their self for the night.I know I wouldn't want to take my young son to his first Reds game and have to explain why someone has a bag on their head.Hell it might even scare him.I certainly understand what Travis was doing, but there is really no good that can come out of it.If anything it only makes you look stupid when you actually have a good point.Constructive criticism is about the only way a fan has to go if they want to take the high road.

travisgrimes
08-13-2009, 10:20 PM
There something in this country called freedom of speech/expression. Sorry but a ballpark's or organizations rules do not and should not hold more water than those amendments in the constitution. I was contacted today by someone in the Reds FO informing me there will be no temporary ban but if I show up again with anything derogatory like that again I will be banned for life. The Reds FO and Ownership has ran my all-time favorite sports team into the ground year after year. For some of you older guys put yourself in my position. I am 20 years old, don't have alot of money, going through rough times and the biggest way for me to forget my problems is a 3 hour Reds baseball game. And with the product they are continuing to put on the field I can't even watch them anymore. I mean I am 20 years old, I am too young to remember 1990 or 1995 and since then have yet to see my Reds in the playoffs, or hell with the exception of one year anywhere close. It would be easier if the Bengals were a constant contender and playoff team but that's nowhere near true. It's rough for a die-hard sports fan like me to go through 20 years of no championships, no real fan playoff experience or even a true contender. It's frustrating, especially when the organization shows no sign of improving or even attempting to improve. So yeah, for once I wanted to just show my displeasure and use my rights as an American citizen to my advantage. Last time I checked it says freedom of speech/expression in the constitution not: Freedom of Speech/Expression unless it hurts someone's feelings. It's sad to think the only team I root for in town to win a championship in my lifetime is my alma mater high school football Colerain Cardinals.

FlyerFanatic
08-13-2009, 10:42 PM
There something in this country called freedom of speech/expression. Sorry but a ballpark's or organizations rules do not and should not hold more water than those amendments in the constitution. I was contacted today by someone in the Reds FO informing me there will be no temporary ban but if I show up again with anything derogatory like that again I will be banned for life. The Reds FO and Ownership has ran my all-time favorite sports team into the ground year after year. For some of you older guys put yourself in my position. I am 20 years old, don't have alot of money, going through rough times and the biggest way for me to forget my problems is a 3 hour Reds baseball game. And with the product they are continuing to put on the field I can't even watch them anymore. I mean I am 20 years old, I am too young to remember 1990 or 1995 and since then have yet to see my Reds in the playoffs, or hell with the exception of one year anywhere close. It would be easier if the Bengals were a constant contender and playoff team but that's nowhere near true. It's rough for a die-hard sports fan like me to go through 20 years of no championships, no real fan playoff experience or even a true contender. It's frustrating, especially when the organization shows no sign of improving or even attempting to improve. So yeah, for once I wanted to just show my displeasure and use my rights as an American citizen to my advantage. Last time I checked it says freedom of speech/expression in the constitution not: Freedom of Speech/Expression unless it hurts someone's feelings. It's sad to think the only team I root for in town to win a championship in my lifetime is my alma mater high school football Colerain Cardinals.

you give em your number or something? a member of the reds FO contacted you? should have asked to talk to walt or bob c haha

DTCromer
08-13-2009, 10:46 PM
There something in this country called freedom of speech/expression. Sorry but a ballpark's or organizations rules do not and should not hold more water than those amendments in the constitution. I was contacted today by someone in the Reds FO informing me there will be no temporary ban but if I show up again with anything derogatory like that again I will be banned for life. The Reds FO and Ownership has ran my all-time favorite sports team into the ground year after year. For some of you older guys put yourself in my position. I am 20 years old, don't have alot of money, going through rough times and the biggest way for me to forget my problems is a 3 hour Reds baseball game. And with the product they are continuing to put on the field I can't even watch them anymore. I mean I am 20 years old, I am too young to remember 1990 or 1995 and since then have yet to see my Reds in the playoffs, or hell with the exception of one year anywhere close. It would be easier if the Bengals were a constant contender and playoff team but that's nowhere near true. It's rough for a die-hard sports fan like me to go through 20 years of no championships, no real fan playoff experience or even a true contender. It's frustrating, especially when the organization shows no sign of improving or even attempting to improve. So yeah, for once I wanted to just show my displeasure and use my rights as an American citizen to my advantage. Last time I checked it says freedom of speech/expression in the constitution not: Freedom of Speech/Expression unless it hurts someone's feelings. It's sad to think the only team I root for in town to win a championship in my lifetime is my alma mater high school football Colerain Cardinals.

If I was allowed to say anything I wanted at anytime, and at anyplace on this board, I would've probably been banned.

Captain Hook
08-13-2009, 11:03 PM
If I was allowed to say anything I wanted at anytime, and at anyplace on this board, I would've probably been banned.

That's right.The people that run this web site have every right to dictate what goes on in here.Just as every business has the right to control what goes on within their establishment/stadium.The first amendment does not give you the right to do what ever you want where ever you want.

As far as Mr. Grimes goes.I'm sympathetic to your story and hope you can find some joy when the Reds do win and can hold out a little longer as a fan.Sorry I do not have any better suggestions in regards to expressing your displeasure but speaking your mind in RZ is a good start.

Jack Burton
08-13-2009, 11:48 PM
Someone needs to organize a bag on the head pilgrimage to the stadium.

I applaud Travis Grimes for taking a stand, bravo.

Boston Red
08-14-2009, 12:09 AM
There something in this country called freedom of speech/expression.

We really need to do a better job of teaching Con Law in schools.

JWP
08-14-2009, 12:21 AM
We really need to do a better job of teaching Con Law in schools.

Seriously. I can't stand it when people say things like that.

travisgrimes
08-14-2009, 01:10 AM
When they threw me out 1st I was escorted to a security office and had to put down my information in case this "situation" would to occur again. And I'm not saying the 1st amendment gives you thr right to do whatever you want, however it does allow you to say whatever you want. People now are so sensitive about things it's ridiculous and it's starting to ruin this country. We have guys my age and younger fighting a war and will continue to fight many more wars to allow us to have these freedoms. I just think it is wrong that those freedoms can be taken away by business owners, website moderators, sports organizations, etc. If we can't live by the amendments the founding fathers put forth, than in no way shape or form is this nation a democracy.

Boston Red
08-14-2009, 10:31 AM
And I'm not saying the 1st amendment gives you thr right to do whatever you want, however it does allow you to say whatever you want.

Again, you apparently have no idea what the 1st Amendment gives you the right to do. Were you arrested? If not, I'm not sure what the 1st Amendment has to do with your situation.

redsfanfalcon
08-14-2009, 10:37 AM
I know for a fact that masks are forbidden to be worn in the stadium and this includes any type of mask even though it is a bag and a statement. It is for safety reasons, the main one you can't see out of it very well at all. There are rules that you have to follow while at the ballpark, movie theater, play, concert, etc. I am sorry if you were thrown out, but this is a ballpark rule.

Newman4
08-14-2009, 10:38 AM
I don't like Cubs fans coming to Reds games, but they don't throw them out because they are wearing a Cubs shirt. Should be no different for Travis. Apparently some of the law gurus on this board need to look up discrimination suits and actually see what some folks have won cases based on.

Boston Red
08-14-2009, 10:41 AM
Apparently some of the law gurus on this board need to look up discrimination suits and actually see what some folks have won cases based on.

Is there a case out there that says paper bag wearers are a protected class?

Boston Red
08-14-2009, 10:45 AM
BTW, I think it was idiotic for them to actually throw you out for wearing the paper bag. However, there's no question they had the right to do it.

Plus Plus
08-14-2009, 10:51 AM
A ballpark is considered private property, no? Because I think that is why they were able to throw you out...

Not agreeing with their decision, just saying...

Jack Burton
08-14-2009, 12:14 PM
Next time just bring in some signs. Such as;

Bob Castellini is a MORON!
FIRE DUSTY!
Dick Pole?
Jacoby plays in sewage.
Boycott GABP!
Walt Jockerty is the stepchild of Richard Simmons.

See how those go over, have your buddies bring in a few also.

travisgrimes
08-14-2009, 12:37 PM
I was thinkin of making a sign like this:

Willy Taveras? Where's Corey Patterson when you need him?

Jack Burton
08-14-2009, 01:21 PM
I was thinkin of making a sign like this:

Willy Taveras? Where's Corey Patterson when you need him?

Do it, I don't think they can kick you out if you ain't wearing a mask.

travisgrimes
08-14-2009, 03:11 PM
or maybe a sign reading...

I thought I was coming to see the Cincinnati Reds and all I got was the Louisville Bats JV team

bounty37h
08-18-2009, 10:33 AM
^Thats simply not fair to Louisville.

Old NDN
08-18-2009, 11:33 AM
Next time just bring in some signs. Such as;

Bob Castellini is a MORON!
FIRE DUSTY!
Dick Pole?
Jacoby plays in sewage.
Boycott GABP!
Walt Jockerty is the stepchild of Richard Simmons.

See how those go over, have your buddies bring in a few also.

Good idea. But that means you would actually have to buy a ticket. I'm not ready to spend another dollar on the Reds until I'm convinced they are really trying to improve this club and not just "running in place."