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GIDP
08-16-2009, 05:40 PM
As if Fays story yesterday wasnt enough, other writers are getting in on the action.

Hal Mccoy yesterday
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/08/15/lineup_card_scribbling_101.html?cxtype=feedbot


ďI talk to the players about all this, but as manager I donít have to talk to anybody about anything,Ē Baker said. ďItís just Iíve always done as a manager. As a player you always like to know why things were done.:

Uh, well, OK. Is it really that complicated. Iím no manager (my card expired in 1982), but it just doesnít seem THAT complicated, especially when youíre 156 games under .500 and 14 games out of first place on August 15.

Fay today on his blog after the game
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=blog07&plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3ae57bcc87-152a-4f72-96fb-cc08b1f396efPost%3a3bb95c31-e829-466c-9cc2-6358527094a9&sid=sitelife.cincinnati.com

What a way to lose a game.


The Reds were leading 4-3 in the eighth. Nick Masset got an out to start the inning.


Dusty Baker brought in Arthur Rhodes to face Adam Dunn to get left-on-left matchup.


Rhodes hit Dunn with the first pitch.


So much for the percentages. Rhodeswould have to face righties the rest of the inning.




Go get em boys!

Slyder
08-16-2009, 05:44 PM
Theres plenty of room on "Straight out of town" Express.

mroby85
08-16-2009, 06:09 PM
So easy to sit back and point out things like this. Arthur Rhodes has probably been a better pitcher against Righties than Nick Massett if I were to guess this year? + there was a lefty that has the pop to tie the game at the plate, along with a tendency to strike out agains a tough left hander, but they're right, that move was totally stupid. :rolleyes:

Jack Burton
08-16-2009, 06:11 PM
Took 'em long enough, dusty should have been fired last year. Worst manager in the bigs.

LouisvilleCARDS
08-16-2009, 06:47 PM
When we first hired Dusty, I didn't think it was a bad hire. Wow, have things changed. How has this guy been the only guy to win a playoff series with Chicago in 100 years, was a blown inning away from a World Series with that team, another blown inning away from winning the World Series with the Giants, and a 3 time manager of the year.

I don't get it, maybe on teams already built for success who just need a players manager, he can succeed. I don't see why he continues to put the two worst possible players and has the worst two players statistically batting #1 and #2 in the order EVERY TIME.

Jack Burton
08-16-2009, 06:59 PM
When we first hired Dusty, I didn't think it was a bad hire. Wow, have things changed. How has this guy been the only guy to win a playoff series with Chicago in 100 years, was a blown inning away from a World Series with that team, another blown inning away from winning the World Series with the Giants, and a 3 time manager of the year.

I don't get it, maybe on teams already built for success who just need a players manager, he can succeed. I don't see why he continues to put the two worst possible players and has the worst two players statistically batting #1 and #2 in the order EVERY TIME.

Steroids played a big part in dusty's success.

LouisvilleCARDS
08-16-2009, 07:09 PM
Steroids played a big part in dusty's success.

Eh, thats a copout to say it was just because of Bonds. I mean in 1993 he turned around the Giants and they won 31 more games than the previous year. It's not like the guy has had bad years constantly as a manager, its just he doesn't exactly make a team like the Reds better. With how crappy the roster is, he just makes it worse with some of his moves.

He's a players manager, and for some teams thats all thats needed. On teams with a lot of primma donnas he could do well. If he was the manager for the BoSox while Manny was there, I'm sure he could have probably found a way to smooth it over.

malcontent
08-16-2009, 07:44 PM
ďI talk to the players about all this, but as manager I donít have to talk to anybody about anything,Ē Baker said.

Read: "I have neither the time nor the mental capacity to explain my managerial strategy."

texasdave
08-16-2009, 08:43 PM
ďI talk to the players about all this, but as manager I donít have to talk to anybody about anything,Ē Baker said.

Read: "I have neither the time nor the mental capacity to explain my managerial strategy."

Bakermetrics is college-level material, dude.

malcontent
08-17-2009, 02:40 AM
Bakermetrics is college-level material, dude.

Over my head, for sure.

Kingspoint
08-17-2009, 10:42 PM
Good.

edogg07
08-19-2009, 09:21 PM
Im so glad hal mccoy is retiring its just 15 years too late he is an idoit

CesarGeronimo
08-19-2009, 10:35 PM
Im so glad hal mccoy is retiring its just 15 years too late he is an idoit

yes, an "idoit." no duobt.