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Red in Chicago
08-18-2009, 07:48 PM
Chris Dickerson rf
Willy Taveras cf
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Wladimir Balentien lf
Adam Rosales 3b
Ryan Hanigan c
Paul Janish ss
Homer Bailey p

vs. RH Tim Lincecum (12-3, 2.19)

GAC
08-18-2009, 08:02 PM
San Francisco
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
E. Velez lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
E. Renteria ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .259
P. Sandoval 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .329
B. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
R. Winn rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .266
R. Garko 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .208
A. Rowand cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273
J. Uribe 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
T. Lincecum p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .180


Cincinnati
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
C. Dickerson rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
W. Taveras cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .240
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .318
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
W. Balentien lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .312
A. Rosales 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .209
R. Hanigan c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
P. Janish ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .212
H. Bailey p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

Chip R
08-18-2009, 08:16 PM
Velez grounds to SS
Renteria lines to RF
Sandoval Ks

VR
08-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Hey Homer....we need you to throw a shutout for us to have any chance.

Now relax, and go out there and pitch.

Chip R
08-18-2009, 08:23 PM
Reds go down in order. What else is new?

dougdirt
08-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Are we really trying to sac bunt so our 7-8-9 hitters come up?

VR
08-18-2009, 08:41 PM
That's already Janish's 4th RBI this year.

Kc61
08-18-2009, 08:41 PM
It worked. A run.

This pitcher has no control. He's no Stubbs.

redsmetz
08-18-2009, 08:42 PM
Homer knocks in two with a hit.

VR
08-18-2009, 08:43 PM
That's the 1st break the Reds have had since May.

VR
08-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Wily Taveras. Rally killer. Wow.
Go up swinging at 1st pitch. Really?

redsmetz
08-18-2009, 08:48 PM
BTW, Dickerson knocked in Janish before WT went up there hacking on the first pitch.

SirFelixCat
08-18-2009, 08:49 PM
Dickerson w/ a RBI single...


Then, w/ a seriously struggling pitcher, Willy goes up there and pops up the first pitch to 2nd. I mean, talent and all that aside, you just can't be that damn stupid. Just no excuse for dumb play...none whatsoever.

mbgrayson
08-18-2009, 08:49 PM
And in the middle of a big inning, Taveras comes up, and swings at the first pitch, popping out weakly to second.

Votto then grounds to 2nd.

Reds still score 4 runs.

Reds 4, Giants 0.

redsmetz
08-18-2009, 08:49 PM
After 2, Reds 4, Really Tall People 0

VR
08-18-2009, 08:51 PM
Dickerson w/ a RBI single...


Then, w/ a seriously struggling pitcher, Willy goes up there and pops up the first pitch to 2nd. I mean, talent and all that aside, you just can't be that damn stupid. Just no excuse for dumb play...none whatsoever.

A tolerated culture. Why teach discipline?

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 08:53 PM
Bot 2nd: Cincinnati
- P. Janish walked, B. Phillips scored, W. Balentien to third, R. Hanigan to second

- H. Bailey singled to shallow right, W. Balentien and R. Hanigan scored, P. Janish to third

- C. Dickerson singled to shallow right center, P. Janish scored, H. Bailey to second

I love it when things work out for our side.

_Sir_Charles_
08-18-2009, 08:56 PM
I just tuned in, how come the Giants manager was tossed on Bailey's single? Close play at home or something?

11larkin11
08-18-2009, 08:57 PM
I just tuned in, how come the Giants manager was tossed on Bailey's single? Close play at home or something?

Questioned whether or not it was fair

_Sir_Charles_
08-18-2009, 08:57 PM
Ah. Gotcha. Thanks.

mbgrayson
08-18-2009, 09:06 PM
Both Phillips and Rosales swing at the first pitch and make outs, and Balentin strikes out swinging. Six pitch inning for Lincecum....

lollipopcurve
08-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Nice interview with the top two draftees. Gotta like Mike Leake. You can see the confidence/attitude. Boxberger, well, he looked a little scared.

mbgrayson
08-18-2009, 09:16 PM
Through 3.5 innings, Reds 4, Giants 1.

Lincecum has thrown 53 pitches, 29 strikes, 2 BB, 2 Ks, and 4 hits.
Homer has thrown 54 pitches, 34 strikes, 1 BB, 2 Ks, and 3 hits.

Always Red
08-18-2009, 09:17 PM
I really like Jim Kelch; he does an excellent job, and seems to want to work when everyone else wants off.

BTW- Votto is going full Monty tonight- stirrups and sanitary hose. It's a great look, IMO.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:27 PM
Just an observation.....but the Giants players look very comfortable up there, and are getting some big hacks against Homer.

11larkin11
08-18-2009, 09:29 PM
Nice interview with the top two draftees. Gotta like Mike Leake. You can see the confidence/attitude. Boxberger, well, he looked a little scared.

Kinda reverse of what you would expect. Boxberger doesn't throw that hard, but he reaches 94 and is regarded as the "power" pitcher between the two, which usually instills confidence and a little cockiness. Of course, Leake knows how to be on the big stage.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:32 PM
Joey gets in to one. Nice to see off Lincecum.

lollipopcurve
08-18-2009, 09:36 PM
Just an observation.....but the Giants players look very comfortable up there, and are getting some big hacks against Homer.

Not really. When they guess fastball and get fastball, the hack looks good. But they're not squaring it up much at all. 1 EBH on a bad mistake so far, and no balls to the track.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:39 PM
Not really. When they guess fastball and get fastball, the hack looks good. But they're not squaring it up much at all. 1 EBH on a bad mistake so far, and no balls to the track.

I'm just judging on the 'from the heels' swings I've seen from Uribe, Rowand, Sandoval and Garko.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:40 PM
I'm just judging on the 'from the heels' swings I've seen from Uribe, Rowand, Sandoval and Garko.

and Velez....and Renteria

Homer Bailey
08-18-2009, 09:41 PM
Not able to tune in on the road tonight.... how do I look tonight?

VR
08-18-2009, 09:44 PM
Not able to tune in on the road tonight.... how do I look tonight?

Pretty good Homer. You just struck out Sandoval with 2 on, showed us something right there.

CTA513
08-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Tie game after Bailey falls apart with 2 outs.

backbencher
08-18-2009, 09:51 PM
I didn't know it was possible to walk Bengie Molina twice in one game.

Homer Bailey
08-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Pretty good Homer. You just struck out Sandoval with 2 on, showed us something right there.

Splitter doin anything tonight? Better command?

CrackerJack
08-18-2009, 09:53 PM
Splitter doin anything tonight? Better command?

Turned into a pumpkin in the 6th inning, 5-5 game now.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:55 PM
I hate when I'm right. Every single batter looked like they were hitting off a tee. He's either tipping his pitches, or not mixing up speeds nearly enough.

Results were good early, but destined to catch up.

VR
08-18-2009, 09:57 PM
Splitter doin anything tonight? Better command?

His setup pitches are so far off the plate, they are useless. Not able to set up a batter when you aren't pounding the zone.

Homer Bailey
08-18-2009, 09:59 PM
Lol haven't followed a game in about a month as it just isn't worth it anymore. I'm enjoyin a jack on the rocks and I see the Reds are up 4-1 so I decide to take dabble and follow a bit.

5-5 game. Point proven. It's not worth it. Let's play for the draft pick!

KronoRed
08-18-2009, 10:07 PM
Looks like a nice crowd of dozens there tonight.

WVRedsFan
08-18-2009, 10:12 PM
I hate to say it, but I've believed for a long time that Homer will never, ever be anything more than a bullpen arm if that.

reds44
08-18-2009, 10:16 PM
I hate to say it, but I've believed for a long time that Homer will never, ever be anything more than a bullpen arm if that.
Yep. He's shon nothing as a starter.

lollipopcurve
08-18-2009, 10:23 PM
I hate to say it, but I've believed for a long time that Homer will never, ever be anything more than a bullpen arm if that.

You don't think he looked pretty solid for 5 and 2/3s tonight?

WVRedsFan
08-18-2009, 10:25 PM
You don't think he looked pretty solid for 5 and 2/3s tonight?

I thought he got hit pretty hard. His luck ran out. He developed the splitter, but VR pointed out that he doesn't set up that pitch with strikes, so after awhile, they figure him out.

Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

Kc61
08-18-2009, 10:25 PM
Homer will be good. Give him time. He's made much progress this year.

WVRedsFan
08-18-2009, 10:31 PM
Homer will be good. Give him time. He's made much progress this year.

Well, we disagree. His ERA is now 7.53. He allowed three walks tonight in the 5 1/3 he pitched. It's a typical performance and has been all year. I will admit he might develop into a fairly decent pitcher by the time he's 30, but if waiting for that year after year and getting the same kind of performance would be torture. I really don't think he's going to ever reach his potential.

alloverjr
08-18-2009, 10:31 PM
Homer will be good. Give him time. He's made much progress this year.

I see no progress at all. He still has no idea where the ball is going. Every time I looked to see a pitch he missed his spot by a bunch. Ball suppose to be down and away? Ends up middle in. I have no idea why you can't command a fastball.

Taveras booed mercilessly by the 50+ in the park afetr not running out a grounder. Good for those 50.

VR
08-18-2009, 10:37 PM
Batters just flailing against Burton/ Masset. They had something on Homer, as he was throwing harder.

Chip R
08-18-2009, 10:39 PM
Willy T out of the game. Hurt or benched for not hustling?

alloverjr
08-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Willy T out of the game. Hurt or benched for not hustling?

Turns out a mild quad strain. I heard it takes 14 months to recover from that.

VR
08-18-2009, 10:44 PM
Willy T out of the game. Hurt or benched for not hustling?

They said they were giving an update before that K on Balentien....thought we'd hear after the break.

VR
08-18-2009, 10:45 PM
Turns out a mild quad strain. I heard it takes 14 months to recover from that.

Tommy John please.

Chip R
08-18-2009, 10:46 PM
Turns out a mild quad strain. I heard it takes 14 months to recover from that.

I think he's hurt like Rodney was hurt in Caddyshack.

VR
08-18-2009, 10:53 PM
Cordero?

westofyou
08-18-2009, 11:01 PM
Bottom of the 9th Rosales, Hannigan and Janish.

Ouch.

VR
08-18-2009, 11:03 PM
Janish pitches like a hitter and hits like a pitcher. Not necessarily a good combination.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Tenth inning tied at 5. Maybe things will shake out better before it is over.

Cincinnati 9th Inning Summary

- B. Howry relieved S. Romo
- A. Rosales grounded out to third
- R. Hanigan popped out to shallow right
- P. Janish flied out to right
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

Kc61
08-18-2009, 11:16 PM
Looks like another loss.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:17 PM
Wheels falling off for Cordero and the Reds in the top of tenth.

Always Red
08-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Looks like a nice crowd of dozens there tonight.

My daughter is at the game, texted me saying there are at least 200 people there.

A skyline cheese coney threw out the first pitch. She couldn;t tell if he had onions and mustard, but he did have arms and legs.

And everyone at the game gets two free cheese coneys. That shouldn't set Skyline back very much. ;)

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:18 PM
Looks like another loss.

Yes, disappointing.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:19 PM
8-5 Giants now.

- F. Cordero relieved A. Rhodes
- P. Sandoval singled to left
- B. Molina struck out swinging
- R. Winn walked, P. Sandoval to second
- R. Garko doubled to center, P. Sandoval and R. Winn scored
- A. Rowand singled to shallow left, R. Garko to third
- J. Uribe hit sacrifice fly to left center, R. Garko scored

D. Ray Herrera in to relieve Cordero.

Kc61
08-18-2009, 11:20 PM
I see no progress at all. He still has no idea where the ball is going. Every time I looked to see a pitch he missed his spot by a bunch. Ball suppose to be down and away? Ends up middle in. I have no idea why you can't command a fastball.

Taveras booed mercilessly by the 50+ in the park afetr not running out a grounder. Good for those 50.

Yeah, nice to boo a guy that got hurt.

Homer dominated AAA for a long stretch this year. That was big progress.

Everyone around here keeps saying the Reds should build with youth. But nobody is willing to watch the growing pains.

VR
08-18-2009, 11:20 PM
It's is interesting to watch a lineup that employs capable major league hitters at every position. Nothing flashy, no superstars....just solid major leaguers that can produce consistently.

CTA513
08-18-2009, 11:22 PM
Yeah, nice to boo a guy that got hurt.

Homer dominated AAA for a long stretch this year. That was big progress.

Everyone around here keeps saying the Reds should build with youth. But nobody is willing to watch the growing pains.


I'm sure everyone knew he was hurt when it happened.

HokieRed
08-18-2009, 11:25 PM
Yeah, nice to boo a guy that got hurt.

Homer dominated AAA for a long stretch this year. That was big progress.

Everyone around here keeps saying the Reds should build with youth. But nobody is willing to watch the growing pains.

Don't include me in this last statement. I'm more than willing to watch growing pains.

Kc61
08-18-2009, 11:25 PM
Don't include me in this last statement. I'm more than willing to watch growing pains.

Consider yourself excluded from the statement.

westofyou
08-18-2009, 11:28 PM
The Giants were cool to let Skelatore on their team.

VR
08-18-2009, 11:31 PM
Homer outpitched Lincecum tonight, right?

Hey, I thought Homer was toast last year, and early this year. I've seen some glimmers of hope since he came back up.....and still think he has a very good shot to be a quality ML pitcher. Considering he's got a dinosaur for a pitching coach, and non existent scouting intelliegence provided, he shouldn't be given up on just yet.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:32 PM
San Francisco 10th Inning Summary

- F. Cordero relieved A. Rhodes
- P. Sandoval singled to left
- B. Molina struck out swinging
- R. Winn walked, P. Sandoval to second
- R. Garko doubled to center, P. Sandoval and R. Winn scored
- A. Rowand singled to shallow left, R. Garko to third
- J. Uribe hit sacrifice fly to left center, R. Garko scored
- T. Ishikawa hit for B. Howry
- D. Herrera relieved F. Cordero
- T. Ishikawa singled to shallow left, A. Rowand to second
- E. Velez struck out swinging
- End of Inning (3 Runs, 4 Hits, 0 Errors)

Giants 8 Reds 5

VR
08-18-2009, 11:33 PM
Would like to see Votto have a chance to tie it up.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:34 PM
Would like to see Votto have a chance to tie it up.

I would too.

VR
08-18-2009, 11:36 PM
Barker gets rung up on a ball. But got a favorable call earlier in the count. I guess it all evens out.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:37 PM
Game over

8-5 Giants

Tom Servo
08-18-2009, 11:38 PM
Reds lose. Yup.

Spring~Fields
08-18-2009, 11:42 PM
Cincinnati 10th Inning Summary

- T. Ishikawa at first
- B. Wilson relieved B. Howry
- L. Nix ground rule double to shallow left
- C. Dickerson struck out swinging
- K. Barker hit for D. Herrera
- K. Barker struck out looking
- J. Votto grounded out to first
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 8, Cincinnati 5, 10 innings


Game Scoring Summary
Bot 2nd: Cincinnati
- P. Janish walked, B. Phillips scored, W. Balentien to third, R. Hanigan to second

- H. Bailey singled to shallow right, W. Balentien and R. Hanigan scored, P. Janish to third

- C. Dickerson singled to shallow right center, P. Janish scored, H. Bailey to second


Top 3rd: San Francisco - J. Uribe homered to deep center


Bot 5th: Cincinnati
- J. Votto homered to deep right


Top 6th: San Francisco
- R. Winn doubled, E. Velez and E. Renteria scored, B. Molina to third

- R. Garko singled to shallow center, B. Molina and R. Winn scored


Top 10th: San Francisco - R. Garko doubled to center, P. Sandoval and R. Winn scored

- J. Uribe hit sacrifice fly to left center, R. Garko scored

San Francisco Batting
2B - R Winn (29, H Bailey); R Garko (1, F Cordero); F Lewis (19, J Burton).

HR - J Uribe (6, 3rd inning off H Bailey 0 on, 1 Out).

SF - J Uribe.

RBI - R Winn 2 (45), R Garko 4 (8), J Uribe 2 (28).

2-out RBI - R Winn 2, R Garko 2.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - E Velez 1, E Renteria 1, P Sandoval 1, J Uribe 1.

GIDP - R Garko.

Team LOB - 8.

Base Running
CS - R Winn (2, 2nd base by H Bailey/R Hanigan).

Fielding
DP - 1 (J Uribe-R Garko).

Cincinnati Batting
2B - L Nix (24, B Wilson).

HR - J Votto (18, 5th inning off T Lincecum 0 on, 1 Out).

S - H Bailey.

RBI - C Dickerson (14), J Votto (59), P Janish (4), H Bailey 2 (2).

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - C Dickerson 1, J Votto 2.

GIDP - R Hanigan.

Team LOB - 4.

Base Running
SB - B Phillips (19, 3rd base off T Lincecum/B Molina), W Balentien (1, 2nd base off T Lincecum/B Molina).

Fielding
DP - 1 (P Janish-B Phillips-J Votto).

Pitching


IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
T. Lincecum 6.0 6 5 5 3 2 1 1.04 2.37
J. Affeldt 1.1 0 0 0 0 2 0 1.23 1.81
S. Romo 0.2 0 0 0 0 2 0 1.40 5.23
B. Howry 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1.10 3.50 (W, 1-5)
B. Wilson 1.0 1 0 0 0 2 0 1.13 2.80 (S, 29)

Cincinnati
IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
H. Bailey 5.2 7 5 5 3 4 1 1.64 7.53
J. Burton 1.1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1.62 5.36
N. Masset 1.1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1.06 2.85
A. Rhodes 0.2 0 0 0 1 1 0 1.07 2.45
F. Cordero 0.2 3 3 3 1 1 0 1.21 2.30 (L, 1-3)
D. Herrera 0.1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1.40 2.40


IBB - R Hanigan (by T Lincecum).

Pitches-strikes - B Wilson 20-12; T Lincecum 87-48; J Affeldt 14-10; S Romo 8-6; B Howry 12-7; N Masset 21-13; A Rhodes 10-5; F Cordero 21-12; D Herrera 11-8; H Bailey 92-54; J Burton 14-10.

Ground balls-fly balls - B Wilson 1-0; T Lincecum 10-7; J Affeldt 1-0; S Romo 0-0; B Howry 1-2; N Masset 2-1; A Rhodes 0-1; F Cordero 1-1; D Herrera 0-0; H Bailey 8-4; J Burton 3-0.

Batters faced - B Wilson 4; T Lincecum 26; J Affeldt 4; S Romo 2; B Howry 3; N Masset 5; A Rhodes 3; F Cordero 6; D Herrera 2; H Bailey 25; J Burton 5.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 12:00 AM
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
C. Dickerson rf-cf 5 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 2 .267
W. Taveras cf 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .238
N. Masset p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
A. Rhodes p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
F. Cordero p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
D. Herrera p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
K. Barker ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .000
J. Votto 1b 5 1 1 1 1 0 2 0 3 .316
B. Phillips 2b 4 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 .262
W. Balentien lf 4 1 1 0 0 0 2 1 0 .306
A. Rosales 3b 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 2 .205
R. Hanigan c 3 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 .283
P. Janish ss 3 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 .206
H. Bailey p 1 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 .053
J. Burton p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
J. Gomes ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .276
L. Nix rf 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .243
Totals 35 5 7 5 1 3 8 2 12

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 03:44 AM
I really like Jim Kelch; he does an excellent job, and seems to want to work when everyone else wants off.

BTW- Votto is going full Monty tonight- stirrups and sanitary hose. It's a great look, IMO.

I agree on both counts. I think Kelch does a great job, and has a really smooth voice. The Reds need to lock him up before he gets away.

As for Votto, I LOVED the stirrups! I hope he keeps them, and I hope other players follow suit. Add to that the fact that he is clean-shaven, and he looks exactly what my childhood vision of a Cincinnati Red looks like.