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Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 07:06 PM
Stubbs CF
Janish SS
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Gomes RF
Balentien LF
Rosales 3B
Hanigan C
Arroyo P

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 07:58 PM
On Reds Live they said there are thunder storms in the area.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 08:02 PM
Rain delay...havent heard how long. Poor Stubbs.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 08:09 PM
Marty's goin' to the Banana phone, this should prove interesting

Chip R
08-19-2009, 08:10 PM
Rain delay...havent heard how long. Poor Stubbs.

I think I heard them say they will get started about 7:30

Chip R
08-19-2009, 08:12 PM
Dusty and Darren Baker on Tech Talk now. Insert your own joke here.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 08:13 PM
Darren Baker and Trey Griffey, the Reds future outfield.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 08:15 PM
Marty and Brantley apologizing for going off on Taveras for not running to first when he apparently strained his quad.

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 08:28 PM
Start time is supposed to be 7:45 PM

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 08:30 PM
http://jimday.com/About_Jim_Day.html

Fascinating stuff.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 08:31 PM
15 mins til first pitch or so.

Raisor
08-19-2009, 08:32 PM
I'm sitting in a Barnes and Nobel cafe here in Atlanta wearing my Bench 5 T-Shirt waiting for anyone to give me crap for being a Reds fan.

Alas, no one cares enough to hate the Reds.

GAC
08-19-2009, 08:36 PM
San Francisco

AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
E. Velez 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .310
E. Renteria ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .258
N. Schierholtz rf0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
B. Molina c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
R. Winn lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
R. Garko 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .224
A. Rowand cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .272
J. Uribe 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
B. Zito p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .132
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cincinnati

AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
D. Stubbs cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P. Janish ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .206
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
J. Gomes rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
W. Balentien lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .306
A. Rosales 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .205
R. Hanigan c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .283

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 08:47 PM
Go Reds and GL to Stubbs! I promise to give him the entire season before I even begin to pass judgment. I would hope the rest feel the same way.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 08:50 PM
Let's hope Bronson took the good pills today.

Raisor
08-19-2009, 08:53 PM
Career OPS for the lineup

Stubbs .000
Janish .528
Votto .902
Phillips .739
Gomes .802
Balentine .637
Rosales .601
Hannigan .721

That's a strong group.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 08:54 PM
Arroyo just made Renteria look ridiculous.

Degenerate39
08-19-2009, 08:55 PM
Career OPS for the lineup

Stubbs .000
Janish .528
Votto .902
Phillips .739
Gomes .802
Balentine .637
Rosales .601
Hannigan .721

That's a strong group.

The weird thing is Stubbs has a higher OPS than Taveras

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 08:59 PM
San Francisco 1st Inning Summary

- E. Velez flied out to left
- E. Renteria struck out swinging
- N. Schierholtz doubled to deep center
- B. Molina popped out to left center
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

reds44
08-19-2009, 08:59 PM
The weird thing is Stubbs has a higher OPS than Taveras
Well done sir.

reds44
08-19-2009, 09:01 PM
So far Stubbs looks a lot like Taveras.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 09:02 PM
So far Stubbs looks a lot like Taveras.
That was hit further than any recent Taveras drive that I've seen.

HokieRed
08-19-2009, 09:02 PM
He must have gotten the be aggressive speech from the Dusty.

reds44
08-19-2009, 09:03 PM
Votto is out of the game.

Oh no.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:03 PM
Barker batting for Votto, reason unknown at this moment.

REDSEER
08-19-2009, 09:03 PM
Just when you thought it couldn't get worse....

Hope it's nothing serious with Votto

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:04 PM
*worried for Joey and hoping it's nothing serious* :(

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 09:04 PM
Hope he is ok but leaving for no reason sounds like a reoccurence of his problem from this year.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:05 PM
Cincinnati 1st Inning Summary

- D. Stubbs flied out to left center
- P. Janish grounded out to pitcher
- K. Barker hit for J. Votto
- K. Barker struck out looking
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

Degenerate39
08-19-2009, 09:05 PM
Could it be panic attacks again?

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 09:07 PM
I don't know the exact day but his father died in August so the anniversary of his death could be affecting him again.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:09 PM
Joey's father passed away on August 8th, 2008 so that anniversary has all ready come and gone. I hope they let us know soon what's going on so the speculation doesn't get too crazy tonight.

Super_Barry11
08-19-2009, 09:09 PM
Pretty sure the one year anniversary was August 8th. He looked pretty out of sync in SF, so I figured he was having a rough time. Anniversaries are so tough. :(

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:11 PM
Back to back hits for San Fran

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 09:13 PM
Walk to Uribe to load them up, w/ 1 out, for Zito.


Got the 4-6-3 DP. Good job walking the tight rope there.

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 09:13 PM
Now a 4 pitch walk loads the bases.

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 09:14 PM
Zito grounds into a 4-3 DP to end the inning. 0-0 mid 2nd.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:14 PM
San Francisco 2nd Inning Summary

- K. Barker at first for the Reds
- R. Winn struck out swinging
- R. Garko singled to shallow left
- A. Rowand singled to shallow right, R. Garko to second
- J. Uribe walked, R. Garko to third, A. Rowand to second
- B. Zito grounded into double play second to first, J. Uribe out at second
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 2 Hits, 0 Errors)

WVRedsFan
08-19-2009, 09:15 PM
Arroyo dodged a fatal bullet with the bases loaded situation. With this lineup, even two runs might mean a loss. Man, is this team lacking in punch. And the answer is Stubbs? I really can't figure this team out.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 09:17 PM
Arroyo dodged a fatal bullet with the bases loaded situation. With this lineup, even two runs might mean a loss. Man, is this team lacking in punch. And the answer is Stubbs? I really can't figure this team out.

At this point in the season. what else do you want them to do? The time for making moves to improve the offense came and went a long time ago.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:18 PM
Hmmm, this is a curious thing from C.Trent's blog and this doesn't sound like a guy who wasn't feeling great today.


*STIRRUPS BENCHED: I asked Joey Votto if the stirrups he sported Tuesday night were a permanent thing, he said no.
“But every game you’ve worn them in your big league career, you’ve hit a homer,” I told him.
“Well, maybe I should wear them all the time,” he said.
“That’s what I’m saying!” I replied.

They also showed him during Reds Live coverage of BP when they were showing Stubbs and Joey seemed totally fine. I wonder what's going on. :eek:

WVRedsFan
08-19-2009, 09:19 PM
At this point in the season. what else do you want them to do? The time for making moves to improve the offense came and went a long time ago.Then there no reason for fans to come out or watch. Look at the stadium. No one wants to see this emasculated team play. At least appear like you are doing something by playing guys who can actually hit (although I realize that it's a challenge), so it looks like you're doing something, even if you're not.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 09:21 PM
Then there no reason for fans to come out or watch. Look at the stadium. No one wants to see this emasculated team play. At least appear like you are doing something by playing Gomes and Balentein, so it looks like you're doing something, even if you're not.

Um, Gomes and Balentin are playing tonight.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 09:23 PM
Thought Balentien had it there.

JaxRed
08-19-2009, 09:24 PM
From Carolina game; longer they go without saying something the more chance its a relapse

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:25 PM
Thought Balentien had it there.

So did I! The one night I wouldn't mind seeing a Red hit a cheap HR hit to left field, LOL :laugh:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:28 PM
Cincinnati 2nd Inning Summary

- B. Phillips grounded out to third
- J. Gomes walked
- W. Balentien flied out to left
- A. Rosales popped out to right center
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)



San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0

WVRedsFan
08-19-2009, 09:30 PM
Um, Gomes and Balentin are playing tonight.

Yep. This team has me so screwed up that I can't remember who they are--I changed it. I meant Nix and Dickerson--but who cares? With a lineup which sports hitters at .000, .204, .000, .262, .276, .297, .204, .283, and .116, I guess getting one run might be a tremendous task.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 09:32 PM
4-6 yesiree 3.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:32 PM
Good thing Bronson has his double play pitch working tonight. :eek:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:34 PM
San Francisco 3rd Inning Summary
- Velez out, I forgot how. :) Old folks short term memory moment.
- E. Renteria singled to shallow right
- N. Schierholtz grounded into double play second to shortstop to first, E. Renteria out at second
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:35 PM
The ball not carrying is good for Bronson but bad for the Reds. I thought Hanigan had one there.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:38 PM
I didn't think Drew went around there but rookies never seem to get the call. Oh well. *sigh*

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:40 PM
Cincinnati 3rd Inning Summary

- R. Hanigan flied out to deep center
- B. Arroyo flied out to left center
- D. Stubbs struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 09:46 PM
Bronson has been bailed out by a couple of gb dp's, but he's looked quite good tonight. And by tonight I mean the last handful of starts.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:46 PM
San Francisco 4th Inning Summary

- B. Molina grounded out to third
- R. Winn popped out to shallow left
- R. Garko singled to shallow left
- A. Rowand struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:50 PM
That's just bad luck for Barker there. Hit it right at Garko. :eek:

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 09:51 PM
Reds hitless through 4.

KoryMac5
08-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Reds making Zito look like he is worth the contract tonight.

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Reds continue to be hitless with only one baserunner through 4 innings.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:53 PM
Cincinnati 4th Inning Summary

- P. Janish flied out to shallow center
- K. Barker lined out to first
- B. Phillips grounded out to first
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0



IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Zito 4.0 0 0 0 1 2 0 1.32 4.32


B. Arroyo 4.0 5 0 0 1 3 0 1.40 4.62


Pitches-strikes - B Zito 52-35; B Arroyo 52-38.

Ground balls-fly balls - B Zito 3-6; B Arroyo 4-5.

Batters faced - B Zito 13; B Arroyo 16.

Zito no hitting Reds through 4

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 09:55 PM
I think Stubbs could have handled that out but dang did Balentin cover some ground to get that ball!

I'm worried that it's now the 5th inning and there's still no news about Joey. :(

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 09:57 PM
San Francisco 5th Inning Summary

- J. Uribe popped out to shallow left center
- B. Zito grounded out to second
- E. Velez grounded out to first
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

WVRedsFan
08-19-2009, 09:59 PM
Maybe the Reds can market this lineup as "The Hitless Wonders" and have them go for a record of consecutive scoreless innings?

Grasping at straws here...

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Argh. Again Balentien hits it hard but it's still an out.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:01 PM
The offense is, well, what it's been all year. But at least Bronson is matching Zito...

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Maybe the Reds can market this lineup as "The Hitless Wonders" and have them go for a record of consecutive scoreless innings?

Grasping at straws here...

:evil: :lol:

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Check swing and the no=no is gone!

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:02 PM
Check swing base hit for Rosales. I'll take it.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:02 PM
YAY!! The no hitter is broken and who the heck had Rosales in the pool?! LOL :lol:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:03 PM
Yes!!!
Rosales breaks up the smooth sailing Zito's no hitter. :thumbup:

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-19-2009, 10:03 PM
At least the ultimate embarassment has been averted - getting no-hit by Zito would be just too much to stomach

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:05 PM
Pretty sure Hangian yelled "DAMN IT!" when he flew out.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Cincinnati 5th Inning Summary

- J. Gomes struck out looking
- W. Balentien flied out to left
- A. Rosales singled to shallow right
- R. Hanigan flied out to right
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:08 PM
Pretty sure Hangian yelled "DAMN IT!" when he flew out.

That was awesome, LOL :lol:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:08 PM
At least the ultimate embarassment has been averted - getting no-hit by Zito would be just too much to stomach

I agree, we did not need that.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:12 PM
Something to Ponder:

If half the Louisville team is up with the Reds right now, does this mean that the team will start winning?? Louisville does have a pretty awesome record right now and these guys were all part of that. Just something to ponder during this rather dull and (thankfully) fast moving game, LOL :laugh:

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:13 PM
Great play by Janish but just like Rosales before he should probably take more time when the slowest man on Earth, Bengie Molina, is running down the line.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:13 PM
That was a pretty pick by Janish and a pretty grab on the short hop by Barker. Niiiiice.


Bronson dealing today.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:14 PM
San Francisco 6th Inning Summary

- E. Renteria grounded out to shortstop
- N. Schierholtz struck out swinging
- B. Molina grounded out to shortstop
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:15 PM
Gapper up in the booth with Kelch and Welsh.

oneupper
08-19-2009, 10:16 PM
Janish is really quite slick out in the field. I wish he could hit a bit.

Strikes Out Looking
08-19-2009, 10:16 PM
Something to Ponder:

If half the Louisville team is up with the Reds right now, does this mean that the team will start winning?? Louisville does have a pretty awesome record right now and these guys were all part of that. Just something to ponder during this rather dull and (thankfully) fast moving game, LOL :laugh:

Only if their manager came along;)

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Stubbs first hit is a flare double down the line.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Go Drew!! First major league hit and he makes it into a double!! :D

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Stubbs doubles. Good for youngman :)

oneupper
08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Gapper up in the booth with Kelch and Welsh.

Gapper's voice is disturbing.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:17 PM
Nice! Congrats Drew! Double for his first hit...wasn't pretty but it's a hit!

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:18 PM
Only if their manager came along;)

I could get on board with that! :thumbup:

Drew can really fly around the bases! Wow. Dude has some speed. :eek:

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Gapper's voice is disturbing.
I miss Mr. Red. I wish there was room for him and Mr. Redlegs.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/cin/images/fan_forum/2008/mrred_clip_142x287.jpg

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Votto left the game with blurred vision.

Reds Fanatic
08-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Votto left the game with blurred vision

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:19 PM
Marty reports that Joey Votto left the game with blurred vision.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Yikes, that doesn't sound very good but hopefully they get it fixed for him. I've had blurry vision before due to my contacts and it totally sucks. Thanks for the update guys! :)

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:20 PM
Per Fay:

Joey Votto left the game with blurry vision. He'll be evaluated tomorrow morning.

SirFelixCat
08-19-2009, 10:21 PM
Damn...just read it and 5th? Sheesh you guys are fast!

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:22 PM
Cincinnati 6th Inning Summary

- B. Arroyo struck out swinging
- D. Stubbs doubled to shallow right
- P. Janish sacrificed to third, D. Stubbs to third
- K. Barker grounded out to second
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0

VR
08-19-2009, 10:22 PM
A silly thought I know....but why not have Stubbs try to steal 3rd there?

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:23 PM
Per Fay:

Joey Votto left the game with blurry vision. He'll be evaluated tomorrow morning.

We all keep an eye on Joey, we had it well covered. :)

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:26 PM
We all keep an eye on Joey, we had it well covered. :)

Some of us keep a better eye on him than others :D but it's nice to know we're all on top of these types of situations, LOL :laugh: (Random-Has Joey had a game off since he got back from the DL?! That's a lot of games. Maybe a night off will do him some good.)

Wow, I'd forgotten how dull these games can be without having Joey to watch in the lineup. *smacks self to stay awake* :eek:

alloverjr
08-19-2009, 10:26 PM
Per Fay:

Joey Votto left the game with blurry vision. He'll be evaluated tomorrow morning.

Any chance this is related to his previous DL stint? I'm concerned.

Brutus
08-19-2009, 10:26 PM
You know, Drew Stubbs just made $2,325 today (minus his $50 union dues). If nothing else, he may be on a team that has the talent of a AAA team, but at least he's in the bigs.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:27 PM
You know, Drew Stubbs just made $2,325 today (minus his $50 union dues). If nothing else, he may be on a team that has the talent of a AAA team, but at least he's in the bigs.
He's also hitting a respectable .333 :cool:

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:29 PM
Runners on 2nd and 3rd for the Giants with two outs, and they're pulling Zito for pinch hitter Fred Lewis.

VR
08-19-2009, 10:29 PM
2 pukey hits on pitches that fooled the hitters. Not cool.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:30 PM
Lewis pops up. Arroyo gives up no runs AND now no more Zito to baffle the hitters.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:31 PM
Any chance this is related to his previous DL stint? I'm concerned.

I don't think so but we really have no idea until we hear something more from the clubhouse. I don't remember his vision being talked about with his earlier spells and he's seemed perfectly fine on this homestand (aside from being frustrated as a hittern at times :p: ). I wonder if he got something in his eye while he was getting ready to bat because he seemed fine in the field. Chalk maybe? That makes my eyes water just thinking about it. :eek:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:31 PM
San Francisco 7th Inning Summary

- R. Winn grounded out to second
- R. Garko grounded out to shortstop
- A. Rowand singled to shallow left center
- J. Uribe doubled to shallow right, A. Rowand to third
- F. Lewis hit for B. Zito
- F. Lewis popped out to right center
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 2 Hits, 0 Errors)

Brutus
08-19-2009, 10:32 PM
I don't think so but we really have no idea until we hear something more from the clubhouse. I don't remember his vision being talked about with his earlier spells and he's seemed perfectly fine on this homestand (aside from being frustrated as a hittern at times :p: ). I wonder if he got something in his eye while he was getting ready to bat because he seemed fine in the field. Chalk maybe? That makes my eyes water just thinking about it. :eek:

It was rubbing the sleepy dirt out of the eyes after waking up from his dream where he did not have two (just one) OBP guys of sub 300 in front of him.

VR
08-19-2009, 10:32 PM
2.18 Earnie for Arroyo over the last 57 2/3 innings.

I would hope there is some phone activity in the GM's office tomorrow.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:34 PM
It was rubbing the sleepy dirt out of the eyes after waking up from his dream where he did not have two (just one) OBP guys of sub 300 in front of him.

LOL :laugh: And seeing Stubbs at third in that last inning probably drove him crazy in the dugout or wherever he is because you know (and he probably knows too) that his chances of driving Drew in for a run were much higher than Barker's! :p:

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:35 PM
2.18 Earnie for Arroyo over the last 57 2/3 innings.

I would hope there is some phone activity in the GM's office tomorrow.

I don't understand the lack of interest in him, it is not like he is pitching for the "27 Yankees" or the "Big Red Machine". He has been pitching well.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:37 PM
Micah sighting! I think I'm his only fan here but it's good to see him in the dugout again. :D

Brutus
08-19-2009, 10:37 PM
I don't understand the lack of interest in him, it is not like he is pitching for the "27 Yankees" or the "Big Red Machine". He has been pitching well.

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Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:40 PM
Sergio Romo strikes out the side.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:43 PM
Cincinnati 7th Inning Summary

- S. Romo relieved B. Zito
- B. Phillips struck out swinging
- J. Gomes struck out swinging
- W. Balentien struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

7th inning stretch, this game is going fast.

San Francisco 0, Cincinnati 0



IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Zito 6.0 2 0 0 1 4 0 1.32 4.26
S. Romo 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 0 1.34 4.98

IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Arroyo 7.0 7 0 0 1 4 0 1.38 4.54


Pitches-strikes - B Zito 77-50; S Romo 17-10; B Arroyo 85-61.

Ground balls-fly balls - B Zito 4-9; S Romo 0-0; B Arroyo 10-8.

Batters faced - B Zito 21; S Romo 3; B Arroyo 27.

Kc61
08-19-2009, 10:44 PM
Left side of Reds infield with Rosales and Janish quite good defensively.

Don't hit, but play nice defense.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:46 PM
Balentien dives and can't make the play. 1-0 Giants. :(

VR
08-19-2009, 10:46 PM
$

3 weeks ago....I would agree. He has to be the most attractive 'available' pitcher right now with the way he's been chuckin' it over the last month. I look to the GM to market that run and turn it into something of value.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:46 PM
THAT.SUCKS. :bang:

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:48 PM
Left side of Reds infield with Rosales and Janish quite good defensively.

Don't hit, but play nice defense.

I agree and I have to say that Barker has done quite well over at first for his first start there with the Reds.

Kc61
08-19-2009, 10:48 PM
Reds now down a run. Probably impossible to overcome.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:48 PM
THAT.SUCKS. :bang:

I was thinking something along that line, your's was a little cleaner. :D

VR
08-19-2009, 10:49 PM
THAT.SUCKS. :bang:

Goodness, no kidding. When I saw Balentien go airborne, I though he'd at least knock it down.

Good attempt, just another tough break that's accentuated by need for pitching and defense to be near perfect to make up for this offense.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 10:50 PM
So who pinch hits for Arroyo?

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:51 PM
OK Reds.....PLEASE get Bronson at least one run so he doesn't take a loss tonight! :eek:

Reds/Flyers Fan
08-19-2009, 10:52 PM
Reds now down a run. Probably impossible to overcome.

Unbelievably, that's the state of Reds baseball 2009

Down 1-0 and it's over :rolleyes:

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 10:52 PM
So who pinch hits for Arroyo?

Laynce Nix. (Unless Rosales and Hanigan can tie the game before Arroyo's spot is due.)

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:53 PM
San Francisco 8th Inning Summary

- E. Velez grounded out to third
- E. Renteria singled to right
- N. Schierholtz doubled to left center, E. Renteria scored
- B. Molina flied out to left
- R. Winn struck out swinging
- End of Inning (1 Run, 2 Hits, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 1, Cincinnati 0

VR
08-19-2009, 10:54 PM
If Rosales or Hanigan don't get on....I'd let Arroyo hit and go out there for the 9th.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 10:54 PM
Laynce Nix. (Unless Rosales and Hanigan can tie the game before Arroyo's spot is due.)

Rosales won't do anything, while Hanigan might actually get on.

I'll be rooting for Nix.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Nix PH for Arroyo.

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 10:55 PM
How ironic.....I actually got something in my eye a little while ago and I still don't quite have my vision totally back yet. Apparently my sympathies for Joey go a lot deeper than I realized, LOL :laugh:

Kc61
08-19-2009, 10:55 PM
Feel bad for Stubbs. Had to take the step down from the Bats to the Reds.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 10:56 PM
Nix PH for Arroyo.

So with Affeldt coming in, who pinch hits for Nix?

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 10:57 PM
Rosales won't do anything, while Hanigan might actually get on.

I'll be rooting for Nix.


So with Affeldt coming in, who pinch hits for Nix?

Nobody.

This is where having a 12-man pitching staff and a short bench really hurts.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 10:57 PM
Feel bad for Stubbs. Had to take the step down from the Bats to the Reds.

:lol:

:oops:

Kc61
08-19-2009, 10:58 PM
So with Affeldt coming in, who pinch hits for Nix?

Is Taveras available?

Activate Owings mid-game?

No, it's Nix.

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Nobody.

This is where having a 12-man pitching staff and a short bench really hurts.

Good 'ol 12 man staffs....

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 10:59 PM
And Nix K's looking.

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 11:01 PM
Is Taveras available?

Activate Owings mid-game?

No, it's Nix.

The only alternatives from the right side were Sutton or Tatum.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:01 PM
Cincinnati 8th Inning Summary

- A. Rosales fouled out to catcher
- R. Hanigan lined out to third
- L. Nix hit for B. Arroyo
- J. Affeldt relieved S. Romo
- L. Nix struck out looking
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)

San Francisco 1, Cincinnati 0

redsmetz
08-19-2009, 11:02 PM
Coming late to the thread (had a meeting to attend tonight) - why did Votto leave the game?

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 11:03 PM
Good 'ol 12 man staffs....

You got that right. With a 12-man staff and a five-man bench, you really can't afford to pinch-hit for another position player very often. (Especially when a player had to leave unexpectedly earlier in the game.)

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Coming late to the thread (had a meeting to attend tonight) - why did Votto leave the game?

Blurred vision.

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 11:04 PM
Coming late to the thread (had a meeting to attend tonight) - why did Votto leave the game?

Blurred vision.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 11:06 PM
Burred vision.
Aaron Burr vision.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:06 PM
San Francisco 9th Inning Summary

- N. Masset relieved B. Arroyo
- R. Garko popped out to right center
- A. Rowand grounded out to pitcher
- J. Uribe singled to shallow left center
- T. Ishikawa hit for J. Affeldt
- T. Ishikawa flied out to left
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:07 PM
Aaron Burr vision.

Gosh, I must be having blurred vision too.........thanks for seeing that for me. :eek:

reds44
08-19-2009, 11:09 PM
That was a ball.

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 11:09 PM
Stubbs goes down 0-2, takes the next three high, and is called out an a questionable 3-2 slider.

REDSEER
08-19-2009, 11:09 PM
Wow......very bad call....that kills about any chance we had to score this inning

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 11:10 PM
Bad call on Stubbs and I think he knew it too. :(

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 11:12 PM
Despite his terrible haircut I've always had some man-love for Brian Wilson and damn, he can throw it.

Stormy
08-19-2009, 11:12 PM
2 hits on the night, both of the bloop variety. That's nearly as close to being no hit as it gets.

HokieRed
08-19-2009, 11:13 PM
Barker swung at a 3-0 with Phillips on deck?

HeatherC1212
08-19-2009, 11:13 PM
This game needed Joey in the worst way tonight and Bronson deserved a win after pitching a great game. *sigh* :(

Highlifeman21
08-19-2009, 11:14 PM
Losing 1-0 to Barry Zito pretty much sums it up for me.

Kinda upset I actually wasted my time to listen to the game tonight...

Tom Servo
08-19-2009, 11:15 PM
This one was pretty much a lost cause as soon as Votto exited the game.

Big Klu
08-19-2009, 11:19 PM
This one was pretty much a lost cause as soon as Votto exited the game.

I would think he's doubtful for a 12:35 game tomorrow afternoon, as well.

Will M
08-19-2009, 11:21 PM
Bronson is doing his 2008 2nd half imitation. Night and day between Apr-May-June and July-Aug-Sept last year and this year. GMs in need of pitching have been asleep at the switch.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:26 PM
Lightning knocked me out the box, that was thrilling. :eek:

Final San Francisco 1, Cincinnati 0

Scoring Summary
Top 8th: San Francisco
- N. Schierholtz doubled to left center, E. Renteria scored

San Francisco Batting
2B - N Schierholtz 2 (15, B Arroyo 2); J Uribe (19, B Arroyo).

RBI - N Schierholtz (23).

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - B Molina 1, R Winn 1, F Lewis 2.

GIDP - N Schierholtz, B Zito.

Team LOB - 8.

Cincinnati Batting
2B - D Stubbs (1, B Zito).

S - P Janish.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - K Barker 1.

Team LOB - 3.

Pitching


IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Zito 6.0 2 0 0 1 4 0 1.32 4.26
S. Romo 1.2 0 0 0 0 3 0 1.30 4.84 (W, 4-2)
J. Affeldt 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.22 1.80 (H, 25)
B. Wilson 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 0 1.11 2.75 (S, 30)

IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
B. Arroyo 8.0 9 1 1 1 5 0 1.39 4.56 (L, 11-12)
N. Masset 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.06 2.80


Pitches-strikes - B Wilson 16-8; B Zito 77-50; S Romo 22-14; J Affeldt 4-3; B Arroyo 99-71; N Masset 7-5.

Ground balls-fly balls - B Wilson 1-0; B Zito 4-9; S Romo 0-1; J Affeldt 0-0; B Arroyo 11-10; N Masset 1-2.

Batters faced - B Wilson 3; B Zito 21; S Romo 5; J Affeldt 1; B Arroyo 32; N Masset 4.

cincrazy
08-19-2009, 11:26 PM
This is the absolute worst offense I've ever seen in my life.

Stormy
08-19-2009, 11:28 PM
Bronson is doing his 2008 2nd half imitation. Night and day between Apr-May-June and July-Aug-Sept last year and this year. GMs in need of pitching have been asleep at the switch.

Same phenomenon in 2007, as well.

2007: 99IP of 3.55ERA 1.31 WHIP ball after the break.
2008: 96IP of 3.47ERA 1.19 WHIP ball after the break.

And in 2009 he probably just neared 2.85ERA territory in his nearly 50IP of 2nd half starts.

I thought Walt should have been able to trade him at 2008's deadline based upon his historical precedent of ALWAYS posting stellar 2nd halves, dating back to his Boston days. I simply can't fathom in a pitching starved market why he doesn't have value this year, with only a single year left on his contract.

Stormy
08-19-2009, 11:31 PM
This is the absolute worst offense I've ever seen in my life.

Worst OPS+ in the majors (79) with a bullet.

Spring~Fields
08-19-2009, 11:32 PM
Cincinnati
AB R H RBI HR BB K SB LOB Season Avg
D. Stubbs cf 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 .250
P. Janish ss 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .202
C. Dickerson ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .266
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .316
K. Barker ph-1b 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .000
B. Phillips 2b 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .260
J. Gomes rf 2 0 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 .273
W. Balentien lf 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 .282
A. Rosales 3b 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .207
R. Hanigan c 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .279
B. Arroyo p 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .114
L. Nix ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .242
N. Masset p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
Totals AB 28 R 0 H 2 RBI 0 HR 0 BB 1 K 10 SB 0 LOB 4

OldXOhio
08-19-2009, 11:44 PM
How often does your 2 hitter get PH for in the 9th in a tight affair?

Stormy
08-19-2009, 11:55 PM
How often does your 2 hitter get PH for in the 9th in a tight affair?

Well, since Dusty Baker almost exclusively reserves the #2 spot for guys with sub-290OBPs (Gonzo, Janish, Taveras), they probably should be PH'd for in the 9th inning of every tight affair. ;)

paintmered
08-20-2009, 12:04 AM
Worst OPS+ in the majors (79) with a bullet.

That is faceplam bad.

OldXOhio
08-20-2009, 09:45 AM
Well, since Dusty Baker almost exclusively reserves the #2 spot for guys with sub-290OBPs (Gonzo, Janish, Taveras), they probably should be PH'd for in the 9th inning of every tight affair. ;)

I would argue they get PH for in the 1st myself.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 10:55 AM
Did anyone notice the odd way Barker showed the ball to the home plate ump after the catch on a few of the DP?. Another time he showed it to the 1b ump. I know guys often hold up their glove to show they caught it, but why he turned and showed it to the plate ump was odd. And he took the ball out of his glove and showed the ball in his throwing hand.

Yes, it was 1-0 game where the Reds had two soft, bloop hits.