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Tom Servo
08-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Dickerson RF
Stubbs CF
Votto 1B
Phillips 2B
Nix LF
Rosales 3B
Janish SS
Tatum C
Harang P


Gotta get Nix his playing time, dude.

Tom Servo
08-20-2009, 01:32 PM
Listen up everyone, Chris Welsh is going to tell you how to score. :cool:

nate
08-20-2009, 01:34 PM
1. Grow a moustache.

HeatherC1212
08-20-2009, 01:35 PM
Listen up everyone, Chris Welsh is going to tell you how to score. :cool:

Hmmm, I don't know if there's much hope for some of the guys here to actually learn how to do that, LOL :p:

Is the game actually starting or are is it raining downtown?

nate
08-20-2009, 01:39 PM
Chat is open and fat-free.

cumberlandreds
08-20-2009, 01:44 PM
Take a look at those BA for the Reds 6,7 and 8 hitters; .207,.202 and .121. I'm sure that puts fear in the heart of Matt Cain. :p:

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 01:50 PM
Is Angel Hernandez still the worst umpire in MLB? Who asked for time?

cumberlandreds
08-20-2009, 01:55 PM
Is Angel Hernandez still the worst umpire in MLB? Who asked for time?

Marty said the signal for time was obvious but I don't know how Marty could tell since he and Thom are talking about everything except for the game they are suppose to be watching.

Reds Fanatic
08-20-2009, 02:04 PM
Harang with another 1-2-3 inning as he Ks two Giants. 0-0 mid 2nd.

HokieRed
08-20-2009, 02:05 PM
No excuse for Gomes not being in the lineup.

TheNext44
08-20-2009, 02:05 PM
Listen up everyone, Chris Welsh is going to tell you how to score. :cool:

Get her drunk first. You might end up in jail, but you'll probably score.


1. Grow a moustache.

Considering he shaved his this offseason, what does that say about his marriage?

Kc61
08-20-2009, 02:12 PM
Harang needs to give up -1 runs to win this game.

Reds Fanatic
08-20-2009, 02:12 PM
Rosales and Janish single but are stranded as Tatum flies out and Harang grounds out. 0-0 after 2.

Tom Servo
08-20-2009, 02:23 PM
Stubbs put a charge into that one, but still just a deep fly out.

membengal
08-20-2009, 02:24 PM
Hello. Breaking my self-imposed game thread ban to note:

Stubbs looks wonderfully effortless patroling CF.

Me likey.

oneupper
08-20-2009, 02:27 PM
Hello. Breaking my self-imposed game thread ban to note:

Stubbs looks wonderfully effortless patroling CF.

Me likey.

Ah...Willpower! :D

HokieRed
08-20-2009, 02:29 PM
Any word on Phillips leaving?

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 02:36 PM
Any word on Phillips leaving?

Not from the radio booth. Now they just reported it he left with a sore wrist.

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 02:37 PM
Wild Pitch on Strike 3, runner on 3rd scores. Oy vay. Intentionally walking Aaron Rowand now.

Kc61
08-20-2009, 02:38 PM
Giants take the insurmountable 1-0 lead on a pitch that Tatum couldn't handle. Too bad because it came on a strikeout and Harang might have been out of the inning.

Harang probably realizes this game is lost, he's just acting professionally by continuing to look serious.

Next off-season, Bob, when you are nixing deals for hitters, try and remember this time because your product is terrible.

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 02:45 PM
Tatum reaches on an error, Nix to 2nd - can we please CAPITALIZE?

Answer: No - 3rd out, inning over.

flyer85
08-20-2009, 02:46 PM
Tatum reaches on an error, Nix to 2nd - can we please CAPITALIZE?

Answer: No - 3rd out, inning over.
no

Danny Serafini
08-20-2009, 02:51 PM
Is it a bad sign when only three players in your lineup are batting over .210?

traderumor
08-20-2009, 02:51 PM
Two straight 1-0 losses? Better contact Elias Sports Bureau quick, its shaping up that way.

flyer85
08-20-2009, 02:56 PM
the Reds are going to manufacture some runs ... just wait

traderumor
08-20-2009, 02:59 PM
the Reds are going to manufacture some runs ... just waityou mean in August?

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:00 PM
5th inning summary

Dickerson-can of corn fly out
Stubbs-stirring up dirt around the plate
Votto-dribbles back to the mound singing Foreigner

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:06 PM
top of 6th-two reach on singles, Garko flies out to deep left to end the inning with no damage (echo, echo, echo)

Still 1-0 Giants

HokieRed
08-20-2009, 03:07 PM
You really have to hope for Aaron's sake that we'll trade him. He deserves a lot better.

membengal
08-20-2009, 03:07 PM
the score sheet stuff is mind-numbing

membengal
08-20-2009, 03:08 PM
Perhaps they could throw as much effort into introducing/discussing OBP/OPS.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:09 PM
Nix homers to CF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!tie game 1-1

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:10 PM
is this game on tv?

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:10 PM
Whew......broke up a 19 inning scoreless streak for the Reds according to C.Trent

HeatherC1212
08-20-2009, 03:11 PM
Go Nix!!! :jump:

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:11 PM
No other business in the 6th, so its 1-1 after 6 complete.

flyer85
08-20-2009, 03:12 PM
Nix homers to CF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!tie game 1-1
way to manufacture a run :beerme:

membengal
08-20-2009, 03:12 PM
is this game on tv?

yes.

Kelch and Welsh on the mic.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:17 PM
Leadoff double by Whiteside but runner stranded at 3b as Uribe lines out to right.

1-1 after 6-1/2

HeatherC1212
08-20-2009, 03:18 PM
yes.

Kelch and Welsh on the mic.

Sounds like a country/western group, LOL :laugh:

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Harang out of the game as Barker pinch hits for him...and Barker gets a bloop hit to left!

At least Harang can't take another tough-luck loss...

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:22 PM
Arroyo pinch running for Barker at second base :D

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:23 PM
Big spot for Stubbs here with two on and one out

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Stubbs looks at one right down Broadway for strike 3....it's up to Votto

CTA513
08-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Not going to get a better pitch then that to hit and you can't take it for strike 3.

Reds Fanatic
08-20-2009, 03:29 PM
What happened to Phillips? Gameday says he left due to an injured hand/wrist.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Votto popped up, 1-1 after 7

PuffyPig
08-20-2009, 03:35 PM
What happened to Phillips? Gameday says he left due to an injured hand/wrist.


He left due to an injured hand/wrist.;)

membengal
08-20-2009, 03:37 PM
He left due to:


"Good gravy, I can't take this anymore"

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:37 PM
Big 6-4-3 (yesiree) DP induced by Rhodes to get out of the jam...1-1 heading to the bottom of the 8th

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:38 PM
Giants threaten with Bowlingbol getting a double, infield single rolling him to 3rd, but a DP gets Arthur Rhodes out of the inning. Harang was pinch hit for by Barker in the 7th.

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:42 PM
Nix with another single....3-4 today

Rosales up with one on and one out

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:44 PM
Rosales lines out, Nix thrown out trying to steal, we head to the 9th, still tied at 1.

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:44 PM
Nix caught stealing....that leaves our ninth inning lineup as

Janish
Tatum
Pinch-hitter

:eek:

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:46 PM
Tweet from Fay:


The 8 position players the #Reds have the field make $3,235,000. The least possible in $3,200,000 because of the $400,000 MLB minimum.

Wow.

11larkin11
08-20-2009, 03:50 PM
Tweet from Fay:



Wow.

Is Nix the only one not making minimum?

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:51 PM
Is Nix the only one not making minimum?

That's what I would assume

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:51 PM
As the offenses continue to shoot themselves in the foot with the few runners they do get, I predict a 24 inning 1-1 suspended game after three thunderstorms roll through and rain delays take the game to 3 am.

NJReds
08-20-2009, 03:52 PM
The Reds must not want to deal Arroyo or Harang, because I can't believe that not one team in a pennant race wouldn't want one of those guys in the rotation. Either would fit in the Dodgers rotation nicely.

HokieRed
08-20-2009, 03:53 PM
The Reds must not want to deal Arroyo or Harang, because I can't believe that not one team in a pennant race wouldn't want one of those guys in the rotation. Either would fit in the Dodgers rotation nicely.

Just speaks to how much their contracts are out of line with the market.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:56 PM
The Reds must not want to deal Arroyo or Harang, because I can't believe that not one team in a pennant race wouldn't want one of those guys in the rotation. Either would fit in the Dodgers rotation nicely.Dodgers just picked up Padilla, so they're just trying to get by on the cheap.

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:56 PM
Herrera into the game to face Velez and Uribe with men on 1st and 2nd....Velez lines out to Nix

Jon Miller is astounded that Herrera has the kind of numbers that he does

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Danny Ray gets Uribe with the screwball off of the plate....headed to the 9th with murderers' row due up ;)

NJReds
08-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Dodgers just picked up Padilla, so they're just trying to get by on the cheap.

If their lead continues to dwindle, I would think that they'd want to open up their wallet.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Herrera saves the day, gets 2 outs and strands the 2 runners Massett gave him. Massett has too few clean innings, something he needs to improve before he can be considered a legit late inning answer.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 03:58 PM
If their lead continues to dwindle, I would think that they'd want to open up their wallet.They better hurry up. I would imagine if they are going to take the contract, they're going to want them for the postseason.

NJReds
08-20-2009, 04:02 PM
They better hurry up.

Your darn right. Or they better hope Padilla is the answer.

membengal
08-20-2009, 04:04 PM
Your darn right. Or they better hope Padilla is the answer.

He's not. But, hey, good luck to the Dodgers on their delusion...

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Gomes K's on 3 sliders.....Dickerson up with Tatum on first after Velez dropped his pop up...

Dickerson flies out to left center.....Cordero on his way in according to the Giants broadcast

jojo
08-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Did someone forget to open the gates before today's game?

traderumor
08-20-2009, 04:09 PM
Reds get a runner on thanks to a Velez error, but Gomes whiffs and Dickerson flies out.

As if your sister as your prom date isn't enough, she wants to go to the after prom, also known as extra innings between two pathetic offensive teams.

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 04:15 PM
CoCo with a good inning after Tatum throws out Sandoval on a failed hit and run...

Stubbs
Votto
Sutton

due up.

dougdirt
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
Drew Stubbs has power.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
Stubbs walk off Home Run!

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
Stubbs hits homer at foul pole - Reds Win!

traderumor
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
Good job rookie!

REDSEER
08-20-2009, 04:18 PM
:D Stubbs :D

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 04:19 PM
It's nice having this feeling again, even if it might be momentary.

nate
08-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Stubbs doesn't hit enough singles.

:cool:

CarolinaRedleg
08-20-2009, 04:19 PM
STUBBS!!!!!

bucksfan2
08-20-2009, 04:19 PM
Guess you can't pound him with pitches in the zone because of his lack of power!

reds44
08-20-2009, 04:19 PM
BCast is going to say this was better than winning the World Series.

Patrick Bateman
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Wow I really wish I could have watched this game. MLB TV isn't working for me at work....

All the years of defending Stubbs, would have been nice to see that. Great ending to what looked like a really boring game.

traderumor
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Did you hear the 435 people in attendance whooping it up! That was thrilling :p:

Degenerate39
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Did Stubbs just match WT's home run total for the season?

MrCinatit
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
Look at the puff of his cheeks when he is swinging the bat...Stubbs was absolutely trying for that homer, and oh man did he ever connect.

CrackerJack
08-20-2009, 04:21 PM
BCast is going to say this was better than winning the World Series.

I guess it has to be back-to-back World Series now...

HeatherC1212
08-20-2009, 04:22 PM
THAT IS AWESOME. Thanks Drew for making my day a LOT brighter (which really doesn't say that much for my day, LOL). GO REDS!! :jump:

jojo
08-20-2009, 04:23 PM
Fat pitch and Stubbs ate it for lunch.

nate
08-20-2009, 04:24 PM
Did you hear the 435 people in attendance whooping it up! That was thrilling :p:

Listening in mono here. It was only 217.5.

dougdirt
08-20-2009, 04:25 PM
Fat pitch and Stubbs ate it for lunch.

And that is the difference between Stubbs (who lacks every day game power in the stats) and Taveras. Stubbs can crush a pitch over the plate.

HeatherC1212
08-20-2009, 04:26 PM
I think Drew just matched Willy's month long offensive totals in two games, LOL :lol:

oneupper
08-20-2009, 04:26 PM
And that is the difference between Stubbs (who lacks every day game power in the stats) and Taveras. Stubbs can crush a pitch over the plate.

That is not the only difference.

medford
08-20-2009, 04:28 PM
You know, Stubbs is on pace for 81 home runs over the course of a full season. If they had only had him start the year in CF rather than Willy T.

Just sayin' cause someone had to :)

TRF
08-20-2009, 04:29 PM
I'll probably never hear the end of this from doug.

good to get a win.

11larkin11
08-20-2009, 04:29 PM
You know, Stubbs is on pace for 81 home runs over the course of a full season. If they had only had him start the year in CF rather than Willy T.

Just sayin' cause someone had to :)

Yea but with that putrid .222 average he'd get run out of here like Dunn

dougdirt
08-20-2009, 04:30 PM
That is not the only difference.

Well yeah, but its been one of the 'knocks' on Stubbs around the minor league forums. That his walks would dry up at the major league level because pitchers know he won't hurt them because his numbers look like Taveras's did in the minors. I always argued that Stubbs will punish a pitch down the middle. Taveras couldn't hit an 85 MPH fastball right down broadway to the wall.

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 04:30 PM
I think Drew just matched Willy's month long offensive totals in two games, LOL :lol:

He's equalled his home run total already. If he could by some chance hit seven more this season, he'll match his career total. (no, I'm not suggesting he will do that, but...)

PuffyPig
08-20-2009, 04:31 PM
Stubbs SL% is .667, OPS .889.

And he had a better weekend than Lincecum.

Now back to the reality of small sample sizes.

PuffyPig
08-20-2009, 04:31 PM
He's equalled his home run total already. If he could by some chance hit seven more this season, he'll match his career total. (no, I'm not suggesting he will do that, but...)

Taveras's career toatal or Stubbs?

11larkin11
08-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Taveras's career toatal or Stubbs?

Taveras's. Stubbs's season high is 12 with Dayton

CarolinaRedleg
08-20-2009, 04:33 PM
I think Drew just matched Willy's month long offensive totals in two games, LOL :lol:

Keep Stubbs, lose Scrubbs....simple as that :thumbup:

traderumor
08-20-2009, 04:36 PM
Well yeah, but its been one of the 'knocks' on Stubbs around the minor league forums. That his walks would dry up at the major league level because pitchers know he won't hurt them because his numbers look like Taveras's did in the minors. I always argued that Stubbs will punish a pitch down the middle. Taveras couldn't hit an 85 MPH fastball right down broadway to the wall.Not to rain on the parade, but he did take some down the middle earlier in the game according to the Brenneman's. Glad he made it count when he got another opportunity.

flyer85
08-20-2009, 04:37 PM
Dodgers just picked up Padilla, so they're just trying to get by on the cheap.just like the Giants with Garko ... isn't working out very well.

TRF
08-20-2009, 04:39 PM
Before we get all goofy with the Stubbs has power talk let's just remember he now has 29 HR's as a professional in almost 4 years. 12 came in 2007 at low A.

It's great that he won the game, it's great that it came on a HR, but 3 HR's at AAA this year says pretty much one thing...

Stubbs doesn't hit for power. He may have it, but he for the most part is unable to use it.

redsmetz
08-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Before we get all goofy with the Stubbs has power talk let's just remember he now has 29 HR's as a professional in almost 4 years. 12 came in 2007 at low A.

It's great that he won the game, it's great that it came on a HR, but 3 HR's at AAA this year says pretty much one thing...

Stubbs doesn't hit for power. He may have it, but he for the most part is unable to use it.

I know we're having fun with our elation at finally winning a game like this, but I'm intrigued by Doug's assessment regarding Stubbs and taking pitches early (I think it was Doug). He noted that there's a difference between being patient at the plate and just taking pitches to go deep. If they're throwing you a lollipop, jump on it.

Still, fun win - finally.

Patrick Bateman
08-20-2009, 04:42 PM
Guys, seriously. I don't think anyone is going to get carried away with 1 homer. This homer will probably be forgotted in like a day's time.

Definitely a cool moment for Stubbs, hopefully he can carry this into the next series.

medford
08-20-2009, 04:44 PM
Not to rain on the parade, but he did take some down the middle earlier in the game according to the Brenneman's. Glad he made it count when he got another opportunity.

I think it was his prior at bat, 1-2 count I think. I'm sure he was thinking he'd get some kind of bender out of the strike zone, but still, that's the type of pitch someone like Dunn would have pounded into the River. Perhaps its just new to the bigs jitters, or what, but according to Doug he has a bit of a reputation for taking too many pitches. Why he took that pitch, I'm sure he's still wondering himself, it was a batting practice ball to match the likes of the one Cal Ripken got in the all-star game.

medford
08-20-2009, 04:47 PM
Guys, seriously. I don't think anyone is going to get carried away with 1 homer. This homer will probably be forgotted in like a day's time.

Definitely a cool moment for Stubbs, hopefully he can carry this into the next series.

yeah, but if you've followed TRF's & Doug's back and forth on the millon page Is Stubbs a Bust thread, you have to wonder if TRF didn't curse when Stubbs knocked it out :)

I kid, I kid, I doubt anyone believes this is the sign of the next Babe Ruth, just something nice to see/hear in an otherwise lost season.

That was the first time I've seen Stubbs since his days at Dayton. I thought he'd be a bit more filled out at this point. Don't know if he'll tap into his power like orinally hoped, but he's definently got room to add some muscle.

LincolnparkRed
08-20-2009, 04:58 PM
Before we get all goofy with the Stubbs has power talk let's just remember he now has 29 HR's as a professional in almost 4 years. 12 came in 2007 at low A.

It's great that he won the game, it's great that it came on a HR, but 3 HR's at AAA this year says pretty much one thing...

Stubbs doesn't hit for power. He may have it, but he for the most part is unable to use it.

How much muscle do think he could realistically add? I would think 15 pounds would be easy on his frame, that could also turn some doubles into homers at some point.

I just want a guy that can walk, might steal and plays good defense while hitting over .260 doesn't seem like too much to ask. Then again my frame of reference is Cpat and Willy T. Almost makes me long for the days of Hopper and Farney

NJReds
08-20-2009, 05:08 PM
Great moment for the rookie. Welcome to the bigs! :beerme:

redsfan1966
08-20-2009, 05:29 PM
Yayyyyy...we win! Congrats to D Stubbs, now on to the historic battle for last place in the NL Central, two games of which I get to see live (ugh!)....

lollipopcurve
08-20-2009, 11:34 PM
Before we get all goofy with the Stubbs has power talk let's just remember he now has 29 HR's as a professional in almost 4 years. 12 came in 2007 at low A.

It's great that he won the game, it's great that it came on a HR, but 3 HR's at AAA this year says pretty much one thing...

Stubbs doesn't hit for power. He may have it, but he for the most part is unable to use it.

So, that's all we need to know, eh?

A couple considerations re: Stubbs and the power tool.

1. It's possible he was asked to work on contact, not power, at Louisville this year.

2. Power comes late for some guys.

There is no question that he has the potential. I've been impressed with his short stroke. And the HR he hit was a shot. Howry throws hard, and Stubbs turned a fastball around pretty darn hard.

People have said all along he's got 20 HR potential, and I don't see how anyone could definitively reject that at this point.

Congrats to Stubbs -- great moment.

CTA513
08-20-2009, 11:51 PM
While watching ESPN they had a note next to Stubbs home run that said he was the 1st player since Miguel Cabrera to hit a walk-off home run within 2 games of his major league career.

Highlifeman21
08-21-2009, 12:21 AM
Just saw the Reds highlights on SportsCenter.

Couple thoughts:

1. I'm definitely amused that Cain's only 3 Ks were Stubbs, 3 times.
2. Stubbs looked too selective in his strikeouts, and while I love walks, keeping the bat on your shoulder for the sake of hoping for a walk is a completely different animal than having plate discipline and what not.
3. Was today's attendance Expos-esque? Looked like maybe 2 dozen people down the LF line in both fair and foul territory when they showed Stubbs' GW HR clank off the fair pole.

lollipopcurve
08-21-2009, 08:11 AM
Couple thoughts:

1. I'm definitely amused that Cain's only 3 Ks were Stubbs, 3 times.
2. Stubbs looked too selective in his strikeouts, and while I love walks, keeping the bat on your shoulder for the sake of hoping for a walk is a completely different animal than having plate discipline and what not.
3. Was today's attendance Expos-esque? Looked like maybe 2 dozen people down the LF line in both fair and foul territory when they showed Stubbs' GW HR clank off the fair pole.

Glad you were able to enjoy the lesser side of Stubbs' performance.

How did you like the fact he hit a walkoff HR?

Highlifeman21
08-21-2009, 11:50 AM
Glad you were able to enjoy the lesser side of Stubbs' performance.

How did you like the fact he hit a walkoff HR?

I thought it was a great moment for the kid to hit a GW HR as his 1st MLB HR.

Forgive me if I couldn't help but notice that not many people were in attendance to see Mr. Stubbs' first 1st MLB HR, along with his first 3 plate appearances were less than stellar.

Given Stubbs hasn't shown much SLG at any level, I'll enjoy these HRs if and when they happen, but I won't expect too many of them.

My favorite part of Stubbs' day yesterday was he got pied. That's gotta be awesome for a rook.

westofyou
08-21-2009, 05:02 PM
3. Was today's attendance Expos-esque? Looked like maybe 2 dozen people down the LF line in both fair and foul territory when they showed Stubbs' GW HR clank off the fair pole.

13,390. Not good and not even close to the 1960's wasteland at Crosley late in winning seasons.