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hippie07
08-26-2009, 05:01 PM
I know this is likely a moot point... but lets just assume that BCast is "tired of losing" and WJ throws about 15 million in the free agent market....

Who would you buy and why?

Updated 8-23-09

Catchers
Brad Ausmus (41)
Paul Bako (38)
Rod Barajas (34)
Josh Bard (32)
Michael Barrett (33) - club option
Henry Blanco (38)
Ramon Castro (34)
Sal Fasano (38)
Toby Hall (34)
Ramon Hernandez (34) - $8.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Kendall (36)
Jason LaRue (36)
Victor Martinez (31) - $7.7MM club option with a $250K buyout
Bengie Molina (35)
Jose Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option
Mike Redmond (39)
Ivan Rodriguez (38)
Brian Schneider (33)
Yorvit Torrealba (31) - $4MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Javier Valentin (34)
Jason Varitek (38) - $5MM club/$3MM player option plus incentives
Vance Wilson (37)
Gregg Zaun (39) - $2MM club option with a $500K buyout

First basemen
Rich Aurilia (38)
Russell Branyan (34)
Miguel Cairo (36)
Frank Catalanotto (36) - $5MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Tony Clark (38)
Carlos Delgado (38)
Nomar Garciaparra (36)
Ross Gload (34) - $2.6MM club option
Eric Hinske (32)
Nick Johnson (31)
Adam LaRoche (30)
Doug Mientkiewicz (36)
Kevin Millar (38)
Chad Tracy (30) - $7MM option with a $1MM buyout
Daryle Ward (35)
Dmitri Young (36) -$6MM option vests with 500 PAs in '09

Second basemen
Ronnie Belliard (35)
Jamey Carroll (36)
Alex Cora (34)
Craig Counsell (39)
Mark DeRosa (35)
David Eckstein (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
Orlando Hudson (32)
Akinori Iwamura (31) - $4.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Adam Kennedy (34)
Felipe Lopez (30)
Mark Loretta (38)
Pablo Ozuna (35)
Placido Polanco (34)
Freddy Sanchez (32) - $8MM club option with a $600K buyout; vests with 600 PAs
Juan Uribe (31)

Shortstops
Orlando Cabrera (35)
Alex Cora (34)
Craig Counsell (39)
Bobby Crosby (30)
Adam Everett (33)
Chris Gomez (39)
Alex Gonzalez (32) - $6MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Khalil Greene (30)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
John McDonald (35)
Marco Scutaro (34)
Miguel Tejada (36)
Omar Vizquel (43)
Jack Wilson (32) - $8.4MM club option with a $600K buyout

Third basemen
Rich Aurilia (38)
Adrian Beltre (31)
Geoff Blum (37)
Aaron Boone (37)
Craig Counsell (39)
Joe Crede (32)
Pedro Feliz (35) - $5MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chone Figgins (32)
Nomar Garciaparra (36)
Troy Glaus (33)
Mike Lamb (34)
Melvin Mora (38) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Pablo Ozuna (35)
Robb Quinlan (33)
Juan Uribe (31)

Left fielders
Garret Anderson (38)
Marlon Anderson (36)
Jason Bay (31)
Emil Brown (35)
Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Johnny Damon (36)
David Dellucci (36)
Cliff Floyd (37)
Matt Holliday (30)
Jacque Jones (35)
Gabe Kapler (34)
Greg Norton (37)
Wily Mo Pena (28)
Manny Ramirez (38) - $20MM player option
Dave Roberts (38)
Fernando Tatis (35)

Center fielders
Rick Ankiel (30)
Rocco Baldelli (28)
Marlon Byrd (32)
Mike Cameron (37)
Endy Chavez (32)
Coco Crisp (30) - $8MM club option with a $500K buyout
Darin Erstad (36)
Ryan Freel (34)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
Reed Johnson (33)
Andruw Jones (33)
Gabe Kapler (34)
Mark Kotsay (34)
Corey Patterson (30)
Scott Podsednik (34)

Right fielders
Bobby Abreu (36)
Jermaine Dye (36) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Brian Giles (39)
Vladimir Guerrero (34)
Eric Hinske (32)
Geoff Jenkins (35) - $7.5MM mutual option with a $1.25MM buyout
Gabe Kapler (34)
Austin Kearns (30) - $10MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Michaels (34)
Xavier Nady (31)
Magglio Ordonez (36) - $18MM club/vesting option with a $3MM buyout
Randy Winn (36)

Designated hitters
Hank Blalock (29)
Jason Giambi (39) - $6.5MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Ken Griffey Jr. (40)
Aubrey Huff (33)
Hideki Matsui (36)
Gary Sheffield (41)
Matt Stairs (42)
Mike Sweeney (36)
Jim Thome (39)

Starting pitchers
Brandon Backe (32)
Miguel Batista (39)
Josh Beckett (30) - $12MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Erik Bedard (31)
Kris Benson (34)
Daniel Cabrera (29)
Chris Capuano (31)
Bartolo Colon (37)
Jose Contreras (38)
Doug Davis (34)
Justin Duchscherer (32)
Adam Eaton (32)
Shawn Estes (37)
Josh Fogg (33)
Freddy Garcia (34)
Jon Garland (30) - $10MM mutual option with $2.5MM or $1MM buyout
Tom Glavine (44)
Mike Hampton (37)
Rich Harden (28)
Mark Hendrickson (36)
Livan Hernandez (35)
Tim Hudson (34) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Jennings (31)
Jason Johnson (36)
Randy Johnson (46)
John Lackey (31)
Cliff Lee (31) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Braden Looper (35) - option
Rodrigo Lopez (34)
Jason Marquis (31)
Kevin Millwood (35) - Rangers can decline $12MM salary for '10 unless he reaches 180 innings in '09
Brian Moehler (38) - mutual option
Brett Myers (29)
Vicente Padilla (32) - $12MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout
Chan Ho Park (37)
John Parrish (32)
Carl Pavano (34)
Brad Penny (32)
Odalis Perez (33)
Andy Pettitte (38)
Joel Pineiro (31)
Sidney Ponson (33)
Mark Prior (28)
Horacio Ramirez (30)
Jason Schmidt (37)
John Smoltz (43)
Tim Wakefield (43) - perpetual $4MM club option
Jarrod Washburn (35)
Brandon Webb (31) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Todd Wellemeyer (31)
Kip Wells (33)
Randy Wolf (33)

Closers
Ryan Franklin (37) - $2.75MM club option with a $250K buyout
Mike Gonzalez (32)
Kevin Gregg (32)
Trevor Hoffman (42)
Fernando Rodney (33)
Rafael Soriano (30)
Jose Valverde (30)
Billy Wagner (38) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout

Right-handed relievers
Luis Ayala (32)
Danys Baez (32)
Joaquin Benoit (32)
Rafael Betancourt (35) - $5.4MM club option
Chad Bradford (35)
Doug Brocail (43) - $2.85MM club option with a $250K buyout
Chad Cordero (28)
Elmer Dessens (38)
Brendan Donnelly (38)
Octavio Dotel (36)
Kelvim Escobar (33)
Eric Gagne (34)
Tom Gordon (42)
LaTroy Hawkins (37)
Matt Herges (40)
Bob Howry (36)
Jason Isringhausen (37)
Jorge Julio (31)
Masahide Kobayashi (36) - $3.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Brandon Lyon (30)
Gary Majewski (30)
Guillermo Mota (36)
Troy Percival (40)
J.J. Putz (33) - $9.15MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Juan Rincon (31)
Duaner Sanchez (30)
Rudy Seanez (41)
Russ Springer (41)
Julian Tavarez (37)
Luis Vizcaino (35) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout
David Weathers (40)
Jamey Wright (35)
Yasuhiko Yabuta (37) - $4MM club option with a $500K buyout

Left-handed relievers
Joe Beimel (32)
Alan Embree (40) - $3MM club option with a $250K buyout
Scott Eyre (38)
Casey Fossum (32)
John Grabow (31)
Eddie Guardado (39)
Ron Mahay (39)
Trever Miller (37)
Will Ohman (31) - $2.2MM club option with a $200K buyout
Darren Oliver (39)
Glendon Rusch (35)
Scott Schoeneweis (36)
Brian Shouse (41) - club option
Ron Villone (40)
Jamie Walker (38)

hippie07
08-26-2009, 05:26 PM
Let me say that I've absolutely loved what I've seen out of Dickerson in the leadoff spot... he makes the pitchers work and (especially recently) finds a way to get on base.

Here's my buy:
SS: Miguel Tejada or Marco Scutaro (no more than 2 yr deals)
SP: Doug Davis or Randy Wolf

Lineup:
Dickerson
Tejada/Scutaro
Votto
Rolen
Bruce
Phillips
Gomes/Dorn
Hanigan

Rotation:
Harang
Davis/Wolf
Arroyo
Cueto
Bailey/Owens

paulrichjr
08-26-2009, 05:39 PM
This is easy
Jason Larue C
Dmitri Young 1B
Felipe Lopez - SS
Aaron Boone - 3B
Wily Mo Pena - LF
Mike Cameron - CF
Austin Kearns - RF

Thanks

Jim Bowden

Chip R
08-26-2009, 05:53 PM
I know this is likely a moot point... but lets just assume that BCast is "tired of losing" and WJ throws about 15 million in the free agent market....

Who would you buy and why?

Updated 8-23-09

Catchers
Brad Ausmus (41)
Paul Bako (38)
Rod Barajas (34)
Josh Bard (32)
Michael Barrett (33) - club option
Henry Blanco (38)
Ramon Castro (34)
Sal Fasano (38)
Toby Hall (34)
Ramon Hernandez (34) - $8.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Jason Kendall (36)
Jason LaRue (36)
Victor Martinez (31) - $7.7MM club option with a $250K buyout
Bengie Molina (35)
Jose Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option
Mike Redmond (39)
Ivan Rodriguez (38)
Brian Schneider (33)
Yorvit Torrealba (31) - $4MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Javier Valentin (34)
Jason Varitek (38) - $5MM club/$3MM player option plus incentives
Vance Wilson (37)
Gregg Zaun (39) - $2MM club option with a $500K buyout



The dream is still alive!

Highlifeman21
08-26-2009, 05:58 PM
This is easy
Jason Larue C
Dmitri Young 1B
Felipe Lopez - SS
Aaron Boone - 3B
Wily Mo Pena - LF
Mike Cameron - CF
Austin Kearns - RF

Thanks

Jim Bowden

Plenty of imaginary rep coming your way.

hippie07
08-26-2009, 06:21 PM
This is easy
Jason Larue C
Dmitri Young 1B
Felipe Lopez - SS
Aaron Boone - 3B
Wily Mo Pena - LF
Mike Cameron - CF
Austin Kearns - RF

Thanks

Jim Bowden

:beerme: Nice!!!

Guacarock
08-26-2009, 06:21 PM
Here's how I spend that loose $15 million:

1. Offer a three-year contract to Oakland A's SP Justin Duchscherer (10-8, 2.54 ERA). Duchscherer is coming off a $3.9 million one-year contract with the A's. He's currently out for the rest of the season while undergoing treatment for a form of clinical depression. Offer him $6 million and $7 million for his first two years, increasing to $10 million in 2012 after Harang-Arroyo are off the books. Why he makes sense? High-ability young pitcher to join the Reds' youth-oriented (Volquez, Cueto, Bailey) stable. Even so, with the cloud over his health, he probably will sign for a little less than other pitchers of comparable status. Could be great teammates with Votto -- they could help pull each other out of the dumps should either suffer the blues in 2010 and beyond.

2. Offer a $3-$4 million 1- or 2-year deal to Miguel Olivo, assuming the Royals don't pick up the $3.25 million mutual option they have on the catcher. Why? He can add some power, he has decent defensive and game-calling skills, and he's also used to sharing duties behind the plate with a tandem partner. Hanigan could be just such a partner. Hanigan seems like he deserves a shot at a starting role, but he also looks like he has worn down on offense as this season has progressed. If Hanigan flubs his opportunity or weakens down the stretch again in 2010, Olivo would be quite capable of stepping up to the challenge.

3. Try to snag Marcos Scutaro at SS on a two-year-deal, say at $3 million in 2010 and $4 million in 2011. Scutaro currently makes only $1.1 million with the Blue Jays, so the $3-$4 million offer ought to entice him. Why I'd go after him: Janish is OK as a backup, but his batting skills are too deficient to make him a viable starting SS, especially not on a team as offense-challenged as the Reds. So Scutaro can start in 2010 and Janish can back him up. In 2011, Zack Cozart could well be ready for his callup. Bring him up in the spring, and let him ease into Janish's slot as Scutaro's backup. If Cozart demonstrates he's ready for the starting berth, trade Scutaro off as he will have fulfilled his role to bridge the gap before Cozart's arrival. Should Cozart stumble in his development, or prove not up to the task, then Scutaro can always be extended if his performance warrants it.

So, as you can see, I've proposed spending about $12-$13 million from the $15 million miracle pool. I would not spend the balance on another free agent, but rather to bring back Gomes for $2-$2.5 million in 2010.

hippie07
08-26-2009, 06:35 PM
Here's how I spend that loose $15 million:

1. Offer a three-year contract to Oakland A's SP Justin Duchscherer (10-8, 2.54 ERA). Duchscherer is coming off a $3.9 million one-year contract with the A's. He's currently out for the rest of the season while undergoing treatment for a form of clinical depression. Offer him $6 million and $7 million for his first two years, increasing to $10 million in 2012 after Harang-Arroyo are off the books. Why he makes sense? High-ability young pitcher to join the Reds' youth-oriented (Volquez, Cueto, Bailey) stable. Even so, with the cloud over his health, he probably will sign for a little less than other pitchers of comparable status. Could be great teammates with Votto -- they could help pull each other out of the dumps should either suffer the blues in 2010 and beyond.

2. Offer a $3-$4 million 1- or 2-year deal to Miguel Olivo, assuming the Royals don't pick up the $3.25 million mutual option they have on the catcher. Why? He can add some power, he has decent defensive and game-calling skills, and he's also used to sharing duties behind the plate with a tandem partner. Hanigan could be just such a partner. Hanigan seems like he deserves a shot at a starting role, but he also looks like he has worn down on offense as this season has progressed. If Hanigan flubs his opportunity or weakens down the stretch again in 2010, Olivo would be quite capable of stepping up to the challenge.

3. Try to snag Marcos Scutaro at SS on a two-year-deal, say at $3 million in 2010 and $4 million in 2011. Scutaro currently makes only $1.1 million with the Blue Jays, so the $3-$4 million offer ought to entice him. Why I'd go after him: Janish is OK as a backup, but his batting skills are too deficient to make him a viable starting SS, especially not on a team as offense-challenged as the Reds. So Scutaro can start in 2010 and Janish can back him up. In 2011, Zack Cozart could well be ready for his callup. Bring him up in the spring, and let him ease into Janish's slot as Scutaro's backup. If Cozart demonstrates he's ready for the starting berth, trade Scutaro off as he will have fulfilled his role to bridge the gap before Cozart's arrival. Should Cozart stumble in his development, or prove not up to the task, then Scutaro can always be extended if his performance warrants it.

So, as you can see, I've proposed spending about $12-$13 million from the $15 million miracle pool. I would not spend the balance on another free agent, but rather to bring back Gomes for $2-$2.5 million in 2010.


Interesting take on Duchscherer ... probably worth a look, but isn't he 32... not sure if he's the young thing you make him out to be. The Votto thing is kinda weird, but this make me wonder ...

do the Reds have a Sports Psychiatrist on staff?

RedLegSuperStar
08-26-2009, 07:33 PM
Mike Lincoln - 1.5 Mil
Laynce Nix - 600,000
Jonny Gomes - 600,000
Jerry Hairston - 2 Mil
David Weathers - 3.9 Mil
Arthur Rhodes - 2 Mil
Willy Taveras - 2.25 Mil
Ramon Hernandez - 4.5 Mil?(3.5 Mil that contributed to Ryan Freels contract)
Edwin Encarnacion - 2 Mil


Roughly the Reds dished out about 19 Million on either resigning, signing, or dealing for players. That isn't to mention the raises players received. So given the state of this organization and the statements made I could see this team spending 10-15 Million. My course of action is a 2 SP, OF, & C. Volquez may not be back until the All Star break.. Owings & Bailey are suspect at best and one might be better suited in the pen. I still would like to see Phillips moved over to SS with Frazier getting the nod at 2nd. Just as last year OF is still in need of an upgrade.. Replacing the offense of Dunn has been greatly missed and has shown throughout the year. So I look for a power bat worth investing a year or so in. I think the Reds have some options in years to come for LF (Votto, Francisco, Dorn, & Heisey). As for the backstop position.. I think Hanigan is a legit starter and would like to give him the full time nod next year. That being said Hernadez gets his buyout and a "so long." Tatum is a AAA catcher as best period. So here are the moves I make if I have 15 Million to spend:

SP:
Sign Rich Harden @ 6.5 Million / year
Sign Mark Mulder @ 2.25 Million w/ incentives included

C:
Sign Josh Bard @ 1 Million

OF:
Sign Bobby Abreu @ 7.25 Million

With these moves you have a Roster that looks like this:

SP
Harang
Harden
Cueto
Arroyo
Mulder/Bailey(Bailey goes to AAA if Mulder proves he's healthy)

Bullpen:
Cordero
Burton
Masset
Owings
Herrera
Rhodes
Lincoln

C:
Hanigan

INF:
Votto
Frazier
Phillips
Rolen

OF:
Stubbs
Abreu
Bruce

Bench:
Gomes
Janish
Dickerson
Taveras
Bard

The bench is a little unbalanced but I would use Taveras as a pinch runner and pinch bunter.. cause he can't hit. I would try Gomes at 1st in Spring Training. I like his makeup and would love to see him return. Janish is a defensive replacement and could spot start at 3rd, SS, or 2nd if needed. This team might actually win 81 games..

Spring~Fields
08-26-2009, 07:54 PM
Paul Bako
Michael Barrett
Rich Aurilia
Jacque Jones
Corey Patterson
Jerry Hairston Jr.

Then some players with speed and a history of low on base percentage. :oops:

SirFelixCat
08-26-2009, 08:58 PM
Bullpen:
Cordero
Burton
Masset
Owings
Herrera
Rhodes
Lincoln


You missed Fisher.

*BaseClogger*
08-26-2009, 11:52 PM
SP:
Sign Rich Harden @ 6.5 Million / year
Sign Mark Mulder @ 2.25 Million w/ incentives included

Harden: unrealistic. He has stayed relatively healthy the last two seasons and will get a larger contract. I especially doubt he wants to pitch in GABP.

Mulder: he's done. $2.25M guaranteed is crazy talk.


OF:
Sign Bobby Abreu @ 7.25 Million

He's gonna get a bigger raise than that with the kind of season he is having, especially if it is to play with the Reds...

RedEye
08-26-2009, 11:59 PM
Second basemen
Ronnie Belliard (35)
Jamey Carroll (36)
Alex Cora (34)
Craig Counsell (39)
Mark DeRosa (35)
David Eckstein (35)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
Orlando Hudson (32)
Akinori Iwamura (31) - $4.25MM club option with a $250K buyout
Adam Kennedy (34)
Felipe Lopez (30)
Mark Loretta (38)
Pablo Ozuna (35)
Placido Polanco (34)
Freddy Sanchez (32) - $8MM club option with a $600K buyout; vests with 600 PAs
Juan Uribe (31)

Shortstops
Orlando Cabrera (35)
Alex Cora (34)
Craig Counsell (39)
Bobby Crosby (30)
Adam Everett (33)
Chris Gomez (39)
Alex Gonzalez (32) - $6MM mutual option with a $500K buyout
Khalil Greene (30)
Jerry Hairston Jr. (34)
John McDonald (35)
Marco Scutaro (34)
Miguel Tejada (36)
Omar Vizquel (43)
Jack Wilson (32) - $8.4MM club option with a $600K buyout


It is written.

*BaseClogger*
08-27-2009, 12:01 AM
It is written.

:luvu:

OnBaseMachine
08-27-2009, 12:16 AM
I'd love to see Jason Bay or Jermaine Dye in LF, but that's unlikely. Justin Duchscherer would be a nice pickup too.

Along with those moves, acquire a SS like Hardy and you have the makings of a pretty good team.

LF Jermaine Dye/Jason Bay
CF Chris Dickerson/Drew Stubbs/Chris Heisey
RF Jay Bruce
3B Scott Rolen
SS JJ Hardy
2B Brandon Phillips
1B Joey Votto
C Ryan Hanigan/acquisition

KoryMac5
08-27-2009, 12:33 AM
Xavier Nady might be a guy I would consider taking a shot at. He can play some first base and the outfield as well. Plus he has been injured all year so the market might be depressed for him.

I like the Olivio suggestion as well. I think Cueto with some of his head problems may benefit from a latino catcher who calls a good game.

corkedbat
08-27-2009, 12:48 AM
Who I'd like to see the Reds consider. Some possible and some pipedreams.


Catchers - I'd consider one of these four to team with Hanigan

Josh Bard (32)
Bengie Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option
Brian Schneider (33)

Second basemen

Mark DeRosa (35) - I wouldn't, but I bet Walt would
Orlando Hudson (32) - if BP moves to SS
Chone Figgins (32) - ditto, love the thought of Figgins keading off

Shortstops

Marco Scutaro (34) - only as a stopgap at the right price

Left fielders - I'd add any of these guys but most are probably out of the Reds price range

Jason Bay (31)
Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Bobby Abreu (36)
Jermaine Dye (36) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Vladimir Guerrero (34)
Xavier Nady (31)

Starting pitchers -the further down the list you go, the more realistic the Reds chances of signing them

Cliff Lee (31) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Brandon Webb (31) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Rich Harden (28)
John Lackey (31)
Jason Marquis (31)
Brett Myers (29)
Doug Davis (34)
Randy Wolf (33)


Right-handed relievers

Bob Howry (36) - if the price was right

Left-handed relievers - just because the Reds always seem to be looking at lefties

Joe Beimel (32)
John Grabow (31)
Will Ohman (31) - $2.2MM club option with a $200K buyout

Mario-Rijo
08-27-2009, 04:22 AM
Normally I like to be cost efficient when doing these things but it's time for an impact player.

Sign Carl Crawford who makes everyone behind him better, that is one move that would make a serious change in the dynamics of the offense. I'd also move him to CF, no sense in a big money guy like that playing LF. I'd turn down Ramon's option but then re-offer him a lesser contract to continue to platoon/backup at catcher and 1st. And lastly I'd trade for my guy Macier Izturis who will make a little bit of nothing for his last year of arbitration. Any money left I'd take a shot at Randy Wolf on a 1 year deal. I like Duchscherer but Wolf is probably more in the price range and I'm partial to LHP's at least with this current team.

Crawford CF
Izturis SS
Votto 1B
BP 2B
Bruce RF
Rolen 3B
Dickerson/Balentein LF
Hanigan C

Bench:
Balentein OF (or Gomes)
Nix OF
Ramon C/1B
Rosales UT (Or perhaps Valaika/Frazier)
Janish SS (Unless Valaika or Cozart can steal the job in S/T)

Cueto
Harang
Arroyo
Wolf
Bailey/Owings

Cordero
Rhodes
Masset
Burton
Bray
Fisher
Herrera

Jpup
08-27-2009, 10:56 AM
David Eckstein signed an extension with the Padres. He won't be a Red unless they trade for him.

GADawg
08-27-2009, 11:20 AM
David Eckstein signed an extension with the Padres. He won't be a Red unless they trade for him.

well, we got that going for us

MississippiRed
08-27-2009, 11:36 AM
well, we got that going for us

Which is nice

fearofpopvol1
08-27-2009, 02:31 PM
Who I'd like to see the Reds consider. Some possible and some pipedreams.


Catchers - I'd consider one of these four to team with Hanigan

Josh Bard (32)
Bengie Molina (35)
Miguel Olivo (31) - $3.25MM mutual option
Brian Schneider (33)

Second basemen

Mark DeRosa (35) - I wouldn't, but I bet Walt would
Orlando Hudson (32) - if BP moves to SS
Chone Figgins (32) - ditto, love the thought of Figgins keading off

Shortstops

Marco Scutaro (34) - only as a stopgap at the right price

Left fielders - I'd add any of these guys but most are probably out of the Reds price range

Jason Bay (31)
Carl Crawford (28) - $10MM club option with a $1.25MM buyout
Bobby Abreu (36)
Jermaine Dye (36) - $12MM mutual option with a $1MM buyout
Vladimir Guerrero (34)
Xavier Nady (31)

Starting pitchers -the further down the list you go, the more realistic the Reds chances of signing them

Cliff Lee (31) - $8MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Brandon Webb (31) - $8.5MM club option with a $500K+ buyout
Rich Harden (28)
John Lackey (31)
Jason Marquis (31)
Brett Myers (29)
Doug Davis (34)
Randy Wolf (33)


Right-handed relievers

Bob Howry (36) - if the price was right

Left-handed relievers - just because the Reds always seem to be looking at lefties

Joe Beimel (32)
John Grabow (31)
Will Ohman (31) - $2.2MM club option with a $200K buyout

you can count on lee and webb's options being picked up.

Tom Servo
08-27-2009, 03:25 PM
you can count on lee and webb's options being picked up.
Lee for sure, not necessarily Webb.

Kc61
08-27-2009, 03:53 PM
There are a lot of good possibilities for the Reds.

Some outfielders who can hit and are a bit older so might take a two-year deal; Scutaro as a stopgap at short; Schneider, a lefty catcher to split with Hanigan; and a few pitchers who could fill any holes -- Reds will need at least one reliever and could always use another starter.

Mario-Rijo
08-28-2009, 04:11 AM
There are a lot of good possibilities for the Reds.

Some outfielders who can hit and are a bit older so might take a two-year deal; Scutaro as a stopgap at short; Schneider, a lefty catcher to split with Hanigan; and a few pitchers who could fill any holes -- Reds will need at least one reliever and could always use another starter.

I think Schneider is toast.

Ron Madden
08-28-2009, 04:20 AM
There are a lot of good possibilities for the Reds.

Some outfielders who can hit and are a bit older so might take a two-year deal; Scutaro as a stopgap at short; Schneider, a lefty catcher to split with Hanigan; and a few pitchers who could fill any holes -- Reds will need at least one reliever and could always use another starter.

I'm growing tired of over paying for stop gaps that are well past their prime.

We have to aquire young talent. The ony way to do that is to pay for it in the free agent market or trade some of our young talent to meet our needs.

redsfandan
08-28-2009, 03:27 PM
I think Schneider is toast.
Yeah a .574 OPS isn't worth paying for especially since any catcher we bring in needs to have more power than Hanigan and Schneider doesn't fit.

RedLegSuperStar
08-28-2009, 04:34 PM
Is this team holding tryouts? I up for the challange.