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nemesis
08-26-2009, 07:31 PM
Bobby Crosby

http://www.mercurynews.com/sportshea...=1&forced=true

Seems like a Walt type of guy...

Forgive me if I'm wrong doesn't he have some kinda ties to Walt?

Also before you roast me I am not advocating at all for him. But since we might need a 1 year stop gap to figure out if Cozrt is the guy, Might actually worth a 1 yr 3 mil kinda deal...

Seems like a low risk move to me. If he's what he has been its better than what we have, if he rebounds, Kudos to Walt.
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thorn
08-26-2009, 07:35 PM
Maicer Izturis of the Angles should be available, probably not on a 1 year deal but I would take him and not wait on Cozart.

Javy Pornstache
08-26-2009, 07:38 PM
You mean Bobby Crosby, the Oakland SS? Bubba at SS is probably something we don't wanna see :)

GIDP
08-26-2009, 07:45 PM
Bobby Crosby :bowrofl: That guy is worse than AGon

Griffey012
08-26-2009, 07:47 PM
Maicer Izturis of the Angles should be available, probably not on a 1 year deal but I would take him and not wait on Cozart.

If Izturis plays above average D I would love to have him in the lineup, I really have no idea about his defensive skills though. He would be a great 1 or 2 guy in the order an hits the ball pretty well an consistent, not to mention if we still have Dusty our SS will be batting #2 anyway.

nemesis
08-26-2009, 08:13 PM
If Izturis plays above average D I would love to have him in the lineup, I really have no idea about his defensive skills though. He would be a great 1 or 2 guy in the order an hits the ball pretty well an consistent, not to mention if we still have Dusty our SS will be batting #2 anyway.

Izturis plays a good SS. Good hands, Accurate Arm. Not sure about his range though... only 4 E's in his last 71 starts / 76 Games at SS the last 2 years.

My guess is he is the Primo get at SS in the offseason. Probaly looking at 4 / 32 for him which is not to bad but out of the Reds range.

TheBigLebowski
08-26-2009, 08:41 PM
I am hoping we pursue Scutaro.

But prepare yourselves for the Paul Janish Era, 'cause it's 'a comin'.

nemesis
08-26-2009, 08:48 PM
Bobby Crosby :bowrofl: That guy is worse than AGon

Has a URZ of 4.1 at SS lifetime...

Crosby - 2007 .278 / .341 / .619
2008 .296 / .349 / .646
2009 .294 / .365 / .659

Shows an improving albeit terrible OPS over the last last 3 years in a extreme pitchers park with alot tougher pitching in the AL West than we have here in the NL Central.

Going probaly 50+ games a year against Weaver, Lackey, E Santana, Saunders, Millwood, Padillia, Feldman, Holland, Bedard and King Felix in 3 Pitchers parks and one hitters haven. (Texas)


Has a 6.8 URZ at SS at Lifetime...

Gonzo - 2007 .325 / .468 / .793
2008 DNP
2009 .258 / .296 / .554 (Cincy)
.243 / .378 / .621 (Bos)

Shows a declining OPS In a extreme hitters park in the NL Central

Going 50 Games against Wainwright, Carpenter, Pinero, Loshe, Zambrano, Gallardo, Looper, Duke, Oswalt and W Rodriguez in all neutral (St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Milwalkee) or extreme hitters parks. (Houston, Cincy, Chicago)

I would almost a change from AL West to NL Central would bump his OPS .03 - .05 alone. Playing for a payday and starting everyday could factor in as well...

I say its worth a $2 - 3 Million gamble...

PhillipsHead
08-26-2009, 10:54 PM
If Janish is our plan for next season, I might not watch a game next year...

demas863
08-26-2009, 10:57 PM
Janisch is the man and is going to be good. Mark it down.

Captain Hook
08-26-2009, 11:04 PM
Janisch is the man and is going to be good. Mark it down.

That's a bold prediction.:eek:

I admit that I think that he might be capable of being average for 1 season(I base this on nothing at all, it's just a hunch).While that is a stretch saying he might be good is almost like saying Taveras will have a .350 obp and hit 20 HRs next year.It's not going to happen.

nemesis
08-26-2009, 11:25 PM
That's a bold prediction.:eek:

I admit that I think that he might be capable of being average for 1 season(I base this on nothing at all, it's just a hunch).While that is a stretch saying he might be good is almost like saying Taveras will have a .350 obp and hit 20 HRs next year.It's not going to happen.

If Taveras hits 10 HR's next year there ought to be a full blown PED investigation in the clubhouse...

mlh1981
08-27-2009, 10:16 AM
I'd rather have Sidney Crosby play SS than Bobby Crosby.

Actually, in all seriousness, it just seems like another guy that couldn't get it going in one locale, and we are hoping a change of scenery will benefit him and turn around his career.

Granted, playing in Great American Ballpark as opposed to that hitters graveyard/junkyard out in Oakland would probably help out his game a lot.

Knightro28
08-27-2009, 11:21 AM
Janish stays at SS. Rolen, Janish, BP and Votto represent a sound defensive infield. The other three make up for Janish's lack of offense. Saves $$$ so we can focus on the SP sitch. I really don't mind Stubbs' lack of offense as an everyday player next year either... All around upgrade from Willy, and he can be surrounded by some pop in FA or Balentien/Gomes/Bruce

Chris Sabowned
08-27-2009, 11:39 AM
Even though he has played 2B recently, how about brining back Felipe Lopez for the SS job?

He'll only be 30, and he's hitting over .300 with an OPS over .800 this year.

nemesis
08-27-2009, 02:54 PM
Even though he has played 2B recently, how about brining back Felipe Lopez for the SS job?

He'll only be 30, and he's hitting over .300 with an OPS over .800 this year.

I think there is to much water under that bridge...

PhillipsHead
08-27-2009, 03:09 PM
No, no...he'd disturb the club's 'plan' of excellent defense matched with great pitching...

Chris Sabowned
08-28-2009, 03:24 PM
No, no...he'd disturb the club's 'plan' of excellent defense matched with great pitching...

Yah, you're probably right. Our best bet would just be to bring back Juan Castro!!!
:cool:

Slyder
08-28-2009, 03:58 PM
If Taveras hits 10 HR's next year there ought to be a full blown PED investigation in the clubhouse...

If Tavares hits 5 HRs next year there ought to be a full blown PED investigation... unless its at the local LL field as the Reds release him.

Red in Atl
08-30-2009, 01:36 PM
Taveras should never put on a Reds uniform again. Release him as soon as he's off the DL. Find a fake injury for the rest of the season. Trade him for some extra infield dirt.

ANYTHING BUT BACK IN THIS LINEUP!

Hondo
08-31-2009, 09:32 PM
Why don't we find the worst players out there and sign them.

Wait, we do already?

Anyway... I would just as soon see Janish out there at SS for 145 Games as to any of the players mentioned above...

gedred69
09-01-2009, 08:52 PM
I wouldn't count out Valaika just yet. Yeah, he had a rough 1/2+ season, but after the DL stint, he is back more like his '08 Reds Minors Player of the Year self.

PTI (pti)
09-02-2009, 10:13 AM
I'd give just about anything to see Janish improve his performance at the plate. Not asking for much at all, just maybe 250 / 330, and a home run every 3-4 weeks. Pretty sure we'll never see that happen, though. :(


Sucks, because he is *so* good defensively.


But I'd rather see Janish get the job for good than leave it up to Walt Jock-er-ty to go out and find some second-rate clown who nobody else wants (ie = Taveras).

GIDP
09-02-2009, 10:37 AM
Its a shame this season was thrown away by Dusty when it came to noticing which players were better than other players. I will never stop being amazed at how he buries guys when they arent his guys. There was a point in the season where Janish was Dustys 5th option to play SS.

Kingspoint
09-02-2009, 05:36 PM
Trade Cordero and Arroyo for one Shortstop even if we have to eat $11M next season to get it done. That should get us an above average Shortstop.

flash
09-03-2009, 09:07 AM
Sign Josh Horn and invite him to Spring training. See what he has got.

CySeymour
09-03-2009, 10:25 AM
Rob Neyer wrote about the Ray's middle infield depth. Could be a good trade partner for the Reds:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-5-11/For-Rays--wait--til-next-year.html

If it's Bartlett that they try to move, who from the Reds organization would you be willing to give up? And remember, Tampa Bay wouldn't be able to take on payroll, so no Arroyo or Cordero.

Kingspoint
09-04-2009, 06:12 PM
Rob Neyer wrote about the Ray's middle infield depth. Could be a good trade partner for the Reds:

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-5-11/For-Rays--wait--til-next-year.html

If it's Bartlett that they try to move, who from the Reds organization would you be willing to give up? And remember, Tampa Bay wouldn't be able to take on payroll, so no Arroyo or Cordero.

I'd give up anybody to get a great Shortstop, but the age of the shortstop would have to coincide with the REDS' chances of winning the World Series. Right now, that would mean that the Shortstop would have to be 25 or less right now.