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cincinnati chili
09-09-2009, 10:42 PM
I'm at the game. Anyone here? Game thread? Mcdonald made the worst throw in th history of pro ball

redsmetz
09-09-2009, 10:43 PM
I wonder one no one started a game thread tonight. I thought maybe there was a rain delay. How did the Rockies score their two runs?

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Sac Fly scored Reds pest Young. Single by Atkins plated Gonzalez.

VR
09-09-2009, 10:46 PM
I wonder one no one started a game thread tonight. I thought maybe there was a rain delay. How did the Rockies score their two runs?

malaise.

Another fantastic ab by Balentien to work the walk.

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:49 PM
Looks like this is the game thread now. Corky Ks to end the inning.

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Young flies to Stubbs. He was turned around on that ball and still caught it easily.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Reds offense makes average pitchers look like Cy Young out there. Hammel is mowing em down.

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Gonzalez Ks.

Spring~Fields
09-09-2009, 10:54 PM
Reds offense makes average pitchers look like Cy Young out there. Hammel is mowing em down.

Is that right that the Reds have one hit through five or am I mistaken????

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:54 PM
Smith FO to CF.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 10:56 PM
Is that right that the Reds have one hit through five or am I mistaken????

Sad but true.

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:56 PM
Arroyo bunts toward 3B and is thrown out at first. 1 out.

VR
09-09-2009, 10:57 PM
Arroyo continues to look good on the mound. And the Reds continue to flip him the bird with their run support. ( I believe it's called giving him the "Harang")

mth123
09-09-2009, 10:58 PM
Stubbs Ks.

VR
09-09-2009, 10:58 PM
That strike 2 call on Drew was a lot of things....but a strike it was not.

Spring~Fields
09-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Sad but true.

Thank you, I was just wondering if I was in error.

mth123
09-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Janish robbed by Atkins. 3 outs.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:07 PM
Helton on first with a single. Atkins FC switches places with Helton.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Hawpe draws the walk, 2 on one out.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:10 PM
Yessiree DP 2-0 Rockies

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:15 PM
Votto K's for the third time tonight.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:17 PM
Phillips lines hard to short.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:18 PM
Joey should be chomping at the bit to get to Chicago since he's usually a Cubs killer. It's been a rough stop for him in Denver. :(

Non baseball player question: Does the high altitude and thinner air really have that much of an impact on a baseball player's hitting? I've seen it have impacts on figure skaters (I went to Colorado Springs a couple of years ago and some of them had to have oxygen after they got off the ice :eek: ) but this is one of the first times I've really watched the Reds play the Rockies in Colorado and they don't look like the same team that swept the Braves just a few days ago.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:19 PM
Rolen K's 2-0 Rockies.

VR
09-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Drew Stubbs in center is a very cool thing.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Nice catch by Stubbs. Man, he had to haul tush to get to that one. :eek:

VR
09-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Joey should be chomping at the bit to get to Chicago since he's usually a Cubs killer. It's been a rough stop for him in Denver. :(

Non baseball player question: Does the high altitude and thinner air really have that much of an impact on a baseball player's hitting? I've seen it have impacts on figure skaters (I went to Colorado Springs a couple of years ago and some of them had to have oxygen after they got off the ice :eek: ) but this is one of the first times I've really watched the Reds play the Rockies in Colorado and they don't look like the same team that swept the Braves just a few days ago.

It's more of a low talent problem than a high altitude problem. :)

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:22 PM
Joey should be chomping at the bit to get to Chicago since he's usually a Cubs killer. It's been a rough stop for him in Denver. :(

Non baseball player question: Does the high altitude and thinner air really have that much of an impact on a baseball player's hitting? I've seen it have impacts on figure skaters (I went to Colorado Springs a couple of years ago and some of them had to have oxygen after they got off the ice :eek: ) but this is one of the first times I've really watched the Reds play the Rockies in Colorado and they don't look like the same team that swept the Braves just a few days ago.

The thinner the air the less friction on the baseball, meaning less drag so balls fly further.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Arroyo should have about 15 wins this year, but lack of run support has been a killer.

redsmetz
09-09-2009, 11:26 PM
That strike 2 call on Drew was a lot of things....but a strike it was not.

Did Marty give you the OK to use his syntax?

VR
09-09-2009, 11:26 PM
Wlad continues to impress. Very good ab.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:27 PM
Arroyo's ERA now 4.17 on the season. Wlad on with a nice double.

redsmetz
09-09-2009, 11:28 PM
Balentien doubled and then so did McDonald, run scores.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:28 PM
It's more of a low talent problem than a high altitude problem. :)

Are you talking about the Reds or the Braves? ;) :laugh: I do recognize that though but it's not like the ran over the Pirates or something over this past weekend. The Braves are a pretty good team. :eek:


The thinner the air the less friction on the baseball, meaning less drag so balls fly further.

Thanks. That's what I was wondering about because the announcers haven't really explained that very well in the last two days. ;)

Hey, a run! We have a run!!! Stop the presses. :p:

VR
09-09-2009, 11:29 PM
Arroyo should have about 15 wins this year, but lack of run support has been a killer.

in his 9th consecutive quality start....he has 2 wins to show for it.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:29 PM
Darnell is living the dream in front of the home folks. Good for him.

VR
09-09-2009, 11:30 PM
I don't like bunting on 2-0. Does anybody?

Great play by Atkins to get Sutton on the bunt.

redsmetz
09-09-2009, 11:31 PM
Sutton, PH'ing, bunts McDonald to 3rd and just gets nabbed at 1st.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:32 PM
IMO Sutton could have beaten that out if he'd lengthened his stride a bit. That was pretty close. :eek:

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:33 PM
Sutton with the SF, but why burn Sutton to do what Arroyo could do.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:33 PM
I'll take Bronson getting a ND over him taking a loss tonight. Please get that run in from third base!! :eek:

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:34 PM
TIE GAME!!! Barker gets a double to right field and the game is now tied 2-2! :D

11larkin11
09-09-2009, 11:35 PM
Barker is really making his case for a spot on the 2010 bench. And he really hasn't shown his power yet, either

redsfandan
09-09-2009, 11:35 PM
Arroyo should have about 15 wins this year, but lack of run support has been a killer.


in his 9th consecutive quality start....he has 2 wins to show for it.
He also had 9 wins in the 1st half of the season when he shouldn't have had that many. It all evens out for Mr 2nd Half.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:36 PM
Say this for the Reds they play hard no matter what. Hammel was very frustrating and they hung around while Bronson kept it close.

redsmetz
09-09-2009, 11:37 PM
I'll take Bronson getting a ND over him taking a loss tonight. Please get that run in from third base!! :eek:

Now lets get Barker in and get him the win.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:38 PM
Drew takes a walk and I totally agree that there's a lot of fight in this club. :)

11larkin11
09-09-2009, 11:40 PM
Stubbs making very impressive adjustments. Even during his hot streak he was succeptible to that low outside breaking ball. Layed off it 4 times that AB

11larkin11
09-09-2009, 11:41 PM
Drew takes a walk and I totally agree that there's a lot of fight in this club. :)

Rule number one about Fight Club: Don't talk about Fight Club

Rule number two.....

VR
09-09-2009, 11:41 PM
He also had 9 wins in the 1st half of the season when he shouldn't have had that many. It all evens out for Mr 2nd Half.

believe it or not, he only had 2 wins in games that weren't quality starts in the 1st half.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:42 PM
COME ON JOEY. Remember when you hit the towering HR off Beimel back in August that sent that game to extra innings. You can hit this guy! :D

/end long distance pep talk to Joey ;)

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:42 PM
Rule number one about Fight Club: Don't talk about Fight Club

Rule number two.....

Whoops. My bad and I'm curious about Rule #2.....;)

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:43 PM
Love his D but no way we can open 2010 with Janish at SS.

VR
09-09-2009, 11:44 PM
Joey's head may explode if he doesn't do something good here. He is reallyyyy pressing.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:45 PM
Or he may just walk and let the guys behind him do something. Thanks for not striking out Joey! :D

LOL @ VR but you're right. He's been the go to guy for most of the year and it's definitely bothering him when he doesn't do something at the plate. Be patient Joey....the Cubs just can't wait to see you! ;)

redsfandan
09-09-2009, 11:48 PM
believe it or not, he only had 2 wins in games that weren't quality starts in the 1st half.
I'm just sayin'. He didn't "deserve" THAT many wins in the 1st half just like he deserves more wins in the 2nd half. Thus it evens out.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:51 PM
Rats. This game will probably still be going when I have to head to bed tonight. The last time this happened the Reds won both games though so hopefully that happens again.

redsfandan
09-09-2009, 11:52 PM
Btw, Jeter tied Gehrig tonight for people that care.

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:54 PM
First K for Phillips in his last 36 Ab's. Big one though as he leaves three.

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:54 PM
Nice to see Ryan Hanigan back behind the plate. :)

VR
09-09-2009, 11:54 PM
I'm just sayin'. He didn't "deserve" THAT many wins in the 1st half just like he deserves more wins in the 2nd half. Thus it evens out.

I'd say 2 wins in 2 'non-quality' starts is less than 2 wins (and 3 losses) in 9 quality starts. He clearly deserved all of his other wins...his runs allowed in wins were

5
1
3
0
5
1
1
2

VR
09-09-2009, 11:56 PM
Rats. This game will probably still be going when I have to head to bed tonight. The last time this happened the Reds won both games though so hopefully that happens again.

Get to bed! Quickly!

HeatherC1212
09-09-2009, 11:58 PM
Get to bed! Quickly!

It's nearly 11 PM (aka, my bedtime since I get up at 5:30 AM) so you'll get your wish as soon as this inning is over, LOL :laugh:

KoryMac5
09-09-2009, 11:58 PM
So after another good start is Arroyo worth the contract he gets this year, $10 million.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:02 AM
Close pitch Blue.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:04 AM
1st and 2nd 2 outs pinch runner for Helton. Janish makes the play. Janish always in the right position.

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:05 AM
I'd say 2 wins in 2 'non-quality' starts is less than 2 wins (and 3 losses) in 9 quality starts. He clearly deserved all of his other wins...his runs allowed in wins were

5
1
3
0
5
1
1
2
If you say so.

HeatherC1212
09-10-2009, 12:08 AM
ROLEN!! :jump:

Glad I was still up for that one! I'll go to bed now so the Reds hold the lead, LOL :D

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:08 AM
There ya go. Rolen delivers and now the bullpen can (hopefully) put it away.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:08 AM
Daley continues on in the 9th for the Rockies. Rolen crushes one to LF. Thank You Heather for going to sleep.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:10 AM
ROLEN!! :jump:

Glad I was still up for that one! I'll go to bed now so the Reds hold the lead, LOL :D

Hopefully the Baseball Gods understand you were procrastinating hitting the hay.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:13 AM
Darnell K's. Rockie announcers with an intersesting story earlier on Darnell. Stated Butch Davis when he coached the Browns tried to sign Darnell to play for Cleveland. This after he hadn't played college ball or football in about 4 years. Dude must have been a heck of an athlete in his day.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:13 AM
If you say so.

That's not my opinion....it's material, indisputable evidence. ;)

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:14 AM
CoCo time. Stress free save tonight please.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:15 AM
1 down.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:15 AM
Daley continues on in the 9th for the Rockies. Rolen crushes one to LF. Thank You Heather for going to sleep.

Good timing as I was thinking to myself after the 8th..."self, Rolen hasn't shown any power since he got here" :beerme:

VR
09-10-2009, 12:16 AM
CoCo time. Stress free save tonight please.

You, my friend, are a very funny man.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:16 AM
Double down the line for Barmes. Giambi up.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:18 AM
Giambi walks, Cordero looked like he was pitching around him.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:20 AM
3-0 to Spilborghs.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:20 AM
Bases loaded for Gonzalez, uggggggggh.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
CoCo can't find it.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
Last 11 pitches....10 balls and a hit.

At what point does management show up?

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:22 AM
BIG K of Gonzalez.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:22 AM
Seth Smith vs. CoCo.

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:23 AM
That's not my opinion....it's material, indisputable evidence. ;)
LOL ok. Well the last thing I'm gonna say on this is that I don't care that much about wins when it comes to pitchers individual stats. For example, Arroyo had 12 wins before tonight. Zach Greinke has 13. But I wouldn't say that Greinke is just a little better than Arroyo. He's much MUCH better than Arroyo. So I can't really say that Arroyo "deserves" more wins.

Back to the game, why does Coco always have to make things so dramatic?

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:24 AM
Rockies down to their last strike.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:25 AM
Smith staying alive. Fouls 2 off, now 3.

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:26 AM
Oh **** !!!

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:26 AM
Single past Phillips Rockies win 2 runs scored. BP knocked it down couldn't get back to it in time.

KoryMac5
09-10-2009, 12:27 AM
Tough loss time for me to move on.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Phillips 'over-dove' the ball. Tough play....but can't expect much of a break when your closer is wild beyond wild, and management can't even walk out there to settle him down.

Boss-Hog
09-10-2009, 12:28 AM
That was a really tough loss.

Boss-Hog
09-10-2009, 12:28 AM
Phillips 'over-dove' the ball. Tough play....but can't expect much of a break when your closer is wild beyond wild, and management can't even walk out there to settle him down.
Well said.

RedsManRick
09-10-2009, 12:31 AM
$12M dollars -- you'd think he could buy a strike.

BCubb2003
09-10-2009, 12:31 AM
Didn't that end the streak of not losing when leading in the ninth? Or is it still alive because they weren't leading going into the ninth?

WVRedsFan
09-10-2009, 12:33 AM
Codero rarely throws strikes. A patient team will beat him every time. And yes, that streak, often quoted as the reason Codero is so good, is over and only luck kept it from being over early. They cannot deal him soon enough to please me. And I know I'm in the minority.

TheNext44
09-10-2009, 12:34 AM
This is business as usual for the Rockies. Going into the bottom of the 9th, I felt the Reds had a 50-50 chance of winning it, if that. And none of that was because of lack of faith in Cordero.

Boss-Hog
09-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Didn't that end the streak of not losing when leading in the ninth? Or is it still alive because they weren't leading going into the ninth?
I think the streak was when leading after eight innings, so FWIW, it should still be alive.

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:37 AM
$12M dollars -- you'd think he could buy a strike.
Didja have to mention that wonderful contract? :rolleyes:

I think the streak was when leading after eight innings, so FWIW, it should still be alive.
Yeah, I think the streak is still alive too. Not sure it matters since we still ended up with a loss but anyway...

WVRedsFan
09-10-2009, 12:38 AM
I think the streak was when leading after eight innings, so FWIW, it should still be alive.

I think you are right on that, but regardless, it's a severe disappointment when management just left him out there. Having faith in players is wonderful, but it has been obvious for awhile that Codero isn't pitching well. This unwritten law that you turn it over to the closer and what happens happens is probably the stupidest unwriten law ever created (if unwritten laws are created :))

Tony Cloninger
09-10-2009, 12:39 AM
It was a play that BP will make way more often than not....but the hot team gets the break. I wish Cordero had a change up....that would really help him beacuse sooner or later the batter is going to catch up to that fastball.

PuffyPig
09-10-2009, 12:45 AM
I see no problem in leaving Cordero in there. He got the big K when he needed it, and Phillips usally makes that play.

He was 33/35 in saves before this game. Taking him out before he gave up a run would be something that no coach in major league baseball would have done.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:46 AM
It was a play that BP will make way more often than not....but the hot team gets the break. I wish Cordero had a change up....that would really help him beacuse sooner or later the batter is going to catch up to that fastball.

Yep, but Cordero has had a very good season, not going to call for his head just yet. % of saves to team wins has to be near the tops in the bigs.

VR
09-10-2009, 12:47 AM
I see no problem in leaving Cordero in there. He got the big K when he needed it, and Phillips usally makes that play.

He was 33/35 in saves before this game. Taking him out before he gave up a run would be something that no coach in major league baseball would have done.

I don't think anyone was advocating pulling him, I'm sure they had no one warming, nor should they w/ a one run lead.

redsfandan
09-10-2009, 12:50 AM
Yep, but Cordero has had a very good season, not going to call for his head just yet. % of saves to team wins has to be near the tops in the bigs.
For as much as he's paid he shouldn't have everyone one edge all the time.

VR
09-10-2009, 01:07 AM
For as much as he's paid he shouldn't have everyone one edge all the time.

Can't argue that. Dude is a drama queen.

cincinnati chili
09-10-2009, 04:22 AM
Single past Phillips Rockies win 2 runs scored. BP knocked it down couldn't get back to it in time.

Very exciting game. This about sums it up. One clubhouse is very unhappy and one clubhouse is thrilled based on a few inches of where that ball rolled off the bat. But instead the papers will say that CoCo choked and Seth Smith was "clutch."

HeatherC1212
09-10-2009, 10:03 AM
Apparently I didn't go to bed early enough last night. Sorry guys! :bang: :eek:

TeamBoone
09-10-2009, 12:26 PM
I see no problem in leaving Cordero in there. He got the big K when he needed it, and Phillips usally makes that play.

He was 33/35 in saves before this game. Taking him out before he gave up a run would be something that no coach in major league baseball would have done.

To me, his record is not a measure of his proficiency. He's been very very lucky to get the save on several occasions. And the defense has bailed him out on several others... last night, it didn't. His record is not because he's a great, lights out closer because he isn't... it's always an adventure and hopefully, a lot of luck.

Tom Servo
09-10-2009, 12:49 PM
I just realized now that we play the Rockies again today, I thought we were done after last night. Crap.

WVRedsFan
09-10-2009, 01:18 PM
I just realized now that we play the Rockies again today, I thought we were done after last night. Crap.

Oh, well.

We should lead the series 2-1 going into today, but some bad luck and jpoor performances by the bullpen has led us to 0-3. I fear we'll get swept and go into Chicago and do the same--for a 3-7 road trip, which would make the record 7-7 over the last 14 games! So much for that 7-win streak, huh?