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Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 07:47 PM
Drew Stubbs cf
Paul Jansh ss
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Scott Rolen 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Laynce Nix lf
Corky Miller c
Kip Wells p


facing Roy Oswalt though :help:

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Kip Wells not having a good day so far. 3-0 Astros and they are still batting in the first.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 08:27 PM
Nice to see the old Kip Wells is back. :cool:

toledodan
09-15-2009, 08:28 PM
its 3-0 houston in the first and their still hitting. with Roy O. on the mound i'll see you wed.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:30 PM
Nice to see the old Kip Wells is back. :cool:

Hopefully the Reds notice and include him on the day after the season DFA list with Taveras, Lincoln, Lehr, Miller, McDonald, Lecure, Thompson, Richar, Barker and Nix

Spring~Fields
09-15-2009, 08:31 PM
Houston Inning Summary

- M. Bourn walked
- M. Bourn stole second
- K. Matsui singled to center, M. Bourn scored
- K. Matsui stole second
- H. Pence grounded out to second, K. Matsui to third
- C. Lee popped out to right center
- M. Tejada singled to shallow center, K. Matsui scored
- M. Tejada stole second
- G. Blum singled to second, M. Tejada scored
- J. Keppinger flied out to right
- End of Inning (3 Runs, 3 Hits, 0 Errors)

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:31 PM
Stubbs Homers. Nice off Roy O.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 08:32 PM
But the good news is that the Reds get to face Roy Oswalt. Happy Happy Joy Joy.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:33 PM
Janish singles. Oswalt must be under sedation.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
Stubbs and Janish say, "Roy who? Never heard of him."

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 08:34 PM
Stubbs Homers. Nice off Roy O.
:jump:

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:35 PM
Make it a double for Janish.
Votto flies to LF.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 08:37 PM
THREE stolen bases in the first inning? Good grief.

Were they on Wells, or Miller? Would Hanigan've had 'em?

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:38 PM
Phillips singles Janish to third.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:39 PM
Rolen SF to RF. Phillips holds. 3-2, two outs.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 08:40 PM
Quality AB for Rolen, deep drive to RF, Janish scores. SF

3-2 Astros

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Bruce GO to 2B. Inning over but at least the game isn't.

Of course, Kip Wells is still pitching...

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:46 PM
Wells K's Chris Coste.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:47 PM
Oswalt GO to Votto.

Here's to you Kip. May all your innings be against the bottom of the order.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:49 PM
Bourne GO to Phillips. 1-2-3. Nice inning for Kip.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:51 PM
Nix grounds to 1B unassisted.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:52 PM
Porky Corky with a pop to 3B.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:54 PM
Wells Ks.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:57 PM
Matsui Homers. 4-2.

mth123
09-15-2009, 08:59 PM
Pence grounds to Janish. 1 out.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:00 PM
Lee flies to Bruce. 2 outs.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:01 PM
Tejada nubs one in front of the plate and Corky gets him easily. 3 Outs.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Stubbs grounds to SS. 1 out.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:04 PM
Janish GO to 3B.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:05 PM
Votto doubles to the LF gap.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:06 PM
Phillips GO to SS. 3 outs.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:16 PM
Wells retires Blum, Keppinger and Coste in order.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Rolen GO to SS.

Bruce FO to LF.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:18 PM
Laynce Nix with the bulging disk (it almost rhymes) FO to CF.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:21 PM
Oswalt flies to Stubbs.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:22 PM
3rd time through the order now. Wells has settled down. Lets see if the astros zero in or he keeps it up.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:23 PM
Bourne GO to Phillips. 2 out.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Matsui GO to Phillips. Wells on a roll.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:29 PM
Corky grounds to 2B.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:31 PM
Wells Ks.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:31 PM
Oswalt pulls the string on Stubbs for a K.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:37 PM
3 up 3 down for Wells. 12 straight since the Matsui leadoff dinger.

Ummm...am I dreaming? Twilight zone? :O)

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:39 PM
Janish with a leadoff 2 bagger. Nice to see Paul hitting again. 16 doubles for the year now. He had that nice hot streak a few weeks ago but cooled off.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:40 PM
Houston coaches checking on Oz. There might be something wrong with him.

Nope, they're leaving him in there. But Brocail is warming up, just in case.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:42 PM
Ball gets by Lee, but Janish holds at third. Double for Votto. 2 on...0 outs. Oswalt getting yanked.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Phillips GO to 2B. 4-3.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:45 PM
Phillips grounds out, but Janish scores and Joey advances to third. Brocail in by the way.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:47 PM
Rolen ties it with a double to CF.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:47 PM
Nice! Ground-rule double by Rolen. Tie ball game as Votto scores.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:48 PM
Ugh

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:49 PM
Reds catch a break and give it right back. Tejada can't make the catch on Bruce, but Rolen tries to advance to third and is out by a mile.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:50 PM
Nix pops out to Lee. 4-4 after 6

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 09:55 PM
Kepp's single ends Wells string of 13 straight 'stros sat down.

mth123
09-15-2009, 09:59 PM
I think the Reds need to aim higher than Kip Wells, but I think he's earning a shot with somebody in 2010.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:02 PM
Wells walks ph'er Michaels. Looks like Dusty's yanking him.

Dr. H coming in.

mth123
09-15-2009, 10:03 PM
Wells was awful in the 1st, but he did a good job tonight.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:03 PM
2 on 2 out for Herrera with Bourne up.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Wells was awful in the 1st, but he did a good job tonight.

Yep. He settled down nicely. He performed the "pitch to contact" theory pretty darned well.

HokieRed
09-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Despite the rocky start, he continues to set himself up as the best in-house option for a number 5 guy next year--though, let me emphasize, I'm all in favor of our going out and getting another starter.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:06 PM
Dr. H with the K! :O)

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:10 PM
Corky with the lead off HBP. Way to lean into one Corky! LOL.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:11 PM
I thought I'd seen some offensively challenged catchers with the Reds in the past, but Corky is a black-hole of suckitude at the plate. Yikes.

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Bronson in to pinch run.

HokieRed
09-15-2009, 10:12 PM
Gameday shows those first two pitches to Sutton being about two feet outside. Is this kid that wild?

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:16 PM
Janish delivers!

HokieRed
09-15-2009, 10:18 PM
Who will really turn out to be the better hitter?--Stubbs or Janish?

Tony Cloninger
09-15-2009, 10:20 PM
It is disturbing to watch Stubbs swing through a fat 86 mph slider like that.
Does it bother anyone else?

HokieRed
09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
Stubbs is going to be a very hard call, I think. All the bad trends of his minor league career are still there but now there's this power surge. So who knows how to evaluate it?

WVRedsFan
09-15-2009, 10:22 PM
Just stepped in for the first time in awhile, and turned on the TV to see two terrible calls on Phillips. Why. One of those pitches was at the ankles.

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:25 PM
Back to back K's for Masset.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:30 PM
Gameday shows those first two pitches to Sutton being about two feet outside. Is this kid that wild?

I've seen him several times, and the answer is yes. He'll go sidearm sometimes and when it swings outside it's JUUUUUUUST a bit outside. In other words...hide the mascots. :O)

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:34 PM
lol Carlos Lee

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Nice play by Carlos Lee on the Nix flyball in the lights. He's been having a tough time out there tonight.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 10:34 PM
Who will really turn out to be the better hitter?--Stubbs or Janish?

Stubbs has a much higher ceiling, but has a lot of issues at the plate.

To give an idea of Janish's ceiling, it seems like he is crushing the ball lately, but his latest streak has been at a .712 OPS rate (not counting tonight).

I'd say unless Stubbs just never develops at all, Stubbs will be the better hitter.

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 10:36 PM
CoCo Time!

BTW, he does have a great entrance song... Enter Sandman by Metallica.

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:37 PM
Coste flies out for out 1.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:37 PM
Stubbs has a much higher ceiling, but has a lot of issues at the plate.

To give an idea of Janish's ceiling, it seems like he is crushing the ball lately, but his latest streak has been at a .712 OPS rate (not counting tonight).

I'd say unless Stubbs just never develops at all, Stubbs will be the better hitter.

The thing with Janish is that lately every hit he has is a double. There's no way he can sustain it, but while he's the double-machine...I'll just sit back and enjoy it. :O)

But yes, Stubbs is gonna be the real deal I think. As long as somebody keeps kicking him in the rear about being aggressive on those meatballs down the middle...he'll be fine. Despite the doubters...that power is legit.

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:38 PM
Country Kepp grounds out to BP. 2 out.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:39 PM
It's never easy with Cordero, is it. Coste with a 2 out single. (that was Blum that made the first out)

Aaron Boone sighting. :O)

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 10:40 PM
Bringing up Aaron Boone!

Great guy, great story, hope he makes a great out.

Tom Servo
09-15-2009, 10:40 PM
Aaron Boone (with an ovation) flies out for the Reds win.

_Sir_Charles_
09-15-2009, 10:40 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds! 5-4 Redlegs! Dr. H gets the W!

TheNext44
09-15-2009, 10:40 PM
He does. Flies out to Bruce

AT1BTTR!

HeatherC1212
09-15-2009, 10:46 PM
So am I correct that Oswalt does NOT have a win against us this year?!? :eek: I think he's now got four no decisions against the Reds which for our guys is a HUGE deal since he usually owns us. Maybe we're finally breaking that annoying streak! GO REDS!! :jump:

Spring~Fields
09-15-2009, 11:02 PM
Final Cincinnati 5, Houston 4

Scoring Summary
Top 1st: Houston
- K. Matsui singled to center, M. Bourn scored
- M. Tejada singled to shallow center, K. Matsui scored
- G. Blum singled to second, M. Tejada scored

Bot 1st: Cincinnati
- D. Stubbs homered to deep left
- S. Rolen hit sacrifice fly to right, P. Janish scored

Top 3rd: Houston
- K. Matsui homered to deep right

Bot 6th: Cincinnati
- B. Phillips grounded out to second, P. Janish scored, J. Votto to third
- S. Rolen ground rule double to deep center, J. Votto scored

Bot 7th: Cincinnati
- P. Janish doubled to center, B. Arroyo scored

Houston Batting
HR - K Matsui (6, 3rd inning off K Wells 0 on, 0 Out).

RBI - K Matsui 2 (40), M Tejada (75), G Blum (46).

2-out RBI - M Tejada, G Blum.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - M Bourn 1.

Team LOB - 5.

Base Running
SB - M Bourn (56, 2nd base off K Wells/C Miller), K Matsui (19, 2nd base off K Wells/C Miller), M Tejada (5, 2nd base off K Wells/C Miller).

Cincinnati Batting
2B - P Janish 3 (17, R Oswalt 2, S Gervacio); J Votto 2 (25, R Oswalt 2); S Rolen (4, D Brocail).

HR - D Stubbs (6, 1st inning off R Oswalt 0 on, 0 Out).

S - D Sutton.

SF - S Rolen.

RBI - D Stubbs (11), P Janish (14), B Phillips (89), S Rolen 2 (13).

2-out RBI - P Janish.

Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - B Phillips 2.

Team LOB - 5.

Pitching


IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
R. Oswalt 5.0 6 4 4 0 3 1 1.24 4.12
D. Brocail 1.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2.13 3.55 (BS, 1)
S. Gervacio 1.0 1 1 1 1 2 0 0.98 1.26 (L, 1-1)
L. Hawkins 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.18 2.34

Cincinnati
IP H R ER BB K HR WHIP Season ERA
K. Wells 6.2 5 4 4 2 1 1 1.40 5.23
D. Herrera 0.1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1.40 2.91 (W, 4-4)
N. Masset 1.0 1 0 0 0 3 0 1.07 2.67 (H, 15)
F. Cordero 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.31 2.32 (S, 36)


IBB - J Votto (by S Gervacio).

HPB - C Miller (by S Gervacio).

Pitches-strikes - R Oswalt 72-53; D Brocail 13-9; S Gervacio 18-9; L Hawkins 7-6; K Wells 98-62; D Herrera 5-4; N Masset 16-12; F Cordero 8-6.

Ground balls-fly balls - R Oswalt 8-7; D Brocail 1-3; S Gervacio 0-1; L Hawkins 1-0; K Wells 13-6; D Herrera 0-0; N Masset 0-0; F Cordero 1-2.

Batters faced - R Oswalt 21; D Brocail 4; S Gervacio 6; L Hawkins 3; K Wells 27; D Herrera 1; N Masset 4; F Cordero 4.

Homer Bailey
09-15-2009, 11:15 PM
CoCo Time!

BTW, he does have a great entrance song... Enter Sandman by Metallica.

Isn't that Rivera's song?

And what should I make your sig be?;)

Sea Ray
09-16-2009, 10:43 AM
It is disturbing to watch Stubbs swing through a fat 86 mph slider like that.
Does it bother anyone else?

Stubbs has a real hard time with "spinning" pitches. The first thing he needs to learn is how to recognize breaking balls and then not to swing at them when they're unhittable like in the dirt. Learning to actually hit them is further down the line.

redsmetz
09-16-2009, 03:28 PM
Stubbs has a real hard time with "spinning" pitches. The first thing he needs to learn is how to recognize breaking balls and then not to swing at them when they're unhittable like in the dirt. Learning to actually hit them is further down the line.

That's an interesting way to put it. Honestly I've never heard it said that way. Interesting analysis.

Sea Ray
09-16-2009, 09:45 PM
That's an interesting way to put it. Honestly I've never heard it said that way. Interesting analysis.

Basically he can't hit a curveball yet. A very common issue for young players. The ones who overcome this become productive starting players. Those that don't have short careers and are role players. We'll see where Stubbs fits in. In his case he not only can't hit them, he can't lay off them either