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Red in Chicago
09-27-2009, 02:41 PM
Gamethread

Degenerate39
09-27-2009, 03:31 PM
Why isn't Bruce playing every day? This is rediculous

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:12 PM
Bad matchup with Wandy.

3-0 Astros in the 5th. Cueto really squeezed hard all day long so far. We were hitting Wandy pretty solidly early on but didn't break thru...now he's settled in and pitching well. Let's hope the bats re-appear.

VR
09-27-2009, 04:22 PM
66 pitches through 5 for Cueto....that's nice to see.

redsmetz
09-27-2009, 04:25 PM
Gomes doubles scoring Phillips, safe and Gomes moves to third on the throw home.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Brandon with a infield single. Gomes with a first pitch double to score Brandon...advances to third on the throw.

3-1. 1 down.

McDonald up....extended his hitting streak to 7 games with his first ab.

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:26 PM
From what I've seen this series from Tejada, I want no part of him as a FA.

Yes, he can hit, but as a SS, he's finished. No range, no arm. Stubbs has outrun him several times on easy ground balls.

Maybe he can play LF, but so can a lot of people.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:28 PM
From what I've seen this series from Tejada, I want no part of him as a FA.

Yes, he can hit, but as a SS, he's finished. No range, no arm. Stubbs has outrun him several times on easy ground balls.

Maybe he can play LF, but so can a lot of people.

Spot on. He's very sound fundamentally and makes few mistakes, but far from a good defender.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
Ramon needs to turn on one here right about to the Crawford boxes. :O)

VR
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
From what I've seen this series from Tejada, I want no part of him as a FA.

Yes, he can hit, but as a SS, he's finished. No range, no arm. Stubbs has outrun him several times on easy ground balls.

Maybe he can play LF, but so can a lot of people.

His SS play this year is about as poor as the position can be played, just horrific.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:31 PM
single up the middle. 2-3 astros

Nice ab from Ramon. Held off that nasty breaker.

VR
09-27-2009, 04:31 PM
6 hops up the middle. Very nice.

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:31 PM
Ramoncito hits one just of of Tejada's reach. 3-2.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:32 PM
Rosie with an oppo single. 1st & 3rd, Cueto up.

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:32 PM
Dusty should hit for Cueto here.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:35 PM
Cueto K's swinging to end the inning. 3-2 astros

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:36 PM
Dusty should hit for Cueto here.

Disagree. Johnny's settling down and he's got a VERY nice & low pitch count. Our bats have been on fire lately and we're starting to get a handle on Wandy. Wandy's pitch count is already over 100 and the 'stros pen has been very hittable.

Tony Cloninger
09-27-2009, 04:38 PM
Agree to disagree......you have a deep bench and bullpen is rested. IF it was before SEPT i can see it but now?

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:41 PM
Agree to disagree......you have a deep bench and bullpen is rested. IF it was before SEPT i can see it but now?

That was my train of thought also. No need.

VR
09-27-2009, 04:42 PM
Agree to disagree......you have a deep bench and bullpen is rested. IF it was before SEPT i can see it but now?

Day off tomorrow as well. I'm ok w/ Cueto staying in just because his pitch count is low....and he needs to learn how to pitch deep into games.

If it was a pennant race....I think Dusty would have pulled him.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:44 PM
YESSIREE!

Tony Cloninger
09-27-2009, 04:45 PM
Well he almost showed why he should have been pulled....and this is not an isolated thing. Dusty did that a few times with Arroyo and Harang.

But i do see...the Cueto has to pitch deeper into games so it might as well be now theory.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:47 PM
For me, it's more of a quesiton of which you consider more important. This one win late in a season already over, or buiding up the confidence of a young cog of the rotation for next season? I'd take the latter. Especially with him coming off his best inning of the game.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:51 PM
First ab in a LOOOOONG time that Joey looked bad in.

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:53 PM
Well he almost showed why he should have been pulled....and this is not an isolated thing. Dusty did that a few times with Arroyo and Harang.

But i do see...the Cueto has to pitch deeper into games so it might as well be now theory.

Cueto has had an issue of being overworked. That has to be considered in to the decision process. He probably has one more start this year. It's Houston, its hot. Not the time for "teaching lessons".

Dusty tends to script his game plan the same way, no matter who is involved.
That really bothers me (among other things about Dusty).

CF hits first, SS second, C eighth. SP goes 7, and if I can squeeze 8 out of him, better.

Cueto, and Bailey still have to be coddled a bit, IMO.
Volquez, too...if we get him back.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:55 PM
Wandy's done. Kepp ph'ing. Cueto still in.

oneupper
09-27-2009, 04:57 PM
Wandy's done. Kepp ph'ing. Cueto still in.

Wandy was gone an inning ago. Fulchino pitched the 7th.

BTW, nice play by Janish.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:57 PM
Cueto has had an issue of being overworked. That has to be considered in to the decision process. He probably has one more start this year. It's Houston, its hot. Not the time for "teaching lessons".

Cueto's already missed several starts in a row a month ago. He's fairly rested. His pitch count is quite low. And the roof's closed. They're playing in A/C. It's quite cool in there. I would've been ok with it either way, but it's kind of hard to be too critical of Dusty on this one.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 04:59 PM
Wandy was gone an inning ago. Fulchino pitched the 7th.

BTW, nice play by Janish.

D'oh! I knew that. :O)

2b for Tejada. around 95 pitches for Johnny. He should be on a VERY short leash now.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:01 PM
Berkman k'd to end the inning. Nice outing for Cueto.

7 innings, 5 hits allowed & 5 k's. The 4 walks hurt but I think only 2 of them were deserved. The ump was VERY tight with Johnny early on.

WVRedsFan
09-27-2009, 05:04 PM
I guess we were due for a game like this after scoring all those runs. It's a shame though with Cueto pitching pretty well. We need a long ball and maybe Gomes can connect.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:06 PM
Double for Gomes to right. 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:07 PM
Bruce Ph'ing...grounds to first. Gomes advances to third

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:08 PM
Grounder to Miggy. 3-2 astros middle of 8th

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:10 PM
Okay, this I disagree with. Cueto still in there.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:11 PM
1 pitch, 1 out. Fly out to Stubbs by Lee

oneupper
09-27-2009, 05:12 PM
Okay, this I disagree with. Cueto still in there.

In search of the elusive and irrelevant W.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:12 PM
Ground rule double for Pence

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:16 PM
Walk to end Cueto's night. Another undeserved one IMO. Ump just wouldn't give him the lower end of the zone...but had no problem doing so with Wandy. Meh!

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Masset in

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:19 PM
YESSIREE!

oneupper
09-27-2009, 05:20 PM
Sometimes you get wins you don't deserve. Not today.

I didn't see the Astros first two runs, but Quinteros HR was cheap.

The team deserves the sweep!

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:22 PM
Don't give up yet. It ain't done yet

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Francisco PH'ing against Valverde

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:27 PM
Nice ab here from Juan. Really battling.

It's not like the bats have gone quiet tonight. 10 hits. Just not the timely one....yet.

Works the walk. Nice.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:27 PM
Nix PH'ing now.

WVRedsFan
09-27-2009, 05:27 PM
Nix pinch hitting. Maybe???

We need to sweep this series.

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:29 PM
DP ball. I didn't care for Nix ph'ing there. Yeah he hit a dinger yesterday, but he's been mired in a horrific slump of late.

Barker the last chance.

RedsManRick
09-27-2009, 05:30 PM
Finally a time in the game when it might make sense to bunt and Dusty lets Nix hit in to a double play...

oneupper
09-27-2009, 05:31 PM
The dream of .500 is no more. /tears

_Sir_Charles_
09-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Ball game. Great road trip though. 5-1.

Unfortunately, that finishes the slim hope of .500.

redsmetz
09-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Well the Reds had great faith in themselves. I logged on to Twitter right as the game ended, and whoever tweats for the had already sent a note saying we'd loss. Sheesh.

Tony Cloninger
09-27-2009, 05:36 PM
Valverde threw him a hanger.....meatball on 1 and 0.....and the usually free swinging Nix does the exact opposite of what i expected. He took it.

Spring~Fields
09-27-2009, 05:41 PM
I guess we were due for a game like this after scoring all those runs. It's a shame though with Cueto pitching pretty well. We need a long ball and maybe Gomes can connect.

Bruce and Francisco starting might have made a difference over Rosales and McDonald, who knows.

WVRedsFan
09-27-2009, 06:10 PM
Bruce and Francisco starting might have made a difference over Rosales and McDonald, who knows.

Well, I do. We've seen enough of Rosales to know that he's not a fielding genius or a strong hitter of MLB pitching. We need to see more of Francisco. Same with McDonald. He must have pictures of Dusty with...something. He also must have pictures of Walt and Cast too. This one just mystifies me. I know he's had 11 hits in his last ten games, but he's struck out 13 times and he feasts on poor pitching. He's herion to guys like Baker. Just can't get enough of those light hitting, speedy players.

HokieRed
09-27-2009, 06:24 PM
Agree. Too much of the offense sitting on the bench.

Spring~Fields
09-27-2009, 08:37 PM
Same with McDonald. He must have pictures of Dusty with...something.

Well I wasn't going to say anything, promise you won't tell anybody? :redface:

I think he has pictures of Dusty with GAC. Pleading for autographs or something like that. :bowrofl::bowrofl:

:oops:

Spring~Fields
09-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Well, I do. We've seen enough of Rosales to know that he's not a fielding genius or a strong hitter of MLB pitching. We need to see more of Francisco. Same with McDonald. He must have pictures of Dusty with...something. He also must have pictures of Walt and Cast too. This one just mystifies me. I know he's had 11 hits in his last ten games, but he's struck out 13 times and he feasts on poor pitching. He's herion to guys like Baker. Just can't get enough of those light hitting, speedy players.

Then again if there would have been batters in front of Votto and Phillips all season that could get on base, the Reds might have won some of those one and two run games that they lost, they might have won 8-9 more games and actually been a .500 team. They have a very fine batter in Votto batting third, and no one in front of him getting on base most of the season.