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fewfirstchoice
11-08-2009, 12:23 AM
Angels get: Cordero

and

Reds get: Mathews Jr. and/or Wood or Izturus(sp)

The money is close and the Reds get their young SS in Wood or Izturus. Infact the Reds would save a little money I believe. Look at this lineup.

1) Stubbs - CF
2) Phillips - 2B
3) Votto - 1B
4) Rolen - 3B
5) Bruce - RF
6) Wood or Izturus - SS
7) Mathews Jr. - LF
8) Hernandez - C

Thats a good lineup and great defense in the field. That OF would be one of the best if not best in the league and the same for the IF. I believe that team could win 90 or more games easy.

Griffey012
11-08-2009, 12:29 AM
Angels get: Cordero

and

Reds get: Mathews Jr. and/or Wood or Izturus(sp)

The money is close and the Reds get their young SS in Wood or Izturus. Infact the Reds would save a little money I believe. Look at this lineup.

1) Stubbs - CF
2) Phillips - 2B
3) Votto - 1B
4) Rolen - 3B
5) Bruce - RF
6) Wood or Izturus - SS
7) Mathews Jr. - LF
8) Hernandez - C

Thats a good lineup and great defense in the field. That OF would be one of the best if not best in the league and the same for the IF. I believe that team could win 90 or more games easy.

Replace Mathews Jr with about anyone and the lineup gets instantly better. Ill take Dickerson, Gomes, or some of our AAA guys first.

camisadelgolf
11-08-2009, 03:51 AM
Knowing Dusty, he'd probably make Matthews, Jr. the starting center fielder. :barf:

MotownRed
11-08-2009, 07:11 AM
We don't need Matthews. We already have an overloaded OF.

Redsfan320
11-08-2009, 10:49 AM
While I definitely like Izturis, I'm not sure about Wood; he doesn't have much experience.

Matthews seems like an okay OF, but MotownRed is right; the last thing we need is another mediocre OF. I like Gomes and his power better anyway.

If Matthews was an extraordinary OF, this trade may be okay, but I just don't think he is.

320

Edit: Besides, I'm not sure I want to give up Cordero.

Redsfan320
11-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Knowing Dusty, he'd probably make Matthews, Jr. the starting center fielder. :barf:

LOL, he probably would.

Vottomatic
11-08-2009, 09:14 PM
Angels get: Cordero

and

Reds get: Mathews Jr. and/or Wood or Izturus(sp)

The money is close and the Reds get their young SS in Wood or Izturus. Infact the Reds would save a little money I believe. Look at this lineup.

1) Stubbs - CF
2) Phillips - 2B
3) Votto - 1B
4) Rolen - 3B
5) Bruce - RF
6) Wood or Izturus - SS
7) Mathews Jr. - LF
8) Hernandez - C

Thats a good lineup and great defense in the field. That OF would be one of the best if not best in the league and the same for the IF. I believe that team could win 90 or more games easy.

This topic came up a short time back. I believe Izturis' contract was up at the end of this season according to Cot's Baseball Contracts.

The Operator
11-08-2009, 11:56 PM
I want no part of Gary Matthews, Jr. in a Reds uniform.

I don't really get why so many people are so willing to unload Cordero. He may be expensive, but at least he's earning his money. I'd worry about getting rid of the guys who aren't earning their money first.

roby
11-09-2009, 12:07 AM
I want no part of Gary Matthews, Jr. in a Reds uniform.

I don't really get why so many people are so willing to unload Cordero. He may be expensive, but at least he's earning his money. I'd worry about getting rid of the guys who aren't earning their money first.

I agree. People need to remember a couple of years ago when the Reds would regularly lose leads (and games) in the 8th and 9th innings. Cordero has changed all of that, and we should appreciate having a good, dependable closer! Keep him! Why ruin an area of strength?

camisadelgolf
11-09-2009, 02:24 AM
Not only is Cordero good as a closer, but he makes the rest of the bullpen better. There's no doubt that he's overpaid, but it's very difficult to put a price on what he brings to the team. If any of you remember watching Masset try to finish out games late in the season, it was pretty much a disaster. I don't have much faith in Burton to have a rebound year either. If you trade Cordero, you better be getting something more than salary flexibility. Believe it or not, 2006 would've been a playoff year if they had had Cordero on the team.

Vottomatic
11-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Yeah, I'd rather trade Harang than Cordero.

mattfeet
11-09-2009, 10:00 AM
Yeah, I'd rather trade Harang than Cordero.

Same here. Our pitching didn't lose games for us last season, which was a (very) nice change. Now what does everyone see as our #1 bargaining chip? Trading (one of) the reasons our pitching was not blamed last season.
:beerme: Cheers mates, that's solid logic. :rolleyes:

-Matt

Griffey012
11-09-2009, 10:21 AM
Not only is Cordero good as a closer, but he makes the rest of the bullpen better. There's no doubt that he's overpaid, but it's very difficult to put a price on what he brings to the team. If any of you remember watching Masset try to finish out games late in the season, it was pretty much a disaster. I don't have much faith in Burton to have a rebound year either. If you trade Cordero, you better be getting something more than salary flexibility. Believe it or not, 2006 would've been a playoff year if they had had Cordero on the team.

I am glad you pointed this out. At times I feel like everyone forgets about that year and the ones surrounding it where we would blow 20+saves a season. If you look at how our bullpen performs as a whole, they are worth the money they make as a whole. So to me it does not really matter how the money is spread around. If it is 12 here and a bunch of guys at about a million or under thats fine. Or if we have a few guys making 2-3 million.

Redsfan320
11-09-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm gonna have to third the motion of trading Harang over Cordero. He's simply more valuable to the team.

So more :beerme: cheers.

mattfeet
11-09-2009, 08:09 PM
I am glad you pointed this out. At times I feel like everyone forgets about that year and the ones surrounding it where we would blow 20+saves a season. If you look at how our bullpen performs as a whole, they are worth the money they make as a whole. So to me it does not really matter how the money is spread around. If it is 12 here and a bunch of guys at about a million or under thats fine. Or if we have a few guys making 2-3 million.

Good post. Agreed 100%.

-Matt

redsfalife
11-10-2009, 02:23 PM
Like the Wood or Izzy idea for SS, but instead of Matthews why dont we get Fuentes. Still cements our Pen, and we get our SS. Wed probably have to throw in a garbage prospect but I like the deal.

muddie
11-10-2009, 05:12 PM
It depends on the length of the contract for whoever you trade for at SS. I would wait and see what Cozart looks like in the spring before I would commit to an outside SS.

vottofan4life
11-12-2009, 05:57 PM
Trades for Aaron Harang?
How about Harang,Taveras,Balentien, and Valaika over to the Indians for Jhonny Peralta, Jeremy Sowers, Andy Marte, Fausto Carmona

Harang to Athletics for Mark Ellis,,,move phillips to ss

Harang to Padres for Chris Young straight up

Harang to Mets for Luis Castillo straight up


Trades for Cordero
Cordero,Taveras,Lincoln,Billy Bray to White sox
Reds get Linebrink,Jenks,and salary relief

Cordero and francisco to Rays for Carlos Pena and brignac..move votto to left

Trades for Lincoln and Taveras

Both over to mets luis castillo
Both over to royals for david dejesus
both over to white sox for linebrink
Both over to Nationals along with valaika for Christian Guzman

KiefMoon
11-12-2009, 06:04 PM
We already have a great defensive short stop why trade a class A reliever for one of those class B guys???