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The Operator
12-20-2009, 05:53 AM
I believe I'm 1-0 as starter of Bengals game threads so I'm trying to get the boys back on track.

I don't have a lot to say about this game as I'm not too familiar with The Chargers other than they're about unbeatable in December and we all know how well the Bengals play on the west coast.

I hope the team can stay focused and play with a little extra fire inside for their fallen teammate, Chris Henry. I hope they can win for him.

Prediction:

21-20 Bengals

GIDP
12-20-2009, 10:59 AM
It's all about the passing game. They have no chance unless Palmer completes some passes over 20 yards.

RBA
12-20-2009, 12:48 PM
Go Chargers!

dougdirt
12-20-2009, 03:16 PM
Bengals will win by 14 or lose by 21.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 03:20 PM
Id be happy if Jerome Simpson caught at least 1 pass

CTA513
12-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Caldwell posted on his twitter that hes getting his 1st start today.
So I'm guessing that one of the adjustments that #85 said they made was moving Caldwell up the depth chart.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 03:29 PM
Good.

The Operator
12-20-2009, 03:34 PM
Caldwell posted on his twitter that hes getting his 1st start today.
So I'm guessing that one of the adjustments that #85 said they made was moving Caldwell up the depth chart.

Good to see. I don't like Caldwell as a kick returner, but he is a good possession receiver and I think with some more balls thrown his way he could ease the loss of TJ that Coles has failed to do.

CTA513
12-20-2009, 04:02 PM
Simpson is active today so we might see him play some but Scott is inactive so I'm guessing Cosby/Caldwell continue to return kicks.

HeatherC1212
12-20-2009, 05:04 PM
Wow, Chad was all ready teary during the moment of silence just now. I really hope those guys can focus today. WHO DEY. Get a win for Chris guys.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 05:29 PM
Need TD's not FG's. Though I did like the pass/run mix on that set.

HeatherC1212
12-20-2009, 05:40 PM
They just need to keep changing things up and going back and forth to keep the SD defense on their toes. If they can keep doing that for the whole game, they'll eventually get the TDs and hopefully win the game. I just hope the Bengals defense can keep SD's offense down. They've been crazy lately. :eek:

Redhook
12-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Nice long bomb to Chad for a TD. Chad got down on his knees to pray to CH.

Brutus
12-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Palmer is throwing some strikes this game. That pass was a beauty.

So glad for Ocho. That meant a lot to him.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 05:48 PM
So much for me saying that Carson couldn't throw deep anymore. Bout time they took a shot down field, plus some play action on the play. Awesome!

Redhook
12-20-2009, 05:48 PM
Couple of observations:

1) The Bengals need to use Brian Leonard more. He's a heck of a player.

2) The Bengals may be a running team, but IMO, they must pass first to set up the run later. Wear out the defense and get them on their heals a bit before stuffing the run down their throat.

HeatherC1212
12-20-2009, 05:50 PM
I hope that's the first of many TDs Chad has today. You could tell how much that meant to him. :)

TC81190
12-20-2009, 05:58 PM
Larry Johnson just got absolutely steamrolled.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 06:18 PM
LJ with a nice run, needs to get out of bounds though. Bengals must attack today.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 06:23 PM
I agree with Phil and Nance no need for a spike on first down. Targeting JP 2 times in the Redszone need to get touchdowns inside the 10 yd line. 14-13 SD.

redsfandan
12-20-2009, 06:23 PM
Not bad. Only one point down at the half and they're looking better than I expected.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 06:27 PM
Carson with 189 yds passing at the half. Had less than 100 all last game. Looks really comfortable today with the play calls, offense looks good today.

texasdave
12-20-2009, 06:31 PM
This team really needs a TE.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 06:54 PM
Good field position for the Bengals need to convert this chance into pts here.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:01 PM
3 and out for the Bengals as they fail to convert on 3rd and 1, ugggh.

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:01 PM
Let's hope they go for it.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 07:04 PM
What's with the bad footing on that field today?

TeamSelig
12-20-2009, 07:05 PM
I've noticed alot of sliding today too

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:07 PM
Bengals D holds the Chargers on third and inches.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 07:10 PM
@#%$!!!!

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:10 PM
Bengals don't score here and its game over.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:13 PM
Lots of time left but Carson has to kick it into gear and take advantage of chances.

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:14 PM
Pathetic.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:15 PM
Starting to come unglued here.

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:15 PM
3 straight penalties and then a time out.

This team better figure out something or its going to get eaten alive in the playoffs...IF they even make it. Right now I'm not so sure they can finish what they've started.

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:17 PM
What the hell was that?

Joseph
12-20-2009, 07:18 PM
Game over.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:20 PM
Not a good series there as the Bengals go 3 and out again. Penalties and mental lapses have dominated this third quarter.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:24 PM
24-13 Chargers as they get the FG. SD scores 10 quick points. Bengals need to regain their composure, very loud crowd.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:27 PM
End of the third quarter and the Bengals offense has grinded to a halt.

guttle11
12-20-2009, 07:31 PM
I want to get mad, but I can't. Mentally they just look completely drained. It's like all at once the rush of energy they had wore off and the stress, emotions and pressure of the whole week just overwhelmed them. They are human after all.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:32 PM
I can get mad at the play calling though. Brat got real conservative again in the third quarter. Everything is underneath nothing long for the passing game.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:33 PM
Got a big break there nice hands by Rivers.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:36 PM
Bengals in the Redszone after a nice run by Ocho. 2nd and goal now.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:40 PM
Nice TD for Coles there bout time he made a contribution.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:41 PM
24-21 now! Bengals D has to tighten up and stop Mr. Rivers.

guttle11
12-20-2009, 07:41 PM
Sometimes a lucky bounce of the ball...

Let's go defense.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Have to get pressure on Rivers, guy has too many weapons to give him that much time.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 07:46 PM
Rivers has the longest streak without having a 3 INT day. Time to end that one.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:50 PM
Big 3rd down coming up here.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:53 PM
Going to be tough with the crowd noise here.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 07:57 PM
JP looking like Mark Bavaro.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 07:58 PM
Great run by Benson there. Heck of a drive in the works if they can finish it out.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Cardiac Cats keep rolling along. They don't make it easy on us.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Glad to see the penalty problem is cured.

guttle11
12-20-2009, 08:01 PM
My goodness, I've never seen a helmet on ball hit like that. Palmer might have saved the game. Two plays to get back to the original line and tie it with a FG.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 08:01 PM
Ouch. 20 yard loss on the fumble there. Need to pull off a big play after the warning.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Just a great hit there on Caldwell, ugggh loss of 20.

Dom Heffner
12-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Ouch. 20 yard loss on the fumble there. Need to pull off a big play after the warning.

Only the Bengals could blow a FG opportunity like that.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:03 PM
You have to think SD wil blitz on third down here. Palmer will have someone singled up.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:03 PM
Only the Bengals could blow a FG opportunity like that.

It was a great hit, lots of guys would have coughed it up.

OldRightHander
12-20-2009, 08:03 PM
Big catch by Cosby there to set up the FG attempt.

Dom Heffner
12-20-2009, 08:04 PM
Just...how do you lose 20 yards on a fumble?

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:04 PM
Cosby has been a nice addition as a free agent out of college.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:06 PM
Just...how do you lose 20 yards on a fumble?

SD tackler came up a put his helmet on the ball running at full force. Ball popped out in the opposite direction bouncing about 20 yds. He hit Caldwell with a lot of force.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:07 PM
24-24 lots of fight left in these Bengals. Rivers has a good amount of time left though.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:08 PM
54 seconds left and one TO left for SD, plenty of time left.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:08 PM
Wow Graham with a couple of touchbacks today.

Dom Heffner
12-20-2009, 08:09 PM
SD tackler came up a put his helmet on the ball running at full force. Ball popped out in the opposite direction bouncing about 20 yds. He hit Caldwell with a lot of force.

I know how it happened- it's just in the history of the NFL, how many times has that happened? Only the Bengals.

Ball on the 19, 1st down....and you get pushed back to darn near the 50. Unbelievable.

I'll take 3, but that should have been a TD there.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:11 PM
Injured Charger after a completion clock will run 10 seconds. 16 seconds left, and lots of stress.

George Foster
12-20-2009, 08:11 PM
is it me or is Hall involved in every big play FOR the Chargers.... Not having a good game.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:12 PM
I know how it happened- it's just in the history of the NFL, how many times has that happened? Only the Bengals.

Ball on the 19, 1st down....and you get pushed back to darn near the 50. Unbelievable.

I'll take 3, but that should have been a TD there.

True it is the Bengal curse. First Denver now this.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:13 PM
is it me or is Hall involved in every big play FOR the Chargers.... Not having a good game.

SD has two really good receivers though in Floyd and Jackson. Hall has not played well though.

George Foster
12-20-2009, 08:13 PM
pre-vent defense should be illegal....they just march the ball down the field.

George Foster
12-20-2009, 08:15 PM
ball game.....wow...just march it down the field...let them go out of bounce..

George Foster
12-20-2009, 08:16 PM
let Chad return it.....

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:17 PM
Damn tough loss in the closings seconds.

CTA513
12-20-2009, 08:18 PM
Can't let guys run sideline routes when they have no timeouts left.

TeamSelig
12-20-2009, 08:19 PM
Ugh......... man... so close

redsfandan
12-20-2009, 08:20 PM
Well at least the offense looked better than they have in awhile. Especially Cosby. Defense just couldn't get the job done in the end.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:20 PM
Palmer played better today and the offense looked better except for the third quater. Would love to have that 3rd and 1 play back in the third quarter.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:22 PM
KC next week, Bengals need that game badly.

Eric_the_Red
12-20-2009, 08:24 PM
Leon Hall owes his teammates an apology for his performance today. Pathetic.

Next week is an absolute must win vs. KC at home. Baltimore is rolling right now.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 08:28 PM
Just like in college, Leon "toast" Hall. All game long. And finally SD, with no timeouts left, can only beat you by hitting a sideline completion, and Hall inexplicably is covering the right middle of the field. My goodness.

Maybe it's been mentioned, but someone please explain the spike to me at the end of the 1st half with 30 seconds left and timeout on 1st down from inside the 10. Even Simms and Nantz were wondering about that. It's seems this kind of game and clock mismanagement has been the norm under this regime.

Also, Caldwell's inability to hold onto the ball late probably costs them another one.

Predictable Bengal loss. I've seen this scenario play out what seems like a hundred times in the past 20 years.

Dom Heffner
12-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Just like in college, Leon "toast" Hall. All game long. And finally SD, with no timeouts left, can only beat you by hitting a sideline completion, and Hall inexplicably is covering the right middle of the field. My goodness.

Maybe it's been mentioned, but someone please explain the spike to me at the end of the 1st half with 30 seconds left and timeout on 1st down from inside the 10. Even Simms and Nantz were wondering about that. It's seems this kind of game and clock mismanagement has been the norm under this regime.

Also, Caldwell's inability to hold onto the ball late probably costs them another one.

Predictable Bengal loss. I've seen this scenario play out what seems like a hundred times in the past 20 years.

Lewis' clock management is atrocious.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Detroit and Chicago back to back will make any team look like there rolling. Zimmer leaves his corners out on an island and Hall got burned today. Historically he has always had a tough time with the bigger wideouts and SD has two of the best. Not a good day for Leon but I do question Zimmer bringing the blitz on that last pass play. Overall Hall has played really well this season.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 08:31 PM
Not having Scott returning kicks is killing this team as well. Cosby is an excellent punt returner, but he's consistently bad returning kicks.

guttle11
12-20-2009, 08:32 PM
That fumble was huge. For one, Palmer was rolling and I am fully confident that they would have gotten a TD on that drive. Second, even if they would have kicked a FG, the fumble took away their control of the clock. SD wasn't getting the ball back with more than 30 seconds on the clock without the fumble. Just a great play by that LB.

Redzone play in the first half really stung the Bengals today. Oh what may have happened with 8 more points on the board at half.

redsfandan
12-20-2009, 08:33 PM
Considering how Jerome Harrison singlehandedly destroyed the KC rushing defense today I bet Benson and Larry Johnson will be looking forward to that game.

Playadlc
12-20-2009, 08:34 PM
The Hall bashing in this thread is absurd. Hall has been lights out all season and just had a bad day today. It happens.

guttle11
12-20-2009, 08:35 PM
The Hall bashing in this thread is absurd. Hall has been lights out all season and just had a bad day today. It happens.

Yep. Hall and Joseph are really only behind GB when it comes to corner tandem. For whatever reason Leon struggled today.

The Operator
12-20-2009, 08:35 PM
Glad to see the passing game bounce back today.

But yet again, the Bengals shoot themselves in the foot with penalty after penalty. It's getting almost laughable. Crowd noise be damned, these are NFL players and every player in the NFL has to play in opposing stadiums for half of their games. Their is NO excuse for these penalties, THIS late in the season.

And the sad thing is, this has been a trademark of Marvin's tenure. Penalties and lack of discipline. A lot of that falls on Bratkowski as well, IMO. Not to mention... I love Carson Palmer, but why does it seem like he's NEVER aware of the play clock. Not only did they take 2 delay of game penalties today, there were a few other times when they should have gotten a DOG penalty but for whatever reason the flag wasn't thrown. Unbelievable.

There were some positives though:

Carson's bounce back. That made me feel a little better.
Quan Cosby: Maybe he can be the guy they needed to emerge?
Foschi: I like him more and more every game. Who knew?

Oh, and what happened to Leon Hall today? He got torched.

Eric_the_Red
12-20-2009, 08:36 PM
The Hall bashing in this thread is absurd. Hall has been lights out all season and just had a bad day today. It happens.

Bashing? Saying he had a bad day isn't bashing, it is honest. Hall played porrly today, and it may have cost them the game. He is still one of the best CB's in the NFL, but today he didn't have it.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:38 PM
Graham 26 yd FG, 25 yd FG, and 34 yd FG. Have to convert those RedsZone opps into TD's. Tough loss to swallow as it should have not come down to the final seconds. On a positive note the offense looked good and Carson spread the ball around a lot more today than in the past.

The D really misses Peko, Odom, and Crocker.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 08:38 PM
Calling a spade a spade is not bashing. Hall played like garbage and cost his team big time today.

joshnky
12-20-2009, 08:40 PM
Yep. Hall and Joseph are really only behind GB when it comes to corner tandem. For whatever reason Leon struggled today.

Agreed.

Tough loss but the Bengals played well outside of a few bad moments. Losing by three on the road shows that the Bengals are basically even with the second-best team in the AFC. Unfortunately, they likely lost the first round bye, but if they can hold onto the third spot they have the possibility of a rematch in San Diego in the second round.

joshnky
12-20-2009, 08:43 PM
Calling a spade a spade is not bashing. Hall played like garbage and cost his team big time today.

However, calling him Leon "toast" Hall is not fair to his season as a whole. He has been terrific all year up until this game. Both national and local media have recognized this duo as the key to the Bengals defensive resurgence this year.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:43 PM
Calling a spade a spade is not bashing. Hall played like garbage and cost his team big time today.

I agree that Hall cost his team with mental lapses today, however he is not the only reason the Bengals lost today.

Penalties and poor clock mgmt, plus Brats poor play calling in the third quarter killed us. 3rd and 1 and he decides to roll Palmer out instead of giving it to Benson, awful.

joshnky
12-20-2009, 08:46 PM
Penalties and poor clock mgmt, plus Brats poor play calling in the third quarter killed us.

I loved the 2-point conversion QB draw, though.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:48 PM
We are all frustrated about the loss, time to put this baby to bed and get ready for KC. I would be happy with a wins against KC and the Jets to close out the year 11-5.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 08:48 PM
They played pretty well. That game pretty much came down to the Chargers being at home.

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 08:48 PM
I loved the 2-point conversion QB draw, though.

I loved that it worked, if it didn't I was ready to put my foot through the TV.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 08:48 PM
Hall had a terrible game. I wonder if it was because of Nelson though.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 08:49 PM
However, calling him Leon "toast" Hall is not fair to his season as a whole. He has been terrific all year up until this game. Both national and local media have recognized this duo as the key to the Bengals defensive resurgence this year.

Old habits die hard. Called him that in college when he was owned by nealry every WR in the Big Ten. I honestly never thought he would amount to anything in the pros, but I was wrong and he's has been solid. However, "Toast" was a perfect name for him today and I stick by it. :)

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 08:51 PM
I agree that Hall cost his team with mental lapses today, however he is not the only reason the Bengals lost today.

Penalties and poor clock mgmt, plus Brats poor play calling in the third quarter killed us. 3rd and 1 and he decides to roll Palmer out instead of giving it to Benson, awful.

I mentioned all that in my post.

I still would love for someone to explain what they were doing at the end of the 1st half when they wasted a down inside the 10 with a spike (30 seconds left and a TO).

RBA
12-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Tough loss to anohter AFC West team.

SunDeck
12-20-2009, 08:53 PM
It's pretty hard to have a good game against the SD receivers.

Redhook
12-20-2009, 09:18 PM
I still would love for someone to explain what they were doing at the end of the 1st half when they wasted a down inside the 10 with a spike (30 seconds left and a TO).

It can't be explained which is why no one can defend it. While the team played pretty well today, the stupidity at times is mind-boggling, just like that spike with plenty of time left.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 09:31 PM
It can't be explained which is why no one can defend it. While the team played pretty well today, the stupidity at times is mind-boggling, just like that spike with plenty of time left.

Could be heard from BuckeyeRedleg's house at that moment:

"Great, first down. Now watch, they'll probably spike it......no they couldn't be that stupid......30 plus seconds left, a timeout....there's no way, right? Oh my God, I think they are actually going to spike it.....you have to be kidding me....please tell me he's faking the spike and will throw it.......shoot me in the head, he spiked it....I give up.............. {long pause} some things never change."

traderumor
12-20-2009, 09:35 PM
It can't be explained which is why no one can defend it. While the team played pretty well today, the stupidity at times is mind-boggling, just like that spike with plenty of time left.What in the world are you talking about? Even before they did it, it was an obvious spike situation in my book. You have to save the timeout for the FG. No spike and they probably only get two plays in anyhow, which is exactly what they got in with the spike.

traderumor
12-20-2009, 09:37 PM
The Hall bashing in this thread is absurd. Hall has been lights out all season and just had a bad day today. It happens.


Yep. Hall and Joseph are really only behind GB when it comes to corner tandem. For whatever reason Leon struggled today.I third that. He has played about as well as someone can play this year. All the criticism does is show the lack of understanding from those criticizing.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 09:37 PM
What in the world are you talking about? Even before they did it, it was an obvious spike situation in my book. You have to save the timeout for the FG. No spike and they probably only get two plays in anyhow, which is exactly what they got in with the spike.

Then call the TO there. Then you have three plays for the endszone.

"obvious spike situation"

Are you serious?

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 09:39 PM
I third that. He has played about as well as someone can play this year. All the criticism does is show the lack of understanding from those criticizing.

A lack of understanding of the game is anyone that didn't think he played a horrendous game.

traderumor
12-20-2009, 09:41 PM
Today was a good rebound game. They should take care of KC at home next week to clinch, but it looks like they will be playing in the WC card game. But losing by a FG on the road to a Super Bowl caliber team bears no shame. It looks like the Minny game was just a bad day.

TeamSelig
12-20-2009, 09:44 PM
I agree, Hall played poorly. He has been great most of the year, but it seemed like every one of their big plays was a result of him. That's okay though. I don't put all the blame on him. Maybe he was unfocused to the stress of losing a teammate... or playing on the west coast, who knows. Hopefully he bounces back because we need him to play well.

traderumor
12-20-2009, 09:46 PM
A lack of understanding of the game is anyone that didn't think he played a horrendous game.It isn't whether or not he played a bad game, its folks making comments like "Toast" Hall because as far as they can tell by watching the game on TV, the guy was in coverage on a play. By all accounts, Hall has been lights out this season, so that is why the comments about how he played in one particular game are unfair criticism, esp. when you are only seeing what is on camera and do not know what his assignments were. That is where the lack of understanding is coming from.

Joseph
12-20-2009, 10:00 PM
I'm tired of saying they played well, just came up short. It's old season after season. This team is not good. Is getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round any better than not making it? I don't really think its that big a difference.

Can they beat Baltimore for a 3rd time? I don't really think so. This team needs a tight end and it needs to learn to pass block.

TeamSelig
12-20-2009, 10:03 PM
San Diego is a great team. We were one very unlucky play (Caldwell fumble) away from possibly winning the game, or at least take it to OT.... on the ROAD... on the WEST COAST.... I don't think it's that bad of a loss...

KoryMac5
12-20-2009, 10:07 PM
I'm tired of saying they played well, just came up short. It's old season after season. This team is not good. Is getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round any better than not making it? I don't really think its that big a difference.

Can they beat Baltimore for a 3rd time? I don't really think so. This team needs a tight end and it needs to learn to pass block.

Yes I would rather have a first round playoff game than none at all win or lose. It is that big of a difference to Bengals fans who haven't had many playoff game memories. The Cardinals backed into the playoffs last year and went all the way to the Super Bowl. I am sure many of their fans were expecting a first round exit as well. The Bengals are a good team not elite but good, they just need to find some consitency and get people healthy.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 10:07 PM
It isn't whether or not he played a bad game, its folks making comments like "Toast" Hall because as far as they can tell by watching the game on TV, the guy was in coverage on a play. By all accounts, Hall has been lights out this season, so that is why the comments about how he played in one particular game are unfair criticism, esp. when you are only seeing what is on camera and do not know what his assignments were. That is where the lack of understanding is coming from.

"folks making comments like "Toast" Hall"?

Well, I'm the one that called him that and I explained why. I mentioned that we called him that in college and that I was wrong about the nickname given to him since he's had a solid pro career. Today, however, he was awful and deserved the title.

There really is no excuse for his coverage on the last completion. He knew they were going for the sideline pass and he's leaning towards the middle of the field. If his assignment was to cover the middle of the field, well I'm afraid there's not much hope for this staff. He's not the only reason they lost today, but he's was a major reason and this is a thread discussing THIS game. Not the season.

And if you don't think Hall was burned several times today, then you will never be able to say a DB has been burned. I guess it can always be blamed on the camera angles or the possible assignments.

So your "lack of understanding" comment is not only unfounded, but a cheap shot and pretty self-righteous.

BuckeyeRedleg
12-20-2009, 10:16 PM
San Diego is a great team. We were one very unlucky play (Caldwell fumble) away from possibly winning the game, or at least take it to OT.... on the ROAD... on the WEST COAST.... I don't think it's that bad of a loss...

TeamSelig, I appreciate your optimism, but to me in the NFL a loss is a loss.

I really don't think losing like this means much of anything good or bad. It's just one more loss in the L column and luckily for them, they can afford it. They just made their road way tougher.

They could blow KC out or just as easily lay an egg next week.

I've just seen this same type of loss with this organization for over 20 years now. They really needed this game and I bet none of those guys feel like they are walking away with a moral victory.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 10:31 PM
I'm tired of saying they played well, just came up short. It's old season after season. This team is not good. Is getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round any better than not making it? I don't really think its that big a difference.

Can they beat Baltimore for a 3rd time? I don't really think so. This team needs a tight end and it needs to learn to pass block.

:laugh:

Did you copy this from a sports talk phone call?

GIDP
12-20-2009, 10:36 PM
Anyone catch the LT coming in for Sproles with 26 seconds non call? Tony Dungy brought it up.

GIDP
12-20-2009, 10:37 PM
Tony Dungy point out an illegal procedure or substitution call that the refs missed. With 41 the Chargers were lining up to spike and the subbed in LT, but he never came inside the numbers on the field, which is a penalty. They spiked it with 36 secs left, which would have resulted in a 10 sec run off. So, they couldn't win w/o help from the refs.

Got it from another board.

Redsfaithful
12-20-2009, 10:50 PM
Leon Hall playing poorly had as much to do with Tom Nelson as anything. Plus the Chargers gigantic receivers and tight end, that's always going to be tough for Hall, he's a little undersized.

The Chargers are probably the best team the Bengals have played all year, and the Bengals looked fine. The passing game is back which is all I was worried about.

I don't understand really how any Bengals fans could not be enjoying this season, but heck I even enjoy the 8-8 years after having gone through the 90's. Today was a good game, obviously would have been better with a win, but I enjoyed it. I half expected them to get blown out and wouldn't have blamed them after losing Chris Henry.

SunDeck
12-20-2009, 10:50 PM
I don't think this is a bad loss, really. San Diego is going deep into January, if you ask me and the Bengals were probably emotional wrecks during the days leading up to the game. That they had a chance to take it OT at the end was actually a surprise to me.
Sure, it would have been great to see them clinch, but let's have some perspective here- they went to a tough place, against a very good team after a terrible tragedy and nearly pulled it off. I give them credit for showing up.

Dom Heffner
12-20-2009, 10:55 PM
I don't think this is a bad loss, really. San Diego is going deep into January, if you ask me and the Bengals were probably emotional wrecks during the days leading up to the game. That they had a chance to take it OT at the end was actually a surprise to me.
Sure, it would have been great to see them clinch, but let's have some perspective here- they went to a tough place, against a very good team after a terrible tragedy and nearly pulled it off. I give them credit for showing up.

I can't disagree with this, though I think most of us would, just once, like to see a game in a situation like this go our way. Would have been a great story is all.

If you want proof there is no fairness in life, look at the way the Steelers won.

And had that game gone into OT, the Steelers would have won the coin toss and won anyway.

The Bengals would have won the coin toss and fumbled the ensuing kickoff.

cincrazy
12-21-2009, 12:45 AM
I'm tired of saying they played well, just came up short. It's old season after season. This team is not good. Is getting to the playoffs and losing in the first round any better than not making it? I don't really think its that big a difference.

Can they beat Baltimore for a 3rd time? I don't really think so. This team needs a tight end and it needs to learn to pass block.

I couldn't disagree with you more.

Redhook
12-21-2009, 07:49 AM
What in the world are you talking about?

It was a terrible call to spike it then. Terrible.


Even before they did it, it was an obvious spike situation in my book.Obvious, huh? Your football IQ is very low if you believe you should spike the ball with 30 seconds left, with a timeout inside the 10-yard line. Plays are too precious to be throwing them away. The Bengals and Marvin's clock management has been bad all year and this play was just another example of that.


You have to save the timeout for the FG. No spike and they probably only get two plays in anyhow, which is exactly what they got in with the spike.

Wrong. There was plenty of time left to get 3 plays in. They could've easily spiked it later if they needed to. Once again, 30 seconds is a lot of time.

Redhook
12-21-2009, 07:57 AM
Going into the game, I really didn't the Bengals had much of a chance. I was pleasantly surprised with how they played. I'm still upset with how they lost, but IMO, they showed they have the potential to beat anyone.

traderumor
12-21-2009, 08:37 AM
It was a terrible call to spike it then. Terrible.

Obvious, huh? Your football IQ is very low if you believe you should spike the ball with 30 seconds left, with a timeout inside the 10-yard line. Plays are too precious to be throwing them away. The Bengals and Marvin's clock management has been bad all year and this play was just another example of that.



Wrong. There was plenty of time left to get 3 plays in. They could've easily spiked it later if they needed to. Once again, 30 seconds is a lot of time.Really not a whole lot more to say, I say its the right play there, you think it was a big mistake. Eh.

Eric_the_Red
12-21-2009, 08:48 AM
I agree that the spike was a poor decision. The way they were driving and passing the ball today, you take the TO and that gives you 3 shots at the endzone. If you don't get it, then you kick the FG.

bucksfan2
12-24-2009, 10:26 AM
Anyone catch the LT coming in for Sproles with 26 seconds non call? Tony Dungy brought it up.

An NFL officiating crew should have been able to notice that. At the same time I think if a procedural play like that is missed it should be reviewed in the booth. Who knows if the Bengals would have won in OT but they sure got jobbed in that call.

camisadelgolf
12-24-2009, 01:16 PM
I think they messed up a lot of calls. The running into the kicker penalty shouldn't have been called (good job, Kevin Huber), and there was at least one phantom pass interference penalty on top of two more pass interference penalties that should have been called. For an NFL game, the officiating crew was pretty sloppy.