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Redsfan320
02-20-2010, 07:53 PM
... that no one has worn #44 since Dunn was traded? On the other hand, #3 has remained in use. Yet #44 has just been passed right over.

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Vottomatic
02-21-2010, 06:38 AM
Who'd want to wear it? It's bad luck from a bad player.

double21d
02-21-2010, 07:51 AM
Doesn't Eric Davis wear it when he is in uniform as a part-time coach?

Redsfan320
02-21-2010, 08:45 AM
Doesn't Eric Davis wear it when he is in uniform as a part-time coach?

Ah. Forgot about this. Well, no player's worn it since the trade. Anyone think it will eventually be retired for Davis and/or Dunn?

Also, Nuxy's #41 is still in use (worn by, of all people, Mark Berry, although Affeldt wore it before him). Anyone think this one will be retired?

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will5979
02-21-2010, 09:32 AM
Ah. Forgot about this. Well, no player's worn it since the trade. Anyone think it will eventually be retired for Davis and/or Dunn?

Also, Nuxy's #41 is still in use (worn by, of all people, Mark Berry, although Affeldt wore it before him). Anyone think this one will be retired?

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The only number that hasn't been retired but eventually will be is 11. 14 would if Pete weren't banned, but who knows maybe they will retire it the day after he dies. A travesty that elite Judge Smells boys club won't let him in.

Redsfan320
02-21-2010, 09:42 AM
Yeah, no one's worn #14 since Pete except Pete, Jr., so it's unofficially retired.

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Ghosts of 1990
02-21-2010, 11:31 PM
Who'd want to wear it? It's bad luck from a bad player.

Most productive and consistent Red in several decades. Future hall of faker IMO

Redsfan320
02-22-2010, 08:46 AM
Most productive and consistent Red in several decades. Future hall of faker IMO

I'm gonna say you meant hall of famer. I agree.

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bounty37h
02-22-2010, 11:29 AM
I bet he doesnt even get 40% of the vote when his time comes.

Ghosts of 1990
02-22-2010, 01:08 PM
I bet he doesnt even get 40% of the vote when his time comes.

500 clean home runs makes you a lock. He'll get to 500, maybe 550 or 600.

bounty37h
02-22-2010, 03:32 PM
I still dont think he gets enough respect from writers to make it even close, let alone in.

ian_madden
02-24-2010, 11:07 AM
Agreed. He won't be a hall of Famer. Unless he goes to the Yankees in the next year or so, he won't be a Hall of Famer. He won't get 40%.

Kingspoint
02-24-2010, 06:31 PM
Agreed. He won't be a hall of Famer. Unless he goes to the Yankees in the next year or so, he won't be a Hall of Famer. He won't get 40%.

He doesn't deserve it any more than Dave Kingman does.

Though he deserves it 10 times more than McGwire, Sosa, and guys like that do.

ian_madden
02-24-2010, 07:17 PM
He doesn't deserve it any more than Dave Kingman does.

Though he deserves it 10 times more than McGwire, Sosa, and guys like that do.

I agree everyday and twice on Sunday, None of the above or spoken of in this thread "should" get in.

But McGwire and Sosa did save baseball.

jredmo2
02-25-2010, 03:57 PM
I'd actually say Dunn has a 50/50 chance. If he keeps up his home run pace -- about 35 hr/yr for his career, and 40 hr/yr for the last 6 yrs -- for 8 more years, he'll hit 600, and that would get even Dunn in. I know "big" guys like Dunn tend to wear down in their mid-30's, but look at it this way: if he hits 40 hrs the next four years he'll be 126 HR away from 600 at age 34. If he plays until he's 40, thats roughly 20 HRs per year. Certainly WELL within the realm of possibilities, and 600 HR gets even a player with Dunn's reputation into the hall.

jredmo2
02-25-2010, 04:23 PM
Actually, 3 more points:

1. Dunn likely will become HOF eligible in about 15 yrs. That's a long time. That's 15 more yrs of sabermetrics gaining influence, and more "traditionalist" HOF voters will go by the wayside. And Dunn has over a .900 career OPS.

2. If Dunn avoids steroid allegations, he'll be on a short list of players from his era to put up huge power numbers "clean".

3. Dunn has actually thus far shown a remarkable propensity to avoid injuries.

Kingspoint
02-25-2010, 10:14 PM
To get to the Hall-of-Fame, you usually need to win an MVP, or be pretty darn close a number of times. Dunn's never been anywhere near that.

OGB
02-25-2010, 10:41 PM
To get to the Hall-of-Fame, you usually need to win an MVP, or be pretty darn close a number of times. Dunn's never been anywhere near that.

I actually think there is something to this remark. At any point in his career, would you consider Dunn one of the top 7-8 left fielders in baseball? I'd say he's currently the 8th or 9th best LF in baseball at best, which likely doesnt put him in the top 20 of overall OFs.

He's a career .249 hitter who is a below average OF and runs bases poorly. He's averaged over 170 Ks/season and has never driven in more than 106 runs in a year.