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nate
02-24-2010, 03:23 PM
An interesting post (http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/conceding_a_game/) from Tangotiger. His question:


Itís not a bad thing to concede. Indeed, baseball teams are conceding when they send a position player to the mound. Why not just codify it as a rule to have an automatic end to the game?

Put another way: if there WAS a rule to concede, automatically or otherwise, would you want to remove that rule?

I can think of a game vs. the Phillies last year that would fit the bill. Whaddya think?

Eric_the_Red
02-24-2010, 03:24 PM
If a team wanted to concede, let them. If a team I rooted for every did concede, though, I would be irate. In baseball, I've seen too many wild comebacks to ever give up.

Ron Madden
02-24-2010, 03:24 PM
No.

OnBaseMachine
02-24-2010, 03:24 PM
No.

redsmetz
02-24-2010, 03:25 PM
For this game alone, I would say no. It was a nail biter and Oquendo almost won the darn thing. As it was, he took the loss.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.cgi?n1=oquenjo01&t=p&year=1988

mth123
02-24-2010, 03:25 PM
I actually agree with the notion, but since they charge admission and don't just play for their own stats, I think I'd want my money back if that happened.

"It ain't over till its over."

KronoRed
02-24-2010, 03:26 PM
I can only imagine fans getting pissed off from allowing this.

RedsManRick
02-24-2010, 03:26 PM
I can't imagine a team actually doing it. The potential blowback from the public/press would outweigh the gain of avoiding injury from the manager's perspective.

If there were a rule about conceding, I think the only time in which it would be allowed is after team had used all of its available pitching. Of course, that would require a list before the game of pitchers who were not available.

lollipopcurve
02-24-2010, 03:28 PM
Worst idea ever.

TRF
02-24-2010, 03:31 PM
Might as well let teams concede the season too.

The Pirates concede the 2010 season.

MikeS21
02-24-2010, 03:34 PM
Might as well let teams concede the season too.

The Pirates concede the 2010 season.
Not the Pirates. Let the Cards, Cubs, and Astros concede. Then the Reds might have a shot! :p:

UKFlounder
02-24-2010, 03:51 PM
No.

macro
02-24-2010, 03:52 PM
What if the decision were taken out of the hands of the team, and written as mandantory, instead? I'm thinking of the ten-run rule in softball and youth baseball. Teams wouldn't have to face a PR backlash because they wouldn't have a choice.

Very pertinent to this discussion, check out this scoring line from August 21, 1990:

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1990/B08210LAN1990.htm

George Anderson
02-24-2010, 03:55 PM
What if the decision were taken out of the hands of the team, and written as mandantory, instead? I'm thinking of the ten-run rule in softball and youth baseball. Teams wouldn't have to face a PR backlash because they wouldn't have a choice.



http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1990/B08210LAN1990.htm

It would be bad PR.

If the game only went 6 innings, fans would think they got short changed.

Vada Pinson Fan
02-24-2010, 03:56 PM
No. Too much of an impact on what may or could be or could have been from an historical perspective. Keep the game as it's been and get rid of the DH.

GADawg
02-24-2010, 03:59 PM
I didn't even like the "mercy" rule in high school, little league etc...most times it was down 10 runs after 5 innings or some variation of that.

I also hate the practice of sending a position player out there a'la Paul Janish to take a beating. Janish has a great arm and they're very fortunate that he didn't ruin it throwing in such an unusual manner. Also those numbers(not Paul's)overall count toward the stats and at the end of the year could be the difference to the extreme in someone keeping a job.

HokieRed
02-24-2010, 04:24 PM
Never give in.

Wheelhouse
02-24-2010, 04:25 PM
No. But it's already in play: the Reds have been doing it for years.

Unassisted
02-24-2010, 09:00 PM
If Bud Selig gets credit for the idea, I'm all for it. Let that be his legacy to the game.

Also, if Selig owns conceding, every time a team concedes they'll "do a Bud." It'll give an entirely new meaning to that phrase. :D

BCubb2003
02-24-2010, 10:00 PM
If neither basketball nor football teams can concede, down 30 with a minute to go, then baseball which has no clock should not.

Spring~Fields
02-24-2010, 10:12 PM
An interesting post (http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/conceding_a_game/) from Tangotiger. His question:



I can think of a game vs. the Phillies last year that would fit the bill. Whaddya think?

No.

westofyou
02-24-2010, 10:21 PM
When they concede I'd expect them to forfeit their payment for the game.

Yachtzee
02-24-2010, 11:56 PM
No. Barring weather issues, games should always go at least 9 innings. My concern would be that a team who has wrapped up a playoff spot would let a mop-up man or September call-up take beatings and concede the last few games of the season in order to rest their bullpen for the playoffs.

reds1869
02-25-2010, 06:40 AM
No way. It would be damaging to the historical integrity of the game.

Always Red
02-25-2010, 06:48 AM
"Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" ;)

hell no!

That's the great thing, maybe the best thing, about baseball- it's not tied to a clock. One game can last forever, if all the stars align.

reds1869
02-25-2010, 06:59 AM
"Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" ;)

hell no!

That's the great thing, maybe the best thing, about baseball- it's not tied to a clock. One game can last forever, if all the stars align.

I agree. I'll still never forget the comeback from down 7-0 against The Tribe, ending in Dunn's walk off grand slam. One of my fondest memories of any game I've attended.

Blimpie
02-25-2010, 07:45 AM
Concede?

Hell, NFL fans lose their minds when their coaches sit their starters in Week 17.

klw
02-25-2010, 08:45 AM
NO

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CLE/CLE200108050.shtml

TheNext44
02-25-2010, 02:08 PM
I think that if a team does concede, the winning team gets to give everyone on the conceding team atomic wedgies. :cool: