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OnBaseMachine
02-25-2010, 02:29 AM
Breaking Down the Outfielders for 2010
Tom Nichols

Today we look at the outfield position.

Hands on deck: Andrew Means, Alex Oliveras, Tony Brown, Yorman Rodriguez, Cameron Satterwhite, Efrain Contreras, Albert Laboy, Sean Conner.

For various reasons, the outfield position for the Dragons in 2010 is the toughest to predict among all the non-pitcher spots on the field. Several of the outfielders with Sarasota in 2009 (the club one level ahead of the Dragons last year in the Reds farm system) had seasons that could result in a repeat at the same level (Lynchburg has replaced Sarasota on the organization ladder). That could result in a slight back-up of players on assignment day at the end of spring training this year. A bump, bruise, or strain to any of the outfield candidates in the system could change the Dragons picture. Even decisions made at the big league level could have a domino effect down to Dayton. In this preview, it is assumed that two outfielders from the end of the Dragons 2009 season will move up and join a crowded picture in Lynchburg that may include Dave Sappelt, Justin Reed, Denis Phipps, Kyle Day, and possibly even Cody Puckett. The two at the top of the pecking order at the end of '09 in Dayton were Byron Wiley and Josh Fellhauer, so they are not previewed in the 2010 picture. It is conceivable that one of those two could even start the year with the Dragons.

Among the names that do appear on this list, several could become contenders to start 2010 with Lynchburg, particularly Means. Meanwhile, Rodriguez is the wild card. He is by far the most highly-regarded outfield prospect below the Triple-A level in the Reds organization, but at age 17, will the Reds feel he can compete in the Midwest League in April? The answer will come soon enough.

Andrew Means

Andrew Means was a two-sport star at Indiana University. A wide receiver with blazing speed, he was expected to be drafted by an NFL team in 2009, but the call never came, apparently because of concerns over Means' baseball option. Means is one of the best athletes in the Reds organization and he showed promise with the Dragons in 2009, but unfortunately, his season started late and ended early, limiting him to just 53 games.

In his final year of baseball at Indiana University in the spring of 2008, Means led the Big Ten Conference in runs scored and finished third in stolen bases with 33 while batting .357. Meanwhile, he caught 102 passes for 1,272 yards during his college career. The Reds drafted Means in the 11th round of the 2008 draft, but after signing, he appeared in just 22 games at Billings before departing in August to return to Bloomington for his final year of football with the Hoosiers.

Means missed most of spring training in 2009 while conducting workouts for NFL teams and was sometimes clocked at under 4.4 in the 40 yard dash. When the NFL draft came and went in April, Means made a decision to devote himself fully to baseball and reported back to Sarasota, joining the Reds extended spring training team.

Means finally was activated when he joined the Dragons on May 20th, about six weeks into the 2009 season. With his body conditioned for football, Means was an impressive physical specimen, but needed a full off-season to gain the flexibility needed to perform to his potential in baseball.

Still, Means was an impact player for the Dragons. His arrival was part of an immediate improvement for the team, as Means pressured opposing defenses with his ability to run the bases and create havoc with his legs. He amazed fans by beating out infield hits on seemingly routine grounders. Means was also an upgrade for the Dragons defensively.

Means started slowly but raised his batting average to .280 before suffering a wrist injury that he first attempted to play through before undergoing season-ending surgery in July. He finished the year at .262 and was 19 for 19 as a base stealer. Means at 6'1", 214 lbs., has the potential to add power once he gains the flexibility from being in true "baseball shape." Means' age (23) could result in an assignment in Lynchburg, but his lack of pro experience (75 games) could make Dayton his destination again in 2010.

Alex Oliveras

Alex Oliveras will enter his fourth season in the Reds organization in 2010 but will not turn 21 years of age until March 29th. He was drafted by the Reds in the ninth round in 2007 out of the Puerto Rico Baseball Academy and High School. Oliveras is the son of former major league pitcher Francisco Oliveras.

Oliveras has made steady improvement in each of his three professional seasons. After playing in the Gulf Coast League in both 2007 and '08, he advanced to Billings in '09 and then joined the Dragons in late July. In 35 games with Dayton, Oliveras hit .307 with two home runs and 17 runs batted in (140 at-bats). Between Dayton and Billings, Oliveras stole 12 bases in 63 games in 2009 and was caught just three times. He is a high-energy player that will bring real intensity to the dugout and field, a trait always appreciated by any manager over a long season. From our list of the Dragons 2010 outfielder candidates, Oliveras is probably the most likely name to be in Dayton on opening night.

Tony Brown

Tony Brown had a big season with Billings in 2008 but never quite got on track with the Dragons in 2009 and could return to the club this season. Brown led the Billings team in home runs (12) and RBI (47) in just 65 games in 2008 while batting .283 for a Mustangs club that went to the playoffs. But Brown's numbers tailed off in 2009 when he spent most of the year in Dayton. He appeared in 58 games with the Dragons, batting .255 with 4 HR and 29 RBI. Brown had some defensive limitations in '09 that resulted in a role as the club's designated hitter, but he showed some improvement in the outfield over the course of the year when he did see action in left field or right field.

Yorman Rodriguez

Yorman Rodriguez will likely play for the Dragons someday. Whether the 17-year-old sensation will open the 2010 season at Fifth Third Field is the question. He enters the '10 season as the #6 prospect in the Reds organization according to Baseball America. No other outfielder below the Triple-A level is in the top 25.

The Reds signed Rodriguez as a blue chip international free agent in the summer of 2008, awarding him with the largest signing bonus ever given to a Venezuelan player. He came to Dayton for the Reds Futures Game in April of 2009 and had one at-bat in the game before going back to Sarasota for extended spring training. As a 16 year old with the Reds' Gulf Coast League affiliate, he hit .274 without a home run in 22 games. He was promoted to Billings and played in 46 games with the Mustangs, batting .219 with three home runs and 17 runs batted in.

Two things should be noted about Rodriguez. On the one hand, he is considered to be the best athlete in the entire Reds organization with excellent speed, an outstanding arm in the outfield, and tremendous home run potential. On the other hand, he is a raw prospect who will not turn 18 until August and struck out 61 times in 183 at-bats in the Pioneer League last summer. Players with the tools possessed by Rodriguez often improve at a faster rate than the players around them, so they are able to adjust to better competition when their numbers indicate they would struggle. Rodriguez is younger than virtually any high school player who will be drafted in 2010. Is he ready to battle Midwest League pitchers? The Reds will make that decision at the end of March.

Cameron Satterwhite

Satterwhite is an area product who attended high school at Moeller in Cincinnati and played at the University of Cincinnati. He was acquired by the Reds during the off-season after playing independent professional baseball in the Frontier League with Evansville in 2009 when he batted .315 without a home run in 34 games. Satterwhite enjoyed a huge 2008 season at UC, batting .364 and finishing third in the Big East Conference in home runs with 14 and collecting 61 RBI in 59 games (225 at-bats). He was selected 3rd Team All-Big East. But he slumped to just .249 with the Bearcats in the spring of '09 and was not drafted before signing with Evansville. At Moeller, Satterwhite was an Ohio All-State selection as a senior in 2005 and set the school's career RBI record, a rather impressive feat for a team that has previously featured Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Larkin, and Buddy Bell.

Efrain Contreras

Efrain Contreras has spent six years in the Reds organization, four of which with the club's Venezuelan Summer League team. Contreras spent the 2009 season at Billings and hit well at .301 with 2 HR and 14 RBI in 46 games.

Albert Laboy

Albert Laboy was acquired by the Reds as a free agent during the off-season. He did not play in 2009 after being released by the Pirates at the end of spring training. Laboy was originally drafted in the 14th round by Pittsburgh in 2005 out of high school in Florida. His best season came in 2007 when he played at Hickory of the South Atlantic League (same level as the Dragons) and hit .287 in 63 games. He split the 2008 season between Hickory and Lynchburg (now the Reds affiliate) and hit a combined .224 with 7 HR in 97 games. As a high school player, Laboy once collected hits in 15 consecutive at-bats, the fourth highest total nationally in recorded history.

Sean Conner

Sean Conner was signed by the Reds after being selected in the 10th round of the 2008 draft out of Palm Beach Community College. At Billings in 2009, Conner hit .237 with 6 HR and 31 RBI in 64 games. He will turn 23 in July and the Reds may want to see him perform in a full-season league this season.

2009 Dragons Outfielders

Byron Wiley: Expected to play at Single-A Lynchburg in 2010.
Josh Fellhauer: Expected to play at Single-A Lynchburg in 2010.
Alex Oliveras: Expected to play for the Dragons in 2010. Andrew Means: Will battle for a job with Lynchburg or Dayton in 2010.
Tony Brown: Will battle for a job with Lynchburg or Dayton in 2010.
Dave Sappelt: Promoted prior to end of 2009; will battle for a job with Double-A Carolina or play with Lynchburg in 2010.
Kyle Day: Promoted prior to end of 2009; will battle for a job with Double-A Carolina or play with Lynchburg in 2010.
Stephen Chapman: Promoted prior to end of 2009 and finished season with Double-A Carolina; will battle for a job with Carolina in 2010.
Tyler Stovall: Released following 2009 season.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100224&content_id=8131610&vkey=news_t459&fext=.jsp&sid=t459

icehole3
02-25-2010, 04:40 AM
I would let Yorman stay at Billings and bring him to Dayton for a cup of coffee, then next year accelerate his development

OnBaseMachine
02-25-2010, 08:57 PM
I agree icehole. I hope the Reds start Yorman in Billings. He's only 17 years old, so there's no need to rush him. He could spend the next two seasons in Billings and still be the same age as Jay Bruce was when he debuted in Dayton (age 19). You see a lot of organizations rush their big International signings and stunt their growth. I'm hoping the Reds are patient with kids like Duran, Rodriguez, and Valor, and allow them to develop at their own pace. I'd start Yorman in Billings, and if he's tearing the league up at midseason then I'd send him to Dayton. But starting him there could do more harm than good, IMO.

redsof72
02-25-2010, 09:53 PM
I don't know if they will start him in Dayton or Billings, but my prediction is that if he starts in Dayton, he will end the year in Billings, and if he starts in extended, he will end the year in Dayton.

Edd Roush
02-25-2010, 10:20 PM
I can't believe I haven't heard about Cameron Satterwhite being in the Reds' farm system. He was a great player at Moeller when I went there and he is a great guy. I will be really pulling for him to be a starting outfielder with Means and Yorman.

redsof72
03-17-2010, 08:55 PM
It now appears that Yorman is going to be the opening day center fielder in Dayton. I hope he can play well enough early to keep his confidence up. Really really talented, but really really raw. Probably will struggle against the "thumbers" in the Midwest League (soft-tossers with no prospect value but still pitch effectively in A-ball because they can command their breaking ball). Will be interesting to watch.

lollipopcurve
03-18-2010, 10:23 AM
It now appears that Yorman is going to be the opening day center fielder in Dayton.

Seems risky, but we'll see.

72, any idea where they may be angling for Henry Rodriguez to go? He's another Venezuelan, so maybe could serve as support for Yorman.

Also, I have to think the team has some confidence in Yorman's makeup if they're going to push him to Dayton (where it's likely he'll struggle with the stick). We haven't had much insight into what Yorman's like, but I seem to recall the suggestion that he's a pretty confident kid. 72, anything to that, so far as you know?

redsof72
03-18-2010, 11:10 AM
I think Henry Rodriguez is going to get the first shot at being the starting second baseman in Dayton. Not sure yet about Yorman's makeup.

lollipopcurve
03-18-2010, 11:49 AM
thanks 72. If YRod is in Dayton, I hope HRod is too. Could be a pretty interesting squad this year -- my guess is Gregorius is the SS.

OnBaseMachine
03-18-2010, 12:14 PM
I'm not a big fan of starting Yorman in Dayton. As tempting as it is to start him there, I'd rather they take it slow and start him in Billings. If he starts off hot, they could always promote him to Dayton after a month or so. He's still only 17 years old so there's really no need to rush him.

JayBruceFan
03-18-2010, 01:42 PM
Personally, I can't wait to see what Andrew Means can do while playing a full season

That guy is a beast

lollipopcurve
03-18-2010, 01:45 PM
Personally, I can't wait to see what Andrew Means can do while playing a full season

Agreed. Interesting player.

membengal
03-18-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm not a big fan of starting Yorman in Dayton. As tempting as it is to start him there, I'd rather they take it slow and start him in Dayton. If he starts off hot, they could always promote him to Dayton after a month or so. He's still only 17 years old so there's really no need to rush him.

OBM, you lost me. Is this a Being John Malkovich thing?

OnBaseMachine
03-18-2010, 03:19 PM
OBM, you lost me. Is this a Being John Malkovich thing?

Oops. I meant to say they should start him in Billings. I fixed it.

redsof72
03-18-2010, 03:23 PM
If Means starts the year in Dayton, and I think he will, he should be the Dragons best player.

dougdirt
03-18-2010, 03:27 PM
If Means starts the year in Dayton, and I think he will, he should be the Dragons best player.
I am not sure of that. I think he starts there, but unless he fixes his plate discipline I wouldn't put him up there yet. Alex Oliveras is in the same boat. Given the defensive ability of Gregorius, I think he would probably be my pick going into the season.

NorrisHopper30
03-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Didn't realize the Reds picked up Satterwhite (Moeller/UC)...anyone have any thoughts on him?

redsof72
03-18-2010, 04:17 PM
Means: Those who have seen him out in spring training this year say he is in terrific shape and really playing well. Means was not a guy last year who swung at a lot of bad pitches. True, he did not walk a lot. Part of that was because he bunted so much to try to take advantage of his great speed, so he was not going deep into the count. When he got into two-strike situations, he was not going to bunt and needs to improve in terms of making contact and keeping the at-bat alive.

Satterwhite: More of an organizational guy right now. Extended spring or Dayton back-up outfielder. He probably will get a chance, but he might have to be patient.

Scrap Irony
03-18-2010, 07:49 PM
As bad as Billings was last season, Dayton could be interesting, assuming Yorman, HRod, Gregorious, and Means all go to Low A. It'll be interesting not only to see the talent, but where it bats. Three of those guys look like top of the order hitters-- at least.

You might have four leadoff hitters in a row for Dayton.

redsof72
03-19-2010, 09:30 AM
Means would hit leadoff. Oliveras second probably. They would protect Yorman somewhere in the order, maybe in the six or seven spot.

RedLegsToday
03-19-2010, 12:51 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Yorman this spring, as far as how he looks? The Reds are being very aggressive starting him in Dayton.

dougdirt
03-19-2010, 04:30 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Yorman this spring, as far as how he looks? The Reds are being very aggressive starting him in Dayton.

They have only played 2 games so far on the minor league side of things, so anything we have heard would have had to have come on workout type stuff.

OnBaseMachine
03-19-2010, 08:15 PM
Has anyone heard anything about Yorman this spring, as far as how he looks? The Reds are being very aggressive starting him in Dayton.

I asked Corey Brinn about Yorman and Duran today on twitter. His response:

Reds & WVU are a great combination...Yorman looks good early on...not seen as much of Duran just yet but he looks tall!!

http://twitter.com/coreybrinn

redsof72
03-24-2010, 09:08 AM
For unknown reasons, I seem to have lost my ability to start new threads in this section.

Anyway, had a good chat with a scout who has been around the Single-A teams the last few days. While Yorman has been playing with the group that is headed to Dayton (primarily with Means and Oliveras), he thinks it has become clear that he simply is not going to be ready for that level and the Reds will end up starting him in extended. From a few sources, Yorman has a tendency to get down on himself and will take that frustration into the next at-bat. That would be a bad combination over a long season for a player that would probably see his share of struggles at that level. The scout said that Yorman looks like a future Midwest League MVP, but in 2012.

The Lynchburg outfield picture is really crowded right now. They have six guys there. Look for someone that we expected to move up all winter to wind up back in Dayton unless there is an injury.

Fellhauer has been on fire. Word is that he has had at least two hits in every game and is hitting well over .500 Not that this means a tremendous amount. Last spring, the two best players in the Dayton camp, straight from the coaches mouths, were Humberto Sosa and Leonardo Astorga. Astorga gave up 33 runs in 18.2 innings once the bell rang. Sosa struggled, went to Billings, came back to Dayton, and got released (as did Astorga). That being said, Fellhauer might have been the guy that got squeezed back to Dayton, but I would have to say that he has made it impossible for them to make that move.

lollipopcurve
03-24-2010, 09:38 AM
For unknown reasons, I seem to have lost my ability to start new threads in this section.

Anyway, had a good chat with a scout who has been around the Single-A teams the last few days. While Yorman has been playing with the group that is headed to Dayton (primarily with Means and Oliveras), he thinks it has become clear that he simply is not going to be ready for that level and the Reds will end up starting him in extended. From a few sources, Yorman has a tendency to get down on himself and will take that frustration into the next at-bat. That would be a bad combination over a long season for a player that would probably see his share of struggles at that level. The scout said that Yorman looks like a future Midwest League MVP, but in 2012.

The Lynchburg outfield picture is really crowded right now. They have six guys there. Look for someone that we expected to move up all winter to wind up back in Dayton unless there is an injury.

Fellhauer has been on fire. Word is that he has had at least two hits in every game and is hitting well over .500 Not that this means a tremendous amount. Last spring, the two best players in the Dayton camp, straight from the coaches mouths, were Humberto Sosa and Leonardo Astorga. Astorga gave up 33 runs in 18.2 innings once the bell rang. Sosa struggled, went to Billings, came back to Dayton, and got released (as did Astorga). That being said, Fellhauer might have been the guy that got squeezed back to Dayton, but I would have to say that he has made it impossible for them to make that move.

Interesting stuff, as always, 72. Seems like a good idea to be cautious with Yorman. As a 17 year old from Venezuela, a lot can go wrong as he transitions to life in the US -- compounding that with struggles on the diamond and you have a recipe for a failed investment. In my opinion, they should be sure to get him some baseball success this summer.

You mention in another post that Wiley may end up back in Dayton. Seems like a waste to me. The guy's bat needs to be challenged. Any chance they push Sappelt to AA, creating room in Lynchburg for Wiley?

redsof72
03-24-2010, 10:01 AM
There is still 10 days until rosters are set and things can change. Sappelt would probably be the first guy up. That would leave Reed, Fellhauer, and Wiley starting in Lynchburg. Word is that Sappelt has really struggled this spring at the plate. He was not a particularly strong offensive player in Dayton in 2009 at .269 with a .322 on-base percentage. To go to Double-A and be productive there would be a pretty big jump in one calendar year. They need Sappelt to be able to play well in Double-A, not just fill a spot.

Keep in mind...it is not always about what is best for any given player. They simply can't finish with the 29th best organizational record again in 2010. You can't have your players growing up in that kind of losing culture. They have to develop that killer instinct that allows you to pull out games in the late innings and you can't develop that when you are 58-92 at the end of the season. Plus, that makes it hard to keep affiliates happy and leads to other problems. You've got two PDCs expiring at the end of this season.

They seem to feel that it is better to have a guy getting 100 at-bats a month at a repeat level than getting 50 at-bats a month (and taking 50 away from someone else) at the next level up. Can't really argue with that.

lollipopcurve
03-24-2010, 10:07 AM
There is still 10 days until rosters are set and things can change. Sappelt would probably be the first guy up. That would leave Reed, Fellhauer, and Wiley starting in Lynchburg. Word is that Sappelt has really struggled this spring at the plate. He was not a particularly strong offensive player in Dayton in 2009 at .269 with a .322 on-base percentage. To go to Double-A and be productive there would be a pretty big jump in one calendar year. They need Sappelt to be able to play well in Double-A, not just fill a spot.

Keep in mind...it is not always about what is best for any given player. They simply can't finish with the 29th best organizational record again in 2010. You can't have your players growing up in that kind of losing culture. They have to develop that killer instinct that allows you to pull out games in the late innings and you can't develop that when you are 58-92 at the end of the season. Plus, that makes it hard to keep affiliates happy and leads to other problems. You've got two PDCs expiring at the end of this season.

They seem to feel that it is better to have a guy getting 100 at-bats a month at a repeat level than getting 50 at-bats a month (and taking 50 away from someone else) at the next level up. Can't really argue with that.

Makes solid sense. If Wiley is the odd guy out, as you say, it indicates to me that the organization is putting a premium on defense. I seem to recall you saying he leaves a lot to be desired as on OF.

redsof72
03-24-2010, 10:52 AM
Wiley is below average defensively. Unless he improves his arm strength, I think he is more of a DH. Possibly the weakest arm in the league among outfielders in 2009. Range in the outfield: I would say he won't kill you but he is not going to do anything to add to his value as a player.

He has a lot of potential as a hitter, but he is going to have to REALLY hit to earn his way. You have to look at the whole picture. I saw this guy Josh Anderson with the Reds on TV earlier in the spring. Didn't know too much about him except that he looks like a 4A player on paper. In about 15 minutes, I saw him make three plays in the outfield that impacted the game. One was a catch. The other two were cutting off balls in the alley that kept singles from turning into doubles. With most outfielders, none of those three plays get made. My thoughts: "Oh, so that's why they brought this Anderson to camp." You can call him up and play him and even if he doesn't hit, he is still going to have value and the manager can trust that if he plays him, the guy isn't going to screw up a game with a mistake in the field that leads to a big inning. Wiley isn't going to make any of those plays, so he is going to have to really hit to make up for it.

I am not sure any of that has anything to do with a possible bump back to Dayton. It is just a numbers game. You have three everyday spots in Lynchburg. Reed is a year ahead in the pecking order. Sappelt is not going back to Dayton. Fellhauer is an everyday player. Wiley is a good enough player that you want him playing everyday, even if it's in Dayton to start the year.

mace
03-24-2010, 11:22 AM
If Wiley's problem is his arm, and to a lesser extent his speed, it seems that first base would be an obvious solution. That's certainly not a position at which the Reds are stacked in the minor leagues.

lollipopcurve
03-24-2010, 11:35 AM
He has a lot of potential as a hitter, but he is going to have to REALLY hit to earn his way. You have to look at the whole picture. I saw this guy Josh Anderson with the Reds on TV earlier in the spring. Didn't know too much about him except that he looks like a 4A player on paper. In about 15 minutes, I saw him make three plays in the outfield that impacted the game. One was a catch. The other two were cutting off balls in the alley that kept singles from turning into doubles. With most outfielders, none of those three plays get made. My thoughts: "Oh, so that's why they brought this Anderson to camp." You can call him up and play him and even if he doesn't hit, he is still going to have value and the manager can trust that if he plays him, the guy isn't going to screw up a game with a mistake in the field that leads to a big inning. Wiley isn't going to make any of those plays, so he is going to have to really hit to make up for it.

Agreed on Anderson. A guy who can play defense like that and steal bases (which Anderson can do) can be useful as a 5th OF at the major league level.


I am not sure any of that has anything to do with a possible bump back to Dayton. It is just a numbers game. You have three everyday spots in Lynchburg. Reed is a year ahead in the pecking order. Sappelt is not going back to Dayton. Fellhauer is an everyday player. Wiley is a good enough player that you want him playing everyday, even if it's in Dayton to start the year.

Sappelt, Reed and Fellhauer are all similar players. Smaller OFs with speed and occasional pop. Having them all in the same OF would be an excellent gauge of their talent relative to one another.

redsof72
03-24-2010, 02:35 PM
Here is how I would distinguish those three: Reed is the best athlete of the three and one of the best in the entire organization, but he has struggled with strikeouts. Reed and Sappelt both have spectacular range in the outfield (can be electrifying). I might give a slight edge to Sappelt, though it is close. Sappelt has by far the weakest arm of the three and it probably would limit him to left field unless he improves it by a bunch. Fellhauer has the strongest. Both Reed and Sappelt are faster than Fellhauer. Fellhauer's speed is a bit overrated. He has average speed. Fellhauer is the most polished and has the best baseball instincts and while he is not as fast as the others, he is the best base runner. Fellhauer has no clear weakness; he has average tools and is a smart, hard-nosed player. Reed and Sappelt have better tools but have some holes. Sappelt had some huge baserunning blunders in 2009.

SirFelixCat
03-28-2010, 07:46 PM
Sappelt still has the best intro I've heard about yet, "2/3's of the Earth is covered by water, the other 1/3 by me!" :)

I'm definitely pulling for the kid to keep improving on his solid season last year.

mth123
03-28-2010, 08:16 PM
Sappelt still has the best intro I've heard about yet, "2/3's of the Earth is covered by water, the other 1/3 by me!" :)

I'm definitely pulling for the kid to keep improving on his solid season last year.

It was good in the 70's when they said it about Garry Maddox. I'm guessing it was said about some one before him too.

redsof72
03-30-2010, 02:09 PM
It looks as though they made a decision not to keep Laboy in Lynchburg as a back-up outfielder. He was released. That likely means Wiley remains with Lynchburg with four players sharing three spots (Sappelt, Fellhauer, Reed, Wiley) with Day as the back-up and DH.

redsof72
03-31-2010, 06:29 PM
Tony Brown released.

redsof72
04-02-2010, 11:11 PM
Looks like Oliveras, Means, and Wiley. Means, by all reports, looks like one of the most improved players in the organization.

Folks rave about Yorman. Just not quite ready for full-season play.

OnBaseMachine
04-02-2010, 11:33 PM
Looks like Oliveras, Means, and Wiley. Means, by all reports, looks like one of the most improved players in the organization.

Folks rave about Yorman. Just not quite ready for full-season play.

Very good decision by the Reds to start him in Billings. As tempting as it is to start him in Dayton, it's better for his development to start him in Billings, IMO. He's still very young and raw and probably not quite ready to face advanced 20-22 year old pitchers. Nice job by the Reds.

lollipopcurve
04-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Excited about Means. I think there may be a diamond in the rough among the Fellhauer-Wiley-Sappelt-Means group, somebody who may emerge in the couple years as a guy who can play regularly in the bigs. Hopefully the competition among them produces that diamond.

redsof72
04-03-2010, 10:33 AM
Everyone is talking about Means. He is a Drew Stubbs type player in some ways. Lead-off type hitter but may have to hit third in the Dayton lineup. Blazing speed, lots of infield hits, will bunt a lot and steal bases. Anxious to see if conditioning brings more flexibility and results in power from 215 pound, solidly built frame.

OnBaseMachine
04-03-2010, 11:42 AM
I overlooked the fact that Byron Wiley is starting the season in Dayton again. Why? He has nothing left to prove in Dayton and he's already 23 years old. I would've started him in Lynchburg.

dougdirt
04-03-2010, 12:51 PM
I overlooked the fact that Byron Wiley is starting the season in Dayton again. Why? He has nothing left to prove in Dayton and he's already 23 years old. I would've started him in Lynchburg.

Likely a victim of a numbers game, but I agree.... its a shame that despite an .860 OPS he has to repeat the level at the start of the year. At the same time, its good to think about, that he couldn't advance despite that because he is blocked. Shows some good depth.