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Mario-Rijo
03-09-2010, 06:29 AM
I have been watching the MLB 30 in 30 series and they have a feature where they compile the best homegrown lineup/team for each club. I wonder if those here can compile the team that they will likely put together and what is you opinion on what that team would be? They do one guy at each position who came up thru our minor leagues and had some degree of significant time with the major league club, one starter and one closer.


My guess as to what that team might look like (and I am not the best historian).

C - Bench
1B - Perez
2B - McPhee
SS - Larkin
3B - Rose
LF - Pinson
CF - Davis
RF - Robinson

Starter - Gullet
Closer - Graves


My team

C - Bench
1B - Klu
2B - Rose
SS - Larkin
3B - Perez
LF - Pinson
CF - Davis
RF - Robinson

Starter - Soto
Closer - Carroll

Dan
03-09-2010, 07:50 AM
Graves was acquired in trade with the Indians. Go with Dibble if you want a home-grown closer. Though I expect Rawley Eastwick might be a good choice too. Or Trevor Hoffman if you want to include players that the Reds developed but never actually played for them.

C - Bench
1b - Klu
2b - Rose
SS - Larkin
3b - Robinson
LF - Rose
CF - Roush
RF - Davis

SP - Maloney
RP - Dibble

Deepred05
03-09-2010, 10:40 AM
NM

OnBaseMachine
03-09-2010, 10:41 AM
NM

Morgan wasn't homegrown. He was acquired from the Astros.

TRF
03-09-2010, 10:45 AM
C Bench
1B Votto
2B Rose
SS Larkin
3B Frazier
RF Bruce
CF Heisey
LF Francisco

SP Chapman
CL Del Rosario

:)

redsmetz
03-09-2010, 11:01 AM
I agree that either Maloney or Soto could be easily substituted for Gullett. And that's taking nothing away from Gullett. It's scary to think of what Maloney & Soto would have done pitching for the BRM in their primes.

bucksfan2
03-09-2010, 11:22 AM
1b Perez
2b Rose
SS Larkin
3B Robinson
LF Pinson
CF Roush
RF Bruce

SP Soto
CL Dibble

Marc D
03-09-2010, 11:45 AM
I never knew Frank Robinson played 3B?

Mainspark
03-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Reliever Clay "The Hawk" Carroll wasn't homegrown. Came from the Braves in a mid-season 1968 trade that also involved shortstop Woody Woodward (to the Reds) and pitcher Milt Pappas (to the Braves).

RedsBaron
03-09-2010, 12:00 PM
I never knew Frank Robinson played 3B?

Robinson played 11 games at third in 1958, one game at third in 1960 and one game at third in 1961. That's it--13 career games at third. He wasn't a third baseman.
Johnny Bench was more of a third baseman than Robby was, as Bench played 195 games at the position, albeit not very well.

HokieRed
03-09-2010, 12:01 PM
SP has to be Maloney, IMHO.

RedsBaron
03-09-2010, 12:09 PM
Edd Roush wasn't home grown. He made his major league debut with the White Sox in 1912. He then played in the Federal League, which is sometimes considered to have been a major league, in 1914 and 1915 for the Indianapolis Hoosiers and the Newark Pepper, before going to the New York Giants in 1916. He came to the Reds in a trade with the Giants in which the Reds also re-acquired Christy Mathewson, a mere 372 pitching wins after they had traded Christy away.

westofyou
03-09-2010, 12:11 PM
Roush wasn't homegrown, he came over in the Matty trade

1b-Perez
2b-McPhee
SS-Larkin
3b-Rose
LF-Robby
RF-Pinson
CF-Davis
C-Bench

SP-Maloney-Soto-Hahn-Gullett
RP-Sulliven-Dibble

Marc D
03-09-2010, 12:21 PM
Robinson played 11 games at third in 1958, one game at third in 1960 and one game at third in 1961. That's it--13 career games at third. He wasn't a third baseman.


That's what I thought.

My .02

C-Bench
1B-Perez
2B-Bid McPhee (anyone who can do it without a glove is ok in my book)
3B-Rose
SS-Larkin
LF-Robinson
CF-Davis
RF-Wally Post

SP-Soto
RP-Granger

Left some great players off but I'd roll with that team. Good luck finding a soft spot in that lineup.

RedsBaron
03-09-2010, 12:29 PM
Wayne Granger was developed by the Cardinals, with whom he played in his rookie season in 1968. The Reds acquired Granger after 1968 along with Bobby Tolan for Vada Pinson, in one of Bob Howsam's better trades.

RedsBaron
03-09-2010, 12:31 PM
Roush wasn't homegrown, he came over in the Matty trade

1b-Perez
2b-McPhee
SS-Larkin
3b-Rose
LF-Robby
RF-Pinson
CF-Davis
C-Bench

SP-Maloney-Soto-Hahn-Gullett
RP-Sulliven-Dibble


No disagreements here with those picks---I concur.

OnBaseMachine
03-09-2010, 12:38 PM
No disagreements here with those picks---I concur.

I agree. My list would look very similar to woy's.

Roy Tucker
03-09-2010, 12:43 PM
I thought this list was going to be Reds that are a.) from Cincinnati and b.) came up through the farm system.

savafan
03-09-2010, 12:52 PM
I thought this list was going to be Reds that are a.) from Cincinnati and b.) came up through the farm system.

That's what I thought as well. It'd be a much more difficult list to construct.

RichRed
03-09-2010, 02:07 PM
That's what I thought as well. It'd be a much more difficult list to construct.

We'd at least have a shell of a team:

Pete Rose
Barry Larkin
Ron Oester
Tom Hume
Jeff Russell
Larry Luebbers

And the immortal Skeeter Barnes

westofyou
03-09-2010, 02:13 PM
We'd at least have a shell of a team:

Pete Rose
Barry Larkin
Ron Oester
Tom Hume
Jeff Russell
Larry Luebbers

And the immortal Skeeter Barnes

Miller Huggins, John Reilly, Ethan Allen, Buck Ewing, Buddy Bell

RichRed
03-09-2010, 02:45 PM
Miller Huggins, John Reilly, Ethan Allen, Buck Ewing, Buddy Bell

But Buddy came up through the Indians' system, correct?

westofyou
03-09-2010, 02:48 PM
But Buddy came up through the Indians' system, correct?

Yeah, but if you made a team of Cincinnati guys who played for the Reds:

1b-Reilly
2b-Huggins
SS-larkin
3b-Bell
UT- Oester
C- Ewing
LF-Rose
CF-Allen
Rf-??

Ron Madden
03-09-2010, 02:49 PM
Yeah, but if you made a team of Cincinnati guys who played for the Reds:

1b-Reilly
2b-Huggins
SS-larkin
3b-Bell
UT- Oester
C- Ewing
LF-Rose
CF-Allen
Rf-??

Dave Parker, David Justice

Ron Madden
03-09-2010, 03:15 PM
Yeah, but if you made a team of Cincinnati guys who played for the Reds:1b-Reilly
2b-Huggins
SS-larkin
3b-Bell
UT- Oester
C- Ewing
LF-Rose
CF-Allen
Rf-??

Sorry about my last post David Justice never played for the Reds. Brain cramp.

Mario-Rijo
03-09-2010, 04:35 PM
AH crap I forgot about Graves coming from the Indians and I meant for mine to be Will MceNany, not Carroll. But after further thought I think i'll just go Dibble on both counts. Although we also had these guys to choose from the pen as well who might make the list.

Elmer Riddle
Tom Hume
Rawly Eastwick

Big Klu
03-09-2010, 07:10 PM
Does Hamilton count as being in the greater Cincinnati area? Because we are all forgetting Joe Nuxhall.

AtomicDumpling
03-09-2010, 08:37 PM
Yeah, but if you made a team of Cincinnati guys who played for the Reds:

1b-Reilly
2b-Huggins
SS-larkin
3b-Bell
UT- Oester
C- Ewing
LF-Rose
CF-Allen
Rf-??

Toss Junior Griffey in the outfield too.

westofyou
03-09-2010, 08:40 PM
Toss Junior Griffey in the outfield too.
Duh... a monumental miss on my part.

GADawg
03-09-2010, 09:38 PM
can't believe i didn't see a Dunn vote. I never saw Pinson play and I'm sure he was a better defender but his 17 year numbers are already dwarfed by Dunn's 8 or whatever years.

Ron Madden
03-10-2010, 02:28 AM
Toss Junior Griffey in the outfield too.

I was thinking so much about retired players, Junior Griffey completely slipped my mind.


I deserve a swift kick in the butt. :redface:

Mario-Rijo
03-10-2010, 03:38 AM
Jr Griffey didn't come thru the system. :confused: Ah, NM!

Dunn over Pinson, to each his own.

Nuxhall was a consideration as the starter for me but I thought Maloney/Gullet/Soto were more deserving. I put Nuxie just ahead of Browning as our 4th. I was torn between Maloney and Soto and still not sure I chose the right one but I feel good about it. I think what Soto did (W-L wise) with almost no help was the tie-breaker for me.