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Chip R
03-11-2010, 02:35 PM
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membengal
03-15-2010, 05:10 PM
Three up three down for the A's in the first against Mike Lincoln.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:11 PM
Ben Sheets pitching for the A's.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:16 PM
I cannot do pbp right now, and won't be able to for a bit. Briefly, Dickerson on with a ground rule double on a ball to the track in LF that the A's outfielder misplayed and fell over trying to get to. Cabrera grounded back to mound off of Sheets' glove, bounced away, safe at first. Both players awarded hits.

Votto doubled into the left-center gap to drive home 1. Runners at 2nd and 3rd. Rolen up. Anyone listening on MLB audio that can pick it up, have at it, otherwise all I can really do is give summaries.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:19 PM
Rolen walks to load bases.

Gomes works count full and lines a hit off of Kouzmanoff's glove at 3b, two runs score, gomes to second with a double.

3-0 Reds lead, no outs still, top of first.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:22 PM
Nix singles home two more. 5-0 game, still no outs.

Juan Francisco up.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 05:24 PM
I can help out but it will be an inning slow, im using mlb pitch by pitch, i dont have mlb radio

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:25 PM
Francisco singles, first and second.

Then Miles grounds up middle, but E-4 on Mark Ellis, negating a potential double play. Run scores, 6-0.

Then Wilkin Castillo doubles up the gap, 8-0 Reds lead. Still no one out.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:25 PM
Chris Dickerson back up for second time.

TRF
03-15-2010, 05:27 PM
ouch ouch ouch.

I'm sure Ben Sheets is better than this, but ouch.

MLB.com's scoreboard has Francisco listed as DH. I thought he was playing LF?

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:27 PM
Dickerson homers. 10-0 Reds. Still no outs.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:27 PM
ouch ouch ouch.

I'm sure Ben Sheets is better than this, but ouch.

MLB.com's scoreboard has Francisco listed as DH. I thought he was playing LF?

LF tomorrow. DH today.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:28 PM
A's announcers are laughing over the absurdity. "Seen any good movies lately?" Kinda funny.

Sheets is done for the day. I guess he "got his work in".

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:30 PM
A Hernandez of some sort or another in to pick up the pieces.

Cabrera grounds out to SS to a rousing sarcastic cheer from the throng.

TRF
03-15-2010, 05:30 PM
Remember when Dickerson said "Guess I'll have to hit .450 this spring"?

Well, he's over .300 now. with power.

TRF
03-15-2010, 05:31 PM
LF tomorrow. DH today.

gotcha. must have read that wrong.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:32 PM
Votto grounds out behind the bag. Two down.

A's announcers: "At least Sheets can beat the traffic back to Phoenix..."

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:33 PM
Rolen out, the Reds inning ends.

10-0 Reds after one.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:34 PM
Remember when Dickerson said "Guess I'll have to hit .450 this spring"?

Well, he's over .300 now. with power.

Yup. Putting pressure on Dusty, which is what he has to do. Deeds beat words, every time.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 05:34 PM
Remember when Dickerson said "Guess I'll have to hit .450 this spring"?

Well, he's over .300 now. with power.

nothing like good healthy competition

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:35 PM
Is anyone here available for pbp if they could hear the game? Because, if so, let me know and I will PM you some potentially helpful information, if you get my drift...

redsmetz
03-15-2010, 05:37 PM
Yup. Putting pressure on Dusty, which is what he has to do. Deeds beat words, every time.

I want every player to make decisions hard. I think Francisco's doing the same thing. These are good problems to have, no? Wow, what an inning.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 05:38 PM
Dickerson at .368 right now

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:38 PM
Lincoln's perfect game is still intact, now six up and six down.

10-0 Reds middle of two.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:43 PM
Gomes, Nix and Francisco retired in short order. This "Hernandez" that they brought in for Sheets, has brought competence back to the Oakland mound.

10-0 Reds after 2.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:47 PM
Perfect game broken up on a double by Daric Barton, then a K of the next hitter. Adam Rosales now up for Oakland.

klw
03-15-2010, 05:48 PM
Gomes, Nix and Francisco retired in short order. This "Hernandez" that they brought in for Sheets, has brought competence back to the Oakland mound.

10-0 Reds after 2.

Well going off of the pbp it looks like there was 1 error negating a potential dp and three other balls that went off gloves or misjudged that were all called hits. Hard on the pitcher when you give the other team 8 outs in an inning.

TRF
03-15-2010, 05:48 PM
Dickerson so far this Spring .363 .400 .684

a handy baseball stats calculator http://ellerbruch.nmu.edu/classes/CS101W05/CS101students/SanfordM/P7/P7.html

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:49 PM
KLW, true enough. I am listening to it on mlb audio, so all I can do is interpret what I am hearing, and was simply trying to inject some levity into the recitation.

Rosales singled into right field. Two on, one out.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:50 PM
Next hitter singles, A's on the board. Two on, one out. 10-1 Reds lead.

Sea Ray
03-15-2010, 05:50 PM
I know it's not even St Patricks Day, but I was amazed that Oakland gave Sheets $10mill. He's 2nd only to Eric Chavez as the highest paid player on that team. The A's are really taking a chance on that guy...

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:52 PM
Ellis flies out to short RF, no one can move on the bases. Two on, two out.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:53 PM
Kurt Suzuki doubles home two, 10-3 game.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:54 PM
Kouzmanoff singles up the middle, 10-4 game.

For the record, Aroldis Chapman has not been treated thusly in his outings...nor has Mike Leake. Or Travis Wood for that matter.

membengal
03-15-2010, 05:56 PM
Dusty, looking to protect the lead, has Cordero up and warming.

(please know that I am kidding---about protecting the lead, but Cordero IS warming up)

Gomes catch hard hit ball in LF. End of half inning.

10-4 middle of 3.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:01 PM
Jason Jennings now on for Oakland. Reds with two quick outs, now Chris Dickerson up.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:01 PM
thus endeth the Lincoln as a starter experiment.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Dickerson fiery hot, singles back through the box. Dickerson is a triple away from the cycle.

REDblooded
03-15-2010, 06:02 PM
thus endeth the Lincoln as a starter experiment.

Really wish that said "thus endeth the Lincoln as a Red experiment"

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:02 PM
thus endeth the Lincoln as a starter experiment.

Let's hope. Please, let's all hope.

Hoosier Red
03-15-2010, 06:03 PM
Kouzmanoff singles up the middle, 10-4 game.

For the record, Aroldis Chapman has not been treated thusly in his outings...nor has Mike Leake. Or Travis Wood for that matter.

When it was 10-0, I was just thinking to myself "ya know if Lincoln throws three scoreless this game, it probably moves him back to the front of the que."

I tend to agree with Redleg Nation, the spot is Maloney's to lose and Chapman is still a longshot.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Dickerson fiery hot, singles back through the box. Dickerson is a triple away from the cycle.

Dickerson now at .400 .428 .700

yes, i will count every one of his AB's. I hope he gets two more today, but a 3-3 day is great and he got his AB's in.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:04 PM
Cabrera pops out.

End of 3, 10-4 Reds lead.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:07 PM
When it was 10-0, I was just thinking to myself "ya know if Lincoln throws three scoreless this game, it probably moves him back to the front of the que."

I tend to agree with Redleg Nation, the spot is Maloney's to lose and Chapman is still a longshot.

Maloney has been a bit hittable himself. And still a bit off in terms of his control.

Just sayin'.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:09 PM
Coco in game.

reds44
03-15-2010, 06:11 PM
Stuff that needs to happen:
Dickerson playing everyday against RHP
Lincoln cut

reds44
03-15-2010, 06:12 PM
When it was 10-0, I was just thinking to myself "ya know if Lincoln throws three scoreless this game, it probably moves him back to the front of the que."

I tend to agree with Redleg Nation, the spot is Maloney's to lose and Chapman is still a longshot.
Chapman is only a long shot because of his contract.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:12 PM
Cust singles to start inning off of Coco. Next guy Ks. One down, one on.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:14 PM
Pop up to short RF retires next hitter. Two down, one on.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 06:14 PM
Stuff that needs to happen:
Dickerson playing everyday against RHP
Lincoln cut

which one happens first, dusty has Tavares type love for Lincoln right now

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:15 PM
Infield hit puts runners on first and second with two down.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:15 PM
The infield hit was by Rosales. A's announcers commenting on how hard he ran down the line...

Grounder back to Coco ends the inning.

10-4 middle of the fourth, Reds lead.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:18 PM
Votto draws a four pitch walk from Jennings to start the home fourth.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:21 PM
Gomes singles. Missed what happened to Rolen, he made an out of some sort or another.

Laynce Nix up. Two on, one out.

Hoosier Red
03-15-2010, 06:21 PM
which one happens first, dusty has Tavares type love for Lincoln right now

Just curious why you think this? Dusty moved him out of the bullpen and they're obviously trying to find a role for him which isn't a bad idea when you have $2 million tied into him. Might as well find out if he absolutely won't be able to help you before you cut him.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 06:22 PM
Lincoln 11.37 era
Sheets 31.15

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:22 PM
Nix grounds out, runners move up, 2nd and 3rd, two outs, Juan Francisco up.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 06:23 PM
Just curious why you think this? Dusty moved him out of the bullpen and they're obviously trying to find a role for him which isn't a bad idea when you have $2 million tied into him. Might as well find out if he absolutely won't be able to help you before you cut him.

He's terrible

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:25 PM
Francisco Ks. 10-4 Reds lead after four.

Spring~Fields
03-15-2010, 06:27 PM
Dickerson so far this Spring .363 .400 .684



What is that, about a .400 OBP, .684 SLG and .1084 OPS ?

I am real happy for him. Anyone esle doing that well for the Reds, even though "spring stats" don't mean anything to the masses?

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:28 PM
Travis Wood on for Cincy in the 5th.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:29 PM
Ellis lines out to 1b, nice play by Votto apparently. One down.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:30 PM
Suzuki and Kouzmanoff out in quick order. Good inning for Wood.

10-4 middle of 5.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:31 PM
What is that, about a .400 OBP, .684 SLG and .1084 OPS ?

I am real happy for him. Anyone esle doing that well for the Reds, even though "spring stats" don't mean anything to the masses?

Francisco has a freakish .900+ SLG this spring.

Spring~Fields
03-15-2010, 06:33 PM
Francisco has a freakish .900+ SLG this spring.

I did not know that either. Well I think they deserve credit for what they have done, and coming to ST prepared to do it.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:35 PM
Two quick outs for the Reds, and C-Dickerson up looking for this triple for the cycle...but, no, only a single this time.

4 for 4 for Dickerson.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:36 PM
I did not know that either. Well I think they deserve credit for what they have done, and coming to ST prepared to do it.

doesn't have today's game stats yet.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?statType=1&statType=Overview&teamPosCode=all&timeFrame=1&c_id=cin&sitSplit=&venueID=&section1=null&Submit=Submit&subScope=pos&baseballScope=CN2&timeSubFrame=23&&sortByStat=OBP

reds44
03-15-2010, 06:37 PM
Dickerson is 4-4.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:38 PM
Two quick outs for the Reds, and C-Dickerson up looking for this triple for the cycle...but, no, only a single this time.

4 for 4 for Dickerson.

.428 .454 .714

he's on fiyah...

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:39 PM
Cabrera doubles, Dickerson scores. 11-4 Reds lead. Jennings out.

Alonso hitting for Votto.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:40 PM
Alonso Ks.

11-4 Reds after 5.

Spring~Fields
03-15-2010, 06:42 PM
doesn't have today's game stats yet.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/stats/sortable_player_stats.jsp?statType=1&statType=Overview&teamPosCode=all&timeFrame=1&c_id=cin&sitSplit=&venueID=&section1=null&Submit=Submit&subScope=pos&baseballScope=CN2&timeSubFrame=23&&sortByStat=OBP

Thank you, I had not looked there for stats in ST. I guess that they don't add the B games?? I believe that Francisco has 3 HR on the spring, so can we assume that many of these guys have done even better so far in ST?

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:43 PM
One out to start the A's 6th. Heisey in game for Reds now.

A's announcers are fondly recalling, for them, the 2004 A's beatdown of Cincy in Oakland over a three-game series that June.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:45 PM
Cust works a walk. One out, one on.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:47 PM
Another walk. Two on, one out.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:48 PM
Former Phillies prospect (and object of my affection in the baseball sense) and current A's prospect Michael Taylor pinch-running at 1b for Oakland.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:49 PM
Thank you, I had not looked there for stats in ST. I guess that they don't add the B games?? I believe that Francisco has 3 HR on the spring, so can we assume that many of these guys have done even better so far in ST?

yeah, B games aren't included, but Francisco has had 12 "official" AB's this spring, and he's tearing it up.

TheNext44
03-15-2010, 06:49 PM
Awesome start by Dickerson, but to be fair, it is very possible that Stubbs could end up with better offensive numbers by the end of spring. And no matter what, the stats they do put up are pretty meaningless.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:49 PM
Nice K from Wood. Two on, two out, and Adam Rosales up for Oakland. He's 2 for 2 on the day, I believe.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:50 PM
Rosales has played 5 games at SS, 2 at 2nd, 1 at 3b, and 1 in the OF for Oakland on the spring, apparently, according to the A's announcing team.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:51 PM
Rosales singles softly to the LF, run scores, and runners move up on the play at the plate.

Runners and 2nd and 3rd, two outs, and score now 11-5, Reds still in the lead.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:52 PM
Wood Ks Gabe Gross to end the inning.

11-5 Reds, middle of 6.

TRF
03-15-2010, 06:54 PM
Awesome start by Dickerson, but to be fair, it is very possible that Stubbs could end up with better offensive numbers by the end of spring. And no matter what, the stats they do put up are pretty meaningless.

wanna guess who leads the reds in striking out this spring? by a w i d e margin? Stubbs. 7 whiffs. he's hitting .100

I'd want to see him hit close to .200 before we think about him outhitting Dickerson.

ST stats matter except when they don't I don't see either Stubbs or Dickerson with a stranglehold on CF. I don't think Gomes has that kind of hold on LF. Gomes will be in Cincinnati, but will it be as a fulltime starter or part of a platoon? And if it is a platoon, will his opposite be Dickerson or someone else? Will Dickerson with the CF job outright? Will Stubbs?

Just over two weeks left. it's not early anymore, we are midway through ST.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:55 PM
Cairo hit by pitch. Heisey up. Cairo steals second.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:59 PM
Heisey pops out. Wladimir Balentin crushes a long home run. Reds up 13-5. Sutton Ks.

membengal
03-15-2010, 06:59 PM
Chris Burke up.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:00 PM
Burke grounds out.

13-5 Reds lead after 6.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:02 PM
Travis Wood back in for his third inning of work. Mike Leake getting loose in the pen.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:09 PM
K to start the 7th, for Wood, then a walk. 3Ks and 3 walks for Wood in his work so far.

One down, one on.

Spring~Fields
03-15-2010, 07:11 PM
Awesome start by Dickerson, but to be fair, it is very possible that Stubbs could end up with better offensive numbers by the end of spring. And no matter what, the stats they do put up are pretty meaningless.

I believe you, I believe you. :)

So can we have the guys that are getting on base the most meaningless times leading off the start of the season? :devil:

Because I do recall Jay Bruces, Encarncion, Patterson, and Tevaras stats in the past ST being pretty much meaningless....the past couple seasons. :all_cohol

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:13 PM
Force play and K ends the inning and Woods' day. Good outing for Woods.

13-5 Reds lead middle of 7.

SirFelixCat
03-15-2010, 07:17 PM
Thanks for the updates all, esp. membengal!

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:17 PM
Mes got on, didn't hear how, and then was forced. One down, one on. Paul Janish up.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:19 PM
Infield single (or error) gets Janish on. Two on, one out, Alonso up. A's announcers say calling that a hit is being uber-kind of the official scorer.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:21 PM
Alonso Ks. Two down, two on.

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:22 PM
Next hitter up, whoever it was, is out.

13-5 Reds lead after 7.

reds44
03-15-2010, 07:29 PM
Is there any chance at all that Francisco makes the team if he keeps hitting?

membengal
03-15-2010, 07:30 PM
Phones rang, work intruded, and I didn't hear what Leake did. Sounds like the A's went up and down quickly. My aplogies, all.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 07:31 PM
easy 1-2-3 inning, 2 Ks

icehole3
03-15-2010, 07:41 PM
Leake on in the 9th, Gregorio Petit strikes out swinging.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 07:42 PM
Gabe Gross grounds out, second baseman Chris Burke to first baseman Yonder Alonso.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 07:42 PM
Eric Sogard singles on a line drive to right fielder Wladimir Balentien.

icehole3
03-15-2010, 07:44 PM
Landon Powell called out on strikes. ballgame

klw
03-15-2010, 08:47 PM
I think Leake is probably ahead of Chapman for the 5th spot- with cultural adjustment issues and $ issues part of the equation. He is certainly pitching as if he belongs.

REDblooded
03-15-2010, 08:58 PM
I think Leake is probably ahead of Chapman for the 5th spot- with cultural adjustment issues and $ issues part of the equation. He is certainly pitching as if he belongs.

I wouldn't have either up before the June deadline... Bring in Maloney, hope he pitches well, get through April and May, and look to make a move...

Sea Ray
03-15-2010, 10:10 PM
I think Leake is probably ahead of Chapman for the 5th spot- with cultural adjustment issues and $ issues part of the equation. He is certainly pitching as if he belongs.

I'd like to see Wood as the 5th starter as of right now but we do still have three weeks to go

Sea Ray
03-15-2010, 10:13 PM
wanna guess who leads the reds in striking out this spring? by a w i d e margin? Stubbs. 7 whiffs. he's hitting .100

I'd want to see him hit close to .200 before we think about him outhitting Dickerson.

ST stats matter except when they don't I don't see either Stubbs or Dickerson with a stranglehold on CF. I don't think Gomes has that kind of hold on LF. Gomes will be in Cincinnati, but will it be as a fulltime starter or part of a platoon? And if it is a platoon, will his opposite be Dickerson or someone else? Will Dickerson with the CF job outright? Will Stubbs?

Just over two weeks left. it's not early anymore, we are midway through ST.


Actually we still have a full three weeks left and they've only been playing games for a week and a half so it is still early but I agree with you, if things don't change then Dickerson deserves to start vs RHPs

Benihana
03-15-2010, 10:45 PM
I wouldn't have either up before the June deadline... Bring in Maloney, hope he pitches well, get through April and May, and look to make a move...

Agreed. I'd like to see Maloney, Wood, or one of the vets (Lehr or Wells) take the #5 spot at least for April. If they falter, bring up one of the other guys listed above to do it for May. Then bring up Chapman or Leake if they tear it up in Louisville for the first two months of the season, and save an extra year of eligibility (at least in Leake's case.)

Plus, if Maloney or Wood pitches well and Leake and Chapman are forcing your hand, you could conceivably fetch a nice return in a trade for either lefty (Maloney or Wood.)

Spring~Fields
03-16-2010, 12:16 AM
OAKLAND AB R H BI CINCINNATI AB R H BI
R Davis cf 3 1 1 1 C Dickerson cf 4 3 4 2
G Gross ph-cf 2 0 0 0 J Anderson cf 1 0 0 0
M Ellis 2b 3 0 0 0 O Cabrera ss 4 1 2 1
E Sogard 2b 2 0 1 0 P Janish ss 1 0 1 0
K Suzuki c 3 1 1 2 J Votto 1b 2 1 1 1
L Powell c 1 0 0 0 Y Alonso ph-1b 2 0 0 0
K Kouzmanoff 3b 3 0 1 1 S Rolen 3b 2 1 0 0
S Tolleson 3b 1 0 0 0 M Cairo 3b 1 1 0 0
R Sweeney rf 3 0 0 0 J Gomes lf 3 1 2 2
T Buck rf 1 0 0 0 C Heisey lf 2 0 0 0
J Cust dh 2 0 1 0 L Nix rf 3 1 1 2
C Brown pr-dh 1 1 0 0 W Balentien rf 2 1 1 2
D Barton 1b 2 1 1 0 J Francisco dh 3 1 1 0
C Carter pr-1b 1 0 0 0 D Sutton ph-dh 2 0 1 0
J Fox lf 3 0 0 0 A Miles 2b 3 1 0 1
E Patterson lf 1 0 0 0 C Burke 2b 2 0 0 0
A Rosales ss 3 1 3 1 W Castillo c 3 1 1 2
G Petit pr-ss 1 0 0 0 D Mesoraco c 1 0 1 0
TOTALS 36 5 9 5 TOTALS 41 13 16 13

E--M Ellis, D Mesoraco. LOB--OAKLAND 7, CINCINNATI 7. 2B--K
Suzuki, D Barton, C Dickerson, D Sutton, W Castillo, O
Cabrera, J Gomes. HR--C Dickerson 1 (1), W Balentien 1 (1).
SB--M Cairo 1 (1).

IP H R ER BB SO HR
OAKLAND
B Sheets (L,0-2) 0 8 10 9 1 0 1
F Hernandez 2 0 0 0 0 2 0
J Jennings 2 2-3 4 1 1 1 2 0
J Blevins 1 1-3 1 2 2 0 2 1
B Ziegler 1 2 0 0 0 1 0
H Rodriguez 1 1 0 0 0 0 0

CINCINNATI
M Lincoln (W,2-1) 3 5 4 4 0 2 0
F Cordero 1 2 0 0 0 1 0
T Wood 3 1 1 1 3 4 0
M Leake 2 1 0 0 0 4 0

Ron Madden
03-16-2010, 03:47 AM
What is that, about a .400 OBP, .684 SLG and .1084 OPS ?

I am real happy for him. Anyone esle doing that well for the Reds, even though "spring stats" don't mean anything to the masses?

Pay no attention to these numbers.They are only meaningful if applied to a number one draft choice or a media favorite. ;)

TRF
03-16-2010, 11:13 AM
at the bottom of ESPN's recap of the game...


Game notes
Oakland RHP Jason Jennings changed his number from 77 to 29 for the rest of spring training. ... Oakland pitching prospect Travis Wood threw three innings, allowing one run. It's the only run he has given up in seven innings. Wood had a 1.21 ERA in the Southern League last season. ... Gomes also had a pair of hits, raising his average to .333.

oh espn, never change. or fact check.

Sea Ray
03-16-2010, 02:40 PM
at the bottom of ESPN's recap of the game...



oh espn, never change. or fact check.

Funny how that trade to Oakland never hit the threads here at RZ...