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TRF
03-12-2010, 01:12 PM
GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- With the fervor of an angry mime, Reds pitching coach Bryan Price imitated a delivery toward home plate in the Cincinnati bullpen. First, Price lifted his leg slowly, then twisted his hips before finally finishing with a fury toward home.

"Trust location," Price told Reds pitcher Johnny Cueto.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=arangure_jorge_jr&id=4985743

OnBaseMachine
03-12-2010, 04:49 PM
Great article by Jorge Arangure. He's by far my favorite writer on ESPN. I thought this was interesting:


"I was a little tired because I had pitched so much," Cueto said. "First it was winter league, then the World Baseball Classic and then spring training and then the regular season. My arm was so tired that my ball had no life to it."

That was always my theory on why his numbers dropped off so sharply in the middle of last season. I really think the extra rest will do him some good this season.

Eric_the_Red
03-12-2010, 05:01 PM
Great article by Jorge Arangure. He's by far my favorite writer on ESPN. I thought this was interesting:



That was always my theory on why his numbers dropped off so sharply in the middle of last season. I really think the extra rest will do him some good this season.

I agree. I think Cueto makes the biggest jump of the Reds SP this year.

RedEye
03-15-2010, 11:13 AM
I think Bruce, Bailey and Cueto all of have potential to be the "key" to this season. If more than one of them breaks out at the same time, we could see a lot more wins than we're accustomed to here.

bucksfan2
03-15-2010, 11:21 AM
I think Bruce, Bailey and Cueto all of have potential to be the "key" to this season. If more than one of them breaks out at the same time, we could see a lot more wins than we're accustomed to here.

I put more importance on Bruce and Bailey than I do Cueto. To be honest I think Cueto is at worst a .500 pitcher this season. But I think both Bruce and Bailey have a more impressive upside than Cueto does but I also think they are bigger question marks.

Edd Roush
03-15-2010, 12:13 PM
Did any one else notice that they had Justin Lehr projected as our fifth starter? I have to figure he is the fourth favorite to win the job behind Owings, Maloney and Chapman (not necessarily in that order), but I understand that this a subject of another thread.

bucksfan2
03-15-2010, 12:25 PM
Did any one else notice that they had Justin Lehr projected as our fifth starter? I have to figure he is the fourth favorite to win the job behind Owings, Maloney and Chapman (not necessarily in that order), but I understand that this a subject of another thread.

He ended the season in the 5th spot with Owings ending the season in the pen. Chapman was also a big question mark by the time this article was probably due.

But I do agree with you, Lehr is a long shot to get the 5th spot.

Big Klu
03-16-2010, 11:36 AM
Did any one else notice that they had Justin Lehr projected as our fifth starter? I have to figure he is the fourth favorite to win the job behind Owings, Maloney and Chapman (not necessarily in that order), but I understand that this a subject of another thread.

Kip Wells might be ahead of him, too.

WebScorpion
03-18-2010, 01:49 AM
Great article by Jorge Arangure. He's by far my favorite writer on ESPN. I thought this was interesting:



That was always my theory on why his numbers dropped off so sharply in the middle of last season. I really think the extra rest will do him some good this season.

I think the rest will make him much better in the second half. Unfortunately, I think the lack of work will make him a bit rusty so he won't start the season on fire like he did in 2009. All in all, I agree...I think he'll have a better overall season though.

OnBaseMachine
03-26-2010, 06:11 PM
John Sickels profiles Johnny Cueto:


Also note that Cueto hasn't used the changeup much in the majors, even though the pitch was universally praised as a key to his minor league success in 2007. Problems with pitch selection and sequencing are common for young pitchers as they adjust to major league competition, and I personally think this is something Cueto can and will correct as he gains experience.


If these lists have any validity at all, it looks like Cueto has a very good chance to be a very solid major league starter (which most of these guys were), a small chance to be a genuine superstar in the Greinke/Sabathia mode, and a relatively small chance to completely fail.

Read the full article here:
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/3/25/1389910/not-a-rookie-johnny-cueto#storyjump

OnBaseMachine
04-08-2010, 03:30 AM
Cueto is throwing a sinker now?

From C. Trent:


Cueto said he felt fine with his pitch count, he said he threw mostly sinkers, which didn't take as much out of him. According to PitchFX he threw 33 four-seam fastballs (with an average of 93.27 mph and a high of 95.8) and 32 sinkers. He also threw 28 two-seam fastballs.

http://cnati.com/cincinnati-reds/cards-get-to-reds-pen-again-001711/

lollipopcurve
04-08-2010, 07:57 AM
Cueto is throwing a sinker now?

Doesn't sound right to me -- unless he's calling his slider a sinker now. I think he threw a few changeups last night, too, but not many.

Falls City Beer
04-08-2010, 09:58 AM
Doesn't sound right to me -- unless he's calling his slider a sinker now. I think he threw a few changeups last night, too, but not many.

Cueto got both Pujols and Holliday out on a changeup.

lollipopcurve
04-08-2010, 12:58 PM
Cueto got both Pujols and Holliday out on a changeup.

I thought Cueto pitched very well late last year using fastball-changeup almost exclusively. I believe Corky Miller called the first game in which Cueto went in that direction. Would like to see him use that pitch at least as much as the slider, probably more. But he loves that slider.

dougdirt
04-08-2010, 01:07 PM
I thought Cueto pitched very well late last year using fastball-changeup almost exclusively. I believe Corky Miller called the first game in which Cueto went in that direction. Would like to see him use that pitch at least as much as the slider, probably more. But he loves that slider.

Last season the slider really fell off throughout the season in terms of effectiveness. It lost almost a full MPH from starts 1-10 to 11-20 and then another MPH from starts 11-20 to 21 to the end of the season. If Cueto can rely on his change up as an out pitch this season, he could be very good.

dougdirt
04-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Little more on Johnny Cueto from last night

Threw
16 change ups (avg 82.3 MPH)
61 fastballs (avg 92.8 MPH)
32 sliders (avg 84.5 MPH)

Swinging Strikes
Change up - 1
Fastball - 3
Slider - 3

Called Strikes
Change up - 1
Fastball - 10
Slider - 2

Falls City Beer
04-12-2010, 09:14 PM
For a guy whose calling card is control, Cueto seems distinctly lacking.

fearofpopvol1
04-12-2010, 09:25 PM
His release point is off. He's hanging too many balls.

His velocity does seem down though. I know he works usually 92-94, but I have not seen him hit 95 once.

OnBaseMachine
04-12-2010, 11:23 PM
Did anyone see Cueto get squeezed on that 3-2 pitch to Hanley Ramirez? The FSN Ohio strikezone graphic showed it was clearly strike three. The Marlins went on to score three runs that inning.

Cedric
04-12-2010, 11:42 PM
Did anyone see Cueto get squeezed on that 3-2 pitch to Hanley Ramirez? The FSN Ohio strikezone graphic showed it was clearly strike three. The Marlins went on to score three runs that inning.

You have to adjust and not just crumble. It's pretty obvious that Cueto doesn't handle adversity real well yet. Poise and location are his main problems right now.

Will M
04-13-2010, 01:28 AM
Did anyone see Cueto get squeezed on that 3-2 pitch to Hanley Ramirez? The FSN Ohio strikezone graphic showed it was clearly strike three. The Marlins went on to score three runs that inning.

yes but it wasn't that bad of a call by the ump. the pitch just grazed the zone.

OnBaseMachine
04-13-2010, 01:33 AM
You have to adjust and not just crumble. It's pretty obvious that Cueto doesn't handle adversity real well yet. Poise and location are his main problems right now.

Oh, I agree. He can't get frustrated out there and lose his focus likes he does at times, but with a little luck tonight he probably allows only one run. In the three run inning, with one out and the bases empty he induced a groundball that a good defensive shortstop gets to. Then the next batter, Ramirez, took a 3-2 pitch that FSN showed was clearly strike 3 but the ump (C.B. Bucknor, him missing a call isn't surprising) ruled it ball 4. So instead of a 1-2-3 inning, the Marlins put two runners on and eventually scored three runs in the inning.

bucksfan2
04-13-2010, 09:52 AM
Oh, I agree. He can't get frustrated out there and lose his focus likes he does at times, but with a little luck tonight he probably allows only one run. In the three run inning, with one out and the bases empty he induced a groundball that a good defensive shortstop gets to. Then the next batter, Ramirez, took a 3-2 pitch that FSN showed was clearly strike 3 but the ump (C.B. Bucknor, him missing a call isn't surprising) ruled it ball 4. So instead of a 1-2-3 inning, the Marlins put two runners on and eventually scored three runs in the inning.

Man you really don't like Cabrera.

Bucknor was pretty erratic in the innings that I saw but you have to make amends for that.

OnBaseMachine
04-13-2010, 12:34 PM
Man you really don't like Cabrera.


Not true at all. I'm not sure why you would say that. When Cabrera played for the Expos he was one of my favorite players in the game. Just stating a fact - Cabrera's defense is subpar these days.