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TRF
03-29-2010, 06:09 PM
By now we have all heard of Strasburg, Chapman and Howard. But what come from nowhere prospects are you looking at that have secured a major league job?

For me, a guy flying totally under the radar is Ian Desmond of the Nats. From the Nats official website:

Ian Desmond, SS: After being put on the fast track -- maybe the too-fast track -- in 2006, Desmond fell off the radar for a few years before enjoying a resurgence in 2009, hitting .330 between Harrisburg and Syracuse after missing the first two months of the season with a fractured hamate bone. He finished the year in the big leagues, batting .280 with four homers in 21 games, and will open the season at shortstop in Washington. He is outstanding defensively with range, energy and athleticism.

That's an interesting infield, especially on the left side with Desmond and Zimmerman. They should make it easier for Dunn at 1B.

Offensively, Desmond could be a 15 HR guy with 20+SB's. or more.

Ian Desmond is TRF's Taco Bell breakout prospect.

RedEye
03-29-2010, 06:59 PM
Are you referring to Jason Heyward, or is there another prospect named Howard that I have not heard of?

Anyway, another player who has emerged this ST is Sean Rodriguez at 2B for Tampa Bay.

Orenda
03-29-2010, 08:18 PM
Gaby Sanchez 1b Florida Marlins

REDblooded
03-29-2010, 08:48 PM
Jamie Garcia - SP Cardinals

thatcoolguy_22
03-29-2010, 09:04 PM
Kyle Blanks - OF/1B Padres

HeatherC1212
03-29-2010, 09:19 PM
Brian Matusz, SP, Orioles

mbgrayson
03-29-2010, 09:22 PM
Tyler Colvin as the Cubs 4th outfielder. Fair use snippet from Baseball HQ:

3/29/2010 - A monster March has propelled Tyler Colvin (OF, CHC) onto the big-league roster, manager Lou Pinella confirmed Sunday. A .468/.468/.710 line in 62 AB tends to have that affect.

bucksfan2
03-30-2010, 09:25 AM
Are you referring to Jason Heyward, or is there another prospect named Howard that I have not heard of?

Anyway, another player who has emerged this ST is Sean Rodriguez at 2B for Tampa Bay.

I think Jason Heyward is being set up for a fall. I heard Kurkjian talking on ESPN radio yesterday talking about how Heyward will be the impact bat Atlanta is missing. People are talking about Heyward like he is the real deal already. We as Reds fans have seen even the best rookies will struggle.

TRF
03-30-2010, 10:22 AM
Yeah, I meant Heyward. Do'h!

TRF
03-30-2010, 10:24 AM
Brian Matusz, SP, Orioles

I have him on 2 fantasy teams. I think he's poised for a huge breakout.

Bumstead
03-30-2010, 10:40 AM
I think Jason Heyward is being set up for a fall. I heard Kurkjian talking on ESPN radio yesterday talking about how Heyward will be the impact bat Atlanta is missing. People are talking about Heyward like he is the real deal already. We as Reds fans have seen even the best rookies will struggle.

I think you will see that they are right about Heyward. He may not come out and hit 30 HR's this year (or even next year) but .280 with an OPS above .800 could be the minimum he will do given 500 PA's. IMHO

Bum

If Eric Young can get 500 PA's he could steal 50+ bases easily and provide solid offensive production; his defese may be weak however.

lollipopcurve
03-30-2010, 10:56 AM
I have him on 2 fantasy teams. I think he's poised for a huge breakout.

Tough ballpark and tough division.

membengal
03-30-2010, 11:16 AM
---BJ Upton to come into his own and explode as a genuine baseball star. Think 30/50 and an MVP type campaign in Tampa.

---CJ Wilson to take well to starting rather than relieving in Texas. I think he can have a Kenny Rogers type career arc now.

---Fausto Carmona with a career bounceback year as his control returns in Cleveland.

TRF
03-30-2010, 11:22 AM
Nobody knows who Julio Borbon is, but after this season they will. He could steal 50+ bases while hitting for some moderate power.

HeatherC1212
03-30-2010, 11:35 AM
Tough ballpark and tough division.

Yes but he was up with the O's for a while last season so it's not going to be as intimidating for him this year. IIRC, he threw like six or seven shutout innings in one of his starts at Yankee Stadium last year and it doesn't seem like much fazes him. I think his overall stats last year were pretty decent for a young starter too. This guy knows how to pitch and I think he's going to do a great job for the O's this year. :)

11larkin11
03-30-2010, 12:27 PM
Brian Matusz, SP, Orioles
Always loved him. He was my favorite player in that draft.

REDblooded
03-30-2010, 01:46 PM
If we're talking guys to look for in fantasy that are quite a bit undervalued, Jeff Niemann immediately comes to mind. In the 2nd half of last season he picked up the K's and his walks dropped immensely. I'm seeing a guy that could easily win 15, have a sub 4 era, and k 150+...

I agree on Blanks. Great power rate.

Borbon is nice, but I'm not sure about 50 sb's... I like him more for the runs he'll get at the top of that order.

Cueto is definitely a guy people are overlooking.

Liriano is another one.

Stephen Drew is on the cusp of a big season, as is Hunter Pence.

Chris Coghlan, even as reigning ROY is a guy that people still don't seem sold on, but I'll gladly take a guy that should continue to hit .310+ and score runs... Not to mention the fact that if Uggla is traded he should be primed to slide back to his natural position of 2b.

My dark horse is Matt Antonelli... Once considered the top 2b prospect in the game he struggled the past season and a half, but has hit again this spring. He could be poised to return to a .300+ hitting 2bman with a touch of pop.

REDblooded
03-30-2010, 01:47 PM
And yes. Matusz is filthy.

REDblooded
03-30-2010, 01:51 PM
I helped a guy draft last night in a 5x5 roto league... The league was filled with baseball writers and fantasy experts... I told him to focus bats early, and to pay specific attention to filling his infield with solid bats... Here's what he ended up with in a 12 team league...

C - Wieters
1b - Butler
2b - Cano
SS - Hanley
3b - Zimmerman
OF - BJ Upton
OF - Pence
OF - Borbon
Ut - S Drew
Ut - G Beckham

SP - Haren
SP - B Anderson
RP - F Cordero
RP - Jenks
P - Matusz
P - Liriano
P - Cueto
P - Harang

BN - Strasburg, Blanks, H Kendrick, Stubbs, Chapman

TRF
03-30-2010, 02:08 PM
Fantasy, specifically the dynasty league I am in got me thinking about it, but I like to see who the future stars are.

Borbon ran wild in very limited duty last year: 157 AB's 19 SB's. He can fly. He's the Rangers only SB threat, and I have a feeling he's going to run a lot.

Ian Desmond has even less hype, winning the starting SS job this week. Offensively he's almost a complete unknown. He's 24 and this will be his first full season as a major leaguer.

These unheralded types are my baseball crack... can't get enough of them.

OnBaseMachine
03-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Desmond Jennings, OF, Rays. He's good enough to push B.J. Upton to a corner outfield spot. He's got solid power potential, great plate discipline, plus-plus speed, and plays a very good center field. He'll begin the season in the minors but should be up with the Rays by June.

Brian Matusz and Matt Wieters are great picks as well.

Bumstead
03-30-2010, 03:38 PM
Nobody knows who Julio Borbon is, but after this season they will. He could steal 50+ bases while hitting for some moderate power.

I have him in my keeper league and he was awesome at the end of last season. Of course, he hit better in Texas than he did in the minors so one has to wonder whether he will be able to continue to hit like he did in Texas or if there will be an adjustment period this season. I think he will be a fine player, this year may end up being a bit of a disappointment though if one expects him to maintain the same pace as last September.

Bum

TRF
03-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Is Weiters really an unknown?

I'm also amazed at how many Yankees relievers I hadn't really heard of. almost a youth movement there.

Bumstead
03-30-2010, 03:48 PM
I think suggesting Weiters as a sleeper would be akin to suggesting David Price as a sleeper. Now Wade Davis may be a better fit in this category; the kid is going to be good.

Bum

REDblooded
03-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Fantasy, specifically the dynasty league I am in got me thinking about it, but I like to see who the future stars are.

Borbon ran wild in very limited duty last year: 157 AB's 19 SB's. He can fly. He's the Rangers only SB threat, and I have a feeling he's going to run a lot.

Ian Desmond has even less hype, winning the starting SS job this week. Offensively he's almost a complete unknown. He's 24 and this will be his first full season as a major leaguer.

These unheralded types are my baseball crack... can't get enough of them.

I like Borbon, but Andrus is also a sb threat there... And any guy going for 13-20 dollars in standard 10 team auctions is no longer a sleeper...

TRF
03-30-2010, 04:31 PM
I like Borbon, but Andrus is also a sb threat there... And any guy going for 13-20 dollars in standard 10 team auctions is no longer a sleeper...

Yeah, Kinsler and Cruz too. don't know what i was thinking there. I do think he's going to run alot this year.

The Ranger have a very good shot at that division, if their rotation doesn't implode.

Brutus
03-30-2010, 04:42 PM
Gaby Sanchez 1b Florida Marlins

I tend to think Gaby will simply be keeping the seat warm for Morrisson. Logan's plate discipline is uncanny for his age, which is one of the things Sanchez struggles with. If Sanchez has a good start to the year, it might buy him the rest of the season. But otherwise, I give it until July until his job is taken.

Orenda
07-05-2010, 07:09 PM
I tend to think Gaby will simply be keeping the seat warm for Morrisson. Logan's plate discipline is uncanny for his age, which is one of the things Sanchez struggles with. If Sanchez has a good start to the year, it might buy him the rest of the season. But otherwise, I give it until July until his job is taken.

I apologize to the forum for my immaturity but my ego needs to take this moment to update this thread.

As of today Gaby Sanchez is at .308/.376/.481. He leads NL rookies in Avg and OBP and is second in Slg and OPS behind Tyler Colvin.

Right now this guy is making a case for NL rookie of the year, although i would be surprised if the higher upside guy, Jason Heyward, doesn't end up with the award (which wouldn't really bother me).

IMO he is the definition of an under the radar type of guy because of the position he plays, his age, and also because of the more glamorous prospects within his own organization, as Brutus kindly pointed out.

Unless he switches positions at some point or has a dramatic increase in power, i don't think he will ever be an All-Star but he is proving himself to be a tough out and a solid everyday bat. (At least for now).

REDblooded
07-05-2010, 10:57 PM
If we're talking guys to look for in fantasy that are quite a bit undervalued, Jeff Niemann immediately comes to mind. In the 2nd half of last season he picked up the K's and his walks dropped immensely. I'm seeing a guy that could easily win 15, have a sub 4 era, and k 150+...

I agree on Blanks. Great power rate.

Borbon is nice, but I'm not sure about 50 sb's... I like him more for the runs he'll get at the top of that order.

Cueto is definitely a guy people are overlooking.

Liriano is another one.

Stephen Drew is on the cusp of a big season, as is Hunter Pence.

Chris Coghlan, even as reigning ROY is a guy that people still don't seem sold on, but I'll gladly take a guy that should continue to hit .310+ and score runs... Not to mention the fact that if Uggla is traded he should be primed to slide back to his natural position of 2b.

My dark horse is Matt Antonelli... Once considered the top 2b prospect in the game he struggled the past season and a half, but has hit again this spring. He could be poised to return to a .300+ hitting 2bman with a touch of pop.

In that case, I've done pretty well here...