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_Sir_Charles_
04-15-2010, 05:32 PM
Chris Dickerson cf
Orlando Cabrera ss
Joey Votto 1b
Brandon Phillips 2b
Scott Rolen 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Jonny Gomes lf
Ramon Hernandez c
Aaron Harang p


vs. RHP Josh Johnson (0-1 with a 6.30 ERA...15-5 with a 3.23 ERA last year)

According to Fay, Nix was going to start but was scratched due to the flu.

_Sir_Charles_
04-15-2010, 06:08 PM
Central Updates:

Brewers beating Cubs 8-5 in the 9th. Suppan & Zambrano started
Houston beat the Cards for win #1. Norris & Loshe started and got the decisions
Pirates are off

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 06:20 PM
Bold prediction: The guy wearing the number 42 will score.

LincolnparkRed
04-15-2010, 06:34 PM
Bold prediction: The guy wearing the number 42 will score.
He will also be driven in by #42

And another fearless prediction: #42 will strike someone out in this game

oneupper
04-15-2010, 07:00 PM
Las Vegas predicting a Marlins win.
The line is +130 Reds -150 Florida.

Will M
04-15-2010, 07:45 PM
Las Vegas predicting a Marlins win.
The line is +130 Reds -150 Florida.

i suspect this is about the usual line if 2 equal teams with equal starters play. the home team has a bit of an edge.

HeatherC1212
04-15-2010, 08:21 PM
I like Joey being a stolen base threat this year. :D

RBA
04-15-2010, 08:24 PM
The Game is on MLB Network alternate channel. I'm getting it on Directv Channel 214 (SD) and 214-1 (HD).

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 08:33 PM
Bruce with a hit. Good to see.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:37 PM
Bruce with a hit. Good to see.

He's been swinging the bat well this series, but really the only difference is he's finding holes finally every now and then. I would expect the power to come once he gets a little more confidence through sustained success.

reds44
04-15-2010, 08:40 PM
5 strikeouts already.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 08:40 PM
Josh Johnson's good.

HeatherC1212
04-15-2010, 08:40 PM
Hey, I think there might be twenty Marlins fans at the game tonight. :p:

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:40 PM
Hernandez went from an offensive catcher in baltimore to a guy who really doesn't offer much in any phase of the game.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 08:41 PM
The only positive is that its taken Johnson 45 pitches to get through 2 innings.

oneupper
04-15-2010, 08:41 PM
Wide strike zone tonight. The Ks will be piling up.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:42 PM
Doc Kremcheck sighting

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 08:43 PM
Whoa, suddenly my TV cuts to Ric Flair hyping nascar. I love the Nature Boy, but I'm trying to watch the Reds.

reds44
04-15-2010, 08:43 PM
What on earth was Gomes doing there?

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:43 PM
Uggla hammers Harang.... played beautifully by Gomes in left

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:44 PM
I'll have to tell you guys sometime about the time I met Doc Kremcheck's brother in the diamond seats.... it was funny

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:45 PM
2 down on the groundout to Cabrera. Come on aaron get out of this without any damage

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 08:49 PM
1-0 Fish.

oneupper
04-15-2010, 08:52 PM
RFS62 is in the stands. See if someone can spot him.

Chip R
04-15-2010, 08:53 PM
RFS62 is in the stands. See if someone can spot him.

Look for the floral shirt.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:54 PM
Harang tennis rackets out to third

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:54 PM
base hit for Dickerson to RF

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:57 PM
CDick steals 2nd base. Love it.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 08:58 PM
O-Cab ties the game with a double.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:58 PM
Double by Orlando Cabrera on a bad ball.... he feels Janish nipping at his heels ;)

1-1 ballgame

reds44
04-15-2010, 08:58 PM
OC has shown some surprising power this year.

1-1.

Reds are running on Johnson, making him work too.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 08:59 PM
Johnson seems to be throwing a fastball right down the middle first pitch every at bat.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:00 PM
Those were a couple of pitiful ABs by Votto and Phillips.

mbgrayson
04-15-2010, 09:03 PM
Johnson at 59 pitches after throwing three innings....At that rate, he will be gone after 5 innings as long as the Reds don't get too hacktastic (like Phillips last inning)

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 09:08 PM
blergh. 2-1 Marlins.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:09 PM
Maybin can fly.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 09:14 PM
Grand slam time

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 09:15 PM
Harang simply not giving us much of a chance tonight. Becoming a common theme really.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 09:16 PM
bloop single. 3-1.

flyer85
04-15-2010, 09:16 PM
Gomes showed some wheels on that one

CTA513
04-15-2010, 09:17 PM
This team really needs someone in LF who can hit and play some defense.

mbgrayson
04-15-2010, 09:17 PM
Gomes showed some wheels on that one

And he deked the baserunners by acting like he was going to catch the ball. That saved one run, at least for now.

Mario-Rijo
04-15-2010, 09:19 PM
This team really needs someone in LF who can hit and play some defense.

The guy at the plate perhaps? I imagine the Marlins would come off him.

NM

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 09:20 PM
Ross k's his bat right out of his hands.

Mario-Rijo
04-15-2010, 09:30 PM
:confused:

:D

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 09:35 PM
Very hittable Harang tonight. 4-1 Fish.

Mario-Rijo
04-15-2010, 09:35 PM
Boy this Maybin kid is something else to watch.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 09:35 PM
Harang, Bruce, Gomes, etc.

On a given night this group will make you turn off your television.

jojo
04-15-2010, 09:36 PM
Has anyone ever given up 100 homers in a season? It sure seems like Harang is given up alot...

flyer85
04-15-2010, 09:37 PM
awful pitch selection on Maybin. Where the hell was the slider he couldn't have hit with an ironing board

mbgrayson
04-15-2010, 09:38 PM
After only 4 innings, Marlins up 4 to 1.

Josh Johnson has throw 73 pitches, 49 of which were strikes.
Aaron Harang has thrown 89 pitches, 53 of which were strikes.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:40 PM
Very hittable Harang tonight. 4-1 Fish.
That's just about every night.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:41 PM
I still think Stubbs should be in CF and Dickerson should be in LF and they should be hitting 1-2.

jojo
04-15-2010, 09:42 PM
I still think Stubbs should be in CF and Dickerson should be in LF and they should be hitting 1-2.

Stubbs has back issues tonight doesn't he?

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:45 PM
Stubbs has back issues tonight doesn't he?
Yes, but he's supposed to be back tomorrow.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:47 PM
So Votto looks at a pitch right down the middle for strike 3.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 09:48 PM
This team whiffs a lot.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 09:51 PM
Getting Harang through five might be a tough act every 5th day.

mbgrayson
04-15-2010, 09:53 PM
So Votto looks at a pitch right down the middle for strike 3.

Votto has now struck out 13 times already in 42 plate appearances. That is a 31% K rate.

In 2009, Votto's K rate was 22.6%, and in 2008 it was 19.4%.

flyer85
04-15-2010, 09:54 PM
anyone else notice that Hernandez rarely drops and blocks the ball in the dirt

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 09:54 PM
We cut Cantu.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:54 PM
Harang is bad.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 09:54 PM
That's just about every night.
I'm kinda beginning to think you hate everyone on this team.

redsfaninbsg
04-15-2010, 09:55 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:55 PM
I'm kinda beginning to think you hate everyone on this team.
Not everybody. Just the bad players.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 09:56 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

He won't improve until he starts pitching to the whole plate instead of just the outside corner.

Ghosts of 1990
04-15-2010, 09:56 PM
you guys have a great night. Back to .500 we go.

Mario-Rijo
04-15-2010, 09:57 PM
I can't believe I'm saying this but I think Harang is done.

He simply is too predictable, you can't live on the outer half of the plate all of the time.

alloverjr
04-15-2010, 09:57 PM
We knew the offense would be bad but it looks like the rotation is very overrated.

reds44
04-15-2010, 09:58 PM
We knew the offense would be bad but it looks like the rotation is very overrated.
Eh, too early to say that, but Harang is well on his way to another 15 loss season.

redsfaninbsg
04-15-2010, 10:01 PM
If this continues for much longer the Reds may not have much choice other than to put Owings in the rotation.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 10:01 PM
Eh, too early to say that, but Harang is well on his way to another 15 loss season.


The Reds have 1 starting pitcher they can count on.

jojo
04-15-2010, 10:02 PM
He simply is too predictable, you can't live on the outer half of the plate all of the time.

He's being killed by poor location though... He'll make some great pitches then he'll serve one up...

reds44
04-15-2010, 10:03 PM
The Reds have 1 starting pitcher they can count on.
That's what happens when you have three guys in your starting rotation 24 and under.

reds44
04-15-2010, 10:03 PM
He's being killed by poor location though... He'll make some great pitches then he'll serve one up...
Yeah. His main problem is he's throwing too many pitches right down the middle.

Tony Cloninger
04-15-2010, 10:07 PM
He is the RH version of Tom Browning....but at least Tom would back someone off the plate.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 10:13 PM
Micah Owings is still PISSED about getting plunked last year and tries to take it out on Hanley Ramirez.

jojo
04-15-2010, 10:14 PM
Micah Owings is still PISSED about getting plunked last year and tries to take it out on Hanley Ramirez.

It was mostly a mistake pitch.

Tom Servo
04-15-2010, 10:14 PM
It was mostly a mistake pitch.
I think it was mostly blind rage. Owings's bloodlust knows no bounds.

jojo
04-15-2010, 10:15 PM
I think it was mostly blind rage. Owings's bloodlust knows no bounds.

Thank goodness it's not a full moon....

Tony Cloninger
04-15-2010, 10:15 PM
At least someone knows that throwing inside is not a bad thing

jojo
04-15-2010, 10:15 PM
Did anyone see the mysterious fireball last night?

KronoRed
04-15-2010, 10:18 PM
Did anyone see the mysterious fireball last night?

Usually the aliens don't announce themselves like that.

jojo
04-15-2010, 10:22 PM
Usually the aliens don't announce themselves like that.

a Raisor family reunion in the works? Seriously, if you can actually travel at the speed of light through deep space, maybe 50+ noble prizes isn't as impressive as it seems....

oneupper
04-15-2010, 10:23 PM
That's what happens when you have three guys in your starting rotation 24 and under.

Yep. But those guys can get better. Harang is on the wrong side of the hill.

HeatherC1212
04-15-2010, 10:27 PM
I think the Reds guys are exhausted from the previous two games and need a change of location to get their mojo back. I'm glad they'll at least split this series with the Marlins. It's still way early in the year to make snap judgments about the team as a whole and I'm giving them at least a month before I start worrying about anything. Thank goodness Pittsburgh is this weekend where the guys should get at least two wins out of the series.

Have fun being negative downers. Even me, one of the optimists of this board, can't handle too much of that tonight. :eek: :(

reds44
04-15-2010, 10:27 PM
Yep. But those guys can get better. Harang is on the wrong side of the hill.
For sure.

CTA513
04-15-2010, 10:32 PM
Owings pitch count has climbed pretty fast.

44 pitches in just 1.1 innings of work.

WVRedsFan
04-15-2010, 10:57 PM
I think the Reds guys are exhausted from the previous two games and need a change of location to get their mojo back. I'm glad they'll at least split this series with the Marlins. It's still way early in the year to make snap judgments about the team as a whole and I'm giving them at least a month before I start worrying about anything. Thank goodness Pittsburgh is this weekend where the guys should get at least two wins out of the series.

Have fun being negative downers. Even me, one of the optimists of this board, can't handle too much of that tonight. :eek: :(Everyone must have gone to bed. I just got in. Just noticed the NL West Champs are 3-5, so it could be worse. We've played the very excellent Cardinals, the Cubs and a good Marlin team and will be 5-5. Two years ago, this team would be 3-7. Small steps.

durl
04-15-2010, 11:02 PM
I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
04-15-2010, 11:02 PM
Everyone must have gone to bed. I just got in. Just noticed the NL West Champs are 3-5, so it could be worse. We've played the very excellent Cardinals, the Cubs and a good Marlin team and will be 5-5. Two years ago, this team would be 3-7. Small steps.

A four game split with a solid Marlins team on the road...AND our pitching was very sub-par. I'll take the split and walk away happy. Our hitting & pitching will improve.

btw...for those interested, it's 9-1 Marlins in the bottom of the 8th. Masset taking over for Ondrusek (who pitched well). More good news...Chris Dickerson is 2 for 3 with 2 sb's.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-15-2010, 11:02 PM
14 K's tonight. This is certainly frustrating. Votto and Bruce are not having fun at the plate.

_Sir_Charles_
04-15-2010, 11:04 PM
It's just that kind of night. Masset k's the first batter he faces...but it's a wild pitch and he's safe at first. :O) Oh well, I'm out. Gotta get up super early tomorrow. We'll get 'em next time.

WVRedsFan
04-15-2010, 11:08 PM
I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.Just a thought. This organization has spent the last three years rounding up pitching and defense and for the most part have been successful. They've ignored offensive production. Thinking Jay Bruce was the next Ken Griffey Jr and it was OK to not have an offensive minded centerfielder and leftfielder, no real MLB hitters have been acquired outside of Scott Rolen, so this is what you get. If the pitching holds up, they've got a chance in any game they play. If it doesn't, it's pretty much lights out.

WVRedsFan
04-15-2010, 11:13 PM
Heading to the top of the 9th chance, it's 10-1 bad guys. I don't think it's in the cards to win tonight (Duh).

BCubb2003
04-15-2010, 11:15 PM
At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

WVRedsFan
04-15-2010, 11:16 PM
The Reds must have a favorite barber in Miami. I don't know what to call the new doos that Hernandez and Gomes got.

Will M
04-15-2010, 11:19 PM
Hats off to BCubb2003 & WVRedsFan, 2 truly dedicated fans. everyone else called the 'mercy rule' that allows us to turn the game off when the team has a 1% less chance or less to win. you guys are true diehards!

reds1869
04-15-2010, 11:23 PM
At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

So true. Someone had to lose to them first and I'm glad it wasn't the Reds.

mbgrayson
04-15-2010, 11:34 PM
Ninth inning:
Bruce grounds out to third.
Gomes triples (!)
Hernandez grounds to short, Gomes scores.
Hanigan grounds out to third.

Final Score, Marlins 10, Reds 2.

Spring~Fields
04-15-2010, 11:35 PM
Florida 10, Cincinnati 2

Scoring Summary
Bot 2nd: Florida
- G. Sanchez doubled to deep left, D. Uggla scored

Top 3rd: Cincinnati
- O. Cabrera doubled to left, C. Dickerson scored

Bot 3rd: Florida
- J. Baker doubled to shallow left, C. Maybin scored
- D. Uggla singled to left, J. Baker scored, H. Ramirez to third, J. Cantu to second

Bot 4th: Florida
- C. Maybin homered to deep left

Bot 5th: Florida
- J. Cantu doubled to deep right center, H. Ramirez scored
- C. Ross doubled to right center, J. Cantu and D. Uggla scored
- J. Baker singled to shallow right, C. Ross scored, J. Johnson to third, C. Maybin to second

Bot 6th: Florida
- C. Ross doubled to left, J. Cantu scored

Bot 8th: Florida
- D. Uggla hit sacrifice fly to deep center, B. Barden scored

Top 9th: Cincinnati
- R. Hernandez grounded out to shortstop, J. Gomes scored



Cincinnati
IP H R ER BB K HR
A. Harang 4.0 10 8 8 2 4 1
M. Owings 2.0 2 1 1 3 3 0
L. Ondrusek 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0
N. Masset 1.0 2 1 1 0 1 0

reds1869
04-15-2010, 11:39 PM
Ninth inning:
Bruce grounds out to third.
Gomes triples (!)
Hernandez grounds to short, Gomes scores.
Hanigan grounds out to third.

Final Score, Marlins 10, Reds 2.

We may not see that too many more times. But my favorite moment of the game was the single Ramon got on the ball he hit to the wall. Man, that dude is slooooooooooooow.

Ron Madden
04-16-2010, 05:08 AM
I just browsed the Reds and Marlins lineups. The Marlins have 2 hitters below .300 but everyone is above .290. The Reds aren't anywhere near that level. They really are stinking at the plate.

WOW!

Who'd of thunk it?

HeatherC1212
04-16-2010, 12:29 PM
At least the Reds didn't get beaten by the Astros today.

Quoted for truth. THAT is something I was truly afraid of happening later this month! I never want the Reds to be any team's first win of the year after several weeks, LOL :eek:

Props to anyone who made it through the game last night. I'm going out of town this weekend so I thought it would be better for me to pack and get ready for that trip than to watch my team get pummeled in last night's game. Time to kick some behind in Pittsburgh! :beerme: