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reds44
04-16-2010, 05:16 PM
Reds
Stubbs CF
Cabrera SS
Phillips 2B
Gomes LF
Cairo 1B
Bruce RF
Hanigan C
Janish 3B
Leake P

Pirates
Iwamura 2B
McCutchen CF
Milledge LF
Jones RF
Doumit C
Clement 1B
Laroche 3B
Duke P

Will M
04-16-2010, 05:18 PM
Reds
Stubbs CF
Cabrera SS
Phillips 2B
Gomes LF
Cairo 1B
Bruce RF
Hanigan C
Janish 3B
Leake P

Pirates
Iwamura 2B
McCutchen CF
Milledge LF
Jones RF
Doumit C
Clement 1B
Laroche 3B
Duke P

is this a joke or is this the real lineup?

flyer85
04-16-2010, 05:19 PM
the dugout dice come up with a winner

reds44
04-16-2010, 05:21 PM
Jerry Narron pinch hitting Juan Castro for Josh Hamilton thinks this is a dumb lineup.

reds44
04-16-2010, 05:26 PM
redreporter Players not in #Reds lineup and how they fared against Duke: Votto (.625/.667/.938), Rolen (.438/.444/.750), Hernandez (.571/.625/.571)

facepalm.

membengal
04-16-2010, 05:27 PM
Votto looked slow at the plate in the Florida series, a night off in the rain is not the worst idea I ever heard, nor giving Rolen a breather either.

Too early to get worked up, frankly. And some of these guys do need at-bats.

It may get rained out in any event.

RichRed
04-16-2010, 05:28 PM
This has to be because I posted the other day that I don't get worked up over the lineups any more. Sorry guys, my fault.

kbrake
04-16-2010, 05:33 PM
I was looking forward to sitting down, relaxing, and watching the game tonight. Guess I will start to look forward to tomorrow night. I know lineup complaining can get out of hand but thats absurd.

Razor Shines
04-16-2010, 05:37 PM
Jerry Narron pinch hitting Juan Castro for Josh Hamilton thinks this is a dumb lineup.

:laugh:

If they play this thing, I call Miggy Cairo going 3-5 with a HR and 4 RBIs.

nate
04-16-2010, 05:47 PM
That's quite a lineup.

reds44
04-16-2010, 05:49 PM
That's quite a lineup.
It'll score at least 6 runs. Watch.

11larkin11
04-16-2010, 05:52 PM
The only problem I have is Cairo so high.

Stubbs
Cabrera
Phillips
Gomes
Bruce
Hanigan
Janiah
Cairo

edabbs44
04-16-2010, 05:54 PM
Votto looked slow at the plate in the Florida series, a night off in the rain is not the worst idea I ever heard, nor giving Rolen a breather either.

Too early to get worked up, frankly. And some of these guys do need at-bats.

It may get rained out in any event.

Plus, Bruce has a career .591 OPS vs LHPs.

reds44
04-16-2010, 05:59 PM
Apparently Votto's back is hurting and he is ill, and Rolen is also ill. Both might be able to PH, but that's why they aren't in the lineup.

Still doesn't explain Cairo batting 5th.

edabbs44
04-16-2010, 06:01 PM
Apparently Votto's back is hurting and he is ill, and Rolen is also ill. Both might be able to PH, but that's why they aren't in the lineup.

Still doesn't explain Cairo batting 5th.

Toss up between Hanigan, Janish, Cairo and Bruce vs a lefty.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 06:09 PM
The forecast is not good tonight which may not be a bad thing with this lineup Dusty came up with:


Tonight: Showers and thunderstorms before 1am, then a slight chance of showers between 1am and 2am. Some of the storms could be severe. Low around 40. West northwest wind between 13 and 16 mph, with gusts as high as 28 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 06:18 PM
At least they moved Phillips up to the 3 hole. How is Cairo going to drive in runs when there is zero chance that there will be anyone on base? Unfair to Miguel.

LincolnparkRed
04-16-2010, 06:34 PM
Janish should bat 5th

reds44
04-16-2010, 06:35 PM
In all serious ness, this would probably be my lineup?
OC
Hanigan
Phillips
Gomes
Stubbs
Bruce
Janish
Cairo

Or you could flip Janish and Hanigan, or Janish and OC.

Will M
04-16-2010, 06:50 PM
from weather.com-

T-storms/wind endingShowers and thunderstorms becoming scattered around 7pm. Storms should end by early evening. Cloudy and windy. Temperatures steady or falling to near 58F. Winds W at 25 to 30 mph

sounds like Cairo may get a chance to strut his stuff

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 06:51 PM
From Fay:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/04/16/reds-lineup-vs-pirates/



“It’s different because we don’t have much choice,” Baker said. “We’ve got some sick guys here. You know Joey wants to face (Zach) Duke tonight with the numbers he has. Scott Rolen has numbers against Duke also.”

Are they available off the bench?

“I hope so,” Baker said.

TRF
04-16-2010, 07:08 PM
He's actually batting Janish in the right spot.

Of course he's playing 3rd....

forfreelin04
04-16-2010, 07:18 PM
From Fay:

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/2010/04/16/reds-lineup-vs-pirates/

They better have ate at the same Cuban deli in Miami.

Also if you can pinch hit.... you can play. This isn't football or soccer.

Understandbly these players are human, its a long season, but there are thousands of Americans that can't take a sick day. Most of which aren't getting paid like Votto or Rolen.

Hoosier Red
04-16-2010, 07:22 PM
They better have ate at the same Cuban deli in Miami.

Also if you can pinch hit.... you can play. This isn't football or soccer.

Understandbly these players are human, its a long season, but there are thousands of Americans that can't take a sick day. Most of which aren't getting paid like Votto or Rolen.

It's not about making them "earn" their money, it's about maximizing value over the course of the season. If they're sick, they shouldn't play. Get some meds in the training room and when we need you, whoever's not puking come on up and grab a bat.

NJReds
04-16-2010, 07:22 PM
I don't know if I've ever complained about a lineup before, but after looking at that I'm tempted to do a rain dance.

forfreelin04
04-16-2010, 07:27 PM
It's not about making them "earn" their money, it's about maximizing value over the course of the season. If they're sick, they shouldn't play. Get some meds in the training room and when we need you, whoever's not puking come on up and grab a bat.

I'd prefer they just left the locker room entirely. No sense in spreading the germs around the dugout or the training room for that matter.

It's not an earn your money thing with me necessarily. I just don't like Dusty's style. Only one player has played every inning this year and the Reds are just now starting their 4th series.

nate
04-16-2010, 07:32 PM
He's actually batting Janish in the right spot.

Of course he's playing 3rd....

Well, if the choices are Janish and O-Cab, I'd rather have Janish and his arm at 3rd.

Not ideal, no.

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 07:34 PM
That's quite a lineup.

Can't hurt anything this early can it?

I think that the Reds will win tonight. :thumbup:

disclaimer, if not rained out

Raisor
04-16-2010, 07:43 PM
Miguel Cairo, Power Hitter.

_Sir_Charles_
04-16-2010, 08:00 PM
At least they moved Phillips up to the 3 hole. How is Cairo going to drive in runs when there is zero chance that there will be anyone on base? Unfair to Miguel.

That was the first thing I noticed as well. I just don't care for him in the cleanup role. Nearly anywhere but there. As for the rest...:confused:

Matt700wlw
04-16-2010, 08:24 PM
Rain in Pittsburgh? This never happens...

RBA
04-16-2010, 08:27 PM
Adam Dunn run out of the Brewers/Nats game. Arguing strike call.

klw
04-16-2010, 08:35 PM
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=PBZ&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?region=day
It looks like the rain should be clearing Pittsburgh within the half hour.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 08:45 PM
Estimated start time 8:10

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:13 PM
And here we go

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:14 PM
Stubbs strikes out on a curve ball.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:14 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:15 PM
Now 13 strikeouts in 31 ABs for Stubbs

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Great AB from OC.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Cabrera singles to center. 6 game hit streak.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:17 PM
Phillips barely taps the ball right in front of the plate. It turns into a 2-6 FC.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:18 PM
Gomes grounds into a 6-4 FC. 0-0 mid 1st.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:22 PM
Iwamura lines a single to right.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:22 PM
Wow nice play by Bruce.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:23 PM
This looks familar.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:23 PM
McCutchen lines a single to right. 1st and 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:24 PM
Milledge bunts. Phillips is late covering first and the ball is thrown away. Error on Leake but that is really on Phillips. 1st and 3rd.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:25 PM
Uh, where was Phillips on that play?

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:25 PM
cairo at first was a good idea ... where the hell was he going

membengal
04-16-2010, 09:25 PM
Less than ideal.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:26 PM
cairo at first was a good idea ... where the hell was he going
That had nothing to do with Cairo.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:27 PM
Jones sac fly to left. 2-0 Pirates. They get the runner going to 2nd. 7-5-4.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:28 PM
What a throw by Bruce.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:28 PM
that was a great throw by Bruce

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Doumit lines a single to right but Bruce nails him going to 2nd. Leake was hit hard that inning. 2-0 Pirates after 1.

Ltlabner
04-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Greed + Great throw from Bruce = Mr. Poise getting his chestnuts pulled out of the fire

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:29 PM
That had nothing to do with Cairo.
the ball was bunted right to Leake and he didn't square that early, that is why it took Phillips longer to get to the bag. If Cairo reads the bunt he can easily get back to the bag

VR
04-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Jay Bruce with two bullets that inning...very nice.

CTA513
04-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Thats 2 bases Bruce took away in that inning.

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Bruce looked very good out there in the 1st. He also held Iwamura at 1st to lead off the game. Nice defense.

Leake only threw 13 pitches in the 1st...not fooling anyone.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Cairo bunts for a hit.

Hoosier Red
04-16-2010, 09:32 PM
Cairo bunts for a hit.

That my friends is irony.

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:32 PM
Bruce grounds into a 4-6 3....but beats it out at 1st.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:32 PM
Bruce won't be a good hitter until he quits getting himself out

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Bruce steals 2nd. He was about to be picked off but he beat it to 2nd. The throw from the first baseman was off the bag and that allowed Bruce to get to 2nd.

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Bruce steals 2nd on the pickoff throw...

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:34 PM
Hanigan lines out to left. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:36 PM
Janish walks. 1st and 2nd.

Raisor
04-16-2010, 09:36 PM
Janish walks. 1st and 2nd.

Paul Janish, offensive machine.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:38 PM
Leake grounds out off Duke's glove to the shortstop. 1-6-3. 2-0 Pirates mid 2nd.

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:38 PM
Leake loses the 1.000 batting average. Still looks good at the plate.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:40 PM
Clement grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:41 PM
LaRoche walks

Redsfan320
04-16-2010, 09:41 PM
Anybody else notice that in the top o' the 1st, the plate ump was wearing # 55 on his shirt sleeve, but then in the bott'm o' the 1st, he had on what was seemingly a sticker with the # 42 on his sleeve. :lol:.

320

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:45 PM
LaRoche somehow hurt himself going back to 1st and is coming out.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:47 PM
Duke sacrifices the runner to 2nd. 2 outs.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:47 PM
wow Cairo got back to the bag on that one ... amazing

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:48 PM
Infield hit for Cedeno. 1st and 3rd.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:48 PM
too bad Janish wasn't at SS

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:51 PM
Iwamura singles to center. 3-0 Pirates. 1st and 3rd.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:51 PM
Boy our pitching has been awful lately.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:52 PM
McCutchen lines out to center. 3-0 Pirates after2.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:52 PM
Boy our pitching has been awful lately.

it doesn't help when the SS can't make many plays

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:53 PM
Baseball is sure a funny game. That liner by McCutchen was the best hit ball of the inning, luckily right at Stubbs.

reds44
04-16-2010, 09:53 PM
it doesn't help when the SS can't make many plays
Not sure how that was OC's fault.

VR
04-16-2010, 09:53 PM
Boy our pitching has been awful lately.

and hitting

and fielding

and baserunning


Other than that.....



Hopefully they are getting it all out of their system in April.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 09:55 PM
Not sure how that was OC's fault.

Janish would have made the play. OC circled the ball and tried to make a jump throw, he should have backhanded and planted

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:55 PM
Not sure how that was OC's fault.

He had nothing on the throw....

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:55 PM
Stubbs draws a leadoff walk.

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:56 PM
and hitting

and fielding

and baserunning


Other than that.....



Hopefully they are getting it all out of their system in April.


you forgot one:

and managing.....

jojo
04-16-2010, 09:56 PM
What's that "P" on the mound all about? :P

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:57 PM
Cabrera grounds into a 6-4-3 DP.

Raisor
04-16-2010, 09:57 PM
What's that "P" on the mound all about? :P

Phantastic Pirates of Pittsburgh

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 09:57 PM
What's that "P" on the mound all about? :P

Pirates maybe???

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:57 PM
Phillips lines a single to left center.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 09:58 PM
Gomes flies out to the warning track in left. 3-0 Pirates mid 3rd.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:00 PM
Phantastic Pirates of Pittsburgh

Isn't it kinda like getting one of those "camaro" thingies to put on the windshield of your camaro though?

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:01 PM
Milledge singles to center.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:01 PM
What was that Cabrera?

VR
04-16-2010, 10:01 PM
That looked like Gomes playing shortstop. Sheesh.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:01 PM
Cabreras cement shoes on full display

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Hate to pile on here, but I am astounded how poor Cabrera is in the field. No range, no arm. Nothing.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:02 PM
What was that Cabrera?
what we've seen over the first 10 games ... no range

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Error on Cairo 1st and 2nd.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:02 PM
error by Cairo ... defense is beyond awful

bucksfan2
04-16-2010, 10:02 PM
Cabrera looked bad on that hit.

Good lord this team needs a break or twenty!

Ghosts of 1990
04-16-2010, 10:03 PM
I am so maddeningly frustrated with this entire group. I don't even have words anymore. I am so extremely disappointed in every phase of our team

VR
04-16-2010, 10:03 PM
That looked like a little girl playing 1st.


(no offense to little girls out there)

mbgrayson
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
error by Cairo ... defense is beyond awful

It was clearly an error, but the Bucs are hitting Leake HARD.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
Leake isn't being helped by Cabrera and Cairo AT ALL.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
Doumit strikes out swinging. 1 out.

bucksfan2
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
I am so maddeningly frustrated with this entire group. I don't even have words anymore. I am so extremely disappointed in every phase of our team

Couldn't have said it any better.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
That looked like a little girl playing 1st.


(no offense to little girls out there)

it was an easy DP ... nothing like making your pitcher throw a bunch of extra pitches

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:04 PM
I still don't get what Cairo brings to this team. I don't see a thing.

VR
04-16-2010, 10:07 PM
One small thing.....Leake at least works pretty quickly.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Pirates maybe???

That doesn't seem likely.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Cabrera is really reminding me of Dante Bichette when he came over here. I remember Dante hitting into a double play ball what seemed like 2 x per game. That was terrible and he was an instant inning killer.

bucksfan2
04-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Leake pitches better when in trouble it seems.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Clement strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:10 PM
Cabrera is really reminding me of Dante Bichette when he came over here. I remember Dante hitting into a double play ball what seemed like 2 x per game. That was terrible and he was an instant inning killer.

we knew OC was hacktastic on offense ... with his lack of range as a SS it's easy to see why teams passed in the off-season

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:10 PM
Crosby walks. 2nd walk of the game for Leake. Bases loaded.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:11 PM
Duke grounds out to 2nd. 3-0 Pirates after 3.

VR
04-16-2010, 10:11 PM
we knew OC was hacktastic on offense ... with his lack of range as a SS it's easy to see why teams passed in the off-season

It's brutal. Has he made a + play yet? I've only caught 3-4 games....and he's come nowhere near to any good plays.

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:12 PM
I still don't get what Cairo brings to this team. I don't see a thing.

While I detested the signing of Cairo and Cabrera, taking frustrations out on them while ignoring the fact that there is very little talent on this club is unfair. This club deficient in every baseball category. Welcome to last decade.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Cairo grounds out to 2nd.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Meet Miguel Cairo... Redszone's newest whipping boy :)


5694

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:15 PM
there is no reason Cairo should ever play 1b ... he is a 25th man

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:15 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging on a breaking pitch in the dirt.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:15 PM
There's alot of 42s tonight....

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:16 PM
Hanigan singles to right.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:16 PM
And Bruce waves. This team is in deap trouble.

How long till the hitting coach is 'relieved of his duties'

2 out hits. At least can't hit into the double play!

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:16 PM
there is no reason Cairo should ever play 1b ... he is a 25th man

I'd get use to it. I bet Votto's on the DL within the next 2 weeks.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:16 PM
Janish flies out to right on the first pitch. 3-0 Pirates mid 4th.

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:17 PM
There's alot of 42s tonight....

Again? Why?

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:17 PM
wonder if Beckham could play SS better than Cabrera

Brutus
04-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Again? Why?

Jackie Robinson.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Again? Why?The Pirates were off yesterday so they are doing their Jackie Robinson night tonight.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Can Cabrera play 3rd base? Just asking here. It looked to me like last night both Rolen and Votto were injured.

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:19 PM
There's alot of 42s tonight....

Reds batting averages or uniform numbers ? :lol:

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:19 PM
Cedeno singles to center.

VR
04-16-2010, 10:19 PM
And Bruce waves. This team is in deap trouble.

How long till the hitting coach is 'relieved of his duties'

2 out hits. At least can't hit into the double play!

He was flat out guessing on strike 2....he started his swing as Duke was releasing the ball.

That silly leg kick needs to go and allow himself a good solid base.

Where's the hitting coach? Bruce looks like a high schooler out there.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:19 PM
Can Cabrera play 3rd base? Just asking here. It looked to me like last night both Rolen and Votto were injured.They are both out with the flu tonight.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:21 PM
How long till the hitting coach is 'relieved of his duties'

Bryan Price probably needs to be fired too 'cuz he can't figure out Harang. :cool:

VR
04-16-2010, 10:21 PM
Great play be Leake. I like his athleticism.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:21 PM
Iwamura grounds into a 1-6-3 DP.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:21 PM
Cairo is bad.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:22 PM
They are both out with the flu tonight.

Everyone knows not to eat the sausage or drink the water in Pittsburgh...

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:22 PM
Jackie Robinson.

But why again? It doesn't seem like other teams are doing it again tonight.

And does anyone know the story behind Robinson and 42? Did he choose it for a reason, or was it just given to him randomly?

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:22 PM
And Bruce waves. This team is in deap trouble.

How long till the hitting coach is 'relieved of his duties'

!get some hitters instead of hackers

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:23 PM
wonder if Beckham could play SS better than Cabrera

I was wondering if Hernandez can play first better than Cairo.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:23 PM
He was flat out guessing on strike 2....he started his swing as Duke was releasing the ball.

That silly leg kick needs to go and allow himself a good solid base.

Where's the hitting coach? Bruce looks like a high schooler out there.

He guesses a lot. I haven't looked at his career splits, but the visual test to me is he shouldn't hit against lefties. Just throws his bat out there and if bat finds ball, it might find grass in the outfield.

This team can't be THAT bad. Can it? Seems like pretty close to worst case scenerio to me (besides .500 record).

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:23 PM
McCutchen walks. 3 walks by Leake

VR
04-16-2010, 10:23 PM
:)Even McCutcheon thought ball 4 was a strike

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:24 PM
It's impossible to tell McCutchen and Milledge apart tonight.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:24 PM
Why do I dislike Lastings Milledge so much? I barely know thee.

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:25 PM
But why again? It doesn't seem like other teams are doing it again tonight.

And does anyone know the story behind Robinson and 42? Did he choose it for a reason, or was it just given to him randomly?

I think Fanatic has the answer, but this whole 42 thing has really run its course and needs to fade away like Jackie.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:26 PM
Milledge grounds back to Leake. 3-0 Pirates after 4.

Ghosts of 1990
04-16-2010, 10:27 PM
Ok it's official I've lost all faith in Jay Bruce. This slump has taken a life of it's own and it feels and looks like he will never truly hit again. It might be time to go to Louisville

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:27 PM
The score is within a fieldgoal.... the sky isn't really falling.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:28 PM
Leake is awesome lol

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:28 PM
Leake singles to left center. Now 3 for 4.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:29 PM
I'm pretty sure Leake is a better hitter than 3 or 4 position players

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Ok it's official I've lost all faith in Jay Bruce. This slump has taken a life of it's own and it feels and looks like he will never truly hit again. It might be time to go to Louisville

Why don't they just give the kid a couple days off, it is not like they will be losing any offense right at the moment. Might help, might not.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Leake singles to left center. Now 3 for 4.

Can he also play a position when he isn't pitching?

Superdude
04-16-2010, 10:29 PM
can leake play shortstop?

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:30 PM
Stubbs grounds into a 6-4 FC.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:30 PM
get a runner on, bang one to short or 2nd. What is wrong with these guys? No energy, nothing.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Stubbs needs to be running here to try to get something going.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Would have been ironic if Dusty had Stubbs bunt Leake over there.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Cabrera grounds into another 6-4-3 DP. 3-0 Pirates mid 5th.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
hmmmm......

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
I wonder if OC could finish the year with more GIDPs than BBs

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:31 PM
Cabrera better just give it up. Ground into another easy double play to short. This guy IS Dante Bichette.

BoydsOfSummer
04-16-2010, 10:32 PM
Christ...is Cabrera that slow or did he fall out of the box?

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:32 PM
But why again? It doesn't seem like other teams are doing it again tonight.

And does anyone know the story behind Robinson and 42? Did he choose it for a reason, or was it just given to him randomly?

They said it was just there hanging at his locker and that was the number they just gave him. They did it for the teams that had the day off before when the other teams were doing the 42.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:32 PM
Bat Dickerson and Stubbs 1st and 2nd dusty. Do it.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:33 PM
Christ...is Cabrera that slow or did he fall out of the box?That was ridiculous the 2nd baseman bobbled the ball at 2nd and still it was not even close at first. Cabrera was not half way down the line.

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:33 PM
Cabrera better just give it up. Ground into another easy double play to short. This guy IS Dante Bichette.

He's flippin slow or dogging it, your call.

Cyclone792
04-16-2010, 10:33 PM
This offense is an absolute diaster altogether. It's just painful to watch.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:33 PM
Calling a DP a BP is funny and works. Not sure how to make calling it an OC work.

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Christ...is Cabrera that slow or did he fall out of the box?

:bowrofl:

reminds me of Browns wide receivers. :)

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Leake has settled down nicely.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Jones grounds out to 2nd.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
They said it was just there hanging at his locker and that was the number they just gave him. They did it for the teams that had the day off before when the other teams were doing the 42.

Thanks. A fountain of information. :)

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
Bat Dickerson and Stubbs 1st and 2nd dusty. Do it.

Gotta do something. I'd put Dickerson up at the top every day but put stubbs down at 7 or 8. These last 3 games have been ridiculously bad. Does anyone have any faith that this team will score more than 3 runs tonight to win this game?

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:34 PM
That was ridiculous the 2nd baseman bobbled the ball at 2nd and still it was not even close at first. Cabrera was not half way down the line.

Dusty will take care of it.... of crap, he can't bench EE as an example to the veterans anymore...

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:35 PM
Doumit grounds out to 1st.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:36 PM
This offense is an absolute diaster altogether. It's just painful to watch.

I think if you spotted this lineup a 4-0 lead, and Leake pitched a shutout, they would still lose.

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:36 PM
can leake play shortstop?

Janish can. :eek:

Mario-Rijo
04-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Dusty will take care of it.... of crap, he can't bench EE as an example to the veterans anymore...

It'll just get Dusty canned, so at least there's that.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Clement grounds out to 1st. 3-0 Pirates after 5.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:36 PM
Gotta do something. I'd put Dickerson up at the top every day but put stubbs down at 7 or 8. These last 3 games have been ridiculously bad. Does anyone have any faith that this team will score more than 3 runs tonight to win this game?I am not sure this lineup could score 3 runs in a week.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:37 PM
Jeff Clement just looks like a ballplayer.... Bavasi's kind of guy...

Spring~Fields
04-16-2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks. A fountain of information. :)
YW
Thought I owed you, after all the stupid questions I have asked you. :devil:

klw
04-16-2010, 10:38 PM
can leake play shortstop?

Not while he is pitching. Only Coombs can do that.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:38 PM
Phillips grounds out to short on a nice play by Cedeno.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:39 PM
Cabrera wouldn't have come with 10 feet of making that play on BP, Cedeno made it look easy

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:39 PM
If you can't hit you had better play defense like Cedeno. (note to OC)

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:39 PM
Gomes doubles off the wall in center.

Kc61
04-16-2010, 10:40 PM
Gomes doubles to centerfield. Would be shocked if he makes it to third.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:40 PM
I wonder if Gomes can score from second on a nubber form Cairo?

CrackerJack
04-16-2010, 10:41 PM
Ok it's official I've lost all faith in Jay Bruce. This slump has taken a life of it's own and it feels and looks like he will never truly hit again. It might be time to go to Louisville

He's reminding me of Austin Kearns

Tom Servo
04-16-2010, 10:42 PM
Doumit grounds out to 1st.
GOD Doumit!

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:43 PM
Cairo gronds out to 3rd. Good play by Crosby. Gomes goes to 3rd.

HokieRed
04-16-2010, 10:44 PM
Success! Gomes made it to third.

Kc61
04-16-2010, 10:44 PM
Gomes makes it to third. Two outs. Nice play by Crosby at third.

Reds have hit some impressive slow grounders tonight but can't get a break.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:44 PM
Bruce grounds out to 1st. 3-0 Pirates mid 6th.

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:44 PM
It's always fascinated me that a guy could make it to the major leagues and have such little pop in his bat... (Cairo)

Kc61
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Bruce with a slow grounder. Close play but out.

Another slow grounder that doesn't pan out for the Reds.

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
bruce has no chance against LHP

Ghosts of 1990
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Bruce.....

jojo
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
The Pirates D looks pretty good

alloverjr
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Collective embarassment.

forfreelin04
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Have you ever seen Ashton Kutcher in "Death by Chocolate"

Well replace Chocolate with "Lefties" for Jay Bruce

BoydsOfSummer
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Gomes = Best player on the team

There, I said it.

TheNext44
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
He's reminding me of Austin Kearns

So Adam Dunn has a crush on Jay Bruce?

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:45 PM
It's always fascinated me that a guy could make it to the major leagues and have such little pop in his bat... (Cairo)
he's a winner ... or he plays the game the right way.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:46 PM
It's always fascinated me that a guy could make it to the major leagues and have such little pop in his bat... (Cairo)

But he has played on winners. I wish he would bring some of his teammates along with him so we could have fun too.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:47 PM
Gomes = Best player on the team

There, I said it.

Hi Boyd, Thank you for joining our meeting. I have the same problem.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:47 PM
Crosby walks. 4 walks by Leake

VR
04-16-2010, 10:47 PM
Umps resolved to not give Leake any close pitches tonight.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:47 PM
Duke sacrifices the runner to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:48 PM
Nice play by Janish starts a 5-4-6 FC.

Always Red
04-16-2010, 10:48 PM
He's reminding me of Austin Kearns

scary, and hopefully not true.

Neither have shown the ability to adjust. Bruce swings at more balls than anyone in the league, I'd bet.

For the record, Kearns had 2 more hits tonight and is at .333 for the young season.

VR
04-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Great play be Janish.....wow

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Nice play by Janish there. I really cannot get over hold old Cabrera looks out there. He looks elderly in the field, compared to his younger competition on the other side.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
OC looks like he's 90 years old.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
Iwamura walks. 5 walks.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
What's up with all the walks from Leake?

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:50 PM
Five walks for Leake tonight. Wow. Thought the first outing was just jitters. But these are the PIRATES!

flyer85
04-16-2010, 10:51 PM
BTW, Cabrera currently has the rare feat of having a BA higher than his OBP

BoydsOfSummer
04-16-2010, 10:51 PM
Leake walks as much as Adam Dunn. ;)

HokieRed
04-16-2010, 10:51 PM
Cabrera looked old when I saw him last year in Oakland. I can't believe he fooled our FO.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
OC looks like he's 90 years old.

Just too old to play short on a team that we hoped would be winning and contending in the division. It's really not even close and I give kudos to the wise people who saw this mess coming. Slow bat and wheels = train wreck.

Superdude
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
is he picking or just missing targets? this is daniel cabrera-esque for a guy that's supposed to have borderline plus-plus control

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
How many pitches for Leake?

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Nice pitch. McCutchen strikes out swinging. 3 Ks. 3-0 Pirates after 6.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:52 PM
Cabrera looked old when I saw him last year in Oakland. I can't believe he fooled our FO.

Maybe they were in bed too when he was playing? LOL.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:53 PM
How many pitches for Leake?92 pitches

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:53 PM
is he picking or just missing targets? this is daniel cabrera-esque for a guy that's supposed to have borderline plus-plus control
Probably a mix a both, I owuld guess. He's pitched around them with realtive ease in both of his starts.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:53 PM
92 pitches
You know Dusty is putting him out there for another inning.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:54 PM
Probably a mix a both, I owuld guess. He's pitched around them with realtive ease in both of his starts.

he doesn't look bad. pounding the lower zone. Just off the plate and the ump isn't giving any borderline strikes tonight. If the other team puts in in play to Cabera's right or left, we're in trouble. ;)

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:55 PM
Hanigan flies out to center.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:55 PM
Janish flies out to 1st on the first pitch.

reds44
04-16-2010, 10:55 PM
he doesn't look bad. pounding the lower zone. Just off the plate and the ump isn't giving any borderline strikes tonight. If the other team puts in in play to Cabera's right or left, we're in trouble. ;)
Leake's the least of the Reds problems right now.

Kc61
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
My guess is Leake is about done. Another pretty good outing.

Two outs for the Reds.

Glad the FO didn't emphasize offense this past winter.

Always Red
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
You know Dusty is putting him out there for another inning.

Leake should be back out there- he's low effort, like Arroyo.

Bullpen needs a break.

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
Leake grounds out to Duke. 3-0 Pirates mid 7th.

Virginia Beach Reds
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
Reds make soft tosser Duke look like Greg Maddux. I sincerely hope this little stretch is no indication of a prolonged period. If so, hello Astros!

Reds Fanatic
04-16-2010, 10:56 PM
Duke is through 7 on only 84 pitches