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OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 12:32 PM
Louisville is currently underway and has a 3-1 lead after five innings.

Matt Maloney: 5 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 BB, 7 K. For some reason he was pulled after five innings with only 76 pitches.

GOYA
04-21-2010, 12:40 PM
Maloney was pulled because of a blister.

Your thread, OBM

GOYA
04-21-2010, 12:42 PM
Burke, C LF
Heisey RF
Dorn 1B
Francisco, J 3B
Cozart SS 2
Valaika 2B 2
Balentien DH
Castillo, W C
Anderson, J CF

Heisey 2 for 3
Valaika 2 for 2

Still no Frazier

GOYA
04-21-2010, 12:44 PM
Valaika now 3 for 3 with a double

GOYA
04-21-2010, 01:00 PM
Still 3-1 Bats after 7

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 01:02 PM
Valaika is off to a great start this season.

Why hasn't Frazier played in the last few days?

GOYA
04-21-2010, 01:15 PM
Dorn and Cisco both single to lead off the bottom of the 8th

GOYA
04-21-2010, 01:16 PM
Cozart walks to load 'em.

No word on Frazier

GOYA
04-21-2010, 01:28 PM
Bats get nothing from a bases loaded and nobody out situation.

Valaika FC
Balentien K
Castillo K

Adkins in for the save

GOYA
04-21-2010, 01:29 PM
Bats win 3-1

batsfan
04-21-2010, 01:32 PM
Cozart walks to load 'em.

No word on Frazier

Last night they said that frazier had a sore wrist, but x-rays were okay.

membengal
04-21-2010, 01:35 PM
Valaika is off to a great start this season.

Why hasn't Frazier played in the last few days?

Vision quest to find his inner bat.

mace
04-21-2010, 01:39 PM
Carlos Fisher has been awfully sharp.

JKam
04-21-2010, 01:42 PM
Considering how rough the Reds' bullpen performance has been so far this season, how serious a prospect is Adkins?

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 01:42 PM
Carlos Fisher has been awfully sharp.

Yep, after today his season stats stand at 8 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB/8 K. We could see him in Cincy sometime soon.

GOYA
04-21-2010, 02:03 PM
Considering how rough the Reds' bullpen performance has been so far this season, how serious a prospect is Adkins?

He's not a prospect at all. He's a first rate journeyman though.

TRF
04-21-2010, 02:13 PM
The K's from Maloney are right in line with his career. Anyone got GO/AO numbers for this game?

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 02:18 PM
The K's from Maloney are right in line with his career. Anyone got GO/AO numbers for this game?

2 GO/5 GO. He entered the game with a 2.80 GO/FO ratio.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 02:23 PM
Matt Maloney's updated 2010 stats:

16.2 IP, 15 H, 0 HR, 2 BB/22 K, 2.16 ERA, 1.45 GO/FO

Gotta love the BB/K ratio and no home runs allowed.

TRF
04-21-2010, 02:27 PM
Matt Maloney's updated 2010 stats:

16.2 IP, 15 H, 0 HR, 2 BB/22 K, 2.16 ERA, 1.45 GO/FO

Gotta love the BB/K ratio and no home runs allowed.

Its almost like he's becoming a better pitcher in the minors, like he's developing or something.

I wonder how many 5+ BB games the Reds will allow Leake to have before Maloney gets a shot. Or if he'll be packaged before then.

OnBaseMachine
04-21-2010, 02:30 PM
I wonder how many 5+ BB games the Reds will allow Leake to have before Maloney gets a shot. Or if he'll be packaged before then.

Leake has been the Reds best starter so far (13.2 IP, 11 H, 0 HR, 2.63 ERA). Obviously the walks have been a problem so far but they never bothered him in the past. I don't think we'll see him walk too many hitters once he gets settled in.

Benihana
04-21-2010, 02:41 PM
Its almost like he's becoming a better pitcher in the minors, like he's developing or something.

I wonder how many 5+ ER games the Reds will allow Bailey to have before Maloney gets a shot. Or if he'll be packaged before then.

Fixed that for you.

membengal
04-21-2010, 03:27 PM
Its almost like he's becoming a better pitcher in the minors, like he's developing or something.

I wonder how many 5+ BB games the Reds will allow Leake to have before Maloney gets a shot. Or if he'll be packaged before then.

There are other pitchers they need to move out of Maloney's way before you get to Leake.

TRF
04-21-2010, 04:09 PM
Yeah, but Homer is out of options. And he's going to be tough to move. Leake has options.

But 2-3 more starts like this one and Maloney's value will be at an all time high. Whether that be as a Red or a piece for the next player to don the Reds jersey.

GIDP
04-21-2010, 04:11 PM
Leakes about the only guy on the I want to keep pitching. The fact that hes walking guys after being so good with control in college and the limited pro innings is something I can almost completely look past.

membengal
04-21-2010, 04:40 PM
Frankly, if Bailey doesn't put it together soon, bullpen should be his next point of call, in my opinion.

Mario-Rijo
04-21-2010, 05:59 PM
Frankly, if Bailey doesn't put it together soon, bullpen should be his next point of call, in my opinion.

Very logical, probably happens before the end of the summer.

GOYA
04-21-2010, 06:18 PM
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Burke LF 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 .167
Heisey RF 4 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 .231
Dorn 1B 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .289
Francisco 3B 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .077
Cozart SS 3 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 .288
Valaika 2B 4 1 3 1 0 0 1 0 0 .375
Balentien DH 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000
Castillo C 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .182
Anderson CF 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .067

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Maloney (W, 3-0) 5.0 4 1 1 0 7 0 2.16
Del Rosario (H, 3) 2.0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2.16
Fisher (H, 4) 1.0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0.00
Adkins (S, 4) 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 4.50

muddie
04-21-2010, 06:30 PM
The Mudcats are rained out for tonight and will play two tomorrow.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 07:55 PM
The way Maloney is pitching... How stupid does that Maloney/Alonso/Francisco/Hannigan for Posey suggestion look now? Really don't think the Giants would just hang the phone up on that one...

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:01 PM
The way Maloney is pitching... How stupid does that Maloney/Alonso/Francisco/Hannigan for Posey suggestion look now? Really don't think the Giants would just hang the phone up on that one...

It would be impossible to make that trade. You would be trading 4 guys on the 40 man roster for 1. No way a deal like that ever goes down.

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:02 PM
Lynchburg lost game 1, 9-1.


Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Fellhauer LF 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .255
Buchholz 3B 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .256
Soto DH 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .268
Mendez, C 1B 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 .293
Mesoraco C 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .303
Sappelt CF 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .279
Puckett 2B 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .267
Rojas SS 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .367
Reed, J RF 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .042

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Partch (L, 1-2) 4.0 5 5 3 1 2 0 3.21
Gaffney 1.0 2 2 2 1 0 0 12.60
Jeffords 1.0 3 2 2 0 1 0 8.31

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Dayton is tied at 1. Byron Wiley has a solo HR.

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:10 PM
Lyncburg trailing 1-0 in the first after a chopped single, steal where the throw goes into the outfield and a pop up that just missed Rojas's glove (the announcer wasn't sure if it was going to be an error or not - it wasn't).

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:12 PM
Dayton takes a lead on a Frank Pfister double that plates a run.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 08:12 PM
It would be impossible to make that trade. You would be trading 4 guys on the 40 man roster for 1. No way a deal like that ever goes down.

So outside of the 40 man issue (which I forgot about regarding Alonso), do you think the talent balance of the trade is equal?

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:21 PM
So outside of the 40 man issue (which I forgot about regarding Alonso), do you think the talent balance of the trade is equal?

Not really. Alonso is the only 'every day guy' in the trade on the Reds side. Posey is thought of higher and plays defense at a premium position.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 08:34 PM
Not really. Alonso is the only 'every day guy' in the trade on the Reds side. Posey is thought of higher and plays defense at a premium position.

I'm with you there as far as the premium position suggestion... That being said, we did just see a team get rid of Carlos Santana for a 1/2 season of Casey Blake... So it's not absurd...

Maloney would be an instant upgrade over Wellenmyer today, and could probably stick long-term and have a decent career as a 3/4 arm in SF (favorable ballpark)...
Francisco and Alonso gives them a chance to develop 2 decent bats, and they really don't have anything in the way of 1b or OF prospects IIRC... I could also see them viewing Francisco as being comparable potentially to Sandoval...
Finally, it's not like Hanigan is a worthless catcher... He's solid defensively, and cheap.

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:35 PM
I'm with you there as far as the premium position suggestion... That being said, we did just see a team get rid of Carlos Santana for a 1/2 season of Casey Blake... So it's not absurd...

Maloney would be an instant upgrade over Wellenmyer today, and could probably stick long-term and have a decent career as a 3/4 arm in SF (favorable ballpark)...
Francisco and Alonso gives them a chance to develop 2 decent bats, and they really don't have anything in the way of 1b or OF prospects IIRC... I could also see them viewing Francisco as being comparable potentially to Sandoval...
Finally, it's not like Hanigan is a worthless catcher... He's solid defensively, and cheap.

At the end of the day though, only Alonso looks to be a good bet to play every day (though I think Hanigan could, I don't know if he is ever going to get that chance for some reason).

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 08:38 PM
JC Sulbaran - 6ip, 4h, 1er, 1bb, 8K. Dayton up 2-1.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 08:39 PM
At the end of the day though, only Alonso looks to be a good bet to play every day (though I think Hanigan could, I don't know if he is ever going to get that chance for some reason).

At their current rate... are you sure Posey is ever gonna get that chance? lol... Couldn't believe how they handled him last season...

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 09:01 PM
Brad Boxberger has allowed 3 unearned runs in the first 3 innings. Lynchburg trails 3-2 in the 4th.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 09:01 PM
JC Sulbaran - 6ip, 4h, 1er, 1bb, 8K. Dayton up 2-1.

nice bounce-back outing...

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 09:07 PM
Henry Rodriguez with a HR (3) gives Dayton a 5-1 lead.

Lynchburg is trailing 4-2.

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 09:21 PM
Brad Boxbergers final line


Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Boxberger 4.0 6 4 1 1 4 0 1.93

GIDP
04-21-2010, 09:24 PM
JC Sulbaran - 6ip, 4h, 1er, 1bb, 8K. Dayton up 2-1.

Is this his best start ever?

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 09:32 PM
Is this his best start ever?

Looks like it. He had three games with 8 or 9 strikeouts last season, but he allowed 3, 4 and 1 run in those games and none reached the 6th inning.

dougdirt
04-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Dayton won 5-2.


Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Feiner DH 4 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 .250
Rodriguez 2B 3 1 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 .262
Means RF 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364
Wiley LF 3 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 .196
Richburg 1B 4 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 .275
Contreras, E CF 4 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .206
Pfister 3B 4 0 2 1 0 0 2 0 1 .268
Carlson, S SS 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .208
Wideman C 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250

Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Sulbaran (W, 2-0) 6.0 4 1 1 1 8 0 3.94
Walker (H, 1) 2.0 3 1 1 0 3 0 6.08
Christiani (S, 1) 1.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.93

SMcGavin
04-21-2010, 09:47 PM
Matt Maloney's updated 2010 stats:

16.2 IP, 15 H, 0 HR, 2 BB/22 K, 2.16 ERA, 1.45 GO/FO

Gotta love the BB/K ratio and no home runs allowed.

That is a ridiculous statline. Have to think he'll get another shot in the bigs before too long.

mth123
04-21-2010, 09:55 PM
That is a ridiculous statline. Have to think he'll get another shot in the bigs before too long.

Seems to be on the same schedule as Harang.

SMcGavin
04-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Seems to be on the same schedule as Harang.

Yeah, but I am not completely sold he gets the promotion ahead of Wood or Chapman. It will be interesting to see how the Reds handle that. I'd be pretty surprised if Leake lasted the whole year in the rotation, so there could be spots opening from multiple angles.

GIDP
04-21-2010, 10:28 PM
Looks like it. He had three games with 8 or 9 strikeouts last season, but he allowed 3, 4 and 1 run in those games and none reached the 6th inning.

Yea I thought so. I didnt follow him late last year that closely because well baseball season can be rough, but its good to see him finally put together a seemingly complete outing.

GIDP
04-21-2010, 10:30 PM
Yeah, but I am not completely sold he gets the promotion ahead of Wood or Chapman. It will be interesting to see how the Reds handle that. I'd be pretty surprised if Leake lasted the whole year in the rotation, so there could be spots opening from multiple angles.

I dont know how you dont bring him up before Wood and Chapman if he keeps pitching even remotely like that. A sub 3 ERA gets you recalled especially if you arent walking people.

Will M
04-21-2010, 10:35 PM
i think Wood could benefit from a little more AAA time. Maloney has 2+ years in AAA. i really don't see what purpose there is in keeping him there.

#1 Maloney replaces Harang in the rotation

#2 guys like Bailey & Cueto are quietly told that their rotation spots are NOT guaranteed for the entire season. tell them that when Chapman or Wood are ready one or both of them will lose their rotation spots if they (Bailey/Cueto)continue to pitch like they have. light a little fire under their you know whats. this ain't a C league softball team. guys are lining up in AAA to challenge them for their jobs.

REDblooded
04-21-2010, 10:36 PM
lol... could the Reds go from a no lefty rotation to a 3 lefty rotation? funny thought...

HokieRed
04-21-2010, 10:47 PM
lol... could the Reds go from a no lefty rotation to a 3 lefty rotation? funny thought...


I've been thinking this lately too. We've all sort of assumed that Bailey, Cueto, and probably Volquez would be part of future rotations, but we may have gotten it all wrong. I could see a 2011 rotation of TOR guy to be brought in, Chapman, Leake, Wood, and Maloney--giving us Bailey, Cueto, Volquez and Arroyo to get something for if possible.

SMcGavin
04-22-2010, 08:50 AM
I dont know how you dont bring him up before Wood and Chapman if he keeps pitching even remotely like that. A sub 3 ERA gets you recalled especially if you arent walking people.

I couldn't agree more. But Maloney dominated AAA last year and it took quite a while for him to get the call. And despite those dominating minor league numbers and a decent showing in MLB last year, he was at least 7th on the rotation pecking order this spring. I don't think the Reds front office is sold on him at all.

GIDP
04-22-2010, 08:57 AM
I couldn't agree more. But Maloney dominated AAA last year and it took quite a while for him to get the call. And despite those dominating minor league numbers and a decent showing in MLB last year, he was at least 7th on the rotation pecking order this spring. I don't think the Reds front office is sold on him at all.

Was he on the 40 man last year before he got the call up?

camisadelgolf
04-22-2010, 09:48 AM
Was he on the 40 man last year before he got the call up?
Yes. And for the record, you must be on a 40-man roster to play in MLB.

GIDP
04-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Yes. And for the record, you must be on a 40-man roster to play in MLB.

You have to be on the 40 man roster to play in the majors? No way you don't say? What are you trying to suggest that I didnt know you have to be on the 40 man roster?

camisadelgolf
04-22-2010, 01:22 PM
You have to be on the 40 man roster to play in the majors? No way you don't say? What are you trying to suggest that I didnt know you have to be on the 40 man roster?
No need for the attitude. Anyway, he was put on the 40-man roster in the off-season before 2009.

GIDP
04-22-2010, 04:44 PM
No need for the attitude. Anyway, he was put on the 40-man roster in the off-season before 2009.

There really wasnt attitude more amazement that you could misunderstand what I was asking.

thank you for answering my question though.

camisadelgolf
04-22-2010, 05:28 PM
There really wasnt attitude more amazement that you could misunderstand what I was asking.

thank you for answering my question though.
I'm amazed at how dumb some of the questions on this site have been--not that your question was dumb.

GIDP
04-22-2010, 06:23 PM
I'm amazed at how dumb some of the questions on this site have been--not that your question was dumb.

Trust me I know how dumb some questions can be. Ive been in the sundeck for way too long.