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GIDP
04-21-2010, 05:43 PM
Zambrano to bullpen starting Friday. "Because of his stuff" Lou sez. Z is cool with move.

http://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/12596379217

No joke I think Lou is probably worse than Dusty. I watch Cubs games and seriously question almost everything Lou does.

2009: $17.75 million, 2010: $17.85 million, 2011: $17.85, 2012: $18 million, 2013: $19.25 million vesting option (could be player option), 2014: Free Agent

How that and Sorianos contract looking. EEK

mroby85
04-21-2010, 05:44 PM
This can't be true, he's on my fantasy team! lol

GIDP
04-21-2010, 05:46 PM
Oh its true

brm7675
04-21-2010, 05:49 PM
Hell at least Lou is trying to shake up the team, not ole Dusty, he just keeps things the same and with the same results. Man I hope he is a better father then he is a baseball manager....:confused:


http://twitter.com/PWSullivan/status/12596379217

No joke I think Lou is probably worse than Dusty. I watch Cubs games and seriously question almost everything Lou does.

2009: $17.75 million, 2010: $17.85 million, 2011: $17.85, 2012: $18 million, 2013: $19.25 million vesting option (could be player option), 2014: Free Agent

How that and Sorianos contract looking. EEK

FlyerFanatic
04-21-2010, 05:49 PM
Hell at least Lou is trying to shake up the team, not ole Dusty, he just keeps things the same and with the same results. Man I hope he is a better father then he is a baseball manager....:confused:

think thats exactly what it is. lou is in his final year of contract i believe, cubs off to a terrible start, trying to get his team on track anyway he can

GIDP
04-21-2010, 05:53 PM
Lou says move of Z to bullpen may not be temporary. "This makes all the sense in the world."

Kingspoint
04-21-2010, 06:15 PM
If it's good enough for Zambrano, then why not Harang?

They're different cases, of course.

Harang starts tonight. I still think he'll turn it around come June.

So, I'm not for moving him to the bullpen. I'm for dumping him if he doesn't get it turned around by the 1st Week of June.

berryluther
04-21-2010, 06:19 PM
Good Zambrano = Steroids

Bad Zambrano = No Steroids

Kingspoint
04-21-2010, 06:26 PM
I love Lou.

He can be my Manager anytime.

defender
04-21-2010, 06:54 PM
I like Zambrano, and think he could be a great set up man out of the pen. Ted Lily will be coming back soon, so he will replace him in the rotation. I don't think the Cubs have any options for the pen, but with Lily coming back, have 5 other decent starters. Of course that is counting Silva and Gorzelanny.

davereds24
04-21-2010, 07:08 PM
Good move from Lou, this won't last more than a few weeks but I'd be willing to bet Zambrano comes back as a better pitcher.

ian_madden
04-22-2010, 02:38 AM
Well Thats a wasted pick!!!!!!!!

Kingspoint
04-23-2010, 05:03 AM
Wakefield's going to the bullpen, too.

No reason why Harang can't go to the bullpen until he fixes his problem.

Why continue to let him destroy games for the REDS? We're used to it though with Patterson and Taveras. These Veterans who get playing time that's unmerited gets really old.

scott91575
04-23-2010, 10:54 AM
If it's good enough for Zambrano, then why not Harang?

They're different cases, of course.

Harang starts tonight. I still think he'll turn it around come June.

So, I'm not for moving him to the bullpen. I'm for dumping him if he doesn't get it turned around by the 1st Week of June.

The difference is Ted Lilly is coming back for the Cubs. The Reds won't have anyone to replace Harang until June when Wood/Chapman avoid super 2 arbitration. They are already taking a risk with Leake, but that was out of necessity. They will live with Harang until June to save some cash (especially with Chapman who has arbitration clauses in his contract that make it even worse).

I guess you could throw Owings in the starting lineup again. Yet they will give Harang a couple more starts before that happens.

arkimadee
05-08-2010, 06:24 PM
I CANNOT BELIEVE the Cubs have pulled him out of the rotation after a few bad starts. I'm not sad about it because more often than not he put it to the reds when he played them. The guy has some of the best stuff in the majors. I think a few more starts and he would have gotten everything straigtened out. Looking at some of the Cubs message boards, it looks as if they are getting fed up with Lou as well. What do you all think?

GIDP
05-08-2010, 06:30 PM
I think its stupid also but then again the Cubs bullpen is really awful so maybe they are just trying to fix the biggest weakness.

arkimadee
05-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I think its stupid also but then again the Cubs bullpen is really awful so maybe they are just trying to fix the biggest weakness.
Yeah I guess. But it seems to me they could have moved Dempster or someone to the bullpen.. It just seems to me he makes way to much money to be a reliever. But who knows. I see the point that if you want someone to protect your lead, it would get no better than him in a bullpen.

malcontent
05-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Yeah I guess. But it seems to me they could have moved Dempster or someone to the bullpen.
I agree it was a bad move and that Dempster made more sense.

It seemed to me to be Piniella's way of expressing his unhappiness with Zambrano.

kfm
05-08-2010, 11:34 PM
I think it was a bad move. But why would you move Dempster who has pitched well out of the rotation?

Griffey012
05-08-2010, 11:53 PM
As long as it is a short term move, it's not necessarily a bad one. The Cubs rotation was pitching well and the bullpen was blowing it. And at the time everyone was basically lights out except Big Z. Lilly was coming back so they replace Z with another good starter. Lou is trying to fill a BIG gaping hole for the short term before it is already too late by the time they acquire some pen help.

arkimadee
05-09-2010, 12:39 AM
They brought him in tonight with the bases loaded and nobody out and pretty much fed him to the wolves.. I'm not saying Dempster should have went to the bullpen, I'm just saying there has to be someone in the rotation that would have worked better than Zambrano. Either way I'm happy for the Reds sake with the decision.