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SidneySlicker
05-01-2010, 12:28 PM
Per J. Fay
lineup: Stubbs 8, Phillips 4, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Bruce 9, Cabrera 6, Nix 7, Hanigan 2, Bailey RHP

bgwilly31
05-01-2010, 12:31 PM
hanigan in there today!

Very nice. :thumbup:

SidneySlicker
05-01-2010, 12:34 PM
Yeah it's gonna be very hard to keep hannigan out of the lineup with the way he's hitting.

The Voice of IH
05-01-2010, 02:02 PM
when was the last time the reds Started a rookie making his major league debut (who is not a starting pitcher of course)?

GIDP
05-01-2010, 02:25 PM
when was the last time the reds Started a rookie making his major league debut (who is not a starting pitcher of course)?

Bruce, Stubbs both come to mind. I wouldnt doubt if Votto and Edwin both did.

davereds24
05-01-2010, 03:08 PM
Francisco

GIDP
05-01-2010, 04:30 PM
Heisey isnt going to get any playing time I have a feeling. He wont even let him pinch hit.

Vottomatic
05-01-2010, 04:32 PM
Stubbs is struggling big time. I'd start Heisey tomorrow against Carpenter, even if he is a tough pitcher.

ian_madden
05-02-2010, 01:54 AM
I don't see Heisey sniffing the lineup this week.

Vottomatic
05-02-2010, 08:36 AM
Yeah, let's keep sending Stubbs out there to strikeout looking.

GIDP
05-02-2010, 08:38 AM
Yeah, let's keep sending Stubbs out there to strikeout looking.

I trust Stubbs eye on pretty much every ball and strike. He got called out on some bad calls yesterday.

Vottomatic
05-02-2010, 08:47 AM
I trust Stubbs eye on pretty much every ball and strike. He got called out on some bad calls yesterday.

I strongly disagree. He is swinging through pitches and taking some good ones to boot. He's completely lost at the plate right now.

GIDP
05-02-2010, 08:50 AM
I strongly disagree. He is swinging through pitches and taking some good ones to boot. He's completely lost at the plate right now.

Stubbs is near the league leaders in not swinging at balls (35th). His eye is as good as anyones.

Vottomatic
05-02-2010, 09:36 AM
Stubbs is near the league leaders in not swinging at balls (35th). His eye is as good as anyones.

Not lately. :D

Griffey012
05-02-2010, 11:40 AM
Stubbs is near the league leaders in not swinging at balls (35th). His eye is as good as anyones.

He isn't swinging at strikes either.

tbball10
05-02-2010, 11:50 AM
He's hit some balls very hard this series. I wouldn't mind Heisey getting a start, but I really don't think Stubbs is struggling as bad as his numbers say.

GIDP
05-02-2010, 12:54 PM
He's hit some balls very hard this series. I wouldn't mind Heisey getting a start, but I really don't think Stubbs is struggling as bad as his numbers say.

hes not

Vottomatic
05-02-2010, 05:42 PM
He's on pace for 175+ strikeouts in 500 at-bats right now.

I guess that number is okay by you guys. K's are always good in a leadoff hitter. Atleast that's what I'm learning from this board.

1990REDS
05-02-2010, 06:41 PM
Stubbs has a huge upside. Right now he is hitting poorly but he does play good D. Lets remember that he is young and right now he needs expierience and PA. Realisticly its gonna take a couple seasons before he really starts to settle in and start showing of his potential. It doesnt help that he plays in cincy were lets face it we dont exactly have a murderers row offence and maybe hes asked to do a little more thatn a lot of other teams would ask a young player to do. He needs on the job training to get better. Now if we want to argue wether he should get that in the 7 0r 8 spot or at leadoff or even in AAA thats a whole other thread. Right now im not ready to give up on a really athletic and talented guy 20 some games into his first season. This is part of having a young team! Everyone wants youth but knowone wants to go through the growing pains of developing it, and were not the yanks or sox so we cant let some other club develop them on thier dime and then swoop in with a big contract and buy them. Stubbs has prolly got a leash thats almost as long as bruce's so were gonna have to deal with the bad but hopefully it pays of in the end.

KySteveH
05-07-2010, 03:29 AM
He's on pace for 175+ strikeouts in 500 at-bats right now.

I guess that number is okay by you guys. K's are always good in a leadoff hitter. Atleast that's what I'm learning from this board.

His K's are the symptom, not the problem. I would never agree that K's are good. It's just they are not any worse than any other out. If you OPS .375 and whiff 80 times, you are very similar to the guy who OPS .375 and whiffs 120 times.

Stubbs's Ks are not the issue, the BBs and Hs are.

GIDP
05-07-2010, 08:36 AM
His K's are the symptom, not the problem. I would never agree that K's are good. It's just they are not any worse than any other out. If you OPS .375 and whiff 80 times, you are very similar to the guy who OPS .375 and whiffs 120 times.

Stubbs's Ks are not the issue, the BBs and Hs are.

The BBs arent an issue. He walks at a great rate, and has a very good eye.