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Bat @ Bison - 1:05
Burke CF .217
Cozart SS .241
Valaika 2B .329
Dorn RF .233
Frazier LF .190
Francisco 3B .109
Castillo C .224
Sutton 1B .197
Wood, T P .500
Carolina v Mobile @ 7:05 - Thompson
Lynchburg v Potomac @ 2:05 - Partch
Dayton v Bowling Green @ 2:00 - Justin Walker
Both teams get a couple of hits in the 1st but nothing across the plate.
Burke and Valaika single for the Bats
Frazier HBP and Cisco lines a single to start the Bats' 2nd
Castillo pops out on a sac bunt attempt. :confused:
Sutton singles Frazier in.
Cisco to 3B
1-0 Bats going to the bottom of the 2nd
Valaika singles again but that's all the Bats get in the 3rd
1-2-3 3rd for Wood
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Wood 3.0 2 0 0 0 3 0 3.54
Pitches-strikes: Wood, T 45-30
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 02:08 PM
Anyone's video working?
My video has worked all game. Still having issues?
Going to the 5th, Bats up 1-0
Valaika and Sutton both 2 for 2
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 02:11 PM
Lynchburg is about to get underway
Player AVG
Reed, J CF .137
Puckett 2B .273
Soto DH .275
Mendez, C 1B .324
Mesoraco C .309
Buchholz 3B .267
Day LF .273
Rojas SS .213
Wiley RF .000
Partch P .000
My video has worked all game. Still having issues?
Working now. I had to re-login on the Bats page.
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 02:12 PM
Dayton is also about to get underway
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Rodriguez, He 2B .269
Coddington DH .295
Means RF .315
Richburg 1B .274
Garton LF .000
Pfister 3B .265
Contreras, E CF .204
Carlson, S SS .194
Wideman C .182
Walker P .000
Valaika robbed on a behind the back stab by the pitcher that results in a DP.
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 02:16 PM
Valaika robbed on a behind the back stab by the pitcher that results in a DP.
That play was incredible. Seems to go well with how the Bats have been playing.
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Wood 5.0 4 0 0 0 4 0 3.30
Pitches-strikes: Wood, T 74-50, Gee 60-43.
Groundouts-flyouts: Wood, T 2-8, Gee 4-6.
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 02:25 PM
Lynchburg down 2-0 heading into the bottom of the 1st.
Dorn with a leadoff double in the 6th
Castillo 2-out RBI double
2-0 Bats
Tied up 2-2 on a Bison HR by Hessman
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Mesoraco walked in his first plate appearance.
Wood is done for the day
Ondrusek warming
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Wood 6.0 6 2 2 0 5 1 3.77
Anderson PH for Wood, singles and steals 2nd.
11larkin11
05-02-2010, 02:51 PM
On a side note, went downtown last night to watch the Clippers, and got to see Carlos Santana. Didn't have a great game, but one thing I noticed is that his stance and swing looks VERY similar to Juan Francisco's, shinguard and all. Fortunately, he can take a walk, though. Also had a fantastic snap throw from his knees to first to almost pick off a runner.
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Solid start by Wood.
Francisco and Castillo with back to back 1 out singles in the 8th
Season high 12 hits for the Bats
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 03:04 PM
On a side note, went downtown last night to watch the Clippers, and got to see Carlos Santana. Didn't have a great game, but one thing I noticed is that his stance and swing looks VERY similar to Juan Francisco's, shinguard and all. Fortunately, he can take a walk, though. Also had a fantastic snap throw from his knees to first to almost pick off a runner.
The two guys are like mirror images when you solely look at the swings (Santana from the left anyways, he is a little different from the right side). The major difference is Santana knows the strikezone and can read pitches while having good contact rates. Francisco can't do any of those things.
Anderson with a nice catch to save a run and send the game to the 9th still tied 2-2
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 03:21 PM
Devin Mesoraco just hit a 2-run HR, his 6th HR of the season in 69 atbats. He's 1-for-1 with a 2-run HR and a walk today.
Going to extras in Buffalo
NC Reds
05-02-2010, 03:37 PM
Devin Mesoraco just hit a 2-run HR, his 6th HR of the season in 69 atbats. He's 1-for-1 with a 2-run HR and a walk today.
Good job fat boy. ;)
Francisco 2-run HR
4-2 Bats
Cisco is 3 for 5 today
mth123
05-02-2010, 03:49 PM
Francisco 2-run HR
4-2 Bats
Cisco is 3 for 5 today
He needs to get hot.
Tied up in the 10th
4-4
Adkins has been ejected arguing a call at the plate
Adkins had good reason to argue. Castillo had the plate blocked.
Reineke on to pitch
HalMorrisRules
05-02-2010, 03:57 PM
Devin Mesoraco just hit a 2-run HR, his 6th HR of the season in 69 atbats. He's 1-for-1 with a 2-run HR and a walk today.
They were talking during the Dragon's game last night that Coddington probably needs to move up to Lynchburg because he had done pretty much all he could do at Dayton but as long as Mesoraco was there he wasnt going anywhere.
Dayton was rained out today, BTW.
Bats lost on a HR in the 10th
Player AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG
Burke CF-RF 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .215
Cozart SS 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .242
Valaika 2B 5 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
Dorn RF 4 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .234
Terrero PH 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
Frazier LF 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .180
Francisco 3B 5 1 3 0 0 1 2 0 0 .145
Castillo C 5 0 2 1 0 0 1 0 1 .238
Sutton 1B 5 0 2 0 0 0 1 0 1 .211
Wood P 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333
Anderson PH-CF 2 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .139
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Wood, T 6.0 6 2 2 0 5 1 3.77
Ondrusek 2.0 1 0 0 0 2 0 1.50
Del Rosario 1.0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2.45
Adkins 0.2 3 3 3 0 1 0 5.59
Reineke 0.0 1 1 1 0 0 1 3.75
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 04:26 PM
Another big game for Neftali Soto today. He's now 3-for-4 with a double after going 4-for-4 with 2 HR last night.
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 04:29 PM
Another big game for Neftali Soto today. He's now 3-for-4 with a double after going 4-for-4 with 2 HR last night.
In two games he has gone for a .203 hitter to a .300 (almost, .298 currently) hitter with his 7-8 two games.
batsfan
05-02-2010, 04:44 PM
What a disappointing game for the Bats. 7 - 17 and 8.5 back is not a good start, but really means nothing 24 games in. If they were losing blowouts, I would be concerned. But they have had lights out pitching, and are all slumping offensively. Frazier, Francisco, and Balentien have way to much talent to by hitting the way they are, and have been coming out of their slumps. They are going to break out very soon.
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 05:00 PM
Another walk for Mesoraco. He's now 1-for-2 with a 2-run HR, two walks, and three RBI. He's also thrown out two runners trying to steal.
11larkin11
05-02-2010, 05:36 PM
Another walk for Mesoraco. He's now 1-for-2 with a 2-run HR, two walks, and three RBI. He's also thrown out two runners trying to steal.
With the way the top prospects have started in AAA, he's skyrocketing right now.
Caveat Emperor
05-02-2010, 05:38 PM
Another walk for Mesoraco. He's now 1-for-2 with a 2-run HR, two walks, and three RBI. He's also thrown out two runners trying to steal.
He's off to a really hot start -- I'm skeptical, though, that it's anything more than that until it's sustained for more than a few weeks. Mez has been consistently mediocre for his entire reds ML career:
Year Age Lev G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2007 19 Rk 40 155 137 16 30 4 0 1 8 2 0 15 26 .219 .310 .270 .580
2008 20 A 83 334 306 29 80 13 1 9 42 2 3 20 64 .261 .311 .399 .710
2009 21 A+ 92 357 312 32 71 22 1 8 37 0 1 35 76 .228 .311 .381 .692
Now we see him posting an early stat-line that includes a .385 OBP and .588 SLG -- I hope it's legit, but the numbers so far indicate that he should probably fall back to earth.
OnBaseMachine
05-02-2010, 05:40 PM
He's off to a really hot start -- I'm skeptical, though, that it's anything more than that until it's sustained for more than a few weeks. Mez has been consistently mediocre for his entire reds ML career:
Year Age Lev G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
2007 19 Rk 40 155 137 16 30 4 0 1 8 2 0 15 26 .219 .310 .270 .580
2008 20 A 83 334 306 29 80 13 1 9 42 2 3 20 64 .261 .311 .399 .710
2009 21 A+ 92 357 312 32 71 22 1 8 37 0 1 35 76 .228 .311 .381 .692
Now we see him posting an early stat-line that includes a .385 OBP and .588 SLG -- I hope it's legit, but the numbers so far indicate that he should probably fall back to earth.
He's also been rushed throughout his minor league career. He's finally at a level where he belongs. Oh, and his BABIP is only .296 so it's not like he's been lucky so far.
Benihana
05-02-2010, 06:16 PM
I'd like to see Wood get a little bit more dominant in Louisville. As it stands now, I think that Maloney has cemented his status as next in line for a big league callup. By the time we need Wood or Chapman, it may be close. LeCure is also making an awful strong case, although I'd rather sell high and trade him while his value is high. I don't believe he can be an effective big league starter.
Nice to see Mez's hot start. Hope he can keep it up and see a midseason promotion to Carolina. Then Soto and Coddington can split duties in Lynchburg.
Superdude
05-02-2010, 06:19 PM
He's off to a really hot start -- I'm skeptical, though, that it's anything more than that until it's sustained for more than a few weeks. Mez has been consistently mediocre for his entire reds ML career
Mes isn't going to finish the year with a 1.000+OPS, but falling back to his career norms would be just as shocking to me. While it's only 70 at bats, Mesoraco's offensive statistics have been nearly flawless so far. His plate discipline's been off the charts and his power seems to be coming on in a big way. Writing off improvement from a 21 year old catcher from Pennsylvania seems a little pessimistic.
HokieRed
05-02-2010, 06:28 PM
Mesoraco made a 130 pt. OPS jump between rookie ball and A ball. What if he made a similar "real" OPS jump last year but that was masked by his being in the FSL? In other words, the real way to read his line is from .580 to .710 to .800 plus or minus--and now maybe he makes that kind of jump this year again.
Mesoraco had 3 passed balls today? Mercy.
Caveat Emperor
05-02-2010, 07:34 PM
Mes isn't going to finish the year with a 1.000+OPS, but falling back to his career norms would be just as shocking to me. While it's only 70 at bats, Mesoraco's offensive statistics have been nearly flawless so far. His plate discipline's been off the charts and his power seems to be coming on in a big way. Writing off improvement from a 21 year old catcher from Pennsylvania seems a little pessimistic.
I'm not writing off improvement -- but there's a difference between "improvement" and a fast start.
I hope what we're seeing is a sign that Mez has improved, but I'm skeptical (and justifiably so, IMO) based on the pedestrian lines he's posted thus far in his career.
Has Mes ever had a streak like this before?
muddie
05-02-2010, 08:40 PM
The Mudcats have asserted their willpower and are now down 2-1 into the bottom of the fifth. Rain threatens this game so there probably isn't a lot of time to turn this around. Daryl Thompson is doing well as the starter.
dougdirt
05-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Just to go with Mesoraco talk on here.... We saw improvements across the board last season in all of his peripherals. His power was well above average for the FSL, much less for a 20/21 year old in the FSL. His plate discipline was solid, with a good walk rate and an acceptable strikeout rate. This season we are seeing the same walk rate, an increase in power (expected given he left the FSL). The only difference we are seeing is the improved strikeout rate.
gedred69
05-02-2010, 10:37 PM
Soooo, does Dorn ever get a chance with the Reds? Should be evident what Nix has, extreme mediocrity. I would think Dorn deserves a look to see if maybe he could be a step or two better....
Cedric
05-03-2010, 08:00 AM
Just to go with Mesoraco talk on here.... We saw improvements across the board last season in all of his peripherals. His power was well above average for the FSL, much less for a 20/21 year old in the FSL. His plate discipline was solid, with a good walk rate and an acceptable strikeout rate. This season we are seeing the same walk rate, an increase in power (expected given he left the FSL). The only difference we are seeing is the improved strikeout rate.
Exactly. This talk about mediocre is not reasonable, IMO. Sometimes it's hard for people to judge minor league numbers if they don't understand iso/age at level and other peripherals.
Many of us expected this to happen. Just don't expect an ops like this all year. :)
cumberlandreds
05-03-2010, 09:00 AM
Adkins had good reason to argue. Castillo had the plate blocked.
Reineke on to pitch
This game was on SNY and I watched it off and on throughout the day. That was a good call at the plate. Castillo had it blocked but didn't tag the runner until after he touched the plate. From what I saw Wood looked good. It looks to me like is almost MLB ready.:)
Scrap Irony
05-03-2010, 12:42 PM
Really suprised at Mesoraco's continuing hitting prowess so far. Love to see it, as I was among those that insisted he was virtually useless. Glad to see he can hit. Now he has to do it consistently for the year.
If he somehow manages to OPS over 800 for the year, he's probably one of the three most important prospects in the Red pipeline.
Benihana
05-03-2010, 12:49 PM
If he somehow manages to OPS over 800 for the year, he's probably one of the three most important prospects in the Red pipeline.
Agree with this, especially when considering the fact that after this season, the AAA guys like Frazier, Francisco, Chapman and Wood should be major league ready and thus no longer considered prospects (although their current batting lines suggest the contrary.)
If Mez can consistently OPS over 800 all year- including after a midseason promotion to Carolina, he will be right up there with Alonso, Boxberger, and Rodriguez for the most important "prospects" in the system this offseason.
Another re-emergence to watch is Daryl Thompson. I'd like to see him get back up to AAA to see if his comeback is legit.
dougdirt
05-03-2010, 01:15 PM
From what I saw Wood looked good. It looks to me like is almost MLB ready.:)
I agree here. While I know his ERA isn't sparkling (not bad either, its below 4.00), I think he could probably be pitching nearly as well in the major leagues. The Reds defense is an unfathomable amount better than the one in Louisville and Wood's stuff and control have been excellent all year so far. If there is a guy ready for the big leagues that we have in the minors now, its Travis Wood (and Matt Maloney, who has been ready since last season sometime).
Caveat Emperor
05-03-2010, 02:54 PM
Exactly. This talk about mediocre is not reasonable, IMO. Sometimes it's hard for people to judge minor league numbers if they don't understand iso/age at level and other peripherals.
Many of us expected this to happen. Just don't expect an ops like this all year. :)
I don't know how you classify the following statlines as anything OTHER than mediocre:
ROOKIE: .219 / .310 / .270
A: .261 / .311 / .399
A+: .228 / .311 / .381
Those are bad numbers -- plain, flat-out, bad. You can spin it any way you like, but Mesoraco wasn't making good contact, he wasn't hitting for power, and he generally wasn't getting on base (though, in his defense, he was remarkably consistent in his inability to get on base, given that his OBP hasn't differed by more than a point since he turned professional).
You can talk about peripherals all you want, but Mez has, thus far, not gotten the job done at any level he's played.
lollipopcurve
05-03-2010, 03:04 PM
You can talk about peripherals all you want, but Mez has, thus far, not gotten the job done at any level he's played.
Are you saying that despite his excellent start that you don't think he's a legit prospect?
dougdirt
05-03-2010, 03:09 PM
I don't know how you classify the following statlines as anything OTHER than mediocre:
ROOKIE: .219 / .310 / .270
A: .261 / .311 / .399
A+: .228 / .311 / .381
Those are bad numbers -- plain, flat-out, bad. You can spin it any way you like, but Mesoraco wasn't making good contact, he wasn't hitting for power, and he generally wasn't getting on base (though, in his defense, he was remarkably consistent in his inability to get on base, given that his OBP hasn't differed by more than a point since he turned professional).
You can talk about peripherals all you want, but Mez has, thus far, not gotten the job done at any level he's played.
Actually, what he did in both A and A+ given his age and the leagues, was about average. Now if you want to say 'he should be better than average given his draft spot', then that has some merit. But just compared to his other age comps at those same exact level/leagues, he was right in line with what you typically see.
Caveat Emperor
05-03-2010, 03:36 PM
Are you saying that despite his excellent start that you don't think he's a legit prospect?
Far too early to write the kid off, IMO. All I'm saying is that he's going to need to prove he can post a good statline for an entire year (which he hasn't done yet in his career), not just an entire month.
lollipopcurve
05-03-2010, 03:45 PM
Far too early to write the kid off, IMO. All I'm saying is that he's going to need to prove he can post a good statline for an entire year (which he hasn't done yet in his career), not just an entire month.
No argument there. The key with Mesoraco is the defense. If he can be a catcher at the major league level, the Reds have something. But reports suggested that until this spring people felt he'd have to find another position.
dougdirt
05-03-2010, 11:33 PM
No argument there. The key with Mesoraco is the defense. If he can be a catcher at the major league level, the Reds have something. But reports suggested that until this spring people felt he'd have to find another position.
I don't know where you heard that, but last season the reports were good on his defense from everything I read or heard. Certainly needed improving, just like every 21 year old catcher does, but the reports all suggested that defensively he would be just fine.
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