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_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2010, 04:29 PM
Lineups Courtesy of Mark Sheldon...hopefully fewer typos.



Tuesday's Reds lineup vs. Mets:

Stubbs 8
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Bruce 9
Cabrera 6
Nix 7
Hanigan 2
Arroyo 1

Question of the day -- Who is your preference at Reds catcher -- Ramon Hernandez or Ryan Hanigan? Hanigan is generally Arroyo's battery-mate, but he's also catching others like Harang and Bailey. Hernandez has done well with Mike Leake. Pitchers have a 4.58 ERA with Hanigan -- it's 5.73 with Hernandez.

Hanigan enters tonight batting .389 with 10 RBIs. Hernandez is hitting .245 with four RBIs but has come on stronger of late.

forfreelin04
05-04-2010, 04:40 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/p-pvb.cgi?n1=mainejo01#choice=&bats=&minPA2=0&year_game=career&opp_id=CIN&orderby=PA&orderbyb=Name&minPA=0&orderbydir=DESC&orderbydirb=ASC&n1=mainejo01&as=pitcher

Phillips has hit well (.500) against Maine in 9 PA's with 2 HR's.

Captain Hook
05-04-2010, 05:29 PM
Nix getting a lot of PT since Dickerson went on the DL.It sure would be a good time for him to get hot.I'd much rather see him playing against RHP then Gomes especially when defense has to be considered.Personally I'm sick of Jonny.

Will Janish ever play again?

_Sir_Charles_
05-04-2010, 06:00 PM
Nix getting a lot of PT since Dickerson went on the DL.It sure would be a good time for him to get hot.I'd much rather see him playing against RHP then Gomes especially when defense has to be considered.Personally I'm sick of Jonny.

Will Janish ever play again?

Janish...2 starts at short. Two.

The 2 he started at third for Rolen still puzzles me. Why not Janish at short and Cabrera at third? Whatever.

Neither Nix or Gomes are hitting...I'll go with the defender if I must pick between those two.

nate
05-04-2010, 06:51 PM
Janish...2 starts at short. Two.

The 2 he started at third for Rolen still puzzles me. Why not Janish at short and Cabrera at third? Whatever.

Probably because Janish has the better arm.

11larkin11
05-04-2010, 08:11 PM
Pagan with a pop bunt to RF for a hit. I thought of Furcal when I saw that, as he did that against us last year in LA, then Welsh brings that up. Nice job Welsh.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 08:12 PM
Mets nickel and diming Arroyo. 1st and 3rd with no outs after a bunt hit and a soft hit and run single.

Mario-Rijo
05-04-2010, 08:14 PM
Did Welsh just say what I think he said? :D

#edit, I ran it back and he sure did say a little 4 letter word.

11larkin11
05-04-2010, 08:14 PM
Bunt single to RF, soft ground ball just past Phillips, and soft groundball to CF just past Cabrera put up a run for NY.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 08:21 PM
Bunt single to RF, soft ground ball just past Phillips, and soft groundball to CF just past Cabrera put up a run for NY.

Weakest earned run I've seen in a while. But they all count the same.

Good to see Bronson keep his composure and retire Bay and Wright rather easily.

reds44
05-04-2010, 08:22 PM
Dear God that was a BOMB.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 08:22 PM
BP :jump:

Screwball
05-04-2010, 08:23 PM
Phillips has hit well (.500) against Maine in 9 PA's with 2 HR's.

Good call, sir. :thumbup:

11larkin11
05-04-2010, 08:23 PM
BP with a rally killer. You don't hit home runs in front of the #3 hitter!

Drop him to 9.

JaxRed
05-04-2010, 08:27 PM
Listening to the Mets broadcasters. They were talking about how the ball to Cabrera could have been a DP if he had more range.

guttle11
05-04-2010, 08:29 PM
Ike Davis is going to be a good one...

Chip R
05-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Ike Davis is going to be a good one...

We shall see. They were saying the same things about Frenchy when he came up.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 08:30 PM
Arroyo should actually feel fortunate Davis only singled there. That 3-2 changeup was on a tee right down the middle.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 08:43 PM
Goodness, Nix. That pitch was a foot outside. You don't need to try to homer every time up.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 08:45 PM
Awesome baserunning (it's great to say that and not be sarcastic).

reds44
05-04-2010, 08:45 PM
Wow, what a huge break for the Reds with Arroyo on deck.

2-1.

reds44
05-04-2010, 08:47 PM
Funny how baseball works.

When I saw Bruce going to 3rd with 2 outs and the pitcher on deck, I thought "wow, what a dumb baserunning move."

Then when Francouer threw it in the dugout I thought, "what a dumb move to throw it with the pitcher coming up."

Maybe I'm just dumb.

Mario-Rijo
05-04-2010, 08:48 PM
Wow, what a huge break for the Reds with Arroyo on deck.

2-1.

Poor decision on Bruce's part but it worked out for him.

CTA513
05-04-2010, 08:54 PM
This inning consisted of Arroyo and Votto throwing the ball back and forth to each other for a 1-2-3 inning.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 08:55 PM
BP doubles, just misses a HR.

Chip R
05-04-2010, 08:57 PM
BP doubles, just misses a HR.

I'm really tired of Brandon turning triples into doubles and doubles into singles.

redsmetz
05-04-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm just listening the game, but why hadn't Phillips retreated back to the bag to tag up?

VR
05-04-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm really tired of Brandon turning triples into doubles and doubles into singles.

Posing again?

Votto's fly out on gameday was in the stands....was it caught at the fence?

mbgrayson
05-04-2010, 08:59 PM
Why didn't Phillips tag on Votto's fly and move to third?? Plenty of time, outfielder running back on the play...

reds44
05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Why didn't Phillips tag on Votto's fly and move to third?? Plenty of time, outfielder running back on the play...
With 1 out, you have to make sure you score if that ball drops.

Chip R
05-04-2010, 09:01 PM
Posing again?

Votto's fly out on gameday was in the stands....was it caught at the fence?

Not necessarily posing but jogging out of the box like it was a routine fly.

mbgrayson
05-04-2010, 09:04 PM
With 1 out, you have to make sure you score if that ball drops.

It was pretty darn clear that was going to be caught, it was very high, and very deep. I've seen lots of players tag and take third on very similiar flies.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 09:08 PM
Wright ties up the game.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 09:09 PM
David Wright hit that about 974 feet.

BTW, Trivia Question answer is Reyes. He hit for the cycle against the Reds back in '06 I believe.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 09:15 PM
I think if I was John Maine, every single pitch I threw to a Reds lefty would be the fastball up and out of the zone. The Reds have swung and missed at it every time.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 09:48 PM
Man, we normally don't get tumbleweeds in game threads until August.

Mets get 2 in the top of the 6th to take the lead 4-2.

CTA513
05-04-2010, 09:48 PM
4-2 Mets in the 6th inning

NJReds
05-04-2010, 09:59 PM
I can't believe how good the Reds are making John Maine look.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 10:11 PM
I can't believe how good the Reds are making John Maine look.

Yeah, it's one thing if Carpenter shuts you down. It's another story if John Maine and his freaking 90 mph fastballs dominate you.

edabbs44
05-04-2010, 10:13 PM
Mikey Cairo gets unlucky. Hard hit ball. 4-2 Mets headed to the 8th.

CTA513
05-04-2010, 10:21 PM
Fisher with a 1-2-3 inning and struck out all 3 batters.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 10:25 PM
Votto :jump:

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 10:27 PM
Rolen! :jump:

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 10:27 PM
How about that. Tie game.

Guacarock
05-04-2010, 10:28 PM
Sweet!

Hoosier Red
05-04-2010, 10:28 PM
Weak effort by the fan letting that even be in doubt. Catch the dang ball.

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 10:29 PM
Going to review it. Awesome. :thumbdown:

Tom Servo
05-04-2010, 10:30 PM
Confirmed as a HR. 4-4 game indeed.

Screwball
05-04-2010, 10:32 PM
First time all year Reds have hit back-to-back Homers. Picked a helluva time for it. :)

reds44
05-04-2010, 10:33 PM
This team would be cool if we could hit.

reds44
05-04-2010, 10:35 PM
I'm not blaming Dusty for using Cordero here, but with the way things are going we're going to have save situations the next three games.

guttle11
05-04-2010, 10:36 PM
I'm not blaming Dusty for using Cordero here, but with the way things are going we're going to have save situations the next three games.

I don't mind it. No problem with burning one pitcher to the point of needing a day off. Just don't burn the top three and be left in a spot like Sunday in STL. Masset or Sir Arthur can close tomorrow if needed.

reds44
05-04-2010, 10:37 PM
Crap.

Degenerate39
05-04-2010, 10:38 PM
Game. Blousses

Spring~Fields
05-04-2010, 10:57 PM
Final NY Mets 5, Cincinnati 4

WP: P. Feliciano (1-0) S: F. Rodriguez (4)
LP: F. Cordero (1-2)

Scoring Summary
Top 1st: NY Mets
Reyes singled to center, A. Pagan scored, L. Castillo to second

Bot 1st: Cincinnati
Phillips homered to left

Bot 2nd: Cincinnati
Hanigan singled to shallow right, J. Bruce to third,
R. Hanigan to second advancing on throw,
Bruce scored, R. Hanigan to third on right fielder J. Francoeur's fielding error

Top 4th: NY Mets
Wright homered to deep left

Top 6th: NY Mets
Bay hit sacrifice fly to center, L. Castillo scored
Francoeur singled, J. Reyes scored, I. Davis to second

Bot 8th: Cincinnati
Votto homered to deep center
Rolen homered to deep center

Top 9th: NY Mets
Barajas homered to deep left center

Reds Batting
2B - B Phillips (7, J Maine).
HR - B Phillips (3, 1st inning off J Maine 0 on, 1 Out),
J Votto (5, 8th inning off F Nieve 0 on, 2 Out),
S Rolen (6, 8th inning off F Nieve 0 on, 2 Out).
RBI - B Phillips (10), J Votto (15), S Rolen (12).
2-out RBI - J Votto, S Rolen.
Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - J Bruce 1, B Arroyo 1.
Team LOB - 4.

Reds Fielding
DP - 1 (S Rolen-B Phillips-J Votto).

Pitching


NY Mets
IP H R ER BB K HR
Maine 6.0 4 2 1 2 6 1
Mejia 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Nieve 0.2 2 2 2 0 0 2
Feliciano 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0
Rodriguez 1.0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Cincinnati
Arroyo 7.0 7 4 4 2 3 1
Fisher 1.0 0 0 0 0 3 0
Cordero 1.0 1 1 1 0 1 1

Pitches-strikes -
J Maine 102-62; J Mejia 11-7; F Nieve 9-7; P Feliciano 2-2; F Rodriguez 13-8;
B Arroyo 99-66; C Fisher 13-9; F Cordero 8-7.

Ground balls-fly balls -
J Maine 3-10; J Mejia 1-1; F Nieve 1-2; P Feliciano 1-0; F Rodriguez 2-0;
B Arroyo 14-8; C Fisher 0-0; F Cordero 1-1.

Batters faced -
J Maine 24; J Mejia 3; F Nieve 4; P Feliciano 1; F Rodriguez 3;
B Arroyo 29; C Fisher 3; F Cordero 4.

Tony Cloninger
05-04-2010, 10:57 PM
Who in the name of Johnny Bench is Rod Freakin Barajas???

WVRedsFan
05-05-2010, 12:46 AM
Oh well.

Ron Madden
05-05-2010, 03:42 AM
At least we have a day game tomorrow, less time to dwell on this loss.

HeatherC1212
05-05-2010, 10:47 AM
We were downtown last night seeing the skating show at US Bank Arena and we came out of there just in time to catch Joey and Scott's HRs. We heard the cheering for Joey's HR when we first came out and I had a feeling that he had hit that HR because Rolen was up to bat next and I knew they were still batting back to back in the lineup. As we were trying to find out the score, we heard the cheers for Rolen's HR and found out the game was tied in the 8th inning. As we were walking to my car, we heard cheers go up again and thought we had taken the lead but I found out about the review later on and knew the second round of cheers had to be related to that moment. That was kind of fun to be down there and hear when those things happened but not actually be at the game to really see them, LOL :laugh:

_Sir_Charles_
05-05-2010, 12:38 PM
Probably because Janish has the better arm.

Good point. I was thinking along the lines of range.

LincolnparkRed
05-05-2010, 05:21 PM
On a not that anyone else cares tangent. The reds have now loss 4 in a row on May 4th. May 4th is my birthday :(