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cumberlandreds
05-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Robin Roberts died today at 83 years young. He was one of greatest Phillie pitchers ever and one of the best in the NL during the 1950's.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ar3irFZQ9.voMdNuWPEzgLsRvLYF?slug=ap-obit-robinroberts

George Anderson
05-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Interesting that Roberts gave up more HR's (505) than any pitcher in baseball history.

Always Red
05-06-2010, 02:49 PM
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Robin Roberts coached Chris Welsh when both were at South Florida; I am sure Chris will have plenty of Roberts stories in his upcoming broadcasts, he has always spoken very highly of Robin Roberts in the past.

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Tornon
05-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Does this mean that we might be losing someone else since things like this always seem to happen in 3s? Harwell.. Roberts.. ???...

Bob Borkowski
05-06-2010, 10:42 PM
Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.

Chip R
05-06-2010, 10:48 PM
Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.

Yeah. A lot of those HRs were solo shots.

westofyou
05-07-2010, 12:54 AM
Ah, yes, Robin Roberts, one of the great ones, no doubt.

I'll always remember the game he pitched against the Reds at Shibe Park in the early 50s. Bobby Adams lead off the game with a homer and that was the only hit they had all night. A possibility here is that Adams was the only guy to reach base, I just can't remember for sure. Maybe I'll check that out later, unless someone beats me to the punch.

Roberts allowed lots of homers because he was always around the plate. Great control.

56 years ago next week, good memory, now I don't feel so odd with my own memories of games from 38-40 years ago.



Philadelphia Phillies 8, Cincinnati Reds 1

Day
Game Played on Thursday, May 13, 1954 (N) at Connie Mack Stadium

CIN N 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 1 1 3
PHI N 0 2 1 0 5 0 0 0 x - 8 11 0
BATTING
Cincinnati Reds AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Adams 3b 4 1 1 1 0 1 2 2
McMillan ss 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 4
Bell cf 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Kluszewski 1b 3 0 0 0 0 2 12 1
Greengrass lf 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 1
Temple 2b 3 0 0 0 0 0 3 6
Post rf 3 0 0 0 0 1 1 1
Bailey c 3 0 0 0 0 2 2 0
Valentine p 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Podbielan p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Escalera ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
Savransky p 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
Merriman ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Totals 28 1 1 1 0 8 24 16
FIELDING -
DP: 2. McMillan-Temple-Kluszewski, Adams-Temple-Kluszewski.
E: McMillan (6), Temple (7), Post (3).
BATTING -
HR: Adams (1,1st inning off Roberts 0 on 0 out).
Team LOB: 0.
Philadelphia Phillies AB R H RBI BB SO PO A
Jones 3b 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
Ashburn cf 3 2 1 0 2 0 1 0
Torgeson 1b 5 1 2 1 0 0 7 0
Ennis lf 4 1 1 1 0 0 2 0
Hamner 2b 4 1 3 1 0 0 2 2
Wyrostek rf 2 2 0 0 2 0 3 0
Burgess c 4 1 1 1 0 0 9 0
Morgan ss 4 0 1 1 0 0 3 4
Roberts p 3 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
Totals 34 8 11 6 4 0 27 6
BATTING -
3B: Torgeson (1,off Valentine).
SH: Roberts (2,off Savransky).
Team LOB: 7.
BASERUNNING -
SB: Hamner (1,2nd base off Valentine/Bailey).
PITCHING
Cincinnati Reds IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP
Valentine L(3-3) 4 9 6 6 3 0 0 22
Podbielan 1 1 2 0 1 0 0 5
Savransky 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 12
Totals 8 11 8 6 4 0 0 39
Valentine faced 3 batters in the 5th inning
Philadelphia Phillies IP H R ER BB SO HR BFP
Roberts W(4-3) 9 1 1 1 0 8 1 28
Umpires: HP - Bill Jackowski, 1B - Jocko Conlan, 2B - Artie Gore, 3B - Frank Secory
Time of Game: 2:59 Attendance: 6856
Starting Lineups:

Cincinnati Reds Philadelphia Phillies
1. Adams 3b Jones 3b
2. McMillan ss Ashburn cf
3. Bell cf Torgeson 1b
4. Kluszewski 1b Ennis lf
5. Greengrass lf Hamner 2b
6. Temple 2b Wyrostek rf
7. Post rf Burgess c
8. Bailey c Morgan ss
9. Valentine p Roberts p

REDS 1ST: Adams homered; McMillan popped to catcher in foul
territory; Bell grounded out (second to first); Kluszewski flied
out to right; 1 R, 1 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 0.

PHILLIES 1ST: Jones grounded out (shortstop to first); Ashburn
walked; Torgeson grounded out (first unassisted) [Ashburn to
second]; Ennis lined to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Reds
1, Phillies 0.

REDS 2ND: Greengrass made an out to shortstop; Temple made an
out to second; Post struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1,
Phillies 0.

PHILLIES 2ND: Hamner singled to left; Wyrostek walked [Hamner to
second]; Burgess singled to right [Hamner out at home (right to
shortstop to third to catcher), Wyrostek to third, Burgess to
second (on throw)]; Morgan singled to left [Wyrostek scored,
Burgess to third]; Roberts grounded out (second to first)
[Burgess scored, Morgan to second]; Jones popped to first in
foul territory; 2 R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 2.

REDS 3RD: Bailey struck out; Valentine made an out to second;
Adams was called out on strikes; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1,
Phillies 2.

PHILLIES 3RD: Ashburn singled to second; Torgeson singled to
right [Ashburn to second]; Ennis grounded into a double play
(shortstop to second to first) [Ashburn to third, Torgeson out
at second]; On a bunt Hamner singled to second [Ashburn scored];
Hamner stole second; Wyrostek grounded out (second to first); 1
R, 3 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 3.

REDS 4TH: McMillan lined to shortstop; Bell flied out to left;
Kluszewski struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 3.

PHILLIES 4TH: Burgess popped to third in foul territory; Morgan
popped to third in foul territory; Roberts singled to center;
Jones flied out to left; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies
3.

REDS 5TH: Greengrass popped to first in foul territory; Temple
grounded out (shortstop to first); Post grounded out (shortstop
to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 3.

PHILLIES 5TH: Ashburn walked; Torgeson tripled to left [Ashburn
scored]; Ennis singled to center [Torgeson scored]; PODBIELAN
REPLACED VALENTINE (PITCHING); Hamner singled to right [Ennis to
third (error by Post)]; Wyrostek walked [Hamner to second];
Burgess reached on an error by Temple [Ennis scored, Hamner
scored (unearned) (no RBI), Wyrostek to third]; Morgan grounded
into a double play (third to second to first) [Wyrostek scored
(unearned) (no RBI), Burgess out at second]; Roberts grounded
out (second to first); 5 R (3 ER), 3 H, 2 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1,
Phillies 8.

REDS 6TH: Bailey struck out; ESCALERA BATTED FOR PODBIELAN;
Escalera struck out; Adams flied out to right; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0
LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

PHILLIES 6TH: SAVRANSKY REPLACED ESCALERA (PITCHING); Jones
singled to third; Ashburn forced Jones (left to shortstop to
second); Torgeson flied out to right; Ennis popped to first in
foul territory; 0 R, 1 H, 0 E, 1 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

REDS 7TH: McMillan struck out; Bell flied out to left;
Kluszewski struck out; 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

PHILLIES 7TH: Hamner flied out to left; Wyrostek grounded out
(first unassisted); Burgess grounded out (first to pitcher); 0
R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

REDS 8TH: Greengrass grounded out (shortstop to first); Temple
flied out to right; Post made an out to shortstop; 0 R, 0 H, 0
E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

PHILLIES 8TH: Morgan reached on an error by McMillan; Roberts
reached on a fielder's choice on a sacrifice bunt [Morgan to
second]; Jones popped to catcher in foul territory; Ashburn
grounded out (pitcher to first) [Morgan to third, Roberts to
second]; Torgeson grounded out (second to first); 0 R, 0 H, 1 E,
2 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

REDS 9TH: Bailey grounded out (second to first); MERRIMAN BATTED
FOR SAVRANSKY; Merriman flied out to center; Adams grounded out
(shortstop to first); 0 R, 0 H, 0 E, 0 LOB. Reds 1, Phillies 8.

Final Totals R H E LOB
Reds 1 1 3 0
Phillies 8 11 0 7

westofyou
05-07-2010, 01:03 AM
Workhorse of the 50's an era plagued by small parks and station to station baseball.





ROBIN ROBERTS

YEAR TEAM AGE W L PCT G GS CG SV GF IP H R ER BB SO ERA RSAA
1948 Phillies 21 7 9 .438 20 20 9 0 0 147 148 63 52 61 84 3.18 9
1949 Phillies 22 15 15 .500 43 31 11 4 9 227 229 101 93 75 95 3.69 8
1950 Phillies 23 20 11 .645 40 39 21 1 1 304 282 112 102 77 146 3.02 29
1951 Phillies 24 21 15 .583 44 39 22 2 4 315 284 115 106 64 127 3.03 26
1952 Phillies 25 28 7 .800 39 37 30 2 2 330 292 104 95 45 148 2.59 40
1953 Phillies 26 23 16 .590 44 41 33 2 2 347 324 119 106 61 198 2.75 53
1954 Phillies 27 23 15 .605 45 38 29 4 6 337 289 116 111 56 185 2.96 36
1955 Phillies 28 23 14 .622 41 38 26 3 3 305 292 137 111 53 160 3.28 28
1956 Phillies 29 19 18 .514 43 37 22 3 6 297 328 155 147 40 157 4.45 -27
1957 Phillies 30 10 22 .313 39 32 14 2 5 250 246 122 113 43 128 4.07 -9
1958 Phillies 31 17 14 .548 35 34 21 0 0 270 270 112 97 51 130 3.23 22
1959 Phillies 32 15 17 .469 35 35 19 0 0 257 267 137 122 35 137 4.27 -8
1960 Phillies 33 12 16 .429 35 33 13 1 2 237 256 113 106 34 122 4.03 2
1961 Phillies 34 1 10 .091 26 18 2 0 3 117 154 85 76 23 54 5.85 -25
1962 Orioles 35 10 9 .526 27 25 6 0 1 191 176 63 59 41 102 2.78 20
1963 Orioles 36 14 13 .519 35 35 9 0 0 251 230 100 93 40 124 3.33 0
1964 Orioles 37 13 7 .650 31 31 8 0 0 204 203 69 66 52 109 2.91 19
1965 Orioles 38 5 7 .417 20 15 5 0 2 115 110 51 43 20 63 3.37 1
Astros 38 5 2 .714 10 10 3 0 0 76 61 22 16 10 34 1.89 11
TOTALS 10 9 .526 30 25 8 0 2 191 171 73 59 30 97 2.78 12
1966 Astros 39 3 5 .375 13 12 1 1 1 63.2 79 31 27 10 26 3.82 -2
Cubs 39 2 3 .400 11 9 1 0 2 48.1 62 35 33 11 28 6.14 -13
TOTALS 5 8 .385 24 21 2 1 3 112 141 66 60 21 54 4.82 -15
TOTALS 286 245 .539 676 609 305 25 49 4689 4582 1962 1774 902 2357 3.40 220
LG AVERAGE 261 261 .500 187 10 4689 4615 2303 2038 1754 2477 3.91 0

YEAR TEAM HR H/9 BR/9 SO/9 BB/9 SO/BB SHO WP IBB HBP BFP BK NW NL
1948 Phillies 10 9.06 13.04 5.14 3.73 1.38 0 1 0 4 604 0 9 7
1949 Phillies 15 9.08 12.25 3.77 2.97 1.27 3 1 0 5 933 0 16 14
1950 Phillies 29 8.35 10.69 4.32 2.28 1.90 5 2 0 2 1228 0 19 12
1951 Phillies 20 8.11 10.03 3.63 1.83 1.98 6 4 0 3 1274 0 22 14
1952 Phillies 22 7.96 9.33 4.04 1.23 3.29 3 3 0 5 1310 0 23 12
1953 Phillies 30 8.40 10.04 5.14 1.58 3.25 5 3 0 2 1412 0 26 13
1954 Phillies 35 7.72 9.35 4.94 1.50 3.30 4 2 0 5 1331 0 24 14
1955 Phillies 41 8.62 10.24 4.72 1.56 3.02 1 3 3 2 1256 0 22 15
1956 Phillies 46 9.94 11.21 4.76 1.21 3.93 1 2 3 2 1228 0 15 22
1957 Phillies 40 8.86 10.44 4.61 1.55 2.98 2 0 16 1 1033 0 15 17
1958 Phillies 30 9.00 10.77 4.33 1.70 2.55 1 2 5 2 1116 0 18 13
1959 Phillies 34 9.35 10.75 4.80 1.23 3.91 2 1 4 5 1075 2 15 17
1960 Phillies 31 9.72 11.09 4.63 1.29 3.59 2 0 7 2 982 0 14 14
1961 Phillies 19 11.85 13.77 4.15 1.77 2.35 0 1 6 2 512 0 4 7
1962 Orioles 17 8.29 10.41 4.81 1.93 2.49 0 2 7 4 774 0 12 7
1963 Orioles 35 8.25 9.79 4.45 1.43 3.10 2 0 8 3 1014 0 14 13
1964 Orioles 18 8.96 11.38 4.81 2.29 2.10 4 2 6 3 846 1 12 8
1965 Orioles 17 8.61 10.25 4.93 1.57 3.15 1 1 3 1 469 0 6 6
Astros 1 7.22 8.41 4.03 1.18 3.40 2 1 1 0 293 0 5 2
TOTALS 18 8.06 9.52 4.57 1.41 3.23 3 2 4 1 762 0 11 8
1966 Astros 7 11.17 12.72 3.68 1.41 2.60 1 0 0 1 274 0 4 4
Cubs 8 11.54 13.59 5.21 2.05 2.55 0 2 0 0 210 0 1 4
TOTALS 15 11.33 13.10 4.34 1.69 2.57 1 2 0 1 484 0 5 8
TOTALS 505 8.79 10.63 4.52 1.73 2.61 45 33 69 54 19174 3 296 235
LG AVERAGE 470 8.86 12.41 4.75 3.37 1.41 32 111 99 98 20072 12


CAREER
1949-1960

BASERUNNERS/9 IP displayed only--not a sorting criteria
ERA displayed only--not a sorting criteria
HOMERUNS vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria
RSAA displayed only--not a sorting criteria

INNINGS PITCHED IP BR/9 IP ERA HR RSAA
1 Robin Roberts 3476 10.43 3.39 -23 200
2 Warren Spahn 3393 10.75 2.98 66 245
3 Early Wynn 2966 11.73 3.34 9 149
4 Billy Pierce 2750 11.37 3.15 13 230
5 Bob Lemon 2294 12.19 3.30 24 133
6 Bob Rush 2276 11.70 3.63 59 84
7 Bob Friend 2252 12.00 3.77 37 34
8 Ned Garver 2250 12.16 3.74 -8 104
9 Mike Garcia 2155 11.94 3.25 55 133
10 Don Newcombe 2154.2 10.95 3.56 -34 132

Ron Madden
05-07-2010, 04:28 AM
R.I.P. Robin Roberts.

We have lost so many of the great players from the era of black and white TV.... and my childhood. :(

Roy Tucker
05-07-2010, 09:12 AM
R.I.P. Robin Roberts

Work horse indeed. Look at his innings pitched, games started, and complete games, especially from about '49 to '59. That will contribute to HR's as well. Amazing.