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texasdave
05-06-2010, 07:11 PM
Just a question that I thought I would throw out there to folks who follow the minors closely. He is 24 and at AA, but is putting up some fine numbers. Is he still relevant? What are the chances of him eventually taking a spot in a ML rotation? Any and all comments are welcome.

Benihana
05-06-2010, 07:34 PM
I think he is still relevant and should be back up in AAA as soon as a spot opens up (although he may have to wait behind Klinker.)

In terms of his big league future, I always thought the bullpen would be Thompson's calling at the big league level. Similar to Micah Owings, he could be a mediocre starter or an above average reliever. Why not train him now to be the latter?

fearofpopvol1
05-06-2010, 10:42 PM
I think he is still relevant and should be back up in AAA as soon as a spot opens up (although he may have to wait behind Klinker.)

In terms of his big league future, I always thought the bullpen would be Thompson's calling at the big league level. Similar to Micah Owings, he could be a mediocre starter or an above average reliever. Why not train him now to be the latter?

Maybe you can fool another team into thinking he's a starting and getting good value for him?

I love Thompson, but his injury history really concerns me.

mth123
05-06-2010, 10:51 PM
I think he is still relevant and should be back up in AAA as soon as a spot opens up (although he may have to wait behind Klinker.)

In terms of his big league future, I always thought the bullpen would be Thompson's calling at the big league level. Similar to Micah Owings, he could be a mediocre starter or an above average reliever. Why not train him now to be the latter?

I think Thompson is a reliever as well, but he may need to pitch some extended innings on a regular schedule to build arm strength. I think he could be a sleeper for the pen next year but his time starting now will pay dividends down the road IMO.

Kingspoint
05-07-2010, 01:34 AM
Without a doubt, he's still relevant.

The only goal this year is for him to get through 120-130 innings injury-free.

He does that, then he can stretch it out next season to 150-160 innings while throwing a complete arsenal of pitches.

He's developing pitching techniques right now that will benefit him when he gets to the Majors.

In 2012 he can be another starter for the REDS, and he'll only be approaching the beginning of his peak years of 27-31 (for a pitcher).

As long as he doesn't "bomb" this year or re-injure himself, then he'll be right on track from rehabilitating his latest injury.

lollipopcurve
05-07-2010, 09:46 AM
He's made it back more successfully than I thought he could, but he's still a long way from the majors, considering the line that's formed in front of him.

I consider him an extreme long shot -- no better than Tom Cochran -- to be a starter again for the Reds. He's got a better chance as a long reliever, but still a long shot. The health of his shoulder is just too fragile.

Doc. Scott
05-07-2010, 01:18 PM
And now he's on the DL with "right shoulder fatigue". I really think they ought to just go ahead and 'pen him now.

bucksfan2
05-07-2010, 01:31 PM
No. The only value the Reds could get out of him is in the pen. He is what 12th 13th on the starting pitching depth chart? He has proven over the course of his career he can't stay healthy enough. As of right now unless he is converted to a reliever he is there to fill on spot in the AA rotation.

ddrone
05-07-2010, 05:57 PM
Well,back to the D.L for young Mr.Thompson.Maybe when he gets back
he should be moved to the bullpen.

dougdirt
05-07-2010, 06:17 PM
Well,back to the D.L for young Mr.Thompson.Maybe when he gets back
he should be moved to the bullpen.

Isn't that what we said the last time? And the time before that?

jmcclain19
05-07-2010, 06:25 PM
I'd like to see him do well, but sadly I doubt Thompson ever rises as high as his couple of replacement starts for the Reds two seasons ago.

Too many injuries - too many other guys in front of him.

Kingspoint
05-07-2010, 10:12 PM
And now he's on the DL with "right shoulder fatigue". I really think they ought to just go ahead and 'pen him now.

They were so careful with him, too. This may just be a continuation of that. I doubt very much if he's going to be out beyond the minimum DL days. I think it's just "part" of his rehab.

I'm not writing him off, yet, as a starter. Let's see how this season plays out, first.

He can still get to 120-130 innings this year.

Kingspoint
05-11-2010, 06:29 PM
They were so careful with him, too. This may just be a continuation of that. I doubt very much if he's going to be out beyond the minimum DL days. I think it's just "part" of his rehab.

I'm not writing him off, yet, as a starter. Let's see how this season plays out, first.

He can still get to 120-130 innings this year.

....and he gets the start today.

....and he pitched fantastically. He actually breezed through the innings.

NJReds
05-11-2010, 10:42 PM
Is it possible that he could project as a Alfredo Aceves (NYY) or Tyler Clippard (WAS) type of swingman/middle reliever? Or would his arm not hold up as a reliever.

Kingspoint
05-11-2010, 11:47 PM
Is it possible that he could project as a Alfredo Aceves (NYY) or Tyler Clippard (WAS) type of swingman/middle reliever? Or would his arm not hold up as a reliever.

Because he's had to overcome so much adversity, he's had to become a smarter pitcher out of default. He could end up being very impressive....more of the John Tudor type of pitcher...2-1 Walk ratio w/ a 1.200 WHIP, low ERA (compared to his contemporaries). (except he'll probably never pitch 200 innings during a season like Tudor did 4 times.

I really could see him finishing with 1600 Innings (about 200 less than Tudor), but it all depends on him being able to get through 2010 and 2011 without an injury that puts him on the DL for 60 days.

Vottomatic
05-17-2010, 03:12 PM
His injury history always concerned me. I knew he'd be a bust.

dougdirt
05-17-2010, 03:47 PM
His injury history always concerned me. I knew he'd be a bust.

Except that until he retires, you can't really make that. It is not as if he was just getting his brains beat in. The guy was pitching extremely well. Again.

muddie
05-17-2010, 04:05 PM
I'm trying to find out the extent of his injury and am not getting anywhere yet.

muddie
05-19-2010, 10:26 AM
Zebulon, NC --- The Cincinnati Reds have made one roster move impacting their Double-A affiliate Carolina Mudcats prior to tonight's series finale with the Jacksonville Suns.

RHP Daryl Thompson has been placed on the seven-day disabled list with a right shoulder strain. The move is retroactive to May 17th. Thompson was lifted from Sunday's start after pitching 4 2/3 innings.

No corresponding move has been announced.


DISABLE: RHP Thompson, Daryl (To 7-day DL)

dougdirt
05-22-2010, 12:15 PM
I have a guy down in Chattanooga right now where Carolina is playing with a press pass for my site. HE talked with Thompson yesterday. Said he strained his rotator cuff and won't throw for a few days. He also said he isn't sure if he will head to the rotation or bullpen upon his return.

muddie
05-22-2010, 12:18 PM
It is a shame. They guy was so impressive his last start. Thanks for the update.

jojo
05-22-2010, 12:23 PM
He's made it back more successfully than I thought he could, but he's still a long way from the majors, considering the line that's formed in front of him.

I consider him an extreme long shot -- no better than Tom Cochran -- to be a starter again for the Reds. He's got a better chance as a long reliever, but still a long shot. The health of his shoulder is just too fragile.

Ya. If "still relevant" is defined as factoring in the team's future plans, the answer has got to be "not really".

reds44
05-22-2010, 05:45 PM
Ya. If "still relevant" is defined as factoring in the team's future plans, the answer has got to be "not really".
Was he ever really part of the teams plan though? It's not like anybody has ever said "we have Daryl Thompson waiting in the minors."

I think, at this point, you have to put him in the bullpen and see if his arm holds up down there. He has the talent to get to the majors and pitch, they've just got to find a way to keep him healthy.

Tony Cloninger
05-22-2010, 07:30 PM
I do not call someone who gets injured a bust. Eric Davis would be considered a bust based on that concept. Pete Reiser. Gary Nolan. Don Gullett.

fearofpopvol1
05-22-2010, 08:55 PM
No matter what happens with Daryl Thompson, watching his debut at Yankee Stadium was incredible. He loaded the bases with no outs and got out of it unscathed. What kind of person does that at Yankee Stadium and as a rookie making his debut no less? Granted, the 2008 Yanks were not as good as the 2009 ones, but they were still better than the Reds by a lot.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/06/21/2008-06-21_yankees_held_to_just_7_hits_in_shutout_l.html

Vottomatic
05-23-2010, 08:10 PM
Ya. If "still relevant" is defined as factoring in the team's future plans, the answer has got to be "not really".

Well said. And the fact he now has a rotator cuff injury pretty much says it all.

But all the positive people can keep dreaming. :rolleyes:

The Voice of IH
05-25-2010, 03:56 PM
gotta be tough for someone who made his first big league start at Yankee Stadium

muddie
05-25-2010, 06:11 PM
Thompson's 2008 start in New York...

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2008/B06210NYA2008.htm