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GOYA
05-12-2010, 10:50 AM
Bison @ Bats - Rain Delay

Burke CF .224
Cozart SS .264
Terrero LF .458
Balentien RF .203
Castillo 3B .247
Valaika 2B .351
Frazier 1B .216
Miller C .328
LeCure P .333


Lecure - 2.89 ERA

I haven't heard anything about Dorn's hand

batsfan
05-12-2010, 10:53 AM
Bison @ Bats - Rain Delay

Burke CF .224
Cozart SS .264
Terrero LF .458
Balentien RF .203
Castillo 3B .247
Valaika 2B .351
Frazier 1B .216
Miller C .328
LeCure P .333


Lecure - 2.89 ERA

I haven't heard anything about Dorn's hand

Any idea why there is no pregame show today?

GOYA
05-12-2010, 11:09 AM
Maybe they figured it was a foregone conclusion that the game wasn't going to start on time.

EDIT: Pregame is starting right now (11:10)

They're going to try to start at 11:40

Benihana
05-12-2010, 11:13 AM
Frazier playing 1B when there are two also-rans at 3B and LF is a complete waste.

membengal
05-12-2010, 11:16 AM
Not if Frazier is being groomed to someday be able to step in at 1b on occasion in Cincy.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 11:20 AM
Not if Frazier is being groomed to someday be able to step in at 1b on occasion in Cincy.

Im guessing his role with the major league team will be what Cairos roll right now is. Expanding it to LF in a pinch.

GOYA
05-12-2010, 11:24 AM
Frazier playing 1B when there are two also-rans at 3B and LF is a complete waste.

Dorn is out with a hand injury. There's not a lot of 1B experience on the roster.

GOYA
05-12-2010, 12:23 PM
Bats down 2-0 in the 3rd

GOYA
05-12-2010, 01:02 PM
Tied 2-2 in the 6th

Burke tied it up with a 2-run HR

Benihana
05-12-2010, 01:08 PM
Not if Frazier is being groomed to someday be able to step in at 1b on occasion in Cincy.

I'd rather see Castillo playing 1B then. Frazier is much more likely to be a starter at the major league level than Castillo, who at best is a utility backup. Let Castillo play pinch-1B and Frazier play the positions where he has a chance at starting in the major leagues.

By the way, just about anyone who is athletic enough to play 3B in the major leagues can always play 1B. It's not like he needs significant practice in game situations in order to be able to "step in at 1B on occasion in Cincy."

GOYA
05-12-2010, 01:11 PM
Bats down 5-2

GOYA
05-12-2010, 01:13 PM
Tererro HR

5-3

GOYA
05-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Cozart, Terrero and Balentien all with RBI singles

Bats lead 7-5 after 7

JaxRed
05-12-2010, 01:54 PM
Not a great game by Lecure

GOYA
05-12-2010, 02:05 PM
Adkins sucks.

7-6 Bats in the 9th

nobody out - two on

GOYA
05-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Bats down 8-7

GOYA
05-12-2010, 02:22 PM
Bats lost 8-7

Adkins with another blown save and loss.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2010, 05:40 PM
Update on Danny Dorn:


Notes: Sweet said that Danny Dorn has a broken bone in his left hand and will be out 4 to 6 weeks. Dorn suffered the injury on Tuesday when he was hit by a pitch. Hes the second hitter the team has lost this week as Juan Francisco will be out a month after an emergency appendectomy on Monday

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100512/SPORTS07/5120404/1036/Bisons+get+to+Adkins+again+to+end+Bats++streak+8-7

mdccclxix
05-12-2010, 07:10 PM
Does this pave the way for Alonso to AAA?

reds44
05-12-2010, 07:23 PM
Does this pave the way for Alonso to AAA?
.783 OPS doesn't scream promotion.

dougdirt
05-12-2010, 07:24 PM
Does this pave the way for Alonso to AAA?

Alonso is not in the lineup tonight for the Mudcats. Curious.

Mario-Rijo
05-12-2010, 07:32 PM
Does this pave the way for Alonso to AAA?

Or possibly an OF I'm thinking Sean Henry has earned a shot at coming up as well. The Louisville OF right now is a mess Balentein, Terrero and a bunch of IF's playing OF Frazier, Burke, Castillo, Sutton. Alonso or Henry would be my guess with the edge to a guy who could play a little CF in Henry.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2010, 07:43 PM
Tommy Nurre hit a solo HR in his first atbat with Dayton. Game is tied 2-2 after two innings.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 07:55 PM
Alonso doesnt really fit in AAA does he? Unless they do a rotation of him and Frazier at 1st and left.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2010, 08:02 PM
Josh Garton just hit a 3-run HR (#3) to give Dayton a 5-3 lead after three innings. Andrew Means is 2-for-2 with a triple.

Benihana
05-12-2010, 08:26 PM
Alonso doesnt really fit in AAA does he? Unless they do a rotation of him and Frazier at 1st and left.

Interesting. Not sure if Alonso has hit well enough in AA to warrant a promotion, but Alonso could play LF and Frazier could play 3B- especially while Francisco is out. When Francisco comes back, they could re-evaluate.

Benihana
05-12-2010, 08:28 PM
.783 OPS doesn't scream promotion.

It does if your last name rhymes with Flubbs:p:

HokieRed
05-12-2010, 08:31 PM
With both Francisco and Dorn out, you'd think the logical guy to promote is Alonso.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 08:32 PM
Interesting. Not sure if Alonso has hit well enough in AA to warrant a promotion, but Alonso could play LF and Frazier could play 3B- especially while Francisco is out. When Francisco comes back, they could re-evaluate.

Totally forgot about Francisco being out.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 08:34 PM
It does if your last name rhymes with Flubbs:p:

CF with premium D isnt the same as a left fielder/first baseman with suspect D though.

dougdirt
05-12-2010, 08:35 PM
CF with premium D isnt the same as a left fielder/first baseman with suspect D though.

Sure it is. Of course looking solely at a players OPS to determine a promotion is a poor way of determining ones readiness to play at the next level.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 08:41 PM
Sure it is. Of course looking solely at a players OPS to determine a promotion is a poor way of determining ones readiness to play at the next level.

How do you figure its the same. Promoting a .750 OPS CF is no where near the same as promoting a .750 OPS LF/1B.

Is promoting any of them ideal? No but they are not the same.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2010, 09:45 PM
Dayton won 5-4.

Gregorius: 1-for-4
H. Rodriguez: 1-for-4
Garton: 1-for-4 HR (#3), 3 RBI
Means: 2-for-3 triple, walk
Nurre: 1-for-3 HR (#1)

Sulbaran: 5 IP, 5 H, 3 ER, 2 BB, 6 K

Joseph: 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K...now has 1.08 ERA, 6 BB/29 K in 16.2 innings.

Guacarock
05-12-2010, 09:49 PM
Relief pitcher Sean Watson reassigned from AA Carolina Mudcats to High A Lynchburg Hillcats. Taking Watson's place on the Carolina roster: Catcher Chris McMurray from Lynchburg.

OnBaseMachine
05-12-2010, 09:50 PM
Nice. I managed to post that three times. Impressive.

Edit - thanks to whoever deleted the other two posts. I guess I hit the submit reply button too many times.

reds44
05-12-2010, 10:15 PM
Did you guys hear Sean Watson was sent to High A and Chris McMurray was called up to Lynchburg?

:)

dougdirt
05-12-2010, 10:26 PM
How do you figure its the same. Promoting a .750 OPS CF is no where near the same as promoting a .750 OPS LF/1B.

Is promoting any of them ideal? No but they are not the same.

I figured you would catch my sarcasm. Much harder to do online.

GIDP
05-12-2010, 10:36 PM
I figured you would catch my sarcasm. Much harder to do online.

I thought it was sarcasm at first but the 2nd line really threw me off. Ok glad to see we are on the same page.

Benihana
05-12-2010, 10:37 PM
Sure it is. Of course looking solely at a players OPS to determine a promotion is a poor way of determining ones readiness to play at the next level.

Really? What about the people that complain that Stubbs was promoted too soon, and that is the reason for his struggles at the big league level? mth123 comes immediately to mind...

Just because you play good defense doesn't make you "ready to play at the next level." Otherwise, shouldn't we be seeing Miguel Rojas in Cincinnati in the next couple weeks?

Guacarock
05-12-2010, 10:42 PM
In other news, aside from the overhyped :) Watson-McMurray transaction:

The Reds picked up RH relief pitcher Marco Carrillo from the Chicago Cubs' AA Tennessee Smokies affiliate. The Cubs originally signed the 23-year-old Culiacan, Mexico native in 2005. He compiled a 4.21 ERA in 31 appearances last season with the Smokies, and so far this season has logged a 3.60 ERA in relief (mushrooming to 5.00 overall owing to one disastrous starting gig).

He's been assigned to the Dayton Dragons.

Here's the link to Carrillo's MILB Player Page:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=t553&t=p_pbp&pid=456150

GIDP
05-12-2010, 10:43 PM
Really? What about the people that complain that Stubbs was promoted too soon, and that is the reason for his struggles at the big league level? mth123 comes immediately to mind...

Just because you play good defense doesn't make you "ready to play at the next level." Otherwise, shouldn't we be seeing Miguel Rojas in Cincinnati in the next couple weeks?

I think the obvious response to your thing about Stubbs is that you were trying to compare him and Yonder based only on their OPS. For the type of game Yonder as a .750 OPS is vastly different than someone like a Stubbs.

OnBaseMachine
05-13-2010, 02:36 AM
From the DDN:


PROSPECT WATCH: A scout at the game identified closer Donnie Joseph as the Dragon on the fastest track to the big leagues interesting if only because Baseball America ranks shortstop DiDi Gregorius a bit higher in the Reds system. Joseph worked the ninth, striking out two, for his fifth save.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/dayton-dragons/dragons-edge-fort-wayne-703552.html

GOYA
05-13-2010, 12:44 PM
It looks like no one mentioned the Mudcats' extra-inning victory last night.

Yonder had a pinch hit, 2-RBI single in the 8th

Henry was 2 for 3 with 2 BB.

Carolina won 6-5 in 10 innings

edabbs44
05-13-2010, 02:23 PM
Did you guys hear Sean Watson was sent to High A and Chris McMurray was called up to Lynchburg?

:)

Watson was drafted before Brett Anderson.

Ugh.

redhotdog10
05-14-2010, 01:13 AM
How do you figure its the same. Promoting a .750 OPS CF is no where near the same as promoting a .750 OPS LF/1B.

Is promoting any of them ideal? No but they are not the same.

redhotdog10
05-14-2010, 01:24 AM
Alonso has not performed as well as Sean Henry at AA. Sean Henry has played the positions of 1b, 2b, 3b, cf, lf, ss, and rf. He has much more experience, power, speed, and plate discipline than Alonso. Anyway, in all due respect and fairness, Sean Henry is WAY OVERDUE for a promotion. The so called "logjam in AAA" is just a tired old excuse. Not only is Sean Henry's OPS higher than Alonso, but his batting AVG is mountains more than Alonso's. The Bats need help and they certainly will not get it from Alonso. The loosing will continue. I'll put it to you this way, at least you are guaranteed 11 homeruns from Sean Henry and lots of action on the field than Alonso. You can take Sean Henry to the bank and cash him in, but with Alonso, your check just might bounce.

dougdirt
05-14-2010, 01:46 PM
Alonso has not performed as well as Sean Henry at AA. Sean Henry has played the positions of 1b, 2b, 3b, cf, lf, ss, and rf. He has much more experience, power, speed, and plate discipline than Alonso. Anyway, in all due respect and fairness, Sean Henry is WAY OVERDUE for a promotion. The so called "logjam in AAA" is just a tired old excuse. Not only is Sean Henry's OPS higher than Alonso, but his batting AVG is mountains more than Alonso's. The Bats need help and they certainly will not get it from Alonso. The loosing will continue. I'll put it to you this way, at least you are guaranteed 11 homeruns from Sean Henry and lots of action on the field than Alonso. You can take Sean Henry to the bank and cash him in, but with Alonso, your check just might bounce.

Is this a serious post? Don't get me wrong, Sean Henry has played well this season.... but Sean Henry doesn't have much more plate discipline than Alonso (7/18 BB/K compared to 19/16) and I don't think he has more power either. He may for the time being simply because of the injury, but in the long haul, its not close.

camisadelgolf
07-19-2010, 04:46 PM
The Reds picked up RH relief pitcher Marco Carrillo from the Chicago Cubs' AA Tennessee Smokies affiliate. The Cubs originally signed the 23-year-old Culiacan, Mexico native in 2005. He compiled a 4.21 ERA in 31 appearances last season with the Smokies, and so far this season has logged a 3.60 ERA in relief (mushrooming to 5.00 overall owing to one disastrous starting gig).

He's been assigned to the Dayton Dragons.

Here's the link to Carrillo's MILB Player Page:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=t553&t=p_pbp&pid=456150
Are we sure about this transaction? Carrillo never pitched a game for any Reds affiliate, and he just pitched yesterday for the Smokies (Cubs affiliate) last night after a two-month hiatus.