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Redsfan320
05-18-2010, 11:01 AM
Check it:

Cabrera 6
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Gomes 7
Heisey 8
Bruce 9
Hanigan 2
Janish 5
Bailey 1

vs. LHP Manny Parra

I'm not sure what to think. It's certainly interesting for an off-day lineup (a day where some players get a day off, not the team)

Also, it's our 1st day game in 1st place.

Keep in mind it's radio only. Start time 12:35

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flyer85
05-18-2010, 11:04 AM
I thought Janish was dead.

"Not hardly"

edabbs44
05-18-2010, 11:08 AM
Interesting that Stubbs would get the breather vs the lefty and not Bruce.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 11:12 AM
This is Parra's first start of the season. he will either have a great game or get run off the mound early. I'm hoping for the latter.

kbrake
05-18-2010, 11:13 AM
I didn't even realize it was a 1235 game. Man, I would have been annoyed with myself when I sat down at 7 tonight expecting a game.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 11:13 AM
I didn't even realize it was a 1235 game. Man, I would have been annoyed with myself when I sat down at 7 tonight expecting a game.

No TV either today. Just saw the Live version of this new app in action. Looks pretty cool. :thumbup:

Redsfan320
05-18-2010, 11:29 AM
Heisey bats 5th- MAYBE NOT

That lineup was from Sheldon and was then posted by Fay.

But Jamie Ramsey's lineups are actually pictures of the lineups posted in the clubhouse. The picture today has Heisey leading off and OCab 5th, switching them.

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redsmetz
05-18-2010, 11:48 AM
Heisey bats 5th- MAYBE NOT

That lineup was from Sheldon and was then posted by Fay.

But Jamie Ramsey's lineups are actually pictures of the lineups posted in the clubhouse. The picture today has Heisey leading off and OCab 5th, switching them.

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The Reds tweeted this: UPDATED 5-18 Reds lineup Heisey CF Phillips 2B Votto 1B Gomes LF Cabrera SS Bruce RF Hanigan C Janish 3B Homer Bailey P

medford
05-18-2010, 11:54 AM
Interesting that Stubbs would get the breather vs the lefty and not Bruce.

W/ another day game after a night game on Thursday, I'm guessing we're going to see some more "resting of starters" this week. I wouldn't mind seeing Janish get the nod at SS tomorrow to give Ocab a day off and allow Janish a chance at back to back games and maybe get in some consitant at bats over a couple of days. Perhaps you could say the same regarding Bruce/Heisey.

Chip R
05-18-2010, 12:01 PM
I thought Janish was dead.

"Not hardly"


Just mostly dead.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 12:07 PM
I always look at competition as a way to get guys to perform their best. I like the idea of reminding stubbs that he still has to play well in order to start everyday in CF. Not saying that he has played bad as of late, but letting a young guy who is fully capable of playing through a wierd schedule (like we have today) sit back and watch someone play the spot he has "locked up" is always a good thing.

TRF
05-18-2010, 12:09 PM
Just mostly dead.

which means a little bit alive. With all dead there is only one thing you can do.

HotCorner
05-18-2010, 12:18 PM
The Reds tweeted this: UPDATED 5-18 Reds lineup Heisey CF Phillips 2B Votto 1B Gomes LF Cabrera SS Bruce RF Hanigan C Janish 3B Homer Bailey P

This makes more sense. :thumbup:

Chip R
05-18-2010, 12:24 PM
which means a little bit alive. With all dead there is only one thing you can do.


What's that?

11larkin11
05-18-2010, 12:26 PM
Eh, I would have liked the first lineup. Let O-Cabs continue to thrive up top. Don't mess with whats working.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:08 PM
Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

LincolnparkRed
05-18-2010, 01:21 PM
Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

MLB.com says yes. I am heading to a bar at lunch hoping they are right

TRF
05-18-2010, 01:22 PM
I'm going to say it right now. Jinx or not, Bailey K's 10. That's a free swinging club, day game after a night game, and Bailey has something to prove: that the last game wasn't a fluke.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:33 PM
Heisey is leading off and Cabrera 5th. I don't think I would have changed things but maybe it will work out.

Redsfan320
05-18-2010, 01:37 PM
We are go

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Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:39 PM
Weeks grounds out to Phillips. Phillips throws him out at 1st. One out

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:40 PM
Is the game on the Brewers FSN?

Yes. Watching it now, thanks to being out of Reds market here in Baltimore, not blacked out.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:40 PM
Escobar grounds one to Phillips also and Phillips throws him out at first. Two outs

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:41 PM
Brewers announcers on their TV side lamenting how well the Reds starting staff as a whole has been pounding the strike zone of late.

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 01:42 PM
Just mostly dead.

Janish: "I feel fine. I'm getting better"

Dusty: "Don't be such a baby"

Monty Python Bring Out Your Dead (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4423433463769698725#)

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Braun homers to left center. 1-0 Brewers

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Braun goes yard.

TRF
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
I hate Ryan Braun.

Chip R
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
Stupid Lloyd Braun.

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:43 PM
That was pounded in its own right.

HeatherC1212
05-18-2010, 01:46 PM
Not the best start but at least it was only a solo shot.

TRF
05-18-2010, 01:47 PM
bad Homer, bad!

*trf kicks himself for cursing Homer earlier...

Caveat Emperor
05-18-2010, 01:47 PM
So, apparently Bad Homer Bailey on the mound today.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Fielder doubles to left :(

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:49 PM
McGehee singles Fielder in. 2-0 Brews

TRF
05-18-2010, 01:49 PM
Homer sure has thrown a lot of pitches this inning...

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:49 PM
The bullpen may get their work in today. Bailey not looking so good.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Homer sure has thrown a lot of pitches this inning...

Up to 26 pitches so far.

Chip R
05-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Price needs to go out and talk to Homer.

Caveat Emperor
05-18-2010, 01:50 PM
The bullpen may get their work in today. Bailey not looking so good.

He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:50 PM
He's not locating his fastball, getting behind, and then keeps getting beat on his breaking stuff. That was a hanging slider that McGehee hit to drive in Fielder.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Hart flys out to Bruce. 3 outs finally

LincolnparkRed
05-18-2010, 01:51 PM
Price needs to go out and talk to Homer.

I think at this point he needs to work through this kind of day. Can't always baby him

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:51 PM
30 pitches total in first inning.

Chip R
05-18-2010, 01:51 PM
Let's hope the Brewers pitcher pitches below Par(ra) today.

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:52 PM
He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

He actually is throwing it for strikes, its that they are getting pounded today. He really needs to locate his fastball primarily, and go slow with the off-speed stuff.

Hopefully he's a bit warmer now.

Only 2-0. Hold it around here, and hope the offense doesn't go into snooze mode against Parra and Brewers bullpen.

LincolnparkRed
05-18-2010, 01:52 PM
He doesn't have an off-speed pitch he can throw for a strike.

what happened to the splitter that Lehr taught him? don't think he threw it in the first inning?

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 01:52 PM
Homer looked fine until he had to face a real hitter like Braun. That homer spooked him, plus he faced two more really good hitters.

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 01:53 PM
Sometimes it's more about the other guys than it is you.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:56 PM
Heisey works a 9 pitch walk.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:56 PM
Heisey with a nice AB and the walk.

membengal
05-18-2010, 01:56 PM
Parra's pitch count high this year is 49 in one three inning stint. The Brewers TV announcers think the most he will be asked to go is 4 or 5 innings.

9 pitches to Heisey to start the game.

nate
05-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Chat is open!

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 01:58 PM
Parra's pitch count high this year is 49 in one three inning stint. The Brewers TV announcers think the most he will be asked to go is 4 or 5 innings.
9 pitches to Heisey to start the game.

The Reds just need to hang close in this one. The Brewers bullpen is bad and they should be able to light them up.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 01:58 PM
BP strikes out. 1 out

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:00 PM
Votto strikes out. 2 outs

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Gomes is on fire... Gomes is on fire...

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Gomes stays hot! Double to drive in Heisey!

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Gomes smokes one to left field. Gomes gets a double and advances to 3rd while Heisey scores.

2-1 Brewers

nate
05-18-2010, 02:03 PM
Let's GOMES!

redsmetz
05-18-2010, 02:04 PM
Marty & Jeff commenting on Heisey's wheels.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:05 PM
O.Cab grounds out to shortstop. 3 outs

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:06 PM
25 pitches for Parra. At this rate neither pitcher will make the 5th.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:07 PM
I think Bailey will turn it around now

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:08 PM
Gerut strikes out. 1 out

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 02:10 PM
I think Bailey will turn it around now

The key will be when he faces 3-4-5 again.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:10 PM
Kottaras grounds one to Phillips and Phillips throws him out at first. 2 gone

membengal
05-18-2010, 02:10 PM
Bailey locating his fastball much better this inning.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Parra grounds one to shortstop and is thrown out at first. 3 outs.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:12 PM
Bailey just 14 pitches that inning. Now up to 44 total.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:15 PM
Bruce flys out to left. 1 out

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:17 PM
Hanigan flys out to center. 2 outs

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:19 PM
Janish walks

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:20 PM
A good AB by Janish. Works a walk and gets Bailey out of the way for the third.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:21 PM
Bailey grounds one to 2nd. 3 outs

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:21 PM
42 pitches by Parra through two.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:23 PM
Weeks is hit by a pitch apparently.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Weeks thrown out trying to steal 2nd. 1 out

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Escobar strikes out. 2 gone

redsmetz
05-18-2010, 02:26 PM
Escobar strikes out. 2 gone

Just like that, says Jeff Brantley.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Braun grounds out to Phillips. 3 outs.

Tommyjohn25
05-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Handled him that time. Gotta give him credit now, he looks to be settling down.

medford
05-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Sauce on the side, says Jeff Brantley.

FTFY

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:28 PM
52 pitches by Homer through three.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:31 PM
Heisey flys out to center. 1 out

medford
05-18-2010, 02:31 PM
Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:32 PM
Phillips grounds out. 2 outs

edabbs44
05-18-2010, 02:32 PM
Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

He nailed Gomes' HR last night before it happened...thought it was solid analysis.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:34 PM
Votto singles to center

medford
05-18-2010, 02:37 PM
single to right for Gommes, Votto at 3rd

yab1112
05-18-2010, 02:37 PM
Seriously though, what are most people's opinions on Brantly, outside of the multiple food references and general corniness? Seems like he offers up pretty good insight into the mechanics of the game, ie telling us the Cueto is pulling off towards 1st and that is when his fastball gets high and flat a couple of starts ago, and telling us when its better. He mentioned something about something he saw wrong w/ a particular batter the other day, perhaps Votto.

I'm not savy enough to know how accurate these observations are, but rather than just saying that a player is struggling, he's often able to point to a specific issue w/ the player at the time that is different than his normal self.

Pretty much agree with everything you said. His pbp isn't always great, but his analysis and insight usually is. My favorite thing to hear though, is when he makes some generalization that sounds good but isn't really true, then Marty calls him out on it. :D

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:37 PM
I don't know what Gomes was doing on that one. Gomes singles to right as Hart missed the ball as he dived for it. Gomes on first and Votto on third. Gomes was almost out as he was going back to first.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 02:38 PM
We need one of those clutch seeing eye singles by OCab right here.

edabbs44
05-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Up to the inning Gomes OPS watch: .872.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:39 PM
O.Cab grounds out to 3rd. 3 out

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:40 PM
Parra at 61 pitches. Brantley said he was on a 70 to 80 pitch count. So maybe one more inning from him.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:44 PM
Fielder walks. Get the oxygen tank ready at first.

Ron Madden
05-18-2010, 02:46 PM
In my opinion of all the Reds radio broadcasters Brantley is at the bottom of the totem pole.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:47 PM
McGehee pops up to right and Phillips gets to it. 1 out

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Hart K's. 2 gone

Chip R
05-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Pretty much agree with everything you said. His pbp isn't always great, but his analysis and insight usually is. My favorite thing to hear though, is when he makes some generalization that sounds good but isn't really true, then Marty calls him out on it. :D


I think he does the analysis thing better on TV than radio for the most part. He's awful at play by play. I was in my car on Sunday and there was a fly ball that Bruce and Stubbs went after and almost collided and Brantley didn't say whether it was an out or not. That used to drive me crazy with Joe too so I'm not just picking on Brantley.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Gerut grounds it to BP who gets the force out at 2nd. 3 outs

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 02:53 PM
76 pitches for Homer. At this rate maybe two more innings for him.

yab1112
05-18-2010, 02:53 PM
I think he does the analysis thing better on TV than radio for the most part. He's awful at play by play. I was in my car on Sunday and there was a fly ball that Bruce and Stubbs went after and almost collided and Brantley didn't say whether it was an out or not. That used to drive me crazy with Joe too so I'm not just picking on Brantley.

I never get to watch the game on tv so I'll take your word for it, but that would make sense.

I remember a call by Joe in one of his last years calling games, "And there's a base hit to left-right-center field!"

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:55 PM
Bruce gets a board with a single

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 02:56 PM
Bruce gets a board with a single

Quick trade him for Cliff Lee :p:

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:57 PM
Quick trade him for Cliff Lee :p:

And print off the playoff tickets

GoReds
05-18-2010, 02:59 PM
MLB Gameday has it that Parra is down 4-5 mph on his fastball this inning.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 02:59 PM
Bruce steals 2nd.

medford
05-18-2010, 02:59 PM
Bruce plays robin hood, and steals 2nd

Caveat Emperor
05-18-2010, 03:00 PM
With a slow runner like Hanigan up, a stolen base is worth a little bit more than usual because it takes the DP off the table.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:00 PM
Hanigan walks

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Basically a sacrifice by Janish.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Janish hits a dribbler to the pitcher. Runners advance and Janish out at 1st.

2nd and 3rd with 1 out.

Caveat Emperor
05-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Might we be looking at a squeeze situation here?

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:03 PM
I would think long and hard about turning this over to a healthy bullpen right now. Homer only has an inning left anyway.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:04 PM
Don't trust Bailey to get down the squeeze here. Hopefully he can make contact to the right side of the IF.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Anyone know if the infield is in right here?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Bailey k's. 2 outs

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Nevermind.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:05 PM
It's up to heisey to drive 'em in.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:06 PM
I like Heisey here. Still think he should be getting more starts in CF.

Ron Madden
05-18-2010, 03:07 PM
Heisey has been hitting the ball pretty good of late.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:08 PM
Watching the MLB Gameday thing, and it keeps talking of all these balls in the dirt by Parra. Is he really struggling?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:08 PM
Heisey walks again. Bases loaded for Brandon

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Parra has to be out of gas.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Phillips needs to be patient here.

medford
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Parra to remain in vs Phillips. Sounds like a solid play by the 3b on the 1st pitch to throwout Phillips.

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Phillips needs to be patient here.

so much for that idea.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Watching the MLB Gameday thing, and it keeps talking of all these balls in the dirt by Parra. Is he really struggling?

Yes sir I think all the balls he threw in Heisey at bat were in the dirt.

McGehee just made a great play to rob Phillips of probably a double

Ron Madden
05-18-2010, 03:10 PM
I hate it when Brandon swings at the first pitch after a walk.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:10 PM
Can't blame Phillips on that one. Sounded like it took a great play by McGeeHee to him out.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:11 PM
Good play by the Brewers, Homer killed us that inning with the weak K. Kid has to make contact.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:12 PM
Kattaras bounces one to BP. 1 out

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Good play by the Brewers, Homer killed us that inning with the weak K. Kid has to make contact.

He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Parra's day is done. Stern PHing for him.

VR
05-18-2010, 03:15 PM
He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

Couldn't disagree more. Unless he's injured or getting shelled, the starter needs to bat for himself in the bottom of the 4th.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:15 PM
He is at 77 Through Four innings, It appears that he only has one more left the way he is throwing. It would have been a great spot to let Rolen PH and get Owings some much needed work.

I don't think that thought would have crossed Dusty's mind. He's old school.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:15 PM
Stern pinch hitting for Parra. And pops up to O.Cab. 2 gone

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:16 PM
I am watching the game, and parra was absolutely gassed. Phillips swung at a pitch at his ankles, unfortunately. McGehee did make a nice play, but I would have liked to see Phillips wait for a ball to drive.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:17 PM
Weeks K's. 3 outs

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:17 PM
And there is no way that Baker should have pinch hit for Bailey in the 4th. That would have been insane.

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:18 PM
Good inning for Homer. Seems to be settling in. If he has an easy 6th, I'd let him start the 7th.

VR
05-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Next inning is an early season litmus test for Homer. Should be his last inning...he faces 2/3/4 in the order.
If he gets through that....he should be done for the day.

KoryMac5
05-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Homer has been pretty stout since the first inning. Nice to see him putting in some efficient innings.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Couldn't disagree more. Unless he's injured or getting shelled, the starter needs to bat for himself in the bottom of the 4th.

The more I think about it, the more I don't know that I agree with myself. I was really in the moment of trying to score the tying run with one out and runners at 2nd and 3rd......Just mindless rable of a possible strategy. Would have been nice to see a risk though.

VR
05-18-2010, 03:19 PM
what's his pitch count?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Estrada making his MLB Debut

CTA513
05-18-2010, 03:20 PM
what's his pitch count?

87 pitches

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Votto lines out to 1st base on the first pitch

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:23 PM
Gomes K's

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:24 PM
O.Cab flys out to center. 3 outs.

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:25 PM
junk balling righty they have never seen. That's not a good combination for the Reds on many occasions in the past

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:26 PM
junk balling righty they have never seen. That's not a good combination for the Reds on many occasions in the past

Marty and Brantley says he has a weird delivery too. Anyone verify that?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:28 PM
Escobar popped out to 3rd and then Braun grounded out to 3rd. 2 outs

medford
05-18-2010, 03:28 PM
popout, ground out to 3rd, 2 down. No hit ball (1 hit batter, 1 walk) since the 2 runs given up in the first.

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:30 PM
Marty and Brantley says he has a weird delivery too. Anyone verify that?

Yup. It's odd.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Fielder grounds out to short. 3 outs.

Is that Baileys last inning of work?

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
6 IP, 96 pitches. I let him start the 7th.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
96 pitches for Bailey. Maybe one more inning?

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Homer Bailey has been really, really, really good today.

medford
05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
G.O. to SS, 94 pitches I think. Homer due up 4th, if he doesn't bat this inning, I think I'd let him pitch the 7th on a short lease, let him build up some more confidence.

err... 96 pitches based upon comments above, but I still let him pitch the next inning unless he comes to the plate w/ runners on base, so how about back to back homers :)

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:32 PM
I think Homer's staying or being done depends entirely on who is on base when his spot is due up this inning.

MikeS21
05-18-2010, 03:33 PM
He's throwing 94-95 mph? At least let him start the inning.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:34 PM
Bruce grounds out to Prince. 1 out

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:34 PM
Bailey is not tired. It will depend on whether they need to pinch hit for him.

I am more concerned about this guy they have never seen with the Chris Reitsma change....

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:36 PM
Hanigan pops up in foul territory. 3rd baseman gets it. 2 gone

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:37 PM
ugly offense right now.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:37 PM
Janish pops up to the centerfielder. 3 outs

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:37 PM
hate how many runners they stranded against parra.

fugowitribe
05-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Does Drew Stubbs Leadoff Next Inning as a PHer?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:40 PM
McGehee doubles to left

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:41 PM
Hart flys out to Bruce. McGehee stays put lol. 1 out

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 03:41 PM
Nice throw by Bruce. He will win Gold Gloves someday

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:42 PM
Gerut grounds out to first and the runner advances to 3rd. 2 outs.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:43 PM
They intentionally walk Kattaras

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Estrada doing such a good job, Macha sends him out to hit

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Estrada batting

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Says a lot about what Macha thinks of the rest of his bullpen.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Estrada grounds out to O.Cab.

I'm assuming we see Stubbs bat here in the bottom of the 7th?

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:47 PM
what a fine outing for Homer. Against a really good offensive team. Need to score some runs now to pick him up.

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Good day for Homer. He pitches like this every 5th day, and I'll certainly be happy. :)

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:48 PM
A great outing by Bailey after a slow start. Let's reward him with at least two runs this inning.

CTA513
05-18-2010, 03:48 PM
Another good outing by Bailey.
7 Innings, 2 ER, 11 ground outs and only 2 walks (1 was intentional).

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:49 PM
110 pitches by Homer. 71 strikes and 39 balls.

Chip R
05-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Nix to pinch hit

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Nix pinch hitting

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Nix is still alive?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:51 PM
Nix k's. 1 out

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:51 PM
Nix is still alive?

guess not. :)

reds44
05-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Nix needs to go away.

pedro
05-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Nix is still alive?

I think he's toast when/if Dickerson comes back. I don't think they'll send Heisey back down.

TheNext44
05-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Nix is still alive?

technically only, judging from that AB

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:52 PM
this guy is pitching like vintage reitsma. nasty change down to 78 has them all flailing, and then they can't time the 92 mph straight fastball

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:53 PM
Heisey k's. 2 outs

Raisor
05-18-2010, 03:53 PM
I think he's toast when/if Dickerson comes back. I don't think they'll send Heisey back down.

Heisey needs to be playing every day. IMO

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:53 PM
yeah, they are completely messed up. 93 mph right down the middle and heisey just looked at it. this is ugly at the moment.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:53 PM
Estrada must be thinking what's the big deal about the major leagues. This is easy.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:54 PM
BP flys out to Hart in right. 3 outs.

2-1 Brewers after 7

pedro
05-18-2010, 03:55 PM
Heisey needs to be playing every day. IMO

In center or left?

HeatherC1212
05-18-2010, 03:56 PM
Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:

Nice outing for Homer today. The guys gotta get him a win today. :)

TRF
05-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Too bad the Reds couldn't tack on a run there, or pushed more than one of the 8 baserunners Parra allowed across. But Homer still from all accounts pitched a heckuva game.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:

Nice outing for Homer today. The guys gotta get him a win today. :)

Or at the least tie it up so he won't be charged with the lose. He's pitched well enough today and kept the team in it all day. Just had one bad inning is all.

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:57 PM
TRF: I am watching it on the Milwaukee feed, and Homer was absolutely nails.

Homer Bailey
05-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Lincoln vs. Braun should be hilarious.

cumberlandreds
05-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Macha probably wishes he could pitch that guy for the rest of the game, LOL :laugh:



He may keep him in. The Brewers bullpen has been horrid this year. This guy has to be a breathe of fresh air to Macha.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 03:59 PM
Weeks grounds out to short. 1 out

membengal
05-18-2010, 03:59 PM
I can only hope the Reds have loaded their how-to-hit-a-changeup program in the Matrix for the 8th.

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:00 PM
TRF: I am watching it on the Milwaukee feed, and Homer was absolutely nails.

Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:01 PM
Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

Don't forget Leake!

Escobar beats out an infield single.

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:02 PM
Don't forget Leake!

Escobar beats out an infield single.

too soon. But depth is fun!

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:03 PM
too soon. But depth is fun!

How about Volquez then?

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:03 PM
Good to know. a 1-2 of Cueto/Bailey could be great for years.

He got looser after the first, like a lot of power pitchers. He spotted his fastball much better from the second inning on. They got no good swings at him after the three hits in the first, frankly. One hit only in the second through seventh for Bailey. It was dominant.

Sick to my stomach, actually, that they did not get him some runs.

edabbs44
05-18-2010, 04:03 PM
In center or left?

Probably CF if Alonso is still at AAA.

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:04 PM
How about Volquez then?

Usually takes a year to get control back. usually. Liriano has been filthy this year, but struggled last year. Maybe Volquez will do better.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:04 PM
too soon. But depth is fun!

TRF, I don't think it's too soon. I think Leake is special.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:05 PM
BRaun walks

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:06 PM
TRF, I don't think it's too soon. I think Leake is special.

Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, having not seen solid pitching since '99. but it is just 7 career starts. I'm cautious.

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:06 PM
Lincoln slowly turning back into... Mike Lincoln.

VR
05-18-2010, 04:07 PM
looks like all the pitches to Braun just missed?

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Oh boy Danny Ray pitching

pedro
05-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Probably CF if Alonso is still at AAA.

I'm not ready to give up on Stubbs and don't think Alonso is ready yet.

I'd like to see Heisey get more AB's and be given chance to stick in LF though.

Pretty good outing by Bailey BTW.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Lincoln slowly turning back into... Mike Lincoln.

meh, he got a groundball that should have been an out to SS from escobar, and then was rightfully careful with braun.

Raisor
05-18-2010, 04:09 PM
In center or left?

If Dusty is only going to just use him occasionally off the bench, he needs to be in AAA starting everyday.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:09 PM
Maybe I'm just a tad jaded, having not seen solid pitching since '99. but it is just 7 career starts. I'm cautious.

He was even better his second pass against the Cubs, and sure didn't shrink from a big moment last Saturday in front of a sold out crowd in what felt like a must-win against Wainwright. That was pretty nails from the kid. I really do think he's got a little something that is happily wonderful in his make-up.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:09 PM
Thank God that was foul

NJReds
05-18-2010, 04:10 PM
Oh boy Danny Ray pitching

Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

pedro
05-18-2010, 04:10 PM
If Dusty is only going to just use him occasionally off the bench, he needs to be in AAA starting everyday.

I don't know, he's already 25.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:10 PM
PEACE! Oops thought this was the chat. Prince K's. 2 outs

Hoosier Red
05-18-2010, 04:11 PM
Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

At least since Sid Fernandez pitched to Jose Uribe.(If that ever happened. I think it did.)

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:11 PM
DRH velocitized Fielder.

Glad Dusty kicked some of the rust of DRH's tires last night.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:11 PM
Against Prince? Would this be the largest weight disparity between batter and pitcher in baseball history? ;)

I'd say Danny Ray is about 140 and Prince has to be pushing 300. You may be right

TRF
05-18-2010, 04:11 PM
DRH K's the Prince.

DRH is a man/boy beast!

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:12 PM
McGehee strikes again. Singles to right and a run scores.

3-1 Brews

RedsManRick
05-18-2010, 04:12 PM
Gameday shows that hit coming on a pitch that was at the knees and just out of the zone. That's a good location; hard to fault DRH for that.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Yeah, he reached out and poked it to right.

This may not be Cincy's day. Have not gotten their many runners home, and Milwaukee has cashed in their few chances.

CTA513
05-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Lincoln to Herrera and now to Fisher.

Kc61
05-18-2010, 04:13 PM
I think the league may be figuring out Danny Ray. He started the year great but hasn't been as good more recently. He had a long layoff but he didn't pitch well last night and that hit was costly.

pedro
05-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Gameday shows that hit coming on a pitch that was out of the zone. Hard to fault DRH for that.

It was a good pitch, low and about a foot outside and Mcgee pool queued it down the 1B line.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:14 PM
More than likely we can say good bye to first place today.

VR
05-18-2010, 04:15 PM
Fisher in...I think the Reds are seeing the downside to all those darn complete games. Rusty relievers.

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:15 PM
McGehee steals 2nd

flyer85
05-18-2010, 04:16 PM
dusty was a little late on the trigger

RedsManRick
05-18-2010, 04:16 PM
I think the league may be figuring out Danny Ray. He started the year great but hasn't been as good more recently. He had a long layoff but he didn't pitch well last night and that hit was costly.

Maybe, maybe not. But I don't see how a strikeout of Fielder and a poke past the 1B on a ball out of the zone is any indication either way.

The "cost" of the single shouldn't matter in assessing the performance of the pitcher.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:16 PM
Fisher in...I think the Reds are seeing the downside to all those darn complete games. Rusty relievers.

Really, don't see it.

This inning was a grounder to SS that should have been an out, but Escobar beat the throw. Lincoln was careful with Braun as he should have been. DRH ruined Fielder, and then McGehee hits a ball outside and at the shins to RF. Sometimes the breaks don't go your way.

Bigger problem this game was all the runners the Reds stranded in the first through fourth innings.

flyer85
05-18-2010, 04:17 PM
Herrera did his job, he got the LHB out.

membengal
05-18-2010, 04:18 PM
wild pitch, but the brewers tv crew criticizing hanigan for his poor blocking attempt. It's a fair criticism frankly.

edabbs44
05-18-2010, 04:18 PM
ugh

Degenerate39
05-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Wild pitch. Braun scores.

4-1 Brewers.

Then they get Hart to K. 3 outs

CTA513
05-18-2010, 04:18 PM
4-1 Brewers after a wild pitch scores another run.