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redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 05:41 PM
Heisey RF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Hernandez C
Stubbs CF
Janish SS
Leake P

sabometrics
05-25-2010, 05:49 PM
Good to see Janish getting a start. Despite a good performance at the plate yesterday O-Cab deserves to sit after an error and a boneheaded play on the basepaths + he could probably use the rest anyways.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 06:56 PM
Man, I just have a feeling Leake is gonna get rocked. I have it for the past 2 games he's pitched. I mean, everyone has a bad outing once in a while..right? lol

Reds
05-25-2010, 07:42 PM
...O-Cab deserves to sit after an error and a boneheaded play on the basepaths + he could probably use the rest anyways.

bingo.

lots of speed playing this evening.

dannyh765
05-25-2010, 08:02 PM
Allright fellow Reds fans, I know it's a bit of a pain in the butt, but I think if we all take 5 minutes everyday and fill out 25 ballots we might be able to get some Reds in.

It's actually pretty easy.. Once you fill out the first ballot you can just type in the confirmation code and then submit the same ballot over and over.

The goal is to get the NL team with all REDS STARTERS!! Just cut and paste the link below. God's speed!

//mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2010/ballot.html

LETS GET IT DONE AND SUPPORT THE REDS

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:14 PM
My goodness!

I'm in shock!

Janish actually gets to start at Shortstop AND it's a night game.

I'm totally stunned.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:15 PM
Allright fellow Reds fans, I know it's a bit of a pain in the butt, but I think if we all take 5 minutes everyday and fill out 25 ballots we might be able to get some Reds in.

It's actually pretty easy.. Once you fill out the first ballot you can just type in the confirmation code and then submit the same ballot over and over.

The goal is to get the NL team with all REDS STARTERS!! Just cut and paste the link below. God's speed!

//mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2010/ballot.html

LETS GET IT DONE AND SUPPORT THE REDS

I've never seen a "zero" post person before.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:16 PM
I will be maxing out my vote on Reds for the AllStarGame during the game tonight. :)

easy 1-2-3 11 pitches for leake in the first.

He does have 0 post lol

Vottomatic
05-25-2010, 08:16 PM
I just voted 5 times. I gotta leave soon.

Seņor Rojo
05-25-2010, 08:19 PM
Janish is a nice surprise, but the real story here is that Bruce is not starting against a lefty. Wise decision, Dusty.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:19 PM
Votto keeps on keepin on

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:21 PM
Joey needs to make the all-star game. I mean really...

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:23 PM
I knew Votto was having a good year.. but leading the NL first basemen in 5 or 6 key statistical categorizes.. I did not know that.

arkimadee
05-25-2010, 08:24 PM
man i forgot about Brett Tomko

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 08:24 PM
3 ground outs for Maholm is not a good sign

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:25 PM
Tomko might still be with the A's.. not sure if they ever released him..

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:27 PM
3-6-3 DP

Comeon Leake..2 hits already!!! :bang: lmao

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:28 PM
3-6-3 DP



Take notes Aaron Harang.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:30 PM
leadoff walk..walks will haunt!

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:31 PM
Reds need to get rid of Leake. 19 pitches to complete 2 innings. That is definitely not the Cincinnati way.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:31 PM
leadoff walk..walks will haunt!

What's the stat? They score like 61% of the time?

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:31 PM
leadoff walk..walks will haunt!

loved the old graphic for that at Riverfront :beerme:

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:33 PM
http://omgreds.com/uploaded_images/walksRiverfront-716737.jpg

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:33 PM
damn it. another DP

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:35 PM
St. Louis in San Diego tonight.

Go Padres!

arkimadee
05-25-2010, 08:35 PM
http://omgreds.com/uploaded_images/walksRiverfront-716737.jpg
i hated the seats behind that stupid thing.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:36 PM
haha, yeah I sat there during a thunderstorm once, those seats were rubbish

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 08:37 PM
Maholm and his career 2.49 ERA against the Reds is dealing again. I hope Leake has an 8 inning 1-2 run performance in him

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:38 PM
3 hits already. Need a DP here

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:38 PM
dang. Nice throw to second Mike!

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:39 PM
Mike Leake is not a pitcher, he is a player. Can anyone see Aaron Harang making that play?

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:39 PM
3 hits already. Need a DP here

:thumbup:

arkimadee
05-25-2010, 08:39 PM
nice inning..

bigredmechanism
05-25-2010, 08:40 PM
Mike Leake is not a man. He is the man. Looks like an everyday player what with his athleticism out there.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:41 PM
VERY impressive fielding from Leake and throws from Janish.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:42 PM
27 pitches for three innings. Excellent.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:42 PM
Janish with a knock

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:43 PM
Mike Leake is not a pitcher, he is a player. Can anyone see Aaron Harang making that play?

After watching him lumber like an elephant around the basepaths yesterday,....no, I can't see Harang making that play.

arkimadee
05-25-2010, 08:43 PM
I missed it. What did he say about the Action Figures?

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:44 PM
Please, Aaron Harang. Take some notes. You're not half the pitcher Mike Leake is....mentally. The groundball is your friend, Mr. Harang. Use it when there's runners on base.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:44 PM
After watching him lumber like an elephant around the basepaths yesterday,....no, I can't see Harang making that play.

That should be embarrassing for Harang. You run (if you can call it that) from 1st to home and need a heart transplant? He might want to try getting in shape. Just a thought.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:44 PM
I missed it. What did he say about the Action Figures?

It is being delayed. Dealing with vouchers and stuff. After June 11 maybe? Also giving a 1/2 price ticket too.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:45 PM
Not available this weekend. you get voucher for a half price ticket and you get on in the future, by mail or at the park.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:46 PM
1 of 3 options

you can pick them up at any game from june 11 on
pick up at reds home game
or they will mail them to you

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:46 PM
1 of 3 options

you can pick them up at any game from june 11 on
pick up at reds hall of fame. or they will mail them to you

x

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:46 PM
Leake shows Maholm how to sacrifice a runner over.

arkimadee
05-25-2010, 08:47 PM
They must have spelled his uniform name wrong in China

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:47 PM
Let's get a base knock here and give Leake a lead.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:48 PM
Tough break there. Still scoreless.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:49 PM
They are playing at a reasonable clip tonight. I like it.

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 08:49 PM
Ugh, Maholm just seems to pitch well or get some luck against the Reds.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 08:50 PM
Ugh, Maholm just seems to pitch well or get some luck against the Reds.

soft tossing lefties, always kills the reds. has for years

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:50 PM
They are playing at a reasonable clip tonight. I like it.

Typical Mike Leake performance.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:52 PM
It's not baseball related but they actually have a restuarant here in central NC (greensboro) called Cincys were they serve 4 and 5 ways... it's so weird.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 08:55 PM
tough break there.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:57 PM
There are two or three starters that should be taking copious notes each and every time Mike Leake takes the mound.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 08:57 PM
It's not baseball related but they actually have a restuarant here in central NC (greensboro) called Cincys were they serve 4 and 5 ways... it's so weird.

Have you had them? Are they any good? They have a restaurant in Houston called James Coney Island. Avoid at all costs. Those conies will gag you.

Reds
05-25-2010, 08:58 PM
Have you had them? Are they any good?

yeah, it taste kinda like Gold Star.

http://www.cincysdowntown.com/

only open for lunch, right downtown. i dig it.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 08:58 PM
There are two or three starters that should be taking copious notes each and every time Mike Leake takes the mounds.

Everyone not named Bronson.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:00 PM
yeah, it taste kinda like Gold Star.

http://www.cincysdowntown.com/

only open for lunch, right downtown. i dig it.

:beerme:

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:00 PM
It's got to be pretty special watching Leake pitch. He's a master.

With a guy like him it takes 4 good at-bats to get a run off of him.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:02 PM
Another chance for a base hit and the lead.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:02 PM
Here's our 4th opportunity with a runner in scoring position. Sooner or later, we're going to come through with a run.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:02 PM
2 out lightning here!

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:04 PM
cmon Ramon! 3-0 pitch!

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:04 PM
Terrible. That's a 3-0 swing?

Edit, my earlier post. I hope Leake has a CG in him. Reds hope to get Maholm out of the game and try and score off the bullpen.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:04 PM
Green light on 3-0 for Hernandez. Interesting. Unless he just ignored another sign.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:05 PM
Hernandez has been excellent for the REDS w/ RISP this year and last.

I'd always give him a green light on 3-0.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:06 PM
Leake may have been determined to throw a shutout anyway after the fiasco of his last start.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:08 PM
Leake may have been determined to throw a shutout anyway after the fiasco of his last start.

I said the same thing this morning! lol. How mad would you be?

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:08 PM
I'm sure he was more upset "they" lost that game that "he" did.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:10 PM
I'm sure he was more upset "they" lost that game that "he" did.

yep. It would be bad enough to blow it and win, but to blow it and lose, wow..

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:11 PM
Was that almost another Double-play? I don't have the visual.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:12 PM
Leake hasn't let a runner get to 2nd through 5 innings.

That's "controlling" the situation.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:12 PM
Was that almost another Double-play? I don't have the visual.

yes. It was a 3 hopper to Janish. No chance to turn it.

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:13 PM
Was that almost another Double-play? I don't have the visual.

High hop to the SS, hard slide into second busted it up. it got past votto, stayed in play.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:16 PM
Thank you, both.

It's bizarre how easy Mike Leake is making the Major Leagues look. Fernando Valenzuela had a tremendous start as a Rookie, but then he pretty much evened out after that. The rest of his career was based mostly on reputation from that first half of his rookie season. He really wasn't much more than an average pitcher after that. (Of course, he also was asked to throw too many innings and that probably ruined his career. This is also where Dusty Baker learned how pitchers are supposed to be handled.).

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:18 PM
The home plate umpire, apparently not wanting either team to score tonight, calls a 3-0 pitch that missed the strike zone strike 1, and two pitches later Janish pops out to LF.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:19 PM
Leake singles

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
Leake singles

:beerme:

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
give mike leake a silver slugger award

Spazzrico
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
Leake has quickly become one of my favorite Reds. Just plain solid that kid is.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
On to the 6th

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
Leake might be a better hitter than Owings. Seriously.

Of course, unfortunately he's a better hitter than most of the lineup tonight.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:20 PM
or the 6th. =)

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Leake has quickly become one of my favorite Reds. Just plain solid that kid is.

mine too. Him Joey and Jonny

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:21 PM
Mike Leake just put together the best at bat by a Red tonight. If the rest of that team isn't embarressed right now there is something wrong with them.

Seņor Rojo
05-25-2010, 09:22 PM
I know this has been brought up, but if Strasburg has any kind of start similar to Leake's people would be saying he'd make the Hall of Fame.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:25 PM
Leake might be a better hitter than Owings. Seriously.

Of course, unfortunately he's a better hitter than most of the lineup tonight.

Yet, Dusty will still pinch-hit Cairo for Leake.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:26 PM
3rd Time through the lineup for both teams. This is where ALL pitchers suffer.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:26 PM
I know this has been brought up, but if Strasburg has any kind of start similar to Leake's people would be saying he'd make the Hall of Fame.

All the hype about him is pissing me off..No one is talking about Leake, and hes 4-0. Thats pretty damn good for a rookie in my book.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:27 PM
Braun just his one about 500 feet dead Center.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:28 PM
crap. Back to back 2 out singles. On the corners.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
nice job 4-4! on to the bottom of the 6th

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
crap. Back to back 2 out singles. On the corners.

Singles don't score too many runs.

It's those homeruns, triples and doubles that do most of the damage (see Aaron Harang).

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Six scoreless for Leake. Let's get this kid some runs.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Singles don't score too many runs.

It's those homeruns, triples and doubles that do most of the damage (see Aaron Harang).

+1

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Wow, Leake got away with one there. Missed his spot. Ball crushed, right at Stubbs

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 09:32 PM
All the hype about him is pissing me off..No one is talking about Leake, and hes 4-0. Thats pretty damn good for a rookie in my book.

haha and the thing is you have curt schilling going on espn telling them he could be the best pitcher in the majors when he gets there. i bet if you asked schilling, what do you think of mike leake, he'd be like who?

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:32 PM
the strike 2 pitch was brilliant tho

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:33 PM
LOL, will the Reds get one out of the infield this inning?

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:33 PM
Thats fine and dandy, he is a good pitcher for sure, but let him throw a MLB pitch 1st lol

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:33 PM
Reds have 9 pm dinner reservations. No time to take a pitch. 3 pitches, 3 swings so far this inning.

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:33 PM
LOL, will the Reds get one out of the infield this inning?

depends if the infielders took the field or not :D

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:33 PM
Leake's a guy who when people just look at his numbers when it comes to BABIP, they might say he's lucky. But to watch him pitch, guys really don't seem to put the good part of the bat on the ball against him all that often. So I'd say up to this point it certainly hasn't been all "luck".

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
LOL, will the Reds get one out of the infield this inning?

Ofcourse Votto will ;)

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
Reds are taking the lead this inning. Maholm magic wears off.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
dammit Joey

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:34 PM
Reds are the worst baserunning team in the league.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 09:35 PM
Reds are the worst baserunning team in the league.

yep. atrocious. go play little league ball over again. its piss poor

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:35 PM
on to the 7th

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 09:35 PM
Reds have been pathetic behind Leake. These last 2 games between errors, base running mistakes, and now no hitting it's been pretty bad.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:35 PM
It seems like they make a baserunning mistake about every other game.

bigredmechanism
05-25-2010, 09:36 PM
This is painful to watch right now. Shame, since Leake is hurling another good one.

Boston Red
05-25-2010, 09:36 PM
Like to see that replay again. Sure looked like Maholm's right foot broke the plain of the rubber.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:36 PM
Dusty even held a meeting and got on them about it. But I haven't seen any improvement in that area.

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:36 PM
Of course Votto will what?

Get picked off?:rolleyes::p:

Hope Leake can keep throwing 0's. Hate to see him get stuck with a loss because the offense did nothing.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:36 PM
Leake's a guy who when people just look at his numbers when it comes to BABIP, they might say he's lucky. But to watch him pitch, guys really don't seem to put the good part of the bat on the ball against him all that often. So I'd say up to this point it certainly hasn't been all "luck".

The Cubs traded away a guy like this because they didn't think he was very good.....Greg Maddux.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:37 PM
The Stubbs/Janish/Leake Offensive display will come through next inning.

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:38 PM
looking more and more like first team to score will win this.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:38 PM
Leake's a guy who when people just look at his numbers when it comes to BABIP, they might say he's lucky. But to watch him pitch, guys really don't seem to put the good part of the bat on the ball against him all that often. So I'd say up to this point it certainly hasn't been all "luck".

That's one reason I'm not a big advocate of BABIP. I mean, not every pitcher strikes out tons of guys. They do their damage by getting batters to swing at bad pitches and not hitting it solidly.

I think the same can be said of batters and their BABIP. If a guy hits the gaps a lot and keeps it on the ground a lot, he will have a high BABIP, but it doesn't mean he's lucky.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:38 PM
looking more and more like first team to score will win this.

We've got last at-bats.

I just don't want to see Cairo pinch-hitting for anybody.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
leadoff single. RH with a laser to erase him!

Reds
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
I'm down to where I only want to see Cairo in maybe a pitch running role.

bigredmechanism
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
Big out right there. Great job by the battery there.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:39 PM
LOL. See ya, Lastings. Wouldn't wanna be ya.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
3 guys have 2 hits against Leake (with no damage so far as they are all singles).

5 guys have no hits against Leake.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
2 out single.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
Big out right there. Great job by the battery there.


Anything you can do, I can do better.


Pick us off. We'll throw your baserunner out.

bigredmechanism
05-25-2010, 09:40 PM
cedeno is a reds killer.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:41 PM
EE getting props from mlb-network right now....deservedly so after the week he's had.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Bye bye Maholm. Lets score!!

Boston Red
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Leake is pretty good.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Make that 4 guys with 2 singles each and 5 guys with nothing (and liking it!).

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
7th inning stretch. Where is my box of Cracker Jacks?

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:42 PM
Lets score!!

The strength of our Offense is up this inning.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:43 PM
7th inning stretch. Where is my box of Cracker Jacks?


http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HWEIMS8bVQhuQM:http://themansionboys.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/10018crackerjackposters.jpg

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:44 PM
7th inning stretch. Where is my box of Cracker Jacks?

I guess with all of our runs..hiding lol

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:45 PM
That's one reason I'm not a big advocate of BABIP. I mean, not every pitcher strikes out tons of guys. They do their damage by getting batters to swing at bad pitches and not hitting it solidly.

I think the same can be said of batters and their BABIP. If a guy hits the gaps a lot and keeps it on the ground a lot, he will have a high BABIP, but it doesn't mean he's lucky.

Same here. I mean I understand the importance and significance of the stat, but at the end of the day I still believe it comes down to how good the pitches are the guy is throwing, and what kind of bat control, plate discipline, and pitch recognition the hitter has.

But I suppose that's why some people look at line drive percentages and other stats besides just babip by itself.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:45 PM
The strength of our Offense is up this inning.

well votto isn't, so..

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
Hernandez doubles. Stubbsie is on fire..lets keep it up

bgwilly31
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
did hernandez really try to bunt his way on. lol

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:46 PM
Ok. Runner in scoring position with one out. Let's get it done. 1 run is all it will take.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:48 PM
surprise surprise.. stubbs ks

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:49 PM
Make Dusty proud, Paul.

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:49 PM
I wonder when the last time a guy came into the league and did what Leake is doing. I mean obviously going straight to the majors with no time in the minors adds to the uniqueness of what Leake is doing in and of itself. But there have been rookie sensations who have come in and pitched as well or maybe even better than what Leake has so far. But I think for the most part they were probably flashier, more of the power pitcher type than just a guy who goes out and pitches and executes the way Leake does.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:49 PM
surprise surprise.. stubbs ks

Actually, it is a surprise as he's been great since moving to the #7 hole, especially when it comes to knocking in runs.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:50 PM
I wonder when the last time a guy came into the league and did what Leake is doing. I mean obviously going straight to the majors with no time in the minors adds to the uniqueness of what Leake is doing in and of itself. But there have been rookie sensations who have come in and pitched as well or maybe even better than what Leake has so far. But I think for the most part they were probably flashier, more of the power pitcher type than just a guy who goes out and pitches and executes the way Leake does.

It hasn't happened in my lifetime and I'm about to turn 51.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:50 PM
Help yourself Leake!!

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 09:51 PM
I wonder when the last time a guy came into the league and did what Leake is doing. I mean obviously going straight to the majors with no time in the minors adds to the uniqueness of what Leake is doing in and of itself. But there have been rookie sensations who have come in and pitched as well or maybe even better than what Leake has so far. But I think for the most part they were probably flashier, more of the power pitcher type than just a guy who goes out and pitches and executes the way Leake does.

Fernando-mania

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:51 PM
LET LEAKE HIT... yeah dusty!!!

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:51 PM
what a pitcher's duel.. i usually don't like games like this, but hats off to these pitchers

get one here leake

texasdave
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Leake giving the fans a thrill.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
wow. just missed

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
wow

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:52 PM
Glad to see Dusty not pinch-hit here.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:53 PM
Fernando-mania

Fernando went to the minors first, though, and for two seasons.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:54 PM
on to the 8th.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:55 PM
Catfish Hunter was the last to do it and pitch at least 10 years in the majors.. he retired in 1979 and no one has done it since

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:56 PM
Give us 1 more scoreless inning Mike..we WILL win you this game!!

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 09:57 PM
Fernando went to the minors first, though, and for two seasons.

Read what he said again. He wasnt asking about pitchers that didnt go to the minors, he was talking about rookies that did well but werent "flashy, power pitcher types." While Fernando-mania itself was flashy, Fernando as a pitcher wasnt. He had a good screwball but didnt throw heat. Was a pitcher not a thrower.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:57 PM
I am very nervous here lol..idk why

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:58 PM
are you serious Drew?~!?!?!?!?!? Thats how we lose this damn game!!!!!!! my god man, my god

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Catfish Hunter was the last to do it and pitch at least 10 years in the majors.. he retired in 1979 and no one has done it since

There you go. Since I was 6 years old (in 1965, Hunter's first season in professional baseball), I can't say I was aware of that at the time.

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 09:58 PM
Yikes

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
1-0. ballgame

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
4th time through the lineup now. Leake now in the 90's in pitch count. Probably his last inning.

bigredmechanism
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
Wow. Great fielding there, Stubbs.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
are you serious Drew?~!?!?!?!?!? Thats how we lose this damn game!!!!!!! my god man, my god

i think we're gona lose this game by not scoring any runs

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
Bad Drew Stubbs showed up tonight. Offensively and defensively. I can understand losing a ball in the lights, I guess. But what a bad time to do it.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
if stubbs isnt gonna hit, then take his ass out. how does that happen? he doesnt bring anything, hes defense sucks now too.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 09:59 PM
unbelieveable. just unbelievable

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
are you serious Drew?~!?!?!?!?!? Thats how we lose this damn game!!!!!!! my god man, my god

What happened?

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
i think we're gona lose this game by not scoring any runs

Its a lot easier to win it when its 0-0, instead of 1-0

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
Get out of this inning somehow with only 1 run given up, and we got the top coming up. Only shot we got.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
What happened?

lost the ball in the air, lands 20 ft behind him.

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 10:00 PM
Catfish Hunter was the last to do it and pitch at least 10 years in the majors.. he retired in 1979 and no one has done it since

Jim Abbott says hi!

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:01 PM
What happened?

lost a ball in the lights. It was 45 feet from him.

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:01 PM
What happened?

Routine fly ball to center fielder... short center, Drew lost the ball in the lights or something and it falls behind him for a triple.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:01 PM
lost a ball in the lights. It was 45 feet from him.

You're not supposed to do that at home. It's excusable on the road, but not at home.

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Your CF is supposed to be your best overall OF out there on the field. Get the hell off the field Stubbs you scrub. Holy ****!

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:02 PM
You're not supposed to do that at home. It's excusable on the road, but not at home.

inexcusable. and if hes not hitting. what use is he? is he even hitting .200 yet?

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:02 PM
Jim Abbott says hi!

That was quite a story.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:03 PM
You're not supposed to do that at home. It's excusable on the road, but not at home.

why are players losing the ball in the lights all of a sudden. Sure, ive seen it before, but this is like the 5-6 time in the past 2 weeks I have seen it..

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 10:03 PM
inexcusable. and if hes not hitting. what use is he? is he even hitting .200 yet?

.213, guy is a ****ing joke

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:04 PM
AR has to get 2 outs to even have a shot

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:04 PM
inexcusable. and if hes not hitting. what use is he? is he even hitting .200 yet?


He's been hitting over .300 since moving to the #7 hole with 15 rbi's.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
Another great performance by Leake!

:beerme:


Only 97 pitches. He keeps on that pitch count and he can pitch through the end of August, maybe into September, too.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:06 PM
I can handle him losing the ball in the lights, but the timing of it is bs. 0-0 game in the 8th..cmon man

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:07 PM
He's been hitting over .300 since moving to the #7 hole with 15 rbi's.

how many AB's in 7 hole, and against who...i dont expect that to keep up

NeilHamburger
05-25-2010, 10:07 PM
I've never seen a team let down a player more then this team has let down Leake in these last 2 starts.

I'm going to take a jog outside. If I said how I really felt about this team right now I'd be in trouble.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
Ill say it again "Arthur Rhodes does, what Arthur Rhodes does" - Marty

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 10:08 PM
That was sweet

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:09 PM
Nice job, REDS.

Rally Time!

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:09 PM
Dusty needs to bring in Bruce pronto! We need some runs.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 10:09 PM
Two innings to get a run. I know people make fun of the RISP stat. But it's hard to put a lot of runs on the board if you don't hit with RISP.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:10 PM
Two innings to get a run. I know people make fun of the RISP stat. But it's hard to put a lot of runs on the board if you don't hit with RISP.

even more important is OBP imo, which if i'm not mistaken dusty scoffs at

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:10 PM
bruce, wtf

Seņor Rojo
05-25-2010, 10:11 PM
And that is why Bruce did not start tonight. Something with those lefties...

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:11 PM
nice ab Bruce..wtf was that?!?

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:11 PM
BP!

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Yessssss b philllllllllllll

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Jack me Phillips!!!!!!

texasdave
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Good ole Brandon

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Mike leake thanks you b phil

texasdave
05-25-2010, 10:12 PM
Leake is off the hook. That would have been one tough loss.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:13 PM
back to back anyone? :)

texasdave
05-25-2010, 10:13 PM
Why did they take Maholm out?

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 10:13 PM
Leake is off the hook. That would have been one tough loss.

Shutouts gnaw at me anyway but a 1-0 loss is just the absolute worse.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:13 PM
i am just happy for leake now.. no way should a guy get a loss for a game like that

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:14 PM
Looking at some of the names mentioned, I don't know if any of them really are doing exactly what Leake did. Catfish Hunter actually started out coming out of the bullpen. Jim Abbott at the same point in his career was solid and isn't a bad comparison. He had a shutout to his name, but he also had a couple of starts where he didn't make it out of the 5th inning.

Fernando was just plain silly in 1981 at this point in the season, putting up better numbers than Leake. But one could say he had the benefit of being with the Dodgers some in 1980 and pitching out of their pen that year. I'd say he was a pretty good strikeout guy too, even if he wasn't your traditional power pitcher. 8 starts into his 1981 season, he had 4 games with 10 or more K's.

Just makes me appreciate even more what Leake has done up to this point.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:14 PM
Neither pitcher deserved to take the loss tonight. Glad it worked out.

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 10:15 PM
What did I tell you guys???? If we got out of the inning we were going to be OK with the top of the lineup, lets go!!!

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:15 PM
oh god, please no cordero

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:15 PM
Fernando was just plain silly in 1981 at this point in the season, putting up better numbers than Leake. But one could say he had the benefit of being with the Dodgers some in 1980 and pitching out of their pen that year. I'd say he was a pretty good strikeout guy too, even if he wasn't your traditional power pitcher. 8 starts into his 1981 season, he had 4 games with 10 or more K's.



He also pitched in a cavern there at Dodger stadium then.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:16 PM
Congrats to Brandon on his 100th career dinger.

Seņor Rojo
05-25-2010, 10:16 PM
Too anxious fellas. Calm down and approach the at bat like its any other one.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:17 PM
rhodes staying in according to sheldon

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:19 PM
Two innings to get a run. I know people make fun of the RISP stat. But it's hard to put a lot of runs on the board if you don't hit with RISP.

The REDS are 2nd in the National League in "Percentage of Baserunners who score on that batter's play (not necessarily an RBI).

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/NL/2010-situational-batting.shtml

That says that the REDS are more clutch as anyone but one team in the National League.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:19 PM
1 down. Masset coming in

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:19 PM
He also pitched in a cavern there at Dodger stadium then.

Yep... but I certainly wouldn't slight what he did.

As a matter of fact, that year in his first 8 starts, he'd thrown 5 shoutouts, 2 more complete games, and 5 of this 8 starts came on the road.

That's insane to even think about.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:20 PM
Congrats to Brandon on his 100th career dinger.

That was one to remember.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:20 PM
why even take him out? rhodes is doing work

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:21 PM
Yep... but I certainly wouldn't slight what he did.

As a matter of fact, that year in his first 8 starts, he'd thrown 5 shoutouts, 2 more complete games, and 5 of this 8 starts came on the road.

That's insane to even think about.

It was insane and deserving of the "Fernando-mania".

ILoveWilly
05-25-2010, 10:21 PM
Please don't put the $10 million dollar bust in.

Kingspoint
05-25-2010, 10:21 PM
I hope Cordero doesn't have to pitch tonight.....that we can win this without him.

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:21 PM
I just don't want to lose this game at all now.

Losing to the Pirates isn't like going to the prom with your sister. It's more like going to the prom with your mom. I might even say grandma, but I'll be nice.;)

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:22 PM
[QUOTE=Redeye fly;2096029]I just don't want to lose this game at all now.

QUOTE]

same here man.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:24 PM
2 down

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:25 PM
I hope Cordero doesn't have to pitch tonight.....that we can win this without him.

I agree. We need a walk off if we want to win this.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:26 PM
I swear to god Masset..I just thought about this happening..Ill be damned if it didnt happen

HalMorrisRules
05-25-2010, 10:26 PM
Crap

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:27 PM
F u masset i hate you i hate you

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:27 PM
Ugh... I feel like we're going to be walking arm in arm with mom.

FlyerFanatic
05-25-2010, 10:27 PM
i'll say it again, whats wrong with keeping rhodes in?

ILoveWilly
05-25-2010, 10:27 PM
Can we trade him back for Junior? I rather have Junior asleep in the clubhouse than this worthless junk pitcher.

rolenmvp
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
folks remember? we are still 7 games over 500.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
GTFO Masset. Go back home.

Maker_84
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
game..set..match. our bullpen just straight sucks besides rhodes which is why we will fall off eventually

Seņor Rojo
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
i'll say it again, whats wrong with keeping rhodes in?

Because he's a lefty and only should be used against lefties and or specific situations only.

^Dusty logic

Redeye fly
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
i'll say it again, whats wrong with keeping rhodes in?

40 years old and you have to be careful with him, I guess. Which makes some sense. But Dusty shouldn't treat him like he's some sort of lefthanded specialist who can't retire a right handed batter.

rolenmvp
05-25-2010, 10:28 PM
some of you, act like its life or death. it's just a game.

sivman17
05-25-2010, 10:29 PM
some of you, act like its life or death. it's just a game.

i hate when people say this

rolenmvp
05-25-2010, 10:30 PM
well it's true..some of you don't realize its just a baseball game. I got a job, family. GOd that is more important, yes reds are fun but still its just a game.

cbowen2112
05-25-2010, 10:30 PM
Doumit hits switch but, if he were batting righty, he would not have hit that out against Rhodes.

redsfan_12
05-25-2010, 10:30 PM
some of you, act like its life or death. it's just a game.

dumbest saying ever.

texasdave
05-25-2010, 10:30 PM
Octavio "Feed the Fire" Dotel on. Two runs, please.

Reds42MLB
05-25-2010, 10:30 PM
Nick Masset won't be with a MLB team after the Reds. Enjoy Florida chump.

For the guy talking about GOD, he doesn't exist. Enjoy believing that BS though.

cbowen2112
05-25-2010, 10:31 PM
Nick Masset won't be with a MLB team after the Reds. Enjoy Florida chump.

For the guy talking about GOD, he doesn't exist. Enjoy believing that BS though.



Dumb argument...