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_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:40 PM
Cordero in. Paulino done.

Tony Cloninger
05-30-2010, 03:40 PM
I thought that he swung on a pitch way too inside...then i slowed it down and saw it moved over the plate. Good pitch.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:40 PM
Pence lines to Gomes for out #1

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Grounder to Phillips. Quickly 2 down.

Tony Cloninger
05-30-2010, 03:41 PM
NO walk off celebrations. Just a nice high five and go to St. Louis.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:42 PM
NO walk off celebrations. Just a nice high five and go to St. Louis.
Just don't jump onto home plate like an idiot and everyone will be fine.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:42 PM
2-0 now. Cards over Cubs.

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Cordero gets 'em 1-2-3 in the 9th on 9 pitches.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Tapper back to Coco. 1-2-3.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Nice inning from Coco.

Walkoff for either Rolen or Votto. Mark it down.

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Nice inning from Coco.

Walkoff for either Rolen or Votto. Mark it down.

or Stubbs....

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Or Corky... :O) 'stache to win it!

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Nix will take his revenge for getting screwed in his last AB.

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Gomes, Nix, Hernandez due up.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Brandon Lyon in. He's been one of Houston's best pen arms.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Run with Stubbs?

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:47 PM
I'd have Stubbs pinch run for Gomes here....

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Single for Gomes through the left side.

Reds Fanatic
05-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Good way to start with a leadoff single.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:48 PM
I'd have Stubbs pinch run for Gomes here....

Good call. I would too.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Definatley bunting and definatley running with Stubbs now.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:48 PM
passed ball. Nix was bunting.

Called a wild pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Wild pitch moves him to 2nd

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Why no Stubbs here? Speed could make a real difference in this situation.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Owings up in the pen.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Let Nix hit don't bunt.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Let Nix hit don't bunt.

Won't matter. No chance they wouldn't IBB him here to put the DP in play.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Keep bunting.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Razor up with 2 on no outs.

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:51 PM
And that's why you pinch run with Stubbs.

Just dumb Dusty.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:51 PM
I don't think so. They called Gomes out there. He looked safe to me. On the replay too.

mbgrayson
05-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Stubbs would have made it to 3rd....

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Rolen ph'ing.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
The run is already in scoring position, why bunt again?

Degenerate39
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Stubbs would've been safe

flyer85
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
I'll never figure Dusty out, if you are going to bunt you have to PR

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
The run is already in scoring position, why bunt again?
Get the runner to 3rd with 1 out.
They walk Rolen.

Votto with the bases loaded and one out.

WebScorpion
05-30-2010, 03:52 PM
We got some nice pinch hitters available today! ;)

reds44
05-30-2010, 03:54 PM
Wow Votto isn't even available to PH?

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:54 PM
IF pop out from Rolen. Stubbs PH'ing.

Degenerate39
05-30-2010, 03:55 PM
Wow Votto isn't even available to PH?

Can his neck be that bad?

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:56 PM
4-0 cards over cubs now.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Stubbs walks! Bases jacked for Ocab!

pedro
05-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Fabulous ab by stubbs to draw walk after being down 0-2.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Fabulous ab by stubbs to draw walk after being down 0-2.

True. :thumbup:

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Has OCab ever taken 4 pitches in the same AB?

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:00 PM
13 bb's this year.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:01 PM
DARN! I thought that might be a gapper. Fly out to pence. Extras.

guttle11
05-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Oh man, this team is awful. ;)

Caveat Emperor
05-30-2010, 04:02 PM
With a huge series against the Cardinals coming up, now is not a good time to be going into extra innings and burning through the bullpen.

Tom Servo
05-30-2010, 04:02 PM
With a huge series against the Cardinals coming up, now is not a good time to be going into extra innings and burning through the bullpen.
I say send Owings out there, to win or lose the game.

Tony Cloninger
05-30-2010, 04:03 PM
So now they decide to go into a hitting slump....right before STL.

GOYA
05-30-2010, 04:04 PM
With a huge series against the Cardinals coming up, now is not a good time to be going into extra innings and burning through the bullpen.

Number of pitches thrown today

Fisher 7
Rhodes 14
Masset 4
Cordero 9

But who knows in extras.

Caveat Emperor
05-30-2010, 04:04 PM
So now they decide to go into a hitting slump....right before STL.

They ran the B-team out today for getaway day, so a low offensive output isn't shocking -- but you'd think they'd be able to dent the plate ONCE against this team.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:10 PM
back to back walks.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:12 PM
Kepp pops out to Rolen. 2 down for Berkman.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Double to the corner. 2-0 Astros. You knew it was only a matter of time with Berkman.

reds44
05-30-2010, 04:13 PM
Owings still isn't any good.

Kc61
05-30-2010, 04:14 PM
Reds are a pretty good club but need to bolster the bullpen.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:15 PM
Lindstrom warming for the Astros. Their best arm in the pen.

Lee lines out to Nix in center but the damage is done. 2-0 Astros. Do we have any magic for the last AB?

membengal
05-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Walking stiffs in front of Berkman. Not a good thing, Micah.

Ah well.

guttle11
05-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Bullpen issues. Dusty has them.

Need (good) arms.

Tony Cloninger
05-30-2010, 04:16 PM
Don't deserve to win this game....and for one of the few times..IMO...I can go ahead and blame some of it on Baker..... but I also know if Votto could hit, Stubbs would have been PR instead of PH.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:17 PM
Bullpen issues. Dusty has them.

Need (good) arms.

this guy on the bump for the Astros is a guy I'd target.

Degenerate39
05-30-2010, 04:18 PM
Seriously why isn't Votto hitting for Cairo?

Tony Cloninger
05-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Here is something to make you laugh...On EBay i just saw a 1974 Horacio Pina baseball card up for bid for $70. I am now looking for my Dick Baney and Spicio Spinks cards.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:19 PM
He's not available. Dusty made the decision before the game and is sticking to it.

reds44
05-30-2010, 04:19 PM
Seriously why isn't Votto hitting for Cairo?
Why would you hit Votto when he's not the tieing/go ahead run?

What a play by Blum.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Seriously why isn't Votto hitting for Cairo?

He would have PH last inning if he was going to PH.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Brandon with a liner over Manzella. Tieing run comes to the plate in Bruce.

Degenerate39
05-30-2010, 04:20 PM
Why would you hit Votto when he's not the tieing/go ahead run?

What a play by Blum.

Because he's better than Cairo and has a better chance to get on base

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Because he's better than Cairo and has a better chance to get on base

he also has a better chance of reaggravating the injury and not being available for the STL series.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:21 PM
Bruce flies out to Bourn. It's up to Jonny.

TheNext44
05-30-2010, 04:22 PM
Howndid Jay miss that?

reds44
05-30-2010, 04:22 PM
Because he's better than Cairo and has a better chance to get on base
No. PHing with Votto there doesn't make sense. If he was gonna PH, he would have in the 9th isntead of Stubbs.

_Sir_Charles_
05-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Ballgame. Tough loss guys. Just ran into a buzzsaw today in Paulino. But let's have everybody healthy and ready for the roadtrip.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Well that's that.

Tom Servo
05-30-2010, 04:25 PM
Loss sucks, but it happens.

Degenerate39
05-30-2010, 04:28 PM
No. PHing with Votto there doesn't make sense. If he was gonna PH, he would have in the 9th isntead of Stubbs.

I would've liked to seen him pinch hit there. Stubbs should've pinch ran for Gomes at 2nd anyway. Is his neck really this bad?

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 04:31 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Votto sits out again Monday.

If he was ready he would've hit in the 9th inning.

Tom Servo
05-30-2010, 04:35 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Votto sits out again Monday.

If he was ready he would've hit in the 9th inning.
If he isn't ready to play tomorrow I expect him to be put on the DL, retroactive May 25th, of course.

Ron Madden
05-30-2010, 04:38 PM
If he isn't ready to play tomorrow I expect him to be put on the DL, retroactive May 25th, of course.

That's the way I see it as well.

Raisor
05-30-2010, 05:18 PM
Is his neck really this bad?

well he's missed four games, so yeah.

Will M
05-30-2010, 05:44 PM
I would've liked to seen him pinch hit there. Stubbs should've pinch ran for Gomes at 2nd anyway. Is his neck really this bad?

i thought Stubbs should have pinch run after Gomes's single. the next batters would have been Nix-Hernandez-Janish-PH (Rolen). If i managed a team i would almost never sacrifice bunt unless it was a pitcher batting. in the 9th if Stubbs was on 1rst he could steal if the pitcher/catcher combo wasn't good at stopping the running game. or he could score from first on a double.

flyer85
05-30-2010, 08:27 PM
i thought Stubbs should have pinch run after Gomes's single. if you are going to bunt you need to pinch run ... dusty screwed it up a few weeks ago and today. If you are going to try and bunt a runner over you have to get your fastest runner out there.

TheNext44
05-30-2010, 10:29 PM
if you are going to bunt you need to pinch run ... dusty screwed it up a few weeks ago and today. If you are going to try and bunt a runner over you have to get your fastest runner out there.

I agree, but it's not like Nix is slow. He's probably one of the top 5 fastest Reds. But considering how fast Stubbs is and if he scores, the game is over, I would pinch run him no matter who was on base.

reds44
05-30-2010, 11:08 PM
I agree, but it's not like Nix is slow. He's probably one of the top 5 fastest Reds. But considering how fast Stubbs is and if he scores, the game is over, I would pinch run him no matter who was on base.
Gomes got thrown out at 3rd on a very close play, Stubbs most likely beats that ball and the bases would have been loaded with nobody out.

Difference between winning and losing right there.

Ron Madden
05-31-2010, 01:34 AM
Gomes got thrown out at 3rd on a very close play, Stubbs most likely beats that ball and the bases would have been loaded with nobody out.
Difference between winning and losing right there.

Agreed.

oneupper
05-31-2010, 12:18 PM
Gomes got thrown out at 3rd on a very close play, Stubbs most likely beats that ball and the bases would have been loaded with nobody out.

Difference between winning and losing right there.

If Stubbs is running they throw to first and get Hernandez. Things may or may not have turned out differently in the end, but they just lost a PH for the inning.

After watching the ninth inning again "en frio" , Dusty's moves were pretty much by the book. Hernandez bunts, Rolen for Janish, Stubbs for P.
If we have to criticize anything (and we DO have to), it would be that he's been much too predictable. Once in a while he has to mix it up a bit. Maybe it wasn't this time (Hernandez' bunt), but at some point, he's going to have to go a bit against the book to keep opponents honest.