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mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 03:42 PM
Lineup per C. Trent:

1. Cabrera 6
2. Cairo 3
3. Phillips 4
4. Rolen 5
5. Gomes 7
6. Bruce 9
7. Stubbs 8
8. Hernandez 2
9. Arroyo RHP

Degenerate39
05-31-2010, 04:15 PM
Anyone think Miller will get a start this series?

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 04:17 PM
Cards lineup:

F. Lopez SS
R. Ludwick RF
A. Pujols 1B
M. Holliday LF
D. Freese 3B
C. Rasmus CF
Y. Molina C
S. Schumaker 2B
J. Garcia P

alloverjr
05-31-2010, 04:20 PM
Game doesn't look good on paper.

BearcatShane
05-31-2010, 04:35 PM
Game doesn't look good on paper.

Idk. Bronson handled the Cards well in both of his previous starts this season, 17 IP, 3 ER. Garcia is good, but the Reds have some righties who are mashing. I think the Reds have a solid chance.

redsmetz
05-31-2010, 04:42 PM
Idk. Bronson handled the Cards well in both of his previous starts this season, 17 IP, 3 ER. Garcia is good, but the Reds have some righties who are mashing. I think the Reds have a solid chance.

I was thinking I'm glad Arroyo's starting this game.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 04:47 PM
Much has been made of Ubaldo Jimenez and his absurd 0.88 ERA (512 ERA+!!) on the season, but Jaime Garcia is right behind him with his ERA sitting at a ridiculous 1.14 (358 ERA+).

Is this kid ever going to come back to Earth?

Degenerate39
05-31-2010, 05:04 PM
Much has been made of Ubaldo Jimenez and his absurd 0.88 ERA (512 ERA+!!) on the season, but Jaime Garcia is right behind him with his ERA sitting at a ridiculous 1.14 (358 ERA+).

Is this kid ever going to come back to Earth?

He will today

Degenerate39
05-31-2010, 05:08 PM
Also the chat is open

reds1869
05-31-2010, 05:14 PM
Anyone think Miller will get a start this series?

I think he will start Lecure's game because they've worked together so much.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:19 PM
Cabrera flies out to right.

PuffyPig
05-31-2010, 05:20 PM
Much has been made of Ubaldo Jimenez and his absurd 0.88 ERA (512 ERA+!!) on the season, but Jaime Garcia is right behind him with his ERA sitting at a ridiculous 1.14 (358 ERA+).

Is this kid ever going to come back to Earth?

3.72 xFIP suggests it will.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 05:21 PM
Jaime Garcia's BABIP is .255. When that normalizes a bit (.300), and the league sees him a time or two, his ERA will come up.... While 7.32 K/9 is good, the 3.9 BBs per nine is not that great.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:21 PM
Cairo grounds out to short. 2 outs.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:22 PM
Garcia got a good call on strike one to Cairo...it was outside by a couple of inches.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:22 PM
Not quite sure what Cairo was looking for there. He got a 3-1 fastball belt high right down the middle of the plate, yet he took it. He then promptly grounds to the SS on the next pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:22 PM
Phillips singles to left.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:23 PM
Stay close here BP

The Operator
05-31-2010, 05:24 PM
Jaime Garcia is bound to face a correction soon - right?

I mean, yes the guy is good, but he's not 1.13 ERA good if you ask me.

I'd love to see The Reds send him regressing back to the mean a bit today.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:24 PM
Rolen singles to center. Good hustle as Phillips goes to 3rd and Rolen then advances to 2nd.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:24 PM
Very nice, heads up play by Brandon.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:25 PM
Gomes singles to left. 2-0 Reds!!

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Atta boy Jonny!

Can we just start each inning with 2 outs from now on?

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Woohoo! 2-0 Redlegs! Scoring with 2 outs, this just is incredible what this team does with 2 down.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Gomes numbers are amazing with 2 outs and runners in scoring position.

The Operator
05-31-2010, 05:26 PM
Te amo, Senior Gomes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:28 PM
Very nice, heads up play by Brandon.

Marty was saying he faked out the Cards by slowing up nearing 2nd like he was going to stop and then turned the burners on. Ended up at third AND got Rolen to second on the throw. Really heady play.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:28 PM
Bruce flies out to left. 2-0 Reds mid 1st.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 05:29 PM
Good teams score runs with two outs.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:29 PM
The 8th and 9th earned runs for Garcia given up this year.

ERA goess from 1.13 to 1.42 in one swing. :-)

reds44
05-31-2010, 05:29 PM
Alright Bronson, you got your 2 runs, go get em.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:32 PM
Lopez strikes out swinging.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:32 PM
Make that 1.44 on the earnie.

Nice to get 20 pitches out of him too.

And all w/ 2 outs. mmmmmmmm

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:32 PM
K

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:33 PM
Ludwick doubles to left center.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:34 PM
Ludwick doubles to left center.

Wasn't even a bad pitch by Bronson. Looked like a curveball on the outside third at the knees. Pretty good bit of hitting by Ludwick.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:36 PM
IBB, good move.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:36 PM
On a 3-1 count they intentionally walk Pujols.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:36 PM
Roy Oswalt got smoked today.....'stros down 14-2 to the Nats.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:37 PM
This ump's got a tiny strike zone.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Holliday pops out to 2nd. 2 outs.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:37 PM
That's 3 times Arroyo has stepped off to get new signs from Hernandez.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Pop up to Phillips. Nice.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:37 PM
Roy Oswalt got smoked today.....'stros down 14-2 to the Nats.

I think he got tossed in the 3rd for arguing balls and strikes.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:38 PM
This ump's got a tiny strike zone.

I was thinking the same thing. But I think Bronson'll adapt to that quicker than Garcia will.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:39 PM
I think he got tossed in the 3rd for arguing balls and strikes.

Reminds me of that scene in Hoosiers where Coach Dale is begging the ref to toss him.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:39 PM
Nice. Freese grounds into a 6-4 FC. 2-0 Reds after 1.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:39 PM
Grounder to OCab to escape the mini-threat. 2-0 Reds after 1

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:40 PM
Reminds me of that scene in Hoosiers where Coach Dale is begging the ref to toss him.

Kinda what the Houston sports announcers are thinking too. Trying to get tossed because he's fed up playing with that team.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 05:42 PM
That's 3 times Arroyo has stepped off to get new signs from Hernandez.

Tough part about having Hanigan out of the lineup -- I think Hanigan has caught Arroyo every game this season and most of last season as well.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:42 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging. 1 out.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:43 PM
Sounds like the Reds resurrected the Braves' season. With their win today over the Phillies, Atlanta's taken over 1st in the NL East.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:44 PM
4 pitch walk to Hernandez

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 05:44 PM
nm....RF's got the PBP under control.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:45 PM
Wow, the two runs the Reds scored in the 1st were the first two runs scored on Garcia all year long in St. Louis. Mercy.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:46 PM
Arroyo tries a bunt and strikes out. 2 outs.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:46 PM
Arroyo tries a bunt and strikes out. 2 outs.

Sweet. ;)

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:47 PM
Hernandez almost got picked off

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:48 PM
Cabrera strikes out swinging. 2-0 Reds mid 2nd.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:49 PM
Chris enjoying saying 'butcher boy'

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:49 PM
Pretty nasty curveball that Garcia's got. He fans the side in the 2nd.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 05:50 PM
Pretty nasty curveball that Garcia's got. He fans the side in the 2nd.

Has he thrown a curveball for a strike yet? It seems like every one of his breaking pitches have been out of the zone.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:50 PM
Jimenez just continuing his unbelievable season today. Has already struck out 4 in the first 2 innings. ERA is down to 0.86

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:51 PM
Rasmus doubles off the wall in left.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:53 PM
Molina grounds out to short. Runner goes to 3rd. 1 out.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:53 PM
I'd walk Skip here.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:53 PM
Infield playing in with 1 out and Schumaker up.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:54 PM
Schumaker sac fly to right. 2-1 Reds. 2 outs.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 05:55 PM
Hmmmmmm... I didn't like that pitch to Skip....

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 05:55 PM
Arroyo missed with that pitch. Should not have been a strike.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:56 PM
Arroyo missed with that pitch. Should not have been a strike.

And ball 2 should have. Ump has a goofy zone today.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:56 PM
Garcia singles to center.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 05:57 PM
ump not giving the low strike. that could be deadly for Arroyo.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 05:58 PM
Every extra base runner you put on brings you that much closer to having to face Pujols again. You simply cannot put low-OB guys on base in this lineup.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 05:58 PM
And ball 2 should have. Ump has a goofy zone today.

This ump is really starting to bother me. Postage stamp strike zone out there.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 05:59 PM
Lopez grounds out to Arroyo. 2-1 Reds after 2.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 05:59 PM
This ump is really starting to bother me. Postage stamp strike zone out there.

Yet some screwy high strikes getting called. There's absolutely no consistency to this zone today.

VR
05-31-2010, 05:59 PM
Of his three pitches to Lopez....#3 was the lowest. And that was called the strike.

I think this dude has his mind on a bbq after the game.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 05:59 PM
This ump is really starting to bother me. Postage stamp strike zone out there.

He's new. trying to announce his presence with authority.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:00 PM
Miguel Cairo due up to lead off the 3rd, followed by Phillips and Rolen. Let's do some more damage here.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:00 PM
He's new. trying to announce his presence with authority.

"This is the NFL son. That stands for 'Not For Long' when you're making calls like that" Glanville

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 06:01 PM
Yet some screwy high strikes getting called. There's absolutely no consistency to this zone today.

If Gameday is accurate, the ump is having a really bad day.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:01 PM
Looking at the radar there seem to be thunderstorms heading toward St. Louis

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:02 PM
You can't stop Miguel Cairo. You can only hope to contain him.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:02 PM
Cairo leads off with a single.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 06:02 PM
Votto ver. 2.0 with a single up the middle. 7 game hitting streak for Cairo.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:03 PM
Votto 2.0 with a single up the middle.

Cairomatic? The Cai-Roller?

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:03 PM
Phillips grounds out to Garcia. Cairo goes to 2nd. 1out.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:04 PM
Cairo leads off with a single.

He hit a Cai-rope.


Lowest strike of the day....called on the 6'4" Scott Rolen.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 06:04 PM
A run here would be huge. Get back the one you just gave up.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 06:05 PM
Rolen's mad he missed that pitch

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Rolen swung at Ball 4 twice, the second time grounding out to Pujols.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Rolen grounds out to 1st. 2 outs runner on 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Intentional walk to Gomes

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Did you ever think you'd see the day where Jonny Gomes was feared enough to draw the intentional pass?

Neither did he.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
IBB to Gomes. 1st & 3rd for Bruce. I want Bruce to be pissed off by this right now.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:06 PM
Pitching around Gomes to get to Bruce. Make 'em pay, Jay.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 06:07 PM
Good time for Bruce to show he can hit lefties

VR
05-31-2010, 06:07 PM
Pujols just sitting in the right field hole on the Rolen grounder. Very nice positioning.


This is a great shot for Bruce to put some serious fear into the National League.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:08 PM
If there was a faster runner on first, you could probably pick the Cardinal's pocket with a drag bunt down the 1st base line here.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:08 PM
Bruce flies out to right. 2-1 Reds mid 3rd.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:09 PM
And Bruce pops up.

Keep putting guys on, good things will happen.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:09 PM
And Bruce pops up.

Keep putting guys on, good things will happen.

At least you're running the dude's pitch count and forching him to throw high-stress pitches with men on.

Nothing worse than letting a guy like this get comfortable throwing out of the windup for multiple innings at a time.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:10 PM
Radar in the St. Louis area:

http://radarimg.weatherbug.com/images/AWSRadars2/bugradar_metro/21/radar0.web.jpg?rnd=2-053120101702&size=4

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:10 PM
Bruce looked like he was bailing there against Garcia. He's gotten stay down on that pitch low and away.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:10 PM
At least you're running the dude's pitch count and forching him to throw high-stress pitches with men on.

Nothing worse than letting a guy like this get comfortable throwing out of the windup for multiple innings at a time.

Good point. 52 pitches through 3 for Jaime.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:12 PM
Ludwick flies out to right.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:12 PM
Man, Arroyo's curveball got picked up by the wind on that pitch. Wicked break there.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:12 PM
Bruce can cover some ground out there. Kicked into a serious high gear on that ball that looked destined to end up in no man's land.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:13 PM
That curve was crazy.... Holy

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:13 PM
Pujols lines a single to left.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:13 PM
That was a really good pitch Albert just went down and hit it.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:14 PM
Pujols lines a single to left.

Hell of a hit from him... Low and outside.. He went and got it.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:14 PM
Pujols lines a single to left.

Another pretty good pitch from Arroyo that ends up as a base knock.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:14 PM
99% of anyone who has played the game miss that pitch or pound it into the ground to the shortstop.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:14 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again -- I can't wait until Pujols is wearing Yankee Pinstripes.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:15 PM
I've said it before, I'll say it again -- I can't wait until Pujols is wearing Yankee Pinstripes.

I see him in Boston.... Youk goes to 3rd.

Yanks have way to much tied up in Tex at 1st.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:15 PM
I see him in Boston.... Youk goes to 3rd.

Yanks have way to much tied up in Tex at 1st.

They can move Tex to DH.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:16 PM
Holliday walks. That pitch was close. 1st and 2nd.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 06:16 PM
I can see this wind playing havoc with Bronson's breaking stuff.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:17 PM
Freese grounds out to 3rd. Runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:17 PM
Seemed like Rolen could've easily beat Pujols to 3rd, or at least tagged him out.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:17 PM
This strike zone is beyond bothersome today. I'd love to see PitchFX or even the Fox Trax on some of these, because it looks like this ump is missing on judging where breaking balls are crossing the plate.

Tom Servo
05-31-2010, 06:17 PM
Seemed like Rolen could've easily beat Pujols to 3rd, or at least tagged him out.
I think Pujols would have trucked him.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:18 PM
Broken bat ground out to 2nd ends the inning. 2-1 Reds after 3.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:19 PM
I think Pujols would have trucked him.

Ha, probably. No matter as Rasmus grounds harmlessly to 2nd.

Bottom of the order due up for the Reds in the 4th.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 06:19 PM
After three innings, Reds 2, Cardinals 1.

Arroyo at 58 pitches, 33 strikes.
Garcia at 52 pitches, 31 strikes.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:19 PM
Broken bat ground out to 2nd ends the inning. 2-1 Reds after 3.

I love Bronson Arroyo. If I'm Walt Jocketty, I'm actively talking with Bronson's agent about reducing the cost of the option next year in exchange for more years on the deal.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 06:19 PM
This strike zone is beyond bothersome today. I'd love to see PitchFX or even the Fox Trax on some of these, because it looks like this ump is missing on judging where breaking balls are crossing the plate.

Gameday has the ump missing over a dozen calls so far today. Not sure how accurate it is, but that's what it's saying.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:20 PM
Rain delay. They pulled the tarp out before the rain even started.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 06:20 PM
Rain delay. severe weather advisory, with high winds.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:20 PM
Gameday has the ump missing over a dozen calls so far today. Not sure how accurate it is, but that's what it's saying.

Aren't the umps evaluated after every performance with the help of a Questec like system?

Tom Servo
05-31-2010, 06:20 PM
Damn you, St. Louis.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:22 PM
Damn you, St. Louis.

If I'm the Reds, I like rubber-arm Arroyo being able to stay warm over Garcia trying to stay warm during the delay.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:22 PM
Based on the radar this looks like we may be headed toward a long delay

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 06:23 PM
1 hour delay -- never mind that. This is a bullpen game now.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:23 PM
Never seen a rain delay in the middle of a game with no rain or lightning.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:23 PM
Based on the radar this looks like we may be headed toward a long delay

Pic says they're estimating an hour delay.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:23 PM
A fricking hour!!!!!!!! Hopefully Owings has some innings left in his arm

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 06:24 PM
Central Update:

Brewers lost 13-5 to the Fish
Cubs lost 2-1 to the Buccos
Astros lost 4-14 to the Nats

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:25 PM
There is one big storm headed in now and that will be at least an hour then a break then another storm further to the west past that. This could be a long night.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 06:25 PM
A delay here isn't all bad. This gives me a chance to get caught up on Lincecum v Jimenez on MLB Network. :thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 06:26 PM
Never seen a rain delay in the middle of a game with no rain or lightning.

Smart move by the umps. I'd say it's raining now. :O)

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:26 PM
A delay here isn't all bad. This gives me a chance to get caught up on Lincecum v Jimenez on MLB Network. :thumbup:Jimenez now with 7 Ks through 4 innings. ERA down to 0.84

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:27 PM
A delay here isn't all bad. This gives me a chance to get caught up on Lincecum v Jimenez on MLB Network. :thumbup:

Thanks for the heads up. :thumbup:

Tom Servo
05-31-2010, 06:28 PM
Some rain delay "entertainment"

YouTube - JTM Jingle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joX9SLgA2zc)

YouTube - Bronson Arroyo JTM commercial "Together again" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTQpX--WRz0)

YouTube - Farmers Only Commerical (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RvyFFjP7RE)

YouTube - Scott Rolen Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuKLh8qjvQ)

reds44
05-31-2010, 06:30 PM
Would anybody be surprised if Bronson stayed in?

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:31 PM
Would anybody be surprised if Bronson stayed in?

Nope... Atleast for another inning or two I wouldn't be.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:32 PM
Would anybody be surprised if Bronson stayed in?

If it's 1 - 1/2 hours....I could be ok w/ that.

Garcia...much less likely I'd say.

Puffy
05-31-2010, 06:47 PM
This strike zone is beyond bothersome today. I'd love to see PitchFX or even the Fox Trax on some of these, because it looks like this ump is missing on judging where breaking balls are crossing the plate.

He is terrible. Wildly inconsistent. Both sides but much moreso towards Arroyo. There was one pitch to Lopez that was right down the middle called a ball. And it was a fastball so you can't blame movement. He is going to get toasted by MLB after the game when he receives his report.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:53 PM
Still Raining....

CrackerJack
05-31-2010, 06:57 PM
Cards players blaming rain on the Reds yet?

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 06:57 PM
Rain starting to stop... Ground Crew is starting to stir....

toledodan
05-31-2010, 06:59 PM
Cards players blaming rain on the Reds yet?

:D

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 06:59 PM
6:20 they are supposed to resume the game.

VR
05-31-2010, 06:59 PM
5:20 start time

RBA
05-31-2010, 07:13 PM
3:20 start time. ;) Pacific

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:14 PM
Garcia & Arroyo both warming.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 07:18 PM
4:20 start time (Mountain Time)

VR
05-31-2010, 07:18 PM
Not liking the way the pen is set up too much....a 5 inning 2-1 Reds win would be ideal here.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:20 PM
And we are back... called strike to Stubby

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:20 PM
1 hour 1 minute delay

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:20 PM
And we are back... called strike to Stubby

The same low strike he's been calling a ball all game on Arroyo.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:20 PM
Stubbs reaches on a error by Freese.

VR
05-31-2010, 07:21 PM
Good eye by Stubbs....followed by a single (ruled E5, but hopefully they come to their senses)

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:21 PM
Stubbs speed causes an E5

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:21 PM
I like Stubbs working Garcia there -- long lay off for him, see if his command is still there.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:21 PM
Hernandez grounds to Garcia. Stubbs goes to 2nd.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:22 PM
Razor advances Stubby to 2nd with a short chopper back to the pitcher.

oneupper
05-31-2010, 07:22 PM
"Stubby"?

RBA
05-31-2010, 07:22 PM
C'Mon BA! Knock em in

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:23 PM
Bloop single to left for Arroyo. 1st and 3rd.

Playadlc
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
OC! Nice!

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
Cabrera singles to left. 3-1 Reds! 1st and 2nd.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
OCab with an RBI to left....

RBA
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
That's Reds Baseball!

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
They're nickel and diming Garcia to death -- and I'll absolutely take.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
Cairo grounds into a 5-3 DP. 3-1 Reds mid 4th.

RBA
05-31-2010, 07:25 PM
Hopefully Arroyo has 3 more inning in him.

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:25 PM
They won't change Stubbs' E5 to a single to protect Garcia's ERA. STL's scorekeeper is well known for doing that

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 07:26 PM
Three of the five Reds hitters in the 4th hit the first pitch. Eleven pitch inning altogether.

Playadlc
05-31-2010, 07:26 PM
They won't change Stubbs' E5 to a single to protect Garcia's ERA. STL's scorekeeper is well known for doing that

I thought it was an error.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
I thought it was an error.

Yeah, he had the ball with plenty of time to make the throw. It was just a bad play by Freese.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
Molina flies out to right on the first pitch

George Anderson
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
George Hendrick was Seaver's 3,000 KO victim.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
1 pitch, 1 out. Fly out to Right.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
Are scorekeepers hired by the clubs or by MLB? It should be MLB like umpires. Just curious.

RBA
05-31-2010, 07:27 PM
thank God for sunglasses

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
2 pitches, ground out to 2nd. 2 out.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
Are scorekeepers hired by the clubs or by MLB? It should be MLB like umpires. Just curious.I am pretty sure they are hired by the clubs.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
"Stubby"?

Considering how often he strikes out, I was trying to get his nickname to be Stubby K. But I think most on this board are too young to get it.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
Schumaker grounds out. 2 outs on 3 pitches.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
Where in the world did that first pitch to Garcia miss??

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 07:28 PM
George Hendrick was Seaver's 3,000 KO victim.

Wasn't he the last out in Seaver's no hitter too?

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:29 PM
Ughh.. 4 pitch walk

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:29 PM
4 pitch walk to Garcia

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:29 PM
4 pitch walk to the PITCHER. Grrrrrrrrr

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:29 PM
Babe Garcia.

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:29 PM
Man, this ump is bad. I mean, really bad.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 07:30 PM
Stubbs speed causes an E5

Exactly why errors should count toward OBP. A batter has more control over that than HBP.

oneupper
05-31-2010, 07:30 PM
4 pitch walk to the PITCHER. Grrrrrrrrr

At least one was a strike. This ump's zone is wacky.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:30 PM
Wasn't he the last out in Seaver's no hitter too?I think that is right.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:31 PM
Lopez singles to right. 1st and 3rd.

TheNext44
05-31-2010, 07:31 PM
Bruce a bit lazy there.

mth123
05-31-2010, 07:32 PM
Reds playing like Airheads. Arroyo not concentrating against the pitcher and Bruce not throwing there.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:32 PM
This doesn't look good. Need to get Ludwick here.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 07:32 PM
George Hendrick was Seaver's 3,000 KO victim.

Keith Hernandez.

George Anderson
05-31-2010, 07:32 PM
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Wasn't he the last out in Seaver's no hitter too?

Thats what I meant...to many brews.


:beerme:

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:32 PM
This is bad. Really. Really. Bad.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Ludwick singles to right. Bruce throws to 3rd. That allows Ludwick to go to 2nd. 3-2 Reds.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Yup. This is trouble.

I'd really like them to figure out how to retire Ryan Ludwick.

mth123
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Airhead again. That time he shouldn't have thrown to 3B.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Cards' grounders are finding holes. 'Course the 2-out walk to the pitcher set all this up.

Tom Servo
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
walks will haunt

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Don't even mess around. IBB to the great one.

oneupper
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
A walk to Pujols is in order.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:33 PM
Intentional walk to Pujols

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:34 PM
walks will haunt

Walking the pitcher is among the dumbest thing you can do in a baseball game. There are VERY few pitchers who have the ability to hit for extra bases, and even fewer who have the power to take you out of the yard.

Throw strikes, and let them beat you doing the thing they DON'T work on all the time.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:34 PM
4 pitch walk to the pitcher. No excuse for that. And the sole reason for THIS.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:34 PM
Crap. Holliday doubles to left. 4-3 Cards

Tom Servo
05-31-2010, 07:34 PM
I hate the Cardinals so much.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Double for Holiday. 4-3 Cards. Should've been a single. Gomes lollygagged the ball back to third.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
All because you walked a guy who can't hit.

mth123
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
4 pitch walk to the pitcher. No excuse for that. And the sole reason for THIS.

Didn't even look like Arroyo was trying. Now a 2 run single. Gomes with a non-chalant throw. The Reds checked out during the delay.

Degenerate39
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
You get two easy outs on 3 pitches. Then you walk the damned pitcher on 4 pitches.

CTA513
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
All because you couldn't throw a strike to the pitcher.

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:35 PM
Reds are getting Reds'd w/ 2 outs.

Playadlc
05-31-2010, 07:36 PM
Keep em' here.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:36 PM
Didn't even look like Arroyo was trying. Now a 2 run single. Gomes with a non-chalant throw. The Reds checked out during the delay.

Well, they did score a run immediately after the delay. But yeah, things have gotten very sloppy here in the home half. Uncharacteristic of this year's Reds.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
Well, they did score a run immediately after the delay. But yeah, things have gotten very sloppy here in the home half. Uncharacteristic of this year's Reds.

They better get CHEWED out when they reach the dugout.

mbgrayson
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
I think having the outfield in the sun with the infield in shadow makes it harder for the outfielders to see what is going on.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
Holy hell this ump is awful.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
Wow that 2-2 pitch looked good.

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
He's killing me!

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:37 PM
This zone is really sucking.... Holy Smokes

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
Whew. That was close.

Playadlc
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
RING HIM UP!!!!!!!!!

Degenerate39
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
One of the worst umps I've seen

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
Whew. Freese flies out to the warning track in left. 4-3 Cards after 4.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:38 PM
Deep out to the LF wall.

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:39 PM
Cards are a good team, and like most good teams would do, they've battled back. Now it's up to the Reds to show what they got.

3, 4, 5 due up this inning.

11larkin11
05-31-2010, 07:40 PM
Patience this inning. Make Garcia work this ump.

mth123
05-31-2010, 07:41 PM
Cards are a good team, and like most good teams would do, they've battled back. Now it's up to the Reds to show what they got.

3, 4, 5 due up this inning.

Battled? 4 Lazy lobs outside the zone to the pitcher. A lazy throw from each COF to allow extra bases and a missed cut-off man by the RF. Ugly inning by the Reds.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:41 PM
Cards are a good team, and like most good teams would do, they've battled back. Now it's up to the Reds to show what they got.

3, 4, 5 due up this inning.

They're annoying -- a seemingly endless supply of good players both in the field and on the mound. Every year, they seem to find some new guy to sub-3.00 ERA baseball and hit .300.

RedsMan3203
05-31-2010, 07:42 PM
Lead off single by BP to left.

_Sir_Charles_
05-31-2010, 07:42 PM
Battled? 4 Lazy lobs outside the zone to the pitcher. A lazy throw from each COF to allow extra bases and a missed cut-off man by the RF. Ugly inning by the Reds.

True, but the Cards did hit solid basehits there too. Can't completely ignore their effort there.

Single by Phillips! Let's get it going again! Smack 'em down...HARD!

Screwball
05-31-2010, 07:42 PM
Battled? 4 Lazy lobs outside the zone to the pither. A lazy throw from each COF to allow extra bases and a missed cut-off man by the RF. Ugly inning by the Reds.

Yes, they battled back. They hit the ball sharply. Took advantage of what the Reds gave them, and the point is the Reds are now trailing. Let's see how they respond to adversity.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:42 PM
Phillips singles to left.

Caveat Emperor
05-31-2010, 07:42 PM
But, on the plus side, at least Felipe Lopez is still an awful defender.

Reds Fanatic
05-31-2010, 07:44 PM
Rolen strikes out looking. This ump is horribly inconsistent.