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mth123
06-06-2010, 01:27 PM
It worked yesterday, so I'll start it again for luck today. Need a lot of luck with the Sunday special.

Cabrera - SS
Cairo - 3B
Votto - 1B
Phillips - 2B
Bruce - RF
Nix - LF
Stubbs - CF
Miller -C
Arroyo - P

Miggy, Corky and Laynce all at once. Need big days from Bruce and Votto. Maybe Cairo recaptures his magic of a couple weeks ago.

PuffyPig
06-06-2010, 01:29 PM
Corky and Cairo pretty expected with Hernandez sure not to play, and Rolen generally not playing a day game after a night game.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 01:31 PM
Nix will probably make me regret saying this but Heisey needs to start over Nix. Outside of a few good starts this season he hasn't been very good.

GAC
06-06-2010, 01:31 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/20080123/80x60/cin.gif

O. Cabrera ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
M. Cairo 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .295
J. Votto 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321
B. Phillips 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .287
J. Bruce rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .268
L. Nix lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .232
D. Stubbs cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .231
C. Miller c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
B. Arroyo p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .167

http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/mlb/teams/20080123/80x60/was.gif

C. Guzman 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .314
N. Morgan cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .258
R. Zimmerman 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .310
A. Dunn 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .276
J. Willingham lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .277
R. Bernadina rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .247
I. Desmond ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .274
W. Nieves c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .186
C. Stammen p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .300

Edd Roush
06-06-2010, 01:34 PM
Can't really complain too much with the lineup. I would expect bruce to get an off day tomorrow against zito and hopefully heisey gets a start in his place.

GAC
06-06-2010, 01:37 PM
Hope Cairo's bat can carry the absence of Rolen today. Not sure, but the last time he filled in for Rolen at 3B was in that Atlanta debacle where he committed a very critical error.

Just noticed that this kid pitching for the Nats (Stammen) is from up around my neck of the woods - Coldwater, Ohio.

He's never faced the Reds till today. He's winless since beating Colorado on April 19. The right-hander did not get a decision for a third straight start last Tuesday night, when he gave up five runs and nine hits in five innings of an 8-7 loss to Houston.

Edd Roush
06-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Hope Cairo's bat can carry the absence of Rolen today. Not sure, but the last time he filled in for Rolen at 3B was in that Atlanta debacle where he committed a very critical error.

Just noticed that this kid pitching for the Nats (Stammen) is from up around my neck of the woods - Coldwater, Ohio.

He's never faced the Reds till today. He's winless since beating Colorado on April 19. The right-hander did not get a decision for a third straight start last Tuesday night, when he gave up five runs and nine hits in five innings of an 8-7 loss to Houston.
Stammen is actually a graduate of the University of Dayton. I wish he would represent a little bit better, but he can wait to turn it around until after this start.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 02:09 PM
Today is my wedding anniversary. :) GO REDS!

OT. Cairo is not in the lineup for Rolen. He's in for Hernandez, since a dash of Venezuelan flavor is required to spice up the team menu.

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 02:14 PM
D-Day!

The Reds should have called up Danny Dorn just for today!

Big Klu
06-06-2010, 02:16 PM
It worked yesterday, so I'll start it again for luck today. Need a lot of luck with the Sunday special.

Cabrera - SS
Cairo - 3B
Votto - 1B
Phillips - 2B
Bruce - RF
Nix - LF
Stubbs - CF
Miller -C
Arroyo - P

Miggy, Corky and Laynce all at once. Need big days from Bruce and Votto. Maybe Cairo recaptures his magic of a couple weeks ago.


I don't know if I would call this a "Sunday Special". There are five starters in the lineup, as well as the fourth OF and a backup INF who was a contender for NL Player Of The Week last week.

RedsZone would have straight-out hated Sparky's lineups in 1975 and Lou's in 1990--both were well-known for giving their subs plenty of playing time.



Can't really complain too much with the lineup. I would expect bruce to get an off day tomorrow against zito and hopefully heisey gets a start in his place.

I wouldn't mind giving Cabrera a day off at some point during the homestand, too.

GAC
06-06-2010, 02:30 PM
Today is my wedding anniversary. :) GO REDS!

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY GUY!


OT. Cairo is not in the lineup for Rolen. He's in for Hernandez, since a dash of Venezuelan flavor is required to spice up the team menu.

Huh? Are you trying to be funny? :D

GAC
06-06-2010, 02:37 PM
Chat is open! :beerme:

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:38 PM
OC, lead off double

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 02:38 PM
leadoff double for OCab.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Warm in DC today: 88 is the game time temp.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Cario bunts OC to 3rd, out at 1st.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:39 PM
Votto singles in OC! 1-0 Reds

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
Gotta beat up on teams like the Nats if the Reds want to stay in contention.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
BP flies out to center.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:42 PM
I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:42 PM
Bruce grounds out to 2nd..

Reds 1, Nats 0 bt 1

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 02:44 PM
I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

Agreed. Bunting is way over used. That was a good example of a place not to do it.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:45 PM
Guzman doubles to right.

RedsManRick
06-06-2010, 02:45 PM
With 2-3-4 coming up and a fast guy on 2B, why in the world do you make an out on purpose, when a hit scores the runner and there's a decent chance an out will advance the guy to 3B anyways.

It's one thing if you're going up against Lincecum and runs are likely to be scarce. But there's absolutely no reason to give Craig Stamen free outs.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:46 PM
I could see it if you're buting a man into scoring position, but not when a runner is on second. Old school tactics. And from the looks of things we're going to need some runs.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:46 PM
Morgan bunts Guzman over to 3rd, out at 1st.

Edd Roush
06-06-2010, 02:46 PM
I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

If we were talking about votto bruce phillips rolen or gomes bunting, I could agree with you. But we are talking about cairo. Might as well let him move the runner over in case votto does hit a loing fly ball. Votto is really good but you can't expect him to get a hit every at bat.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:47 PM
Zimmerman singles home Guzman.

RedsManRick
06-06-2010, 02:49 PM
I could see it if you're buting a man into scoring position, but not when a runner is on second. Old school tactics. And from the looks of things we're going to need some runs.

Managers who played ball in the 70's when runs were harder to come by and outs were less valuable simply don't understand how the calculus changes in a different run scoring environment.

I wonder how many managers actively seek professional development to hone their craft and stay up on industry trends the way most other professionals do.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Dunn strikes out swinging....

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Oh well. Day game. Bad Arroyo. SOS. We're going to need some runs, boys.

RedsManRick
06-06-2010, 02:49 PM
Both managers give up an out for no good reason.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:50 PM
Willingham lines out to BP

1 to 1 after 1

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:53 PM
Nix singles to right

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:54 PM
These red uniforms the Nats are wearing look so much like the Reds' so-called Sunday uniforms, that it isn't funny. Confusing.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:54 PM
Stubby hits one oppo to the track... Just a long out

GAC
06-06-2010, 02:55 PM
free beer in chat!!!

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:55 PM
Miller flies out to center on the 1 pitch.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
This lineup is Hackers Anonymous. Could be a long day.

westofyou
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Hey Corky Miller...Gorman Thomas called, he wants his mustache back.

jojo
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Corky just looks like a ball player...

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Arroyo singles to left..

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 02:56 PM
Corky just looks like a ball player...Yeah. Disco Ball.

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 02:57 PM
I don't know about you guys, but this thing of bunting a runner over to third drives me batty. He would have scored anyway on Votto's hit and we waste an out. Now it's 2 outs, any hope for more runs is gone. silly stuff

I agree with you.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 02:59 PM
OC lines a rope out to SS.

1-1 after 1.5

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:02 PM
And Nats open up with a single to right.

Puffy
06-06-2010, 03:04 PM
This lineup is Hackers Anonymous. Could be a long day.

Or they are just doing what the scouting report of Stammen says. Fastballs over plate early in counts, maybe??

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:04 PM
Desmond strikes out swinging.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:05 PM
Or they are just doing what the scouting report of Stammen says. Fastballs over plate early in counts, maybe??

Yep. Methinks second time around they'll be waiting him out.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:06 PM
Nieves pop fly out to shalllllllow center.... Stubby with great range.

jojo
06-06-2010, 03:07 PM
Stubbs is like defensive AFLAC.....short and left are in full panic, Stubbs isn't even challenged

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:07 PM
Stammen grounds into a FC 6-4

1-1 after 2

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:11 PM
Cario grounds out to 2nd.. ho hum...

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:11 PM
Votto grounds out to 2nd... ho hum

jojo
06-06-2010, 03:13 PM
That ball would've been over Gomes head for a triple I bet...

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:13 PM
BP lines out to right.

Quick 1-2-3

1-1 after 2.5

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:14 PM
That was about 5-6 pitches max. There is aggressive and there is too aggressive...

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:15 PM
Guzman flies out to Stubbs in center.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:16 PM
Morgan flies out to Stubbs in center.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:17 PM
Zimmerman flies out to right.

Quick 1-2-3

After 3, 1-1

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 03:17 PM
A very quick, low pitch 3rd inning all around.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:20 PM
Bruce first pitch out. Now it's ridiculous.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:20 PM
You know...I can't figure out Jay Bruce. Hot for a week and now he's making some really poor decisions at the plate--confusing.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Nix 2 for 2.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:22 PM
It's amazing how much this club misses Rolen and Gomes when they are not in the lineup. They become the anemic Reds we came to loathe

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:24 PM
Oh yeah, and Hernandez-Hanigan, too. Man, this lineup is like the 1962 Mets.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:24 PM
Sorry all, Missed this inning.... Had to great some grub...

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
These Sunday Specials gripe me. Why take all your firepower out of the lineup on the same day? Sorry, but watching this 5.88 ERA pitcher pitch a clinic against the lineup we have today has me seeing red for some reason.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
Oh yeah, and Hernandez-Hanigan, too. Man, this lineup is like the 1962 Mets.

Not a good analogy. The '62 Mets could hit some, with Marv, Snider and all.
Their pitching and defense was atrocious.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:26 PM
You know...I can't figure out Jay Bruce. Hot for a week and now he's making some really poor decisions at the plate--confusing.

I've noticed Bruce is hands happy at the plate. It's alright to move the bat until the pitch comes, but Bruce is doing it up until the pitch is on him. Thus, his hands start in different spots before the swing. This might explain his lack of power and his ugly groundouts to second. Same thing every time at the plate is key just like a windup

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:27 PM
Looks like DC is starting to darken up..... Rain?

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:29 PM
Stubbs covering a whole county out there. Wow.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Poor Bronson. He could get messed up by a rain delay again. :eek:

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:30 PM
Stubbs covering a whole county out there. Wow.Simply amazing. Worth whatever offensive liability he has.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:31 PM
Bernadina walks on a borderline pitch.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Another 2 out walk burns arroyo

jojo
06-06-2010, 03:32 PM
Walls and Nix don't mix....

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Wow, that ball looked like it totally tailed off sideways in the wind. :eek:

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Too bad we don't have another Stubbs in left. He might have caught that. But Brosnan has no one to blame but himself. Pouring the rain

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:33 PM
Wow, that ball looked like it totally tailed off sideways in the wind. :eek:

Fortunately, cause it was was smoked. Could have gone out.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:34 PM
That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!Totally agree. Terrible call and Nix should have had that one.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:35 PM
That should have been a strike on the 3-2 count. Terrible call.

Then Nix botches ANOTHER ball against the wall. Is he afraid of the fence or something. Make the freakin' catch!

Agreed would have liked Keels to shut it for a second and see where that pitch was.

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 03:35 PM
I'd pinch hit here, rain is obviously near.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:36 PM
Agreed would have liked Keels to shut it for a second and see where that pitch was.Keels is the TV version of Steve Sloan. Full of trivia ad nauseum.

mth123
06-06-2010, 03:36 PM
Keels is the TV version of Steve Sloan. Full of trivia ad nauseum.

Steve Sloan?

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 03:37 PM
Guess Dusty knew something I didn't. Nice job Bronson.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Gotta get some runs. This pitcher is nothing special.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Steve Sloan?The Bad Boy. What was his name? How soon we forget.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:38 PM
Steve Stewart.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:39 PM
Low shuffle to Desmond nixes the DP. Whew.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:40 PM
Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 03:40 PM
Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

I like guy for OSU and Reds baseball... But thats just me.

GAC
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
oneupper......

I can't beleive you're spending your anniversary on a GT.......

AND NOT IN CHAT WITH SENSIBLE PEOPLE! :D

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
Has anyone listened to keels when he does Osu games? Does he get excited for touchdowns?

He's beyond terrible as any OSU fan will tell you.

"And the 2002 national championship goes to the Buckeyes..." (Said in a deep voice, yet one from a person that is likely on Valium.)

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:41 PM
Votto needs to wake up and have an atbat.

CTA513
06-06-2010, 03:42 PM
How awful would it be to have to watch Desmond and Guzman butcher plays all the time like they have this series?

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:42 PM
Nice play by Guzman there. Ball was on its way to right field.

GAC. I love you guys in Chat, but my mlb.tv feed runs behind.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
oneupper......

I can't beleive you're spending your anniversary on a GT.......

AND NOT IN CHAT WITH SENSIBLE PEOPLE! :D

And what are we? Chopped liver? Insults will get you nowhere, GAC.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
This is terrible. This pitcher has nothing and we've got one run. C'mon boys!

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:43 PM
He's beyond terrible as any OSU fan will tell you.

"And the 2002 national championship goes to the Buckeyes..." (Said in a deep voice, yet one from a person that is likely on Valium.)

Sounds like he should be announcing golf and tennis.

jojo
06-06-2010, 03:44 PM
Mike Rizzo was creeping me out by staring at the camera....

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:44 PM
Sounds like he should be announcing golf and tennis.

Absitively.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:45 PM
Nix didn't need to dive for that ball. Just sayin'.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:45 PM
Nix didn't need to dive for that ball. Just sayin'.

After he took that awful route, he did. :)

nate
06-06-2010, 03:45 PM
Mike Rizzo was creeping me out by staring at the camera....

At least it wasn't Frank Rizzo.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:46 PM
Keels almost got excited there. He thought about raising his voice then realized it's never worth it.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm gonna scream if Bruce swings at the first pitch. It's clear that someone told the lineup the pitcher who throws first pitch fastballs. That person I would like to punch for his hideous advice.

oneupper
06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Brandon first pitch pop up.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 03:49 PM
Is there a rule that when it's a day game, the Reds are instructed to hack?

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 03:50 PM
This is hard to watch.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 03:50 PM
Bruce has hit the ball on the ground 3 times in a row to the same spot. He looks terrible.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:50 PM
Best way to make an average pitcher better is to swing early in the count often.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Great goodness, Jay.

GoReds
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Is everyone in a slump right now? These aren't exactly Cy Young candidates out there.

GAC
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
GAC. I love you guys in Chat, but my mlb.tv feed runs behind.

we're not doing pbp.

We're too drunk guy! :p:

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 03:51 PM
Looks like a get back home plate approach

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 03:52 PM
Less than 10 pitches this inning, 3 outs.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Absolutely no plate patience today: Stammen through 6 on 60 pitches.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 03:53 PM
Nix just swung at a pitch on the ground. So many irregulars in the lineup today--3 to be exact and missing a major part of the offense as well as Bruce with his head far up his rectum is a gift from Dusty to the Nationals and their 5.88 ERA pitcher. Santa Baker?

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Absolutely no plate patience today: Stammen through 6 on 60 pitches.

That's ridiculous...10 pitches an inning. And this guy came into the game with an ERA in the high 5s.

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 03:55 PM
9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is two Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 03:56 PM
9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.


It feels that way to me too.

Gallen5862
06-06-2010, 03:57 PM
What inning is it? Is the score still 1-1? Is Arroyo still pitching? Any PBP or inning summaries would be apreciated.

GoReds
06-06-2010, 03:57 PM
2-1 Nats, bottom 6.

Arroyo is still in, pitching pretty well, but the Reds offense is in a coma.

Gallen5862
06-06-2010, 04:00 PM
How did the Nats take the lead?

jojo
06-06-2010, 04:00 PM
9 outs left to do something. I hate these Sunday games, this is two Sunday's in a row where I felt like the team just didn't try to win.

and this one might get rain delayed too....

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Like to see some patience here at least 15 pitches thrown this inning.

GoReds
06-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Arroyo walked Bernadina on a close pitch that should have been strike 3. Desmond then hit a ball that would have been gone on any other day, but the wind was blowing towards right. Looked like Nix had a chance to catch it, but couldn't bring it in.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:02 PM
How did the Nats take the lead?

In the 4th, two out walk on a bad full count call, followed by a Desmond double off the wall.

Gallen5862
06-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Thanks for the Info. Let's go Reds.

GoReds
06-06-2010, 04:02 PM
Angel Hernandez expands his strikezone as the rain starts to fall.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Stubbs is fast

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:03 PM
He needs to steal here.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

jojo
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Dunn flashing the leather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now he is no doubt mentoring Stubbs on how to steal bases...

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He's on the DL?

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He is on the DL.

GoReds
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Nice for Corky to take a couple pitches before hacking away. Sheesh.

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Now he needs to steal second & third

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps for past calls (not even ones today). Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

nate
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Any reason why Hanigan isn't playing? Corky flipping Miller. What a waste.

He's on the DL.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Wow, I think Mesoraco could give a better at-bat than Corky. What a joke.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:04 PM
Corky Miller looks like he just came from the set of deadwood. Which is kind of a good way to describe his hitting.

jojo
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
He's on the DL?

Nuthin' can keep Corky down...

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Orlando needs a hit right here.

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps. Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

The umps today or still talking about the first two games?

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Wow, pitching change for Nats. I don't get it? Stammen has mowed the REds down.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Wow, they're taking out their pitcher? That's odd.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
That was a curious move by the Nats

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 04:05 PM
Nationals take out their ace--the guy that held the Reds to one run.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
The umps today or still talking about the first two games?

The prior games

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Dibble is not very professional. He continues to pound the umps for past calls (not even ones today). Once was enough. Concentrate on the game, dude.

You're listening to Dibble? All of a sudden Keels doesn't sound so bad. ;-)

Rob "Traitor" Dibble. You would never know he played for the Reds (let alone won a WS title) listening to his dumb-@..

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
They have Storen, Clippard, and Capps ready to roll.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:07 PM
You're listening to Dibble? All of a sudden Keels doesn't sound so bad. ;-)

Rob "Traitor" Dibble. You would never know he played for the Reds (let alone won a WS title) listening to his dumb-@..

Not by choice...Extra Innings is showing the Nats telecast. And unfortunately, the Nats have shown all 3 feeds for the Nats this series. It has been miserable.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:07 PM
Bring on their overrated relievers.

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:07 PM
The prior games

Well Dibble never has shown the ability to let it go. Which is why he wasn't as good of a closer as he should have been.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:08 PM
What a horrible game

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:08 PM
Bring on their overrated relievers.

OCab flies to right. Inning over. You jinxed us!

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Cabrera looked surprised that he hit the ball. What the heck is up today? Just terrible at-bats left and right from the Reds. Terrible at-bats. Swinging like it's an 0-2 count when it's 1-0 or 2-0.

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:09 PM
Worst game I've seen them play since that Padres game.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:10 PM
Worst game I've seen them play since that Padres game.

Like they stayed up too late partying last night? Bags already packed and ready to fly home?

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:11 PM
Seriously, go back and watch Cabrera's reaction after he hit the ball. You shouldn't be surprised you hit the ball when you're the one that swung. WTH?

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:11 PM
I really think it's just an attitude thing on Sunday's. Dusty gives multiple guys off, at the plate nobody goes deeper than three pitches, and it's pretty ho hum.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:12 PM
Like we can afford to be putting out a "B List" lineup.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:13 PM
This game is not worse than the Padres game. No errors, no one has forgotten how many outs there are, and we're only down by one run. That Padres game was pure crap and even though the hitting approach has sucked today, the rest of their play hasn't been that bad.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:14 PM
This is one of those games where Brook Jacoby must want to hide in the clubhouse. Terrible approaches at the plate, terrible at-bats ... but the Reds have the Nats right where they want 'em. Reds are going to win this one.

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:14 PM
This game is not worse than the Padres game. No errors, no one has forgotten how many outs there are, and we're only down by one run. That Padres game was pure crap and even though the hitting approach has sucked today, the rest of their play hasn't been that bad.

Agreed.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:14 PM
I really think it's just an attitude thing on Sunday's. Dusty gives multiple guys off, at the plate nobody goes deeper than three pitches, and it's pretty ho hum.

Reds are 4 wins, 4 losses on previous Sunday games.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:15 PM
How does someone like Wil Nieves even make it to the Big Leagues? Bad offensively and defensively.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 04:15 PM
Both managers love the bunt. Yuck.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:16 PM
Great baserunning from Bernadino. More players should do that. (You hear me talkin' Laynce Nix?)

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:17 PM
I didn't say it's as bad as the Padres game, I said it's the worst I've seen them play since the Padres game.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:17 PM
Stubbs didn't throw the ball in quickly yet again. I would bench him for a day...2 out of the last 3 days he's been blase with throwing the ball in and the Nats have made him/The Reds pay.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:19 PM
I love how Stubbs all of a sudden thinks he's Brandon Phillips or something and he's allowed to hot dog. (Kind of a joke there. But at least BP has a 30/30 year on his resume. Stubbs has nothing.)

Hey Drew, play hard, don't loaf. You don't hit nearly well enough for you to ever loaf defensively.

Tony Cloninger
06-06-2010, 04:19 PM
It is games liek these the last 3 days and the one against HOU..... that makes me realize why FCB....is the way he is.

CTA513
06-06-2010, 04:19 PM
How does someone like Wil Nieves even make it to the Big Leagues? Bad offensively and defensively.

They have like 2 or 3 catchers out with injuries.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:20 PM
Nice. Come on now!

oneupper
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
Arroyo pitched well enough to win. Now HIT (or walk or something that's not an out).

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
2-3-4, Reds have to score here.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:21 PM
They have like 2 or 3 catchers out with injuries.

I knew Pudge was down, didn't realize they had 1-2 others on the shelf. Nieves is garbage. (So, we have a pair of AAA catchers starting today.)

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:22 PM
I'm glad Arroyo got out of the jam...but here's the question...does Stubbs learn his lesson? Does Dusty talk to him about it? Or does it become irrelevant since Arroyo got out of the jam? Would a dogging it play only become an issue if it costs the Reds a game or causes a run to score?

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:22 PM
Get some runners on base and score some runs, it's gettin' late.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:22 PM
We HAVE to get to Clippard here.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:23 PM
Cairo has not looked good since Joey came back....

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Bad idea to give Rolen the day off. He's hot, Cairo hasn't played in a week.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Cairo has not looked good since Joey came back....

He's not very good

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:24 PM
Awful. This is just one of those games I guess. Even Votto is having poor ABs.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Votto hasn't looked good except for the first at-bat

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:25 PM
Angel Hernandez sucks.

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 04:25 PM
hang it up friends. This one is over. When Joey Votto has an at-bat like that, it's time to pack for home.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:25 PM
That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:26 PM
If you are a man and your name is Angel, there could be issues.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:26 PM
That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

But Arroyo benefited too. Gotta score more than one run.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:26 PM
That pitch was high to BP. This home plate ump is having a rough day.

Never trust someone named Angel

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:27 PM
But Arroyo benefited too. Gotta score more than one run.

He did? There should have been a K on a 3-2 count right before Desmond's "double" (that should have been caught by Nix).

toledodan
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Bad idea to give Rolen the day off. He's hot, Cairo hasn't played in a week.

yep, lets sit down rolen, gomes and hernandez in the same game.:thumbdown

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Atta boy BP.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
This pitcher has one of the weirdest pitching motions I've ever seen. :eek:

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Here we go!

GoReds
06-06-2010, 04:28 PM
Hope Guzman is ready...

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:29 PM
He did? There should have been a K on a 3-2 count right before Desmond's "double" (that should have been caught by Nix).

Agreed that he has missed some. Still, 1 run off Stammen? That is just bad. Stammen had 1 K. The Reds got themselves out all the other times.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:30 PM
Agreed that he has missed some. Still, 1 run off Stammen? That is just bad. Stammen had 1 K. The Reds got themselves out all the other times.

You're right about that.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:32 PM
Good AB by Jay here....

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:33 PM
It didn't end well. *sigh* :(

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:33 PM
YUCK

WVRedsFan
06-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:33 PM
Kinda surprised bp wasn't given the steal sign in that atbat

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:34 PM
It didn't end well. *sigh* :(

It was still a good AB.

Tony Cloninger
06-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Hernandez or whoever is the Catcher ...always gets the day game after a night game off....almost all the time...60% of the time.

Hernandez is a bad umpire and has been for a while. Like Charlie Williams bad.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

Like I said, he's got busy hands. He doesn't look comfortable at all.

Homer Bailey
06-06-2010, 04:35 PM
Good AB, but same result. Like I said, he really confuses me when he goes through long periods like this.

Every single major league hitter goes through stretches like this.

He's hitting a mere .293 over the last month and OPS'ing .851.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:36 PM
That was pitch 100. Bronson's effectiveness drops after 100.

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:36 PM
I have no problem with Dusty resting Ramon and even one of Rolen/Gomes. You can not rest all 3 on the same day.

HeatherC1212
06-06-2010, 04:37 PM
If I know an umpire's name in this league, it means I know it for a reason and more than likely the reason is that he isn't good. Angel Hernandez is one of those umpires along with CB Bucknor that I hate seeing behind home plate. :(

I understand Rolen and Hernandez being off more because they're a little older but I really hope one or both of them pinch hit in the next inning.

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:38 PM
If I know an umpire's name in this league, it means I know it for a reason and more than likely the reason is that he isn't good. Angel Hernandez is one of those umpires along with CB Bucknor that I hate seeing behind home plate. :(

I understand Rolen and Hernandez being off more because they're a little older but I really hope one or both of them pinch hit in the next inning.

Hernandez will pinch hit for Miller and Rolen for the pitcher spot.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:38 PM
This Cairo start just keeps looking worse and worse.

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:38 PM
Every single major league hitter goes through stretches like this.

He's hitting a mere .293 over the last month and OPS'ing .851.


Stop using facts in this discussion, Marty and Jeff say Bruce sucks they must be right.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Stop using facts in this discussion, Marty and Jeff say Bruce sucks they must be right.

Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Our bullpen is so bad that Dusty has elected to leave Arroyo in there even though he going off of fumes right now.

nate
06-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

14 ABs?

Really?

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:40 PM
Nobodys disputing may their disputing June.

Today is June 6th.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:41 PM
Cairo again making his precense known again

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:41 PM
This Cairo start just keeps looking worse and worse.

The honeymoon is over.

HokieRed
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Starting Cairo and Miller on the same day is like not showing up.

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Today is June 6th.

So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

Degenerate39
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
I bet Dunn goes deep here

TheNext44
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
I'm not liking his matchup. Arroyo v Dunn

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Dusty will soon learn there will be plenty of opportunities to rest Rolen when he gets hurt. ;-)

Seriously, enough of worrying about "saving guys" and "giving them rest." Winning games should be at the forefront.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Dunn has struck out 3 times today so far. Going for the golden sombrero....

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Good job Bronson

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Complete game loss for Bronson?

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Saved the bullpen for SF at least.

Ron Madden
06-06-2010, 04:43 PM
So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

never mind.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:43 PM
Arroyo pitched an excellent game today. Too bad the offense has gotten him 1 run. Here's to hoping we can tie it up or take the lead.

nate
06-06-2010, 04:44 PM
So? A week of baseball is irrelevant?

It's not a "long stretch" nor is it indicative of anything other than the natural ebb and flow of hits find seats, ground or gloves. It happens to Albert Pujols and it happens to Willy Taveras.

To portray Bruce as being in the unique situation of having a poor 14 ABs is ignoring that this happens to every player.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

toledodan
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Seriously, enough of worrying about "saving guys" and "giving them rest." Winning games should be at the forefront.



ding ding ding we have a winner. rolen gets more days off a week than i do.:thumbup:

forfreelin04
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
never mind.

There's a fundamental flaw in his approach. Just the mark of a young player. They might go through every bad habit before they find true consistency.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

Clippard is still pitching

BCubb2003
06-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:46 PM
That was pathetic, Laynce.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:46 PM
Nix Ks swinging, now Capps being brought in.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

I just wish they had started Heisey over Nix. No real problem with Rolen and Hernandez sitting.

RedsMan3203
06-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

Last week vs Houston... Yes - This week against the Nats? No.. Rolen should of been playing

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:47 PM
Would you rather start a weak lineup all in one game or weaken your lineup for several games?

You can overcome one weak link, you can't overcome 3/8ths of your lineup being weak links.

Blitz Dorsey
06-06-2010, 04:49 PM
Dusty should know this playoff race will come down to a game or two and we can't afford to put scrub lineups out there.

fearofpopvol1
06-06-2010, 04:49 PM
Stubbs with a double!! Nice. C'mon now Gomes!

redsfaninbsg
06-06-2010, 04:50 PM
At least Gomes/Rolen will get a shot to tie the game.

mbgrayson
06-06-2010, 04:50 PM
Lifetime vs. Matt Capps:

Nix is 2 for 2 (both singles)
Stubbs 0 for 1.
Rolen is 3 for 8 with a HR.
Hernandez is 1 for 3.

Gomes is 0 for 1 lifetime vs. Capps.