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Benihana
06-08-2010, 11:29 AM
A few BPA lists heading into Day 2:


Baseball America/Jim Callis http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2405
15. Stetson Allie, rhp, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio
20. Brandon Workman, rhp, Texas
23. Brett Eibner, rhp/of, Arkansas
25. A.J. Cole, rhp, Oviedo (Fla.) HS
28. Austin Wilson, of, Harvard-Westlake School, Studio City, Calif.
31. Ryan LaMarre, of, Michigan
33. Chad Bettis, rhp, Texas Tech
35. Yordy Cabrera, ss/rhp, Lakeland (Fla.) HS
37. Jedd Gyorko, ss, West Virginia
38. Ryne Stanek, rhp, Blue Valley HS, Stilwell, Kan.
45. A.J. Vanegas, rhp, Redwood Christian HS, San Lorenzo, Calif.
46. Garin Cecchini, 3b, Barbe HS, Lake Charles, La.
47. James Paxton, lhp, Grand Prairie (American Assoc.)
48. Sammy Solis, lhp, San Diego
50. Jesse Hahn, rhp, Virginia Tech


MLB.com/Jonathan Mayo http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100608&content_id=10934820
Robbie Aviles RHP Suffern HS
Chad Bettis RHP Texas Tech
Kris Bryant 3B Bonanza HS
Yordy Cabrera SS Lakeland HS
Drew Cisco RHP Wando HS
A.J. Cole RHP Oviedo HS
Todd Cunningham OF Jacksonville St.
Derek Dietrich 3B Georgia Tech
Brett Eibner RHP Arkansas
Gabriel Encinas RHP St. Paul HS
Scott Frazier RHP Upland HS
Kevin Gausman RHP Grandview HS
Reggies Golden OF Wetumpk HS
Jedd Gyorko SS West Virginia
Jesse Hahn RHP Virginia Tech
Jacoby Jones SS Richton HS
Dan Klein RHP UCLA
Ryan LaMarre OF Michigan
Griffin Murphy LHP Redlands
James Paxton LHP None
Adam Plutko RHP Glendora
Sammy Solis LHP San Diego
Austin Wates OF Virginia Tech
LeVon Washington OF Chipola JC
Brandon Workman RHP Texas


Baseball Prospectus/Kevin Goldstein http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11114
1. Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS (OH)

Just priced himself out of the market. If he's throwing bullets like he was the last six weeks of the high school season, he's a top three pick in 2013.

2. Brett Eibner, OF/RHP, Arkansas

Despite huge offensive numbers, including more than twice as many home runs as teammate Zach Cox, teams like him better as a pitcher, and he wants to keep hitting.

3. Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard Westlake HS (CA)

Too raw to spend huge money on him, another possible big name in three years in the tools blossom at Stanford.

4. Brandon Workman, RHP, Texas

In the end, too many teams saw him as a future reliever, as he's primarily as fastball/curve pitcher, and it's not the prettiest delivery in the world.

5. Yordy Cabrera, SS, Lakeland HS (FL)

The concept of paying seven figures to a high school player who turns 20 in October proved too much. He should be an early name tomorrow.

6. A.J. Cole, RHP, Oviedo HS (FL)

Once he slid past the 20s, signability became a big issue, as he's going to want first-round money no matter where he's drafted. Miami could benefit from this drop.

7. Sammy Solis, LHP, San Diego

When the trend went to high-ceiling high school arms, the low-upside, polished college type got pushed to the side. Like Cabrera, he won't be waiting long tomorrow.

8. Jedd Gyorko, INF, West Virginia

Another easy second-round projection, scouts being unable to confidently project a good defensive home hurt him on day one.

9. Ryne Stanek, RHP, Blue Valley HS (KS)

Too much, too soon. Scouts didn't trust it in the end, and his secondary pitches failed to impress late. Could end up going to Arkansas.

10. Jesse Hahn, RHP, Virginia Tech

Just the worst timing of any player in the draft, as he left his post-season start on Sunday after three innings with forearm tightness, and final evaluation of the injury is still up in the air.


MLBBonusBaby/Andy Seiler http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/

14. Stetson Allie, RHP, St. Edward HS (OH)
19. Brandon Workman, RHP, Texas
21. Brett Eibner, RHP/OF, Arkansas
23. A.J. Cole, RHP, Oviedo HS (FL)
25. Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard-Westlake HS (CA)
27. Jesse Hahn, RHP, Virginia Tech
30. Chad Bettis, RHP, Texas Tech
31. Yordy Cabrera, SS, Lakeland HS (FL)
38. James Paxton, LHP, Grand Prairie AirHogs (TX)
40. Jedd Gyorko, SS, West Virginia
41. Ryan LaMarre, OF, Michigan
43. Austin Wates, OF, Virginia Tech
44. Dan Klein, RHP, UCLA
45. Reggie Golden, OF, Wetumpka HS (AL)
46. Jarrett Parker, OF, Virginia
47. Sammy Solis, LHP, San Diego
49. Ryne Stanek, RHP, Blue Valley HS (KS)
51. Kevin Gausman, RHP, Grandview HS (CO)
53. Jacob Petricka, RHP, Indiana State
54. Hunter Morris, 1B, Auburn
55. Micah Gibbs, C, LSU
57. Robbie Aviles, RHP, Suffern HS (NY) - *Before Injury
59. A.J. Vanegas, RHP, Redwood Christian HS (CA)
61. Derek Dietrich, SS, Georgia Tech
62. Joe Leonard, 3B, Pittsburgh
63. Griffin Murphy, LHP, Redlands East Valley HS (CA)
65. Garin Cecchini, SS, Barbe HS (LA)
66. Kris Bryant, 3B, Bonanza HS (NV)
67. Jordan Swagerty, RHP, Arizona State
68. Todd Cunningham, OF, Jacksonville State
70. Burch Smith, RHP, Howard JC (TX)
71. Kyle Blair, RHP, San Diego
72. Dave Filak, RHP SUNY Oneonta
73. Tony Wolters, SS, Rancho Buena Vista HS (CA)
74. DeAndre Smelter, RHP, Tattnall Square Academy (GA)
75. Addison Reed, RHP, San Diego State
76. LeVon Washington, OF, Chipola JC (FL)
77. Justin Grimm, RHP, Georgia
78. Aaron Shipman, OF, Brooks County HS (GA)
79. Marcus Knecht, OF, Connors State JC (OK)
81. Scott Frazier, RHP, Upland HS (CA)
82. Leon Landry, OF, LSU
84. Sam Dyson, RHP, South Carolina
85. Mel Rojas Jr., OF, Wabash Valley JC (IL)
86. Rob Rasmussen, LHP, UCLA
88. Robby Rowland, RHP, Cloverdale HS (CA)
89. Rob Segedin, 3B, Tulane
90. Jason Adam, RHP, Blue Valley Northwest HS (KS)
91. Drew Cisco, RHP, Wando HS (SC)
92. Gauntlett Eldemire, OF, Ohio
93. Austin Wood, RHP, St. Petersburg JC (FL)
94. Drew Smyly, LHP, Arkansas
95. Perci Garner, RHP, Ball State
96. Marcus Littlewood, SS, Pineview HS (UT)
97. Kevin Munson, RHP, James Madison
98. Kevin Chapman, LHP, Florida
99. Stefan Sabol, C, Aliso Niguel HS (CA)
100. Zach Cates, RHP, Northeast Texas JC


Benihana (for the Reds)
1. Austin Wilson OF
2. AJ Cole RHP
3. Brandon Workman RHP
4. James Paxton LHP
5. Brett Eibner RHP
6. Stetson Allie RHP
7. Yordy Cabrera 3B
8. LeVon Washington OF
9. Jarret Parker OF
10. Derek Dietrich SS
11. Tony Wolters SS
12. Reggie Golden OF
13. JaCoby Jones SS
14. Jedd Gyorko 2B
15. Sammy Solis LHP

mound_patrol
06-08-2010, 11:32 AM
I'd love to see the Reds draft one of Allie or Cole and get them signed to a deal.

lollipopcurve
06-08-2010, 11:32 AM
Kinda partial to Wolters, Lamarre, Mike Olt, Eibner and Drew Cisco. Just because.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 11:46 AM
I expect a college pitcher.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 11:47 AM
I expect a college pitcher.

Me too. Let's hope for Workman, Eibner or Paxton.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 11:48 AM
I expect a college pitcher.

Me too, thinking Workman or Eibner.

Joseph
06-08-2010, 11:53 AM
Its obvious it has to be one player and one player alone:

Yordy Cabrera

Yonder
Yorman
Yasmani

It's the perfect plan to dominate the second to last letter in the alphabet.

World Series here we come.

Az. Reds Fan
06-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Kinda partial to Wolters, Lamarre, Mike Olt, Eibner and Drew Cisco. Just because.

Mike Olt was drafted by the Rangers at #49

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 12:01 PM
Its obvious it has to be one player and one player alone:

Yordy Cabrera

Yonder
Yorman
Yasmani

It's the perfect plan to dominate the second to last letter in the alphabet.

World Series here we come.

Need to book this guy for the 2015 World Series national anthem.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JQr-tmEuDso/Srb_N_Pb3UI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/Abuh8vxIAxQ/s320/yanni.jpg

Benihana
06-08-2010, 12:05 PM
Need to book this guy for the 2015 World Series national anthem.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JQr-tmEuDso/Srb_N_Pb3UI/AAAAAAAAA3Y/Abuh8vxIAxQ/s320/yanni.jpg

Of course that means we'll be playing the Yankees. Maybe we can bring Yimmy Lopez up to be the DH? Imagine that 2-6:

3B Yordy
LF Yonder
CF Yorman
C Yasmani
DH Yimmy

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 12:07 PM
I posted this in the other thread last night:

I would be happy with any of these guys with the 62nd overall pick:

RHP Stetson Allie, OF Austin Wilson, SS Yordy Cabrera, RHP Brett Eibner, OF Jarrett Parker, RHP A.J. Cole, and RHP Brandon Workman. One of them should be available when the Reds pick. I have a feeling the Reds will pick Workman if he's still there.

I would LOVE to add another high upside bat like Yordy Cabrera but I have a feeling he'll get drafted before the Reds pick.

Scrap Irony
06-08-2010, 12:15 PM
Paxton would be a fine addition, IMO. LH that can throw mid 90's with control are great to have. He'd be a fairly fast riser, too, as he's in independent ball right now. Because he didn't sign last season and had to go to the independent league, common sense says he shoul sign at slot money.

Not only that, he has a really, really high ceiling.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 12:26 PM
Paxton would be a fine addition, IMO. LH that can throw mid 90's with control are great to have. He'd be a fairly fast riser, too, as he's in independent ball right now. Because he didn't sign last season and had to go to the independent league, common sense says he shoul sign at slot money.

Not only that, he has a really, really high ceiling.

How do you think he compares to a present day Travis Wood?

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 12:55 PM
How do you think he compares to a present day Travis Wood?

Better velocity, better size, better injury history. Doesn't have the plus offspeed pitch that Wood brings though.

Sea Ray
06-08-2010, 12:57 PM
When does day 2 start?

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 12:57 PM
When does day 2 start?

In less than 5 minutes.

medford
06-08-2010, 12:58 PM
Of course that means we'll be playing the Yankees. Maybe we can bring Yimmy Lopez up to be the DH? Imagine that 2-6:

3B Yordy
LF Yonder
CF Yorman
C Yasmani
DH Yimmy

Better hope the opposing rotatin isn't headlined by Zack Grienke, Zach Duke and perhaps Carlos Zambrano and Barry Zito.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:02 PM
Jonathan Mayo says the Nats will take San Diego LHP Sammy Solis to begin the second round.

k9red
06-08-2010, 01:05 PM
Today on TV/On line anywhere.

Az. Reds Fan
06-08-2010, 01:06 PM
mlb.com....draft tracker

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:08 PM
I want Yordy Cabrera. If not him, A.J. Cole or Brandon Workman, or even Brett Eibner. It's doubtful Austin Wilson or Stetson Allie will sign now.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:10 PM
What's the delay?

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 01:12 PM
What's the delay?

Someone is having connection problems on the conference call. Sounds good to go now.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:13 PM
The Nationals are on the clock ... LHP, Sammy Solis, San Diego

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:14 PM
Pirates take Stetson Allie.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Pirates take Stetson Allie.

I'd be very surprised if they sign him.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:15 PM
The Braves take Todd Cunningham, CF, Jacksonville State.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 01:15 PM
I know I'm old. Stetson Allie born in 1991.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:16 PM
Eibner to the Royals

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:16 PM
There goes Brett Eibner to the Royals.

Give me Cabrera or Cole or Workman.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:16 PM
Wilson, Cabrera, Cole, Workman or Paxton. Let's go!

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Id take Cole or Paxton

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:17 PM
Indians select LeVon Washington. Reds are 7 picks away.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:17 PM
levon washington to indians

Edd Roush
06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
Thanks for the updates, guys. Keep them coming. Making being at work much better...

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
wow what a batting stance washington has

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
My guess is the Reds take someone off the radar (not on my Top 15 at the beginning of this thread) a la Boxberger from last year.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
bradley james to dbacks

OesterPoster
06-08-2010, 01:18 PM
Man, they're moving fast now. Two of my mock picks with Cunningham and Washington gone.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Wow, J.R. Bradley to the D-Backs at 56. He lives about 20 miles from me. I didn't know he was going that high.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:19 PM
Red Sox take Brandon Workman. Crap.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Workman to Bosox.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:20 PM
there goes workman to bo sox

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Damn there goes Workman. Red Sox having an amazing draft

HokieRed
06-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Not surprised Workman didn't last to us.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:21 PM
Vincent Velasquez to the Astros.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Padres take West Virginian Jedd Gyorko.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:22 PM
Come on Reds, A.J. Cole or Yordy Cabrera...

Kc61
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Padres take West Virginian Jedd Gyorko.

Cabrera gone.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
damn there goes yordy

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Yorky to Oaktown

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Dangit! There goes Yordy Cabrera to the A's. Crap.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:23 PM
Come on Reds, A.J. Cole or Yordy Cabrera...

there he goes, damn.

Paxton, Cole, or Austin Wilson

nemesis
06-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Wilson is going to be expensive. Cant see them going that route with Grandal being over slot in the first...

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Lots of guys here that I would still love to grab. Make it happen Buckley, make it happen.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 01:24 PM
How about Perci Garner Ball St. RHP? Anyone know about him? BA rated him pretty high.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Man, I really wanted Yordy Cabrera.

Blue Jays takes Griffin Murphy. Reds are on the clock...

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:25 PM
At #62, The Reds select...

OF Ryan Lamarre from Michigan.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 01:25 PM
Ryan LaMarre MICHIGAN


I'll take it. Speedster in the Drew Stubbs mold.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 01:25 PM
LeMarre

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:25 PM
Not bad. Wasn't he considered a first round talent?

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
not a huge fan of the pick but thats only cuz of some other players available

Scrap Irony
06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Looks like the Reds are focusing early on offense.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
Ryan LaMarre MICHIGAN


I'll take it.

I'm sure you will. :)

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:26 PM
http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-outfielder-ryan-lamarre-could-go-in-first-round-of-mlb-draft/


After leading the Michigan baseball team with a .419 average this past season, junior center fielder Ryan LaMarre has an outside chance of becoming the Wolverines' first first-round draft pick in 10 years when the Major League Baseball amateur draft begins Monday night.

Baseball America ranks LaMarre as the nation's 32nd overall prospect after a season in which he had to recover from breaking his thumb in the third game of the year. In 36 games, LaMarre hit five home runs and drove in 40 runs, leading the Wolverines in batting average, slugging percentage (.649) and on base percentage (.453).



Sounds like a good pick.

lollipopcurve
06-08-2010, 01:27 PM
Nice. Really like LaMarre.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:27 PM
Looks like the Reds are focusing early on offense.

And college guys.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 01:28 PM
What's the Reds selection numbers today.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 01:28 PM
College guys seems to be Buckley's status quo...

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:30 PM
Lemarre in 148 ab's . 20 k's and only 5 walks

nemesis
06-08-2010, 01:30 PM
Bio and Career stats...

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/lamarre_ryan00.html

JKam
06-08-2010, 01:31 PM
Sounds good offensively, but how is his defense in CF?

Scrap Irony
06-08-2010, 01:32 PM
Honestly, having never seen him play, LaMarre sounds like a tweener/ fourth OF to me.

I would have preferred Paxton. (Though, to be fair, I'm a bit biased, as I've seen the kid dominate very good SEC teams.)

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:34 PM
The Reds next pick is #94.

I have a feeling the Reds next pick will be RHP Perci Garner from Ball State. I'd rather wait and see if he'll fall to them in the 4th or 5th round.

A.J. Cole in the third round would be incredible.

Gauntlett Eldemire would be a nice pick too.

jmcclain19
06-08-2010, 01:34 PM
Plus Plus athlete with Plus Plus speed. Supposedly has some pop in his bat, a baseball rat with a decent arm and a legit CF.

Baseball America has him at #32 overall

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Yeah, after seeing LaMarre's K/BB ratio I'm not as thrilled with the pick. I'm still ticked the A's drafted Cabrera two picks ahead of the Reds.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Bio and Career stats...

http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-basebl/mtt/lamarre_ryan00.html


good luck superstition includes "spitting on batting gloves between every pitch."


Sweet.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:36 PM
Yeah, after seeing LaMarre's K/BB ratio I'm not as thrilled with the pick. I'm still ticked the A's drafted Cabrera two picks ahead of the Reds.

It looks like he had an injury this season. 26/33 K/BB ratio last year is a bit better.

HokieRed
06-08-2010, 01:37 PM
K/BB ratio is more encouraging for his three years at M. 81/49

Grande Donkey
06-08-2010, 01:37 PM
Yeah, after seeing LaMarre's K/BB ratio I'm not as thrilled with the pick. I'm still ticked the A's drafted Cabrera two picks ahead of the Reds.

Last year his K/BB ratio was much better. You fix the K/BB problem and you probably have a top 15 talent for the price of a second rounder.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:39 PM
Phillies take Perci Garner.

powersackers
06-08-2010, 01:39 PM
Sounds good offensively, but how is his defense in CF?

He started mostly in LF, only 6 games in CF. I don't know about the glove, but the RH bat with power bat looks good. Our low minor leagues can use the bat.

His Jr. year and prep numbers show lots of power. His thumb injury set him back a bit this season (18 games). He has base stealing speed, as he pinch ran some during the injury and stole bases.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:40 PM
A.J. Cole and Austin Wilson are still available, as are Garin Cecchini and James Paxton.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 01:42 PM
Not seeing the plus speed in LaMarre anywhere. See that he has solid speed all over the place.

Blitz Dorsey
06-08-2010, 01:42 PM
OMG, did we pop our shoulders out of socket with that reach? Yuck. Really wanted the kid that went two spots before us. I bet the Reds did too and panicked. No one had this kid projected as a second-round pick. Total reach IMO.

Edd Roush
06-08-2010, 01:43 PM
He started mostly in LF, only 6 games in CF. I don't know about the glove, but the RH bat with power bat looks good. Our low minor leagues can use the bat.

His Jr. year and prep numbers show lots of power. His thumb injury set him back a bit this season (18 games). He has base stealing speed, as he pinch ran some during the injury and stole bases.

Is it time for Mesoraco to hand over the title of Thumbs?

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 01:44 PM
OMG, did we pop our shoulders out of socket with that reach? Yuck. Really wanted the kid that went two spots before us. I bet the Reds did too and panicked. No one had this kid projected as a second-round pick. Total reach IMO.

Really? I'm seeing him projected around the mid to late 30's.

Just checked...BA had him 31.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:44 PM
OMG, did we pop our shoulders out of socket with that reach? Yuck. Really wanted the kid that went two spots before us. I bet the Reds did too and panicked. No one had this kid projected as a second-round pick. Total reach IMO.

You are correct, BA projected him in the 1st. ;)

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:45 PM
Start of 3rd round. Nats take Rick Hague, SS, Rice.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Pirates take Mel Rojas Jr.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:46 PM
Not seeing the plus speed in LaMarre anywhere. See that he has solid speed all over the place.


SPEED - LaMarre has some of the best speed in this draft class and it should be playable at any defensive position. On the basepaths however, he's been caught stealing 15 times in 43 attempts in his college career including being caught 5 times in 12 attempts this season.

http://www.prospectjunkies.com/2010/05/mlb-draft-prospect-ryan-lamarre-of.html

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 01:47 PM
SPEED - LaMarre has some of the best speed in this draft class and it should be playable at any defensive position. On the basepaths however, he's been caught stealing 15 times in 43 attempts in his college career including being caught 5 times in 12 attempts this season.

Bah. You can train that. Witness Stubbs' terrible baserunning year in Dayton, then his vast improvement at higher levels.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:47 PM
James Paxton would be a great pick at #94.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 01:48 PM
Aren't AJ Cole & Austin Wilson still available?

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Tony Wolters goes to the Indians.

REDSEER
06-08-2010, 01:49 PM
Pirates take Mel Rojas Jr.

He played against my team's JV team a few times this year so I got to see him play. He hit some of the hardest balls that I have ever seen. Little did I know he was a top-5 round prospect. Imagine my surprise when I saw him pop up on the draft tracker.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:51 PM
Austin Wilson, A.J. Cole, James Paxton all available with the Reds four picks away.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:52 PM
:pray:
Austin Wilson, A.J. Cole, James Paxton all available with the Reds four picks away.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 01:53 PM
http://www.prospectjunkies.com/2010/05/mlb-draft-prospect-ryan-lamarre-of.html

That is the only place I have seen something suggesting he is better than a slightly above average runner.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:54 PM
That is the only place I have seen something suggesting he is better than a slightly above average runner.


LaMarre, who still has a year of eligibility remaining at U-M, is known for his speed and outstanding bat, after hitting .419 this season at U-M, despite missing the first third of the seasons with a broken thumb.

http://www.freep.com/article/20100608/SPORTS06/100608032/Reds-select-U-M-s-Ryan-LaMarre

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:54 PM
Aaron Shipman to the A's at #92. Reds are two picks away. A.J. Cole or James Paxton please.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 01:56 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20100608/SPORTS06/100608032/Reds-select-U-M-s-Ryan-LaMarre
That doesn't tell me he has plus speed, just that he is fast. Jay Bruce is fast. But he isn't a plus plus or even a plus runner.

medford
06-08-2010, 01:56 PM
Devon Lohman, SS

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:56 PM
#94, the Reds select...

Devin Lohman, SS, Long Beach State

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 01:57 PM
If he played SS at Long Beach State then he must be good.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:57 PM
That doesn't tell me he has plus speed, just that he is fast. Jay Bruce is fast. But he isn't a plus plus or even a plus runner.


26. Ryan LaMarre OF Michigan - A real gamer, 6′2 and 200 lbs with plus plus speed, LaMarre might be the most exciting player taken in the first round. He combines solid hit skills with above average power and all out play. He should stick as a CF which will only add to his value.

http://baseballinstinct.com/2010/06/04/prospect-instinct-2010-mlb-amateur-draft-part-2/

nemesis
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%

.404 40-39 151 31 61 17 1 1 24 83 .550 18 3 26 2 .471 2 2 7-15 51 86 14 .907


Don't quite get it...

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
That doesn't tell me he has plus speed, just that he is fast. Jay Bruce is fast. But he isn't a plus plus or even a plus runner.


Pat (Indiana): With regards to your recent mock draft, what have you been hearing about Ryan LaMarre that made him a potential first round candidate?

Jim Callis: Has a chance to be a CF with plus-plus speed, plus bat, slightly above-average power. Great makeup helps, too.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/chat/2010/2610020.html

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
http://www.longbeachstate.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2009-2010/teamcume.html

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Cole & Wilson falling so far makes me wonder if there's an injury hidden in there. I usually don't see projections fall that far for possible 1st round picks.

CarolinaRedleg
06-08-2010, 02:00 PM
Funniest line from the MLB.com chat:

"Wates to Houston: Crap, there goes his chance of being developed well."

powersackers
06-08-2010, 02:01 PM
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%

.404 40-39 151 31 61 17 1 1 24 83 .550 18 3 26 2 .471 2 2 7-15 51 86 14 .907


Don't quite get it...

14 errors, just slightly above .900 FP%. Yikes.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:01 PM
Give me Ohio U. OF Gauntlett Eldemire in the 4th round if he's available...

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:01 PM
not a huge fan of this pick. doesnt seem like alot of upside in lohmans bat

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:02 PM
14 errors, just slightly above .900 FP%. Yikes.

Don't pay attention to FP.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:02 PM
High ceiling players aren't the Buckley type. That's pretty apparent.

Plus Plus
06-08-2010, 02:02 PM
Cole & Wilson falling so far makes me wonder if there's an injury hidden in there. I usually don't see projections fall that far for possible 1st round picks.

IIRC Wilson was regarded as a near-impossible sign. Has a very very firm commitment to... Stanford I believe?

HokieRed
06-08-2010, 02:03 PM
A lot of improvement in Lohman's bat from 2nd to 3rd college year. Maybe they see large continuing upside.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:03 PM
IIRC Wilson was regarded as a near-impossible sign. Has a very very firm commitment to... Stanford I believe?

Didn't know that. Thanks.

IslandRed
06-08-2010, 02:04 PM
IIRC Wilson was regarded as a near-impossible sign. Has a very very firm commitment to... Stanford I believe?

Cole was in the same situation. Unless they were taken very early or paid as if they were, those two are headed to college.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 02:05 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/chat/2010/2610020.html

Well then, in my face. :thumbup:

Mario-Rijo
06-08-2010, 02:05 PM
http://baseballbeginnings.com/2010/03/05/devin-lohman-snapshot/


Lohman lacks the imposing physicality of some shortstops, but his body type will be suited to staying in the middle of the diamond. Lohman has a lot of other tools a lot of other players donít have. Heís a steady 60 runner from the right side, which gives him above-average pro speed. His other tool is his arm, which is easily one of the best at his position among college players nationally in the 2010 draft. Lohman is smooth and nimble defensively, and his range, while not exceptional, is adequate for the position.

The question heís going to have to answer as a pro is with the bat. Offensively, heís a max-effort type of swinger in BP. He will be best served if he keeps the ball on the ground and slaps line drives in the future. Lohman doesnít have much physical projection left, and though he has a big arm, he would lack the size to profile on the mound. If he can adapt his offensive style to the pro game and show that he can put the ball in play consistently with wood, Lohman will have a chance to find his way as a National League type of No. 2, No. 8 or very good bench player. His arm, glove, speed and aptitude should buy him some time to develop offensively at the pro levels.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:05 PM
I'm fine with safer college picks in the first round but I wish the Reds would take some risks in later rounds. Take some of those raw but very toolsy players with huge upside.

Gauntlett Eldemire is my No. 1 target in the 4th round.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:06 PM
Scouting report for LaMarre

http://www.prospectjunkies.com/2010/05/mlb-draft-prospect-ryan-lamarre-of.html

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 02:06 PM
Still holding out for James Paxton.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:06 PM
A lot of improvement in Lohman's bat from 2nd to 3rd college year. Maybe they see large continuing upside.

Absolutely no power in college with a Aluminum bat. Not a position of need in the system. Feels like they drafted Shane Carlson again. Just in the 3rd round this time. This defiantly means Hamilton will start in the AZL and Lohman will be in Billings. Maybe its a signablity pick to keep $ free for Grandal.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Still holding out for James Paxton.

That would be very nice.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Absolutely no power in college with a Aluminum bat. Not a position of need in the system. Feels like they drafted Shane Carlson again. Just in the 3rd round this time. This defiantly means Hamilton will start in the AZL and Lohman will be in Billings. Maybe its a signablity pick to keep $ free for Grandal.

Agree.

1 HR this past year and 5 HR total in 3 years of college with an aluminum bat. Wow.

Love the first two picks, but don't like this one.

Puffy
06-08-2010, 02:09 PM
From what I could gather I see Willy Lohman as a Paul Janish type - slightly better hitter, same strong arm, slightly worse fielder. All in all, a bench type player. Those types are fine, but I think third round is a bit high for him. Good guy to have though as he profiles as a baseball rat type.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 02:10 PM
Agree.

1 HR this past year and 5 HR total in 3 years of college with an aluminum bat. Wow.

Love the first two picks, but don't like this one.

Sounds like the reviews Zack Cozart got when drafted. The key is that it seems this guy can stay at SS. If so, Lohman can be a good pick.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I don't really understand the Lohman pick. Not this early.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:10 PM
The Reds next pick is #124 right? I'm hoping for Gauntlett Eldemire or James Paxton.

TRF
06-08-2010, 02:11 PM
From what I could gather I see Willy Lohman as a Paul Janish type - slightly better hitter, same strong arm, slightly worse fielder. All in all, a bench type player. Those types are fine, but I think third round is a bit high for him. Good guy to have though as he profiles as a baseball rat type.

Did you just call him Willy Lohman?

HokieRed
06-08-2010, 02:12 PM
Lohman's K/BB went from 75/33 in first two years to 26/18 this year. OBP .471.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:12 PM
Did you just call him Willy Lohman?

Death of a shortstop?

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:13 PM
If we could nab Paxton in the 4th id be VERY happy

Puffy
06-08-2010, 02:14 PM
Did you just call him Willy Lohman?

Of course. Next round we are drafting a Biff.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:17 PM
off topic but just checking out the latest all star ballots the reds have 2 in the top 5. phillips 5th and votto 4th

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:17 PM
there goes cole

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:17 PM
4th round. Nationals select A.J. Cole. Good pick.

medford
06-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Nats take AJ Cole

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:19 PM
For the 100th time, give me Gauntlett Eldemire or James Paxton in the 4th round. :)

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:19 PM
Trent Mummey to Baltimore. Scary pick.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:20 PM
Kevin Chapman to the Royals.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:21 PM
The Nats have had a rather solid 2 year draft run I'd say. Mercy!

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:21 PM
Kyle Blair to the Indians.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:22 PM
The Nats have had a rather solid 2 year draft run I'd say. Mercy!

True dat, though it remains to be seen in Cole gets signed. This may be a throw away pick. if Cole signs for x, we'll take him. If not, we've spent a load of cash on the other guys.

Grande Donkey
06-08-2010, 02:22 PM
I wouldn't mind taking a chance on a guy like Justin Grimm here in the 4th round.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:23 PM
Greg Vaughn's son just got drafted by the Mets.

medford
06-08-2010, 02:24 PM
Greg Vaughn's son just went. Isn't Tracy Jone's kid suppose to be drafted sometime around here?

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:25 PM
Four picks away and Gauntlett Eldemire and James Paxton are still available.

HokieRed
06-08-2010, 02:25 PM
The Nats have had a rather solid 2 year draft run I'd say. Mercy!


That org. is rapidly getting better at all levels.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:26 PM
From Jeff Fletcher of AOL FanHouse:

Some scouting director is gonna get fired pretty soon for passing over Gauntlett Eldemire

http://twitter.com/JeffFletcherAOL

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:28 PM
That org. is rapidly getting better at all levels.

Yep. I was shocked at first when I saw Bryce Harper listed as an OF'er, but the more I thought about it the more sense it made. It automatically puts him on the fast track to the bigs with as advanced as his bat is. This could become a VERY good team in a VERY short period of time IMO.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:28 PM
The Reds are on the clock with Gauntlett Eldemire and James Paxton both still available...

bucksfan2
06-08-2010, 02:28 PM
The Reds are on the clock with Gauntlett Eldemire and James Paxton both still available...

Odds that they take either of those two? 10%

medford
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
I'd take the under on those odds

SirFelixCat
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Brodie Greene, OF, Tx A&M

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
No dice

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
With pick #127, the Reds select...

Brodie Greene, SS, Texas A&M.

Imagine that, another safe pick. Jeez.

medford
06-08-2010, 02:29 PM
Brodie Green, CF aTm

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:30 PM
With pick #127, the Reds select...

Brodie Greene, SS, Texas A&M.

Imagine that, another safe pick. Jeez.

Get used to it. Jocketty and Buckley have a track record.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 02:30 PM
All college position players, up the middle, they've taken a C, a CF, two SSs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:30 PM
With pick #127, the Reds select...

Brodie Greene, SS, Texas A&M.

Imagine that, another safe pick. Jeez.

MLB's got him listed as a CF'er

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:31 PM
AVG GP-GS AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB SLG% BB HBP SO GDP OB% SF SH SB-ATT PO A E FLD%

.397 64-64 262 74 104 18 7 14 55 178 .679 24 12 29 1 .465 3 3 23-28 89 122 14 .938

Has pop. Third baseman?

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:31 PM
All college position players, up the middle, C, CF, two SSs.

Looks like he plays everywhere.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:32 PM
if he can stick at ss i like the pick his bat seems like it has more upside than the guy from long beach state

powersackers
06-08-2010, 02:33 PM
From Jeff Fletcher of AOL FanHouse:

Some scouting director is gonna get fired pretty soon for passing over Gauntlett Eldemire

http://twitter.com/JeffFletcherAOL

As an OU grad I certainly would love to see him in the Reds system. Maybe we are still having issues with the Marc Cornell miss.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:34 PM
there goes paxton

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:35 PM
There goes James Paxton to the Mariners. Great pick.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:36 PM
The Reds have yet to draft a pitcher through four rounds. Remember how icehole always says the Reds should draft a pitcher in the first five rounds every year? Dude has probably already pulled his hair out by now.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:36 PM
4 year player... Here is Greene's Pre Senior stats...

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/Brodie-Greene.shtml

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:37 PM
anyone got a report on Greens Defense at ss. I really like his bat

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:38 PM
John Stilson for Texas A&M is a Sophomore. Put up great numbers as a reliever. Looks like a late 1st round/sandwich pick talent for next year.

_Sir_Charles_
06-08-2010, 02:38 PM
Looks like he was a full time SS in high school but has only occasionally played at short in college. Mostly 2b it looks like.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:39 PM
The Reds have yet to draft a pitcher through four rounds. Remember how icehole always says the Reds should draft a pitcher in the first five rounds every year? Dude has probably already pulled his hair out by now.

Draft the arms.. Buy the bats

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:42 PM
Green = Frazier ?

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:43 PM
I would guess they are avoiding HS players in the first 5 or 6 rounds to make sure the guys they get sign for slot. I am sure when drafting Grandal that this was probably the discussion.

But on the other hand, Dayton is going to have alot of high round talent, big name Latin American players as well as holdovers next year...

Az. Reds Fan
06-08-2010, 02:43 PM
The Reds have yet to draft a pitcher through four rounds. Remember how icehole always says the Reds should draft a pitcher in the first five rounds every year? Dude has probably already pulled his hair out by now.

The D'backs, on the other hand, thru 4 rounds have drafted all pitchers

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:44 PM
The D'backs, on the other hand, thru 4 rounds have drafted all pitchers

They need arms...

Az. Reds Fan
06-08-2010, 02:45 PM
They need arms...

Amen, brother

Kc61
06-08-2010, 02:45 PM
I would guess they are avoiding HS players in the first 5 or 6 rounds to make sure they guys they get sign for slot. I am sure when drafting Grandal that this was probably the discussion.

But on the other hand, Dayton is going to have alot of high round talent, big name Latin American players as well as holdovers next year...

Or maybe it's a total focus on getting the current team over the top. Pick guys who can help in 2012-13.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:47 PM
Or maybe it's a total focus on getting the current team over the top. Pick guys who can help in 2012-13.

Yeah boy.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 02:47 PM
Or maybe it's a total focus on getting the current team over the top. Pick guys who can help in 2012-13.

Then they already failed. The odds that a single guy from this draft can do that is slim.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:48 PM
The Red Sox are having an amazing draft.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 02:48 PM
Or maybe it's a total focus on getting the current team over the top. Pick guys who can help in 2012-13.

Or at least make the 2012 Carolina Mudcats extra super scrappy.

13 in hall
06-08-2010, 02:49 PM
Might they be drafting to try to replace what will be traded? Walt is going to pull the trigger on some deals and no one knows what he will give up, but many will not like it.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:50 PM
Or maybe it's a total focus on getting the current team over the top. Pick guys who can help in 2012-13.

These guys aren't going to pass up guys like Francisco, Frazier, Heisey, Sapplett, Valakia, Dorn... Notta chance. Have you paid attention on the slowness they move most college players through the system?

It'll be 2013 2014 before one of the guys under Grandal makes it to the bigs.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:50 PM
Then they already failed. The odds that a single guy from this draft can do that is slim.

You don't think that anyone that has been drafted by the Reds will be able to help this team in 2013?

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:51 PM
You don't think that anyone that has been drafted by the Reds will be able to help this team in 2013?

Grandal is the only one. He could be here by 2012 though...

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 02:51 PM
You don't think that anyone that has been drafted by the Reds will be able to help this team in 2013?

Grandal, MAYBE. In the latter half of the season. Everyone else looks more like a back up player and are well down any and all depth charts at this point, even if we project forward.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:52 PM
These guys aren't going to pass up guys like Francisco, Frazier, Heisey, Sapplett, Valakia, Dorn... Notta chance. Have you paid attention on the slowness they move most college players through the system?

It'll be 2013 2014 before one of the guys under Grandal makes it to the bigs.

Dorn was just left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft and no one took him. Maybe it has more to do with the player than it does with their philosophy.

Heisey was in single A for most of 2008, now is with the big club.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 02:53 PM
Eldemire is still out there- but given who the Reds have taken so far, I don't see them taking yet another college OF, even a toolsy one.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 02:54 PM
Dorn was just left unprotected in the Rule 5 draft and no one took him. Maybe it has more to do with the player than it does with their philosophy.

Heisey was in single A for most of 2008, now is with the big club.

He was drafted in 2006 and that was 4 years ago. 2010 + 4 years = 2014 and he wouldn't be here now if Dickerson didn't have crystal for bones.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 02:54 PM
jerry narrons son was just draftd

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 02:55 PM
Jerry's son Connor, a NC SS out of high school- to Orioles.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 02:55 PM
Come on Reds, make me a happy man and draft Gauntlett Eldemire.

PuffyPig
06-08-2010, 02:56 PM
Might they be drafting to try to replace what will be traded? Walt is going to pull the trigger on some deals and no one knows what he will give up, but many will not like it.


The Reds have, like every other year, drafted who they thought was the best available player at the time of each pick.

You may not agree with the pick, but there is no conspiracy going on, no deep rooted secret.

Many players fall for multiple reasons.

Paxton has seemed to fall quite a bit. It's not like we are the only team to let him fall, everyone else passed too. I don't know the reason. I don't know if it is even valid. But every team passed on him a few times when many were wanting him picked.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:56 PM
This draft has me..... :confused:

Obviously this isn't a draft that is going to help soon. So why draft players with seemingly low ceilings?

RedsManRick
06-08-2010, 02:56 PM
Anybody have the odds handy of the chances a player drafted in round X will make the majors? stay in the majors?

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:57 PM
He was drafted in 2006 and that was 4 years ago. 2010 + 4 years = 2014 and he wouldn't be here now if Dickerson didn't have crystal for bones.

He didn't start producing until 2009. Look at the performance versus the draft year.

The fact that Dorn hasn't gotten the call probably has more to do with their projections than his draft year.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 02:57 PM
The Reds have, like every other year, drafted who they thought was the best available player at the time of each pick.

You may not agree with the pick, but there is no conspiracy going on, no deep rooted secret.

Many players fall for multiple reasons.

Paxton has seemed to fall quite a bit. It's not like we are the only team to let him fall, everyone else passed too. I don't know the reason. I don't know if it is even valid. But every team passed on him a few times when many were wanting him picked.

That said, it seems definitely true that the Reds went for college picks who would sign for slot or lower so they have a chance of affording Yasmani Grendal.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:57 PM
That said, it seems definitely true that the Reds went for college picks who would sign for slot or lower so they have a chance of affording Yasmani Grendal.

Maybe I shouldn't be confused.

This draft might be all about Yasmani and Chapman.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:58 PM
Anybody have the odds handy of the chances a player drafted in round X will make the majors? stay in the majors?

I think those numbers are almost useless from an odds perspective since so many highly rated guys drop for multiple reasons.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 02:58 PM
This draft has me..... :confused:

Obviously this isn't a draft that is going to help soon. So why draft players with seemingly low ceilings?

I think the opposite. Reds are drafting guys who could help relatively soon. But many might be in backup, injury replacement, or role playing positions.

Keep in mind the Reds are active in getting young, high ceiling prospects from international scouting. So using the draft for mature, solid guys who could help soon makes sense.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 02:59 PM
...although I'd still love to see the Reds draft some athletic HS kids with upside who hate doing homework and are prone to being lured away from college.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 02:59 PM
I think the opposite. Reds are drafting guys who could help relatively soon. But many might be in backup, injury replacement, or role playing positions.

Keep in mind the Reds are active in getting young, high ceiling prospects from international scouting. So using the draft for mature, solid guys who could help soon makes sense.

I'm really not seeing it. Who other than Grandal could honestly be on the roster by 2013?

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 02:59 PM
...although I'd still love to see the Reds draft some athletic HS kids with upside who hate doing homework and are prone to being lured away from college.

Sure, those are nice also. I wouldn't mind seeing some of those guys.

RedsManRick
06-08-2010, 03:00 PM
I think those numbers are almost useless from an odds perspective since so many highly rated guys drop for multiple reasons.

Point being that it's virtually impossible for us to say much of anything with any degree of confidence at this point. The most likely circumstance for anybody drafted at this point or later is that they aren't going to make it, let alone make an impact.

Unless we're talking specifically about passing up a guy who was unanimously a 1st round talent who slipped for financial reasons, it's more or less a crap-shoot.

Hard to complain about getting up the middle talent.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 03:00 PM
...although I'd still love to see the Reds draft some athletic HS kids with upside who hate doing homework and are prone to being lured away from college.

Agreed.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 03:01 PM
Point being that it's virtually impossible for us to say much of anything with any degree of confidence at this point. The most likely circumstance for anybody drafted at this point or later is that they aren't going to make it, let alone make an impact.

Unless we're talking specifically about passing up a guy who was unanimously a 1st round talent who slipped for financial reasons, it's more or less a crap-shoot.

Hard to complain about getting up the middle talent.

Yeah, while there are always exceptions you are really going to see the impact guys go early. Maybe that's the philosophy...take the "safer" guys in the high risk rounds. Maybe they don't hit the ceiling, but maybe they don't hit the floor either.

Kc61
06-08-2010, 03:01 PM
I'm really not seeing it. Who other than Grandal could honestly be on the roster by 2013?

I don't know these players well enough to comment. Just reading BA's reports, Green could be a utility player relatively soon. The outfielder from Michigan was rated 32 by BA and could do well in the minors, could play a fourth outfielder role relatively soon.

Reds don't want to spend high picks on guys who are six years away. They are focused on the relative near term IMO.

Homer Bailey
06-08-2010, 03:02 PM
Text I got from a friend who played with LaMarre at Michigan:

"Stud!

He's a good friend of mine, he'll work his (butt) off and be up there in a couple years I guarantee it."

Take that for whatever its worth.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Yeah, while there are always exceptions you are really going to see the impact guys go early. Maybe that's the philosophy...take the "safer" guys in the high risk rounds. Maybe they don't hit the ceiling, but maybe they don't hit the floor either.

That has also been Chris Buckley's MO throughout his career, including when he was with the Blue Jays. His other trademark is taking college relievers with starter-type pitch repertoires (and thus less arm strain) and attempting to convert them to starters.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Text I got from a friend who played with LaMarre at Michigan:

"Stud!

He's a good friend of mine, he'll work his (butt) off and be up there in a couple years I guarantee it."

Take that for whatever its worth.

There you have it...couple of year equals 2012.

Done deal.

:)

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Gauntlett Eldemire still available for the Reds here in the 5th round...

medford
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm really not seeing it. Who other than Grandal could honestly be on the roster by 2013?

I doubt anyone knows. I doubt many Card fans felt confident that Pujols would make the show when he was draft, nor Oswalt, Piazza, etc.... if its hard to judge the first couple of rounds of a draft until 3 years later, its impossible to stake a claim as to which mid to late round pick (or whatever you want to classify as rounds 3 and beyond) are going to be true diamonds in the rough.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 03:03 PM
Man, that kid with the first name Jablonski probably learned how to defend himself pretty well in the schoolyard.

Caveat Emperor
06-08-2010, 03:04 PM
Gauntlett Eldemire still available for the Reds here in the 5th round...

OBM needs food badly!

Puffy
06-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I doubt anyone knows. I doubt many Card fans felt confident that Pujols would make the show when he was draft, nor Oswalt, Piazza, etc.... if its hard to judge the first couple of rounds of a draft until 3 years later, its impossible to stake a claim as to which mid to late round pick (or whatever you want to classify as rounds 3 and beyond) are going to be true diamonds in the rough.

Amen.

If there is one thing I do know its that I trust Buckley.

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 03:04 PM
I doubt anyone knows. I doubt many Card fans felt confident that Pujols would make the show when he was draft, nor Oswalt, Piazza, etc.... if its hard to judge the first couple of rounds of a draft until 3 years later, its impossible to stake a claim as to which mid to late round pick (or whatever you want to classify as rounds 3 and beyond) are going to be true diamonds in the rough.

I'll never forget the DDN story about Michael Griffin when he was with the Dragons that posited that the guy could be the next Pujols because they were drafted in the same round (14th? 12th? somewhere around there). Nothing against Mr. Griffin or anything.

CarolinaRedleg
06-08-2010, 03:05 PM
John Mugarian, come on down.

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 03:05 PM
With the 157th pick, the Reds select...

John Mugarian, RHP, Pensacola Catholic HS, FL

medford
06-08-2010, 03:05 PM
Dickie Thon, now there is an unfortunate name.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 03:05 PM
The Mad Mugarian

Doc. Scott
06-08-2010, 03:06 PM
OBM needs food badly!

OH NO, RED BUCKLEY SHOT THE FOOD.

John Mugarian, RHP, FL HS. Only 6 feet tall. Hmm.

RichRed
06-08-2010, 03:06 PM
Dickie Thon, now there is an unfortunate name.

I was just thinking, Dickie Thon had a son and made him a Junior. That's just cruel.

aubashbrother
06-08-2010, 03:07 PM
neone got a report on this kid

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 03:07 PM
OBM needs food badly!

I don't get it. Please explain. :)

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 03:07 PM
Goes by Wes, not John.

Throws 90-92. Curveball, slider and change.

powersackers
06-08-2010, 03:08 PM
Matt den Dekker is a stud. Mets are having a good draft.

powersackers
06-08-2010, 03:11 PM
Goes by Wes, not John.

Throws 90-92. Curveball, slider and change.

Commit to Alabama.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/high-school/?p=60

Cedric
06-08-2010, 03:15 PM
I was just thinking, Dickie Thon had a son and made him a Junior. That's just cruel.

My older brother always claims Dickie Thon was a superstar in the making. I think he got hit in the head and it ruined his career though. Could be a nice story if the kid becomes a star.

Homer Bailey
06-08-2010, 03:16 PM
Additional text I got from LaMarre's former teammate:

"I'm so happy he's on the Reds. He thought he was gonna be a supplemental 1st round guy though so he's kinda pissed."

"He's a 6.8/60 guy so just barely in the 'plus speed' category."

westofyou
06-08-2010, 03:17 PM
My older brother always claims Dickie Thon was a superstar in the making. I think he got hit in the head and it ruined his career though. Could be a nice story if the kid becomes a star.

He was player, a real good player. Got hit in the eye, ruined his career


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1136985/index.htm

Redus
06-08-2010, 03:19 PM
OH NO, RED BUCKLEY SHOT THE FOOD.

John Mugarian, RHP, FL HS. Only 6 feet tall. Hmm.

Love "Gauntlet" references:thumbup:

BuckeyeRedleg
06-08-2010, 03:21 PM
LaMarre's game kind of remonds me of Heisey.

Nothing wrong with that.

redsmetz
06-08-2010, 03:21 PM
I was curious to see what comments were made when Joey Votto was picked in 2002. Here's the thread. If you go to it and search "Votto," you'll read some of the same comments that are being made: "Overreach" and "are they related to the Reds scouts" etc. There were some posts that mentioned previews of him that were pretty head on. Interesting stuff. The point is that there are diamonds in the rough and players take paths that are at times unexpected.

13 in hall
06-08-2010, 03:23 PM
Quick question off topic, for those in the know what happened to Milton Lou? Spelling may be wrong. Hearing about the kid drafted from Hawaii reminded me of him. How good was he?

nemesis
06-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Loo. He never made it past Rookie Ball. Scouts were high on him, Reds drafted him twice. Got homesick and quit baseball.

dougdirt
06-08-2010, 03:24 PM
Quick question off topic, for those in the know what happened to Milton Lou? Spelling may be wrong. Hearing about the kid drafted from Hawaii reminded me of him. How good was he?

Retired after half a season. Didn't want to be away from home. His hit tool was apparently very good.

Puffy
06-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Retired after half a season. Didn't want to be away from home. His hit tool was apparently very good.

Know who else had a good "hit tool" - - Milli Vanilli

13 in hall
06-08-2010, 03:27 PM
Thank You both for your quick responses.

westofyou
06-08-2010, 03:28 PM
Loo. He never made it past Rookie Ball. Scouts were high on him, Reds drafted him twice. Got homesick and quit baseball.

Islanders have a hard time sometiems on the mainland

Cedric
06-08-2010, 03:29 PM
Islanders have a hard time sometiems on the mainland

After going to Hawaii last year I can understand why.

nemesis
06-08-2010, 03:30 PM
Yep. Isolation on the Island to Mainland USA is overwhelming to some of them. Almost like a different country...

Loo's limited playing time stats...

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/L/milton-loo.shtml

icehole3
06-08-2010, 03:31 PM
With the 157th pick, the Reds select...

John Mugarian, RHP, Pensacola Catholic HS, FL

YAH!!! A pitcher...WOOHOO! :)

OnBaseMachine
06-08-2010, 03:41 PM
Reds 6th round pick:

RHP Drew Cisco!

Great pick!

medford
06-08-2010, 03:41 PM
well this will cause confusion in the minor league game threads.

Drew Cisco, P

JaxRed
06-08-2010, 03:41 PM
Reds 6th round pick:

RHP Drew Cisco!

Great pick!

For real?