6-8-10 Giants at Reds

[Redlegs_87]

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[Reds]

Tonight will be game 600 played at GABP. The Reds are 300-298-1 through 599.

San Francisco is 27-6 when scoring four or more runs in a game and 4-19 when scoring fewer than four runs. They've also posted a 22-5 record when scoring a game's first run.

[redsfan_12]

what was the tie for??

[Vottomatic]

what was the tie for??

I was wondering the same thing. :confused:

[arkimadee]

GDit.. Why are we giving Stubbs the night off when he is blazing at the plate??? I wanna see Heisey play but give Bruce or someone else the night off.. Not the hot hand.. IMO

[arkimadee]

I was wondering the same thing. :confused:
Donovan McNabb forgot the rules of the game.. Oh wait, that was the wrong sport :)

[Kingspoint]

...

[Vottomatic]

GDit.. Why are we giving Stubbs the night off when he is blazing at the plate??? I wanna see Heisey play but give Bruce or someone else the night off.. Not the hot hand.. IMO

Bruce WAS the hot hand last night.

And he cannot replace Gomes with Heisey because he's replacing him with Nix tonight.

So basically, the hot hand last night, Bruce, is back in the lineup with 2 guys coming off the bench.

[Vottomatic]

Well, Strasburg hasn't K'd anyone yet in the first inning. He's a bust. :D

[Reds]

The tie (I'm sure) was a result of a tied rain delayed game that was never made up due to irrelevancy. It likely came against the pirates.

I'm watching the NATS game to start the night, first time I haven't started with the Reds game this year.

is that Bob Costas on the mike!

[Kingspoint]

LeCure's Changeup isn't working, yet.

He throws an 89mph Fastball followed by an 87mph Changeup.

[Kingspoint]

Not quite the 1-2-3 that Strasburg had, but these aren't the Pirates, either.

[Kingspoint]

It's like a World Series, Game 1 in Washington.

Strasburg is really dealing.

[Kingspoint]

is that Bob Costas on the mike!

Yep.

Met the guy.

Can't stand the guy.

[Kingspoint]

What a nasty pitch Strasburg just threw.

[Kingspoint]

Nice job, Sam!

LeCure is the Cure.

[Kingspoint]

Strasburg won't throw a perfect game tonight as he gives up a single.

[Reds]

You can't stand Bob Costas? Why? Is he too arrogant for you? I used to think that but he's awful knowledgeable and hearing him on the Dan Patrick show brought me around even more.

Lightning in a bottle is what that Strasburg kid is. amazing action on every pitch I saw him throw.

Time for the Reds to get them bats out. Is it going to rain tonight?

[redsfan_12]

11 game hit streak for Brandon

[Kingspoint]

You can't stand Bob Costas? Why? Is he too arrogant for you? I used to think that but he's awful knowledgeable and hearing him on the Dan Patrick show brought me around even more.

Lightning in a bottle is what that Strasburg kid is. amazing action on every pitch I saw him throw.

If you like him that's fine. I won't say anything against him, then.

Strasburg strikes out the side in the 2nd.

Bailey has a 1-2-3 first inning tonight for Louisville.

[Kingspoint]

There you go BP!

Mr. Consistency adds to his Total Base Total (currently 6th in the League).

[Kingspoint]

Giants vs REDS on Thursday matinee MLB-network.

[COM2010]

Just watched an inning of Strasburg, NASTY curve that kid has. His fastball has a lot of cut to it, too.

I do think he's going to lit up, though, primarily because of that slow move to the plate.

[Kingspoint]

Bailey gives up a run in the 2nd inning.

A 2-out RBI-Double.

[COM2010]

Votto looks, almost, disinterested.

[redsfan_12]

jesus Phillips..

[Kingspoint]

Phillips not very good at base-stealing this year.

8 SB, 5 CS.

[COM2010]

STUPID baserunning by Phillips :-/

[redsfan_12]

Votto looks, almost, disinterested.

yeah..he only had a 9 pitch AB :rolleyes:

[Kingspoint]

STUPID baserunning by Phillips :-/

What happened? I typed the Phillips stat before knowing what happened.

[COM2010]

What happened? I typed the Phillips stat before knowing what happened.

He got doubled off first on a line drive by Votto to right. It wasn't even close.

[Reds]

Phillips not very good at base-stealing this year.

8 SB, 5 CS.


Rough numbers, rough play. He's better than that.

It wasn't close. He argued that the 1st basemen foot was pulled off the bag on the stretch. it wasn't. he was grasping for something to disagree about, because he made a bad base running error.

I'd say most of our base running errors come between 1st and 2nd. a disproportional amount probably.

[Kingspoint]

Good thing LeCure's going tonight.

Bailey just gave up 4 Runs in the 2nd inning.

Doesn't look like he'll even get through 5 innings if he's on an 80-pitch count tonight.

Bailey may get another rehab start after this one.

[COM2010]

Why do people say "tend to agree"? I always though that either one agrees, or he doesn't. Maybe I don't understand what the saying really means. :confused:

[redsfan_12]

good..i hope Homer stays down there as long as possible

[Vottomatic]

Why do people say "tend to agree"? I always though that either one agrees, or he doesn't. Maybe I don't understand what the saying really means. :confused:

I tend to agree with you. I don't know what it really means either.

[COM2010]

Nice 'D' by Phillips. Making atonement. :)

[Reds]

Why do people say "tend to agree"? I always though that either one agrees, or he doesn't. Maybe I don't understand what the saying really means. :confused:

they're just allowing themselves wiggle room and allowing for the exception to the rule stuff

[Kingspoint]

The Umpire in Washington is having a blast.

Strasburg just struck out his 5th batter out of the last 6 he's faced.

The Umpire almost had a spas-attack.

[Vottomatic]

Good thing LeCure's going tonight.

Bailey just gave up 4 Runs in the 2nd inning.

Doesn't look like he'll even get through 5 innings if he's on an 80-pitch count tonight.

Bailey may get another rehab start after this one.

Bailey, Frazier, Maloney, Ondrusek to the White Sox for Thornton and Putz.

[Vottomatic]

The Pirates are just toying with Strasburg right now.

[Kingspoint]

6 K's in the last 7 batters.

Strasburg's dealing.

And, he's only throwing strikes. He's not wasting pitches. He's only at 40 pitches through 3 innings.

[Vottomatic]

You traitor. You're supposed to be watching the Reds. :D

[COM2010]

they're just allowing themselves wiggle room and allowing for the exception to the rule stuff

Brings to mind the Tim Wilson song "I Could Be Wrong" :D

http://www.sweetslyrics.com/521507.Tim%20Wilson%20-%20I%20Could%20Be%20Wrong%20.html

[Kingspoint]

You traitor. You're supposed to be watching the Reds. :D

Way to go, Sam!!!!

Let's Go REDS!!!

It's the Heisey-Heroics coming up this inning.

[redsfan_12]

Scotty!

[Vottomatic]

Rolen on the River with a double to start the inning.

[Reds]

You traitor. You're supposed to be watching the Reds. :D

I've thought about muting the nationals game and listening to the Reds game, -- this boy is dealing.

[Vottomatic]

Ha! McCutcheon grounded out. So much for the K's.

[Kingspoint]

And, Rolen continues to lead the Majors in Slugging Percentage!!!

He's having an out-of-body experience this season.

[redsfan_12]

wow. what a break. Sandoval dropped the ball

[COM2010]

Rolen is to a pug, as Gomes is to a bulldog.

POOR running decision there by Rolen, but luck rules. Rolen now on third on a sac fly.

[Vottomatic]

wow. what a break. Sandoval dropped the ball

So much for that Giants defense. Hehehe. :p:

[Vottomatic]

Rolen is to a pug, as Gomes is to a bulldog.

POOR running decision there by Rolen, but luck rules. Rolen now on third on a sac fly.

I tend to agree.

[redsfan_12]

:bang:

[COM2010]

Another bad base running decision by Rolen, now 2 outs. :(

[Kingspoint]

Strasburg is no Mike Leake at the plate.

[Vottomatic]

Another bad base running decision by Rolen, now 2 outs. :(

I tend to agree with you again.

[COM2010]

I tend to agree with you again.

Shush! ;)

[Kingspoint]

I tend to agree with you again.

Please describe. I have no visual.

[redsfan_12]

well, we wasted one

[Reds]

Nix needs to get to second there? no? on the rolen run down play?

[Kingspoint]

Well, that was a wasted Leadoff Double.

[Vottomatic]

Live Topic is at it again.

[COM2010]

kingspoint, redsfan12 just described it perfectly.

[Vottomatic]

Shush! ;)

I tend to agree that I should shush. :p:

[Kingspoint]

Nix needs to get to second there? no? on the rolen run down play?

Easily regardless of the situation. When there's only 1 out, make the 2nd out be at 2nd Base leaving the runner at 3rd (or home).

[COM2010]

Anyone know of a cheap way to buy new baseball card wax (or is it cellophane?) packs? Is there an online site that I can buy from where the packs haven't been opened?

[arkimadee]

I like the way Lecure is pitching but why is our baserunning 2005isk tonight??

[Reds]

Is there an online site that I can buy from where the packs haven't been opened?

Don't know but I found gum in my 1970 topps set the other day! 40 year old gum. :eek: it was hard as a rock and brittle.

[COM2010]

I like the way Lecure is pitching but why is our baserunning 2005isk tonight??

It's a slight adaptation of the Pitch-To-Contact model, it's now called Run-To-Contact. :D

[Kingspoint]

Don't know but I found gum in my 1970 topps set the other day! 40 year old gum. :eek: it was hard as a rock and brittle.

I tried to eat that stuff once and it dissolved in my mouth. It was only about 20 years old, though.

[COM2010]

Don't know but I found gum in my 1970 topps set the other day! 40 year old gum. :eek: it was hard as a rock and brittle.

Come on, admit, you tasted it. (I would have)

[Kingspoint]

Come on, admit, you tasted it. (I would have)

Of course, he did.

[Reds]

I did. guilty.

[COM2010]

I tried to eat that stuff once and it dissolved in my mouth. It was only about 20 years old, though.

hahahahah :D:D:D:D

[Reds]

it tasted like chalk (i've never had chalk though). not something I'm proud of doing. :(

[COM2010]

no doubt. if you swirl it around long enough on your tongue, with enough saliva you MIGHT be able to blow a bubble.

[Kingspoint]

Anyone know of a cheap way to buy new baseball card wax (or is it cellophane?) packs? Is there an online site that I can buy from where the packs haven't been opened?

Just use Google.

There are dozens and dozens of sites.

They are so cheap now. There's no market whatsoever. They're practically giving them away.

I worked in a baseball card shop in 1986 and 1987. The prices are about 1/10th now of what they were then.

[Vottomatic]

Strasburg in trouble. Just gave up a single.

[Kingspoint]

Is LeCure not getting any calls by the Ump.

GameDay has those pitches really close.

[COM2010]

Just use Google.

There are dozens and dozens of sites.

They are so cheap now. There's no market whatsoever. They're practically giving them away.

I worked in a baseball card shop in 1986 and 1987. The prices are about 1/10th now of what they were then.

you mean the wax packs (even ones for this year?) are THAT cheap? wow, things have changed. it seems that about two years ago packs were costing $2+ per.

[Kingspoint]

All 4 pitches to Torres that were called balls, GameDay has as Strikes.

[Reds]

Is LeCure not getting any calls by the Ump.

GameDay has those pitches really close.

Good teasers. But nothing you could call a strike.

[redsfan_12]

nice turn

[COM2010]

BEAUTIFUL play by Phillips.

[redsrolen]

Nice DP. Now how bout some offence!!!!!

[Kingspoint]

Bailey hit a batter in the 3rd, but got him out with a GODP.

Bailey and Cueto are learning this year to be "more efficient" so they can finish 7-8 innings when they are pitching well, and 6 innings when they aren't.

[Vottomatic]

Strasburg gave up 2 singles in a row. The world is coming to an end.

[texasdave]

GDit.. Why are we giving Stubbs the night off when he is blazing at the plate??? I wanna see Heisey play but give Bruce or someone else the night off.. Not the hot hand.. IMO

Because Dusty Baker is the manager.

[Kingspoint]

As I typed that, Strasburg gets the GODP.

Nice job by LeCure, there.

Hopefully, Sam can get through 7 innings tonight.

[Reds]

All 4 pitches to Torres that were called balls, GameDay has as Strikes.

GameDay been drinkin'.

Nice turn by Brandon, we're kinda spoiled because he makes it look easier than most 2nd basemen would.

[Kingspoint]

Strasburg gives up the 2-run homer, and the Nats are losing 2-1.

[COM2010]

strasburg just gave up a 2-run HR

[Vottomatic]

Yahoo's picture of Strasburg had a smile to start the game. Now the smile is gone.

[Kingspoint]

We need to start getting to Cain.

[Kingspoint]

We've had a hit each inning, but no runs.

[Vottomatic]

Welcome to the big leagues Stephen Strasburg.

[Kingspoint]

Good AB by LeCure. Made Cain throw 5 pitches. That's better than most of our hitters tonight.

[Kingspoint]

So, are we not going to run against Benji Molina this series?

[texasdave]

STUPID baserunning by Phillips :-/

I guess you take the bad with the good. Dusty says he has talked to Phillips a number of times, but BP refuses to listen.

[Kingspoint]

Cabrera's 8 for 8 this season.

Maybe he should try to steal.

[redsfan_12]

So, are we not going to run against Benji Molina this series?

yea, just our slow guys. Ala Bruce, Votto, Rolen..i would start the rest.

[redsfan_12]

nice AB Brandon

[texasdave]

Is Sam LeCure gonna "Pipp" Homer Bailey?

[redsrolen]

:bang::bang::bang:

[COM2010]

Nothing But Air.

[Vottomatic]

1-0 Giants. HR by Uribe.

[Reds]

jacked. golf shot. 2nd deck to left. a personal highlight reel shot for Uribe.

rolen let one under his glove, won't see that again this year

[COM2010]

Lecure is getting hammered. His stuff is down and still is getting hammered. No velocity, little movement, human batting tee.

[Reds]

DP. nice damage control.

[COM2010]

yasmani on the phone. he knows a little about the reds :)

[COM2010]

yasmani will never see the Reds ballclub. he really didn't seem that confident about it. i bet he gets traded long before.

[COM2010]

will the offense run empty before the bullpen gets fixed? i'm getting worried. :confused:

[foxfire123]

So, seriously guys, how were the Reds' draft picks? I'm afraid I don;t keep up with the minor leagues and college/HS stuff at all, so I'm lost.

I'm a bad, bad fan, I know... :(

[COM2010]

i suspect that you're kinda' like me, firefox. life and all kinda' takes the front seat. ;) other than that that yasmani guy, i don't know who else the Reds drafted. sounds like they didn't do all that well.

[COM2010]

i think i know why no one is in the game thread. hint: 8 K's. ;-)

EDIT: 9 K's ;-)

[Reds]

rolen let one under his glove, won't see that again this year

i was wrong :(

[texasdave]

yasmani will never see the Reds ballclub. he really didn't seem that confident about it. i bet he gets traded long before.

I don't think you can trade a pick for a year. (or maybe it's six months)

[texasdave]

It is not a good sign when Gameday is calling your fastball a changeup.

[COM2010]

I don't think you can trade a pick for a year. (or maybe it's six months)

he'll be down there a lot longer than 1-2 years.

[COM2010]

It is not a good sign when Gameday is calling your fastball a changeup.

:D:D:D

[Reds]

Sammy pitching a great game. We need to give him some run support!

[texasdave]

he'll be down there a lot longer than 1-2 years.

I misunderstood what you said then when you stated he would be traded before long.

[COM2010]

Yeah, I'm with you!!

[redsfan_12]

that was right down the freaking middle

[COM2010]

Heisey didn't even try. With 2 strikes you DEFEND THE PLATE!

[texasdave]

Heisey didn't even try. With 2 strikes you DEFEND THE PLATE!

Like Adam Dunn!!

[arkimadee]

YouTube - Dr. David Schultz calls Hulk Hogan a homo-sexual (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEIzkLr7JzQ)

In honor of the Reds playing San Fransisco

[COM2010]

Dunn was known for that, but at least he could get the BB. Heisey aint' no Dunn.

[texasdave]

Dunn was known for that, but at least he could get the BB. Heisey aint' no Dunn.

No he is not. But he wasn't a two-strike defender of the plate either. That's all I was alluding to.

[texasdave]

Sam "Bam" LeCure!

[redsfan_12]

lets go Ocab

[COM2010]

It's a debate I won't get into. ;)

Dunn had an eye, he could almost watch himself into a walk. Heisey can't afford to not swing.

[redsfan_12]

cant get a damn break..

[COM2010]

thom and chris talking about weathers right now. they're saying that he's been working out with the Reds.

[nouseforaname]

They are wondering why people booed Weathers? Um..it was because he was AWFUL.

[arkimadee]

They are wondering why people booed Weathers? Um..it was because he was AWFUL.
oh god

[texasdave]

In 3100+ career Plate Appearances with two strikes on him, Adam Dunn OPS'd a whopping .578. I would say whatever approach he was taking with two strikes on him didn't work too well. With two strikes on him he was Willy Taveras.

[arkimadee]

What a play!!!!!!

[COM2010]

what a HELL OF A DIVING CATCH by Heisey!

[Maker_84]

maybe our offense will use that as fuel, doubt it though

[COM2010]

In 3100+ career Plate Appearances with two strikes on him, Adam Dunn OPS'd a whopping .578. I would say whatever approach he was taking with two strikes on him didn't work too well. With two strikes on him he was Willy Taveras.

I agree with you, but you know there are fans 'out there' that will defer to his .OBP. Not even sure what his .OBP was.

[texasdave]

Sam is being hit, but he is hanging in there.

[texasdave]

My kingdom for a run.

[COM2010]

BP gets 'em started by going away for a single.

[texasdave]

Brandon is on. Please be careful on the basepaths, Brandon. He channels Ryan Freel way too often.

[Kingspoint]

Let's get the win for LeCure here.

Bailey went 4.1 IP w/ 86 pitches.

Strasburg has 13 K's on 91 pitches.

[arkimadee]

Here's the question: With Lecure having such a good game.. When do you bring back Bailey? Or do you keep Lecure in the rotation...???? I'd take Harang out of the rotation before I did Bailey if they are going to keep Lecure in.

[Maker_84]

wait brandon is on? it says on gamecast he lined out

[texasdave]

LOL gameday has one out.

[Kingspoint]

Wow!!!

He just struck out the side and has now struck out every starter for the Pirates at least once.

[texasdave]

Did Votto get jobbed on that check swing? Marty thinks he did.

[Maker_84]

i believe in the long run Chapman will be better than Strasberg, why is it he gets absolutely no attention???

[redsfan_12]

Did Votto get jobbed on that check swing? Marty thinks he did.

yes

[texasdave]

Does Strasburg play for the Reds? I thought this was a Reds game thread.

[COM2010]

Did Votto get jobbed on that check swing? Marty thinks he did.

just like a pitcher, when you're chimed in, you get the calls. votto is popping everything up right now.

[arkimadee]

i believe in the long run Chapman will be better than Strasberg, why is it he gets absolutely no attention???
I have seen nothing yet that will convince me that Strasburg won't win the Cy Young by next year

[COM2010]

i believe in the long run Chapman will be better than Strasberg, why is it he gets absolutely no attention???

chapman is struggling with control right now. right now he just throws gas.

[Kingspoint]

Does Strasburg play for the Reds? I thought this was a Reds game thread.

Great accomplishments are worthy of being mentioned in any thread any time.

[texasdave]

Great accomplishments are worthy of being mentioned in any thread any time.

I disagree. Start a thread in Sun Deck. This is a GAME thread.

[foxfire123]

Come'on Scotty!!!

ETA: Crap. :(

[redsfan_12]

pathetic.

[Kingspoint]

I disagree. Start a thread in Sun Deck.

Don't be childish.

[redsfan_12]

I disagree. Start a thread in Sun Deck.

thank you!!

[texasdave]

Don't be childish.

I am not. And stop being a jerk by calling people names.

[Kingspoint]

thank you!!

Also, don't be childish.

[Maker_84]

to say our offense sucks is an understatement. I feel bad for Lecure as he has been our best pitcher in the rotation lately

[redsfan_12]

this is laughable

[Kingspoint]

I am not. And stop being a jerk by calling people names.

I didn't call you a name, I asked you to not be childish, just because you can't appreciate a great accomplishment by somebody.

[COM2010]

this kinda' reminds me of the station-to-station the Reds played when they had Dunn. waiting on that big hit. i think rolen coming off the bench to get those huge hits exposed the reds.

[arkimadee]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[texasdave]

I didn't call you a name, I asked you to not be childish, just because you can't appreciate a great accomplishment by somebody.

We have different forums for a reason.

[redsfan_12]

Also, don't be childish.

lol..your cool

[Maker_84]

i'm calling this game, it's over. The reds have been playing bad lately, or maybe its because we have had to play teams with a pulse and are just not there yet. were gonna struggle for 85 wins

[Kingspoint]

lol..your cool

This is one of the reasons the Sun Deck is the "junior" forum.

[arkimadee]

To be honest, this offense hasn't played consistent since the Houston Saturday game.

[foxfire123]

Oh for Gawd's sake! Can we play like major leaguers please? what is with these guys the last 3-4 games??????

[Kingspoint]

i'm calling this game, it's over. The reds have been playing bad lately, or maybe its because we have had to play teams with a pulse and are just not there yet. were gonna struggle for 85 wins

I'm calling this game "far from over".

[arkimadee]

This game kind of reminds me of the San Diego game that made Dusty have the team meeting

[COM2010]

I agree with the Reds telling Bailey that he's not going to get back into game shape at their expense. Let him pitch down there until he's ready, if he ever is. Jocketty gets it. If the Reds are going to win it, they're going to with it with the guys that are READY to play.

[Kingspoint]

I agree with the Reds telling Bailey that he's not going to get back into game shape at their expense. Let him pitch down there until he's ready, if he ever is. Jocketty gets it. If the Reds are going to win it, they're going to with it with the guys that are READY to play.

Jockety's been good about that with the only exception being Daryl Thompson one time. (Maybe Dallas Buck, too)

[COM2010]

No reason they shouldn't go after Sanchez here. Forget about the run on second base, just get this guy at the plate out.

[Kingspoint]

Should Dusty let Ondrusek pitch out of this?

[Griffey012]

Heeeere's Arthur Sullivan

[arkimadee]

if we had some base running discipline it would be 1-1 right now

[COM2010]

I think he should have. Now he runs Rhodes out there, and unless that guy can last 2 innings, things are going to get really bad. This is what happens when you don't have inning-eating SP's. Lecure was toast.

[texasdave]

I would think Rhodes is only gonna get one out.

[COM2010]

Sandoval looked like a whale standing on its flippers. :)

[texasdave]

King Arthur!!

[arkimadee]

Arthur is a man among boys

[Griffey012]

I think he should have. Now he runs Rhodes out there, and unless that guy can last 2 innings, things are going to get really bad. This is what happens when you don't have inning-eating SP's. Lecure was toast.

LeCure did his job perfectly. He is the #5 starter and he has been better than we can expect. The problem is guys like Harang, and Cueto going 6 innings or less nearly every start.

[texasdave]

Arthur is a man among boys

He is better on one good foot than the rest of the staff (with the possible exception of Leake) is on two.

[COM2010]

Especially with that bad foot of his. I would think THAT would be the motivation that this team needs. Instead, these guy go up to the plate hacking. Where's the discipline (pointed out by others here)???

[texasdave]

Bruce showing some discipline - one pitch, one out.

[arkimadee]

He is better on one good foot than the rest of the staff (with the possible exception of Leake) is on two.
I'll go as far as saying if it wasn't for him we would be below .500 right now

[arkimadee]

come on... let's have a rally here!!!!

[Griffey012]

It's about time we get some lucky hits.

[texasdave]

Okay, let's plate this guy.

[COM2010]

LeCure did his job perfectly. He is the #5 starter and he has been better than we can expect. The problem is guys like Harang, and Cueto going 6 innings or less nearly every start.

I'm with you, Lecure did great, the fact remains. Everytime a SP leaves in the 5th-7th inning this Reds bullpen is soon running on fumes. Once they get another RP, maybe two, then a relief order can be set up.

[Kingspoint]

LeCure did his job perfectly. He is the #5 starter and he has been better than we can expect. The problem is guys like Harang, and Cueto going 6 innings or less nearly every start.

Yes. Those guys need to be finishing 7 innings on a consistent basis.

[texasdave]

Six innings of one-run ball from your #5 is more than acceptable. Let your top of the rotation guys go 7 or 8.

[COM2010]

Heisey must have a hole in his bat.

[Griffey012]

I'm with you, Lecure did great, the fact remains. Everytime a SP leaves in the 5th-7th inning this Reds bullpen is soon running on fumes. Once they get another RP, maybe two, then a relief order can be set up.

I originally wasn't sure if you were calling out LeCure for not going longer or not...glad were on the same page. :beerme:

[Kingspoint]

Not a lot of "positive" outs tonight.

[Griffey012]

Man, maybe that's why Heisey hasn't been playing. That was BAD.

[texasdave]

Yikes!

[foxfire123]

Head*Desk.... no patience again.....

[Kingspoint]

2 more shots at the Giants.

Let's hold them.

[texasdave]

If you are going by Game Score, Lecure's was 57 tonight. (If I did it correctly)

[Griffey012]

I am beginning to think Rhodes is planning to retire after the season and just told Dusty "pitch me ever dang night"

[COM2010]

I originally wasn't sure if you were calling out LeCure for not going longer or not...glad were on the same page. :beerme:

I'm looking at the big picture. Regardless of what spot of the rotation is up, the 'fuel' meter drops everytime the bullpen is asked to pick up things in the 6th inning or so.

[Griffey012]

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[COM2010]

In other news, Dunn has two 2-run HR's tonight. ;)

[Griffey012]

Masset get ahead!!!

[Griffey012]

Where were all 3 of those pitches at? The 2nd was was a little low you could say, but the 1st and 3rd were pretty much in the zone.

[Kingspoint]

Where were all 3 of those pitches at? The 2nd was was a little low you could say, but the 1st and 3rd were pretty much in the zone.

Game Day had them all as strikes. I was wondering that myself.

[COM2010]

Wally Joyner Jr. at the plate.

[Griffey012]

Not only can Masset not get ahead, he can't even get to 1-1.

[Griffey012]

Another one that I am assuming was a strike on gameday.

[texasdave]

Masset needs a shot of confidence. He has great stuff. Throw some strikes.

[foxfire123]

Gawd Masset is useless.

[redsrolen]

:help::help::help::help:

[captainmorgan07]

Nick Masset simply amazes me. Shows how volatile relievers can be year to year. We saw it with Burton last year. There almost a carbon copy of each other at this moment. Good one year, god awful the next year.

[COM2010]

Masset needs a shot of confidence. He has great stuff. Throw some strikes.

Does he really have great stuff? it just seems to me that he 'throws'. A lot of his stuff is flat.

[Kingspoint]

Masset needs a shot of confidence. He has great stuff. Throw some strikes.

Baker's going to try and get him that confidence right now.

[COM2010]

Leave the kid in there. The bullpen is gassed. They aren't scoring anyway.

[George Foster]

This is why Masset needs to be sent down. Major league arm, 3rd grade brain.....

[ILoveWilly]

Here comes another loss. I'm guessing we just sit here and wait until Jocketty decides to get off his ass instead of twiddling his thumbs hoping things magically fix themselves.

[Kingspoint]

Baker's going to try and get him that confidence right now.

Confidence meter just went "down".

[arkimadee]

I just want to hit somebity right now

[captainmorgan07]

You cannot continue to put this kid out there in pressure spots.

[George Foster]

Baker's going to try and get him that confidence right now.

"how that's confidence workin' for ya there Masset?""

[Kingspoint]

Wow.

That was bad.

[TC81190]

I've seen just about everything I need to see from Nick Masset.

[texasdave]

Masset has struck out 36 in 24 innings this year. To me that suggests he has great stuff.

[arkimadee]

WHAT does IT TAKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE!????? THIS BULLPEN HAS SUCKED ALL GD SEASON

[captainmorgan07]

Masset has struck out 36 in 24 innings this year. To me that suggests he has great stuff.

Great stuff but no idea how to use it this year. Nibbling must be contagious in the reds bullpen because they all do it.

[COM2010]

If ..... IF .... the Reds had any better alternatives Masset would be on the way down to Louisville after this game. What can you do?

[FlyerFanatic]

dusty conceded the game when he took rhodes out and put massett in. ridiculous. this bullpen is terrible

[TC81190]

Very disappointing that after having a great bullpen in 08/09, it's now our weak link after picking up the other missing pieces that we needed.

[mlh1981]

Thank God for Rhodes. I can only imagine how much WORSE our bullpen would be without him......

[arkimadee]

Horrible baserunning and a horrific bullpen tonight.. Could be one of the worst games we have played all season.

[George Foster]

Masset has struck out 36 in 24 innings this year. To me that suggests he has great stuff.

ah, what's his ERA????? Only thing that matters. An out is an out. Strike out mean nothing. Glavine and Maddox pitched to contact. They will see you in a couple of years in the HOF.

[Kingspoint]

Masset has struck out 36 in 24 innings this year. To me that suggests he has great stuff.

True. The rest of the game is the mental part. If the REDS can get him to where he's comfortable, he can become a great asset. Don't know any other way to do that though than to throw him out there in situations like this.

The team just has to take some losses so teams like "the REDS" can get quality players instead of buying them like "the Yankees" and "the Cardinals".

[captainmorgan07]

If and when homer bailey is back sam lecure needs to stay and go into the bullpen. Dunno who they would ship back to Louisville i'd say herrera.

[texasdave]

ah, what's his ERA????? Only thing that matters. An out is an out. Strike out mean nothing. Glavine and Maddox pitched to contact. They will see you in a couple of years in the HOF.

Last year his ERA was 2.37 in 76 innings. So he is certainly capable.

[texasdave]

Reds get jobbed on the road and jobbed at home. Clearly safe according to the radio talking heads.

[Reds]

Rhodes should have been in that inning. Masset throwing low trash to a great low ball hitter (molina), giving cain his first rbi all year. you can count on the bullpen to give up a few runs, so you better score early or rally hard late.

[COM2010]

with the bullpen problems being a constant, the change (for the worse) lately has been the offense. it really doesn't matter what hte bullpen gives up, because at last glance this lineup wasn't 'stacked' by any means.

stubbs was safe on that one. dusty SHOULD have gotten himself thrown out there, becuase this team lacks a pulse otherwise.