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Benihana
06-08-2010, 03:50 PM
Feel free to post all discussion about the Reds' second round pick from THE University of Michigan here.

fearofpopvol1
06-08-2010, 04:02 PM
Based on what I've read, I think this looks like a good pick who will contribute at the big league level. It's just a question of will he start or be a 4th OF.

reds44
06-08-2010, 04:04 PM
He seems like a really good pure hitter with solid speed, the major concern is that he doesn't walk, though.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 04:04 PM
Feel free to post all discussion about the Reds' second round pick from THE University of Michigan here.

Congrats to the kid. He gets to leave Michigan for Ohio.

Luckiest guy in the world.

JKam
06-08-2010, 04:08 PM
This guy intrigues me more than Grandal.

Cedric
06-08-2010, 04:12 PM
In all seriousness I love the pick. The guy has plus tools almost everywhere. The only thing that worries me is the thumb injury.

15fan
06-08-2010, 04:26 PM
I hope he's more Barry Larkin than Drew Henson.

Best case scenario for this native Ohioan is that down the road he wins a game for the Reds by being hit with a pitch in a tie game with the bases loaded in the 9th.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-08-2010, 04:40 PM
I predict he signs for $600K and is another Chris Heisey.

RedsManRick
06-08-2010, 04:47 PM
Doug has his college stats on his site: www.redsminoleagues.com.



Year Age AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
2010 21 148 40 62 9 5 5 40 5 20 .419 .453 .649 1.102
2009 20 192 55 66 11 1 12 62 33 36 .344 .468 .599 1.067
2008 19 141 27 43 5 0 3 23 11 25 .305 .376 .404 .780

Hard to complain about those numbers, not that I have any context for them. I'd sure like to learn more about why his walks dropped off so dramatically his Junior year.

edabbs44
06-08-2010, 04:51 PM
Doug has his college stats on his site: www.redsminoleagues.com.



Year Age AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
2010 21 148 40 62 9 5 5 40 5 20 .419 .453 .649 1.102
2009 20 192 55 66 11 1 12 62 33 36 .344 .468 .599 1.067
2008 19 141 27 43 5 0 3 23 11 25 .305 .376 .404 .780

Hard to complain about those numbers, not that I have any context for them. I'd sure like to learn more about why his walks dropped off so dramatically his Junior year.

Maybe he wanted to swing the bat after he missed a bunch of time.

The odd thing is that his K rate improved and BA went up dramatically. So even though his walk rate drop in a huge way, he wasn't making poor decisions in those ABs.

RedsManRick
06-08-2010, 05:09 PM
Maybe he wanted to swing the bat after he missed a bunch of time.

The odd thing is that his K rate improved and BA went up dramatically. So even though his walk rate drop in a huge way, he wasn't making poor decisions in those ABs.

Could just be he got a lot of good stuff to hit, but the Ks and Walks didn't fall in equal proportion -- seems to signal a change in approach. I only worry because you're more likely to be rewarded for just making contact with a metal bat than with a wood one.

Benihana
06-08-2010, 05:11 PM
I predict he signs for $600K and is another Chris Heisey.

Nothing wrong with that in the second round.

Obviously, I love to get another Wolverine playing in the Reds system. While I don't love his ceiling and I'm not sure where he fits in given the presence of Stubbs and Heisey on the big league team and guys like Yorman, Sappelt, and Fellhauer in the minors, I like the fact that he's signable (after taking Grandal) and good value at #62.

All in all, he strikes me as a Twins type of pick- similiar to a Denard Span or Ben Revere.

BuckeyeRedleg
06-08-2010, 05:18 PM
Nothing wrong with that in the second round.

Obviously, I love to get another Wolverine playing in the Reds system. While I don't love his ceiling and I'm not sure where he fits in given the presence of Stubbs and Heisey on the big league team and guys like Yorman, Sappelt, and Fellhauer in the minors, I like the fact that he's signable (after taking Grandal) and good value at #62.

All in all, he strikes me as a Twins type of pick- similiar to a Denard Span or Ben Revere.

Agree.

jmcclain19
06-08-2010, 05:47 PM
RMR - a few people have pointed out that LaMarre broke his thumb in the 3rd game this season which has greatly decreased his power #s. How that equates with the loss of his batting eye this year though I'm not exactly sure about.

Puffy
06-08-2010, 05:51 PM
The one thing that worries me about Heady LaMarre ("That's Headley" - shameless History of the World reference there) is that he did not fare very well with wood bats in Cape Cod last summer. And I believe that was before thumb injury, no?

JaxRed
06-08-2010, 06:36 PM
I believe that was Blazing Saddles Puffy (seems me and you are talking movies today!!)

Vottomatic
06-08-2010, 06:40 PM
Excuse me while I whip this out.

Puffy
06-08-2010, 06:45 PM
Yeah, History of the World was Count De Money, "Thats Count De Monet, you twit"

redsmetz
06-09-2010, 07:45 AM
Here's a link to the Ann Arbor newspaper about LeMarre and the draft

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-centerfielder-ryan-lamarre-goes-in-second-round-to-cincinnati-reds/

Benihana
06-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Here's a link to the Ann Arbor newspaper about LeMarre and the draft

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/michigan-centerfielder-ryan-lamarre-goes-in-second-round-to-cincinnati-reds/

From that article:


LaMarre said he expects to sit down with Reds officials next week to try and iron out a deal. He's anxious, though, to get his professional career going despite having to wait until the draft's second day to find out where he'd be going.

Looks like LaMarre should be one of the first picks to sign. :thumbup:

I'm guessing he starts in Dayton.

BRM
06-09-2010, 11:49 AM
From that article:



Looks like LaMarre should be one of the first picks to sign. :thumbup:

I'm guessing he starts in Dayton.

Don't the Reds normally send college kids to Billings?

OnBaseMachine
06-09-2010, 11:54 AM
From the Reds website:


After a big junior season, he thinks he has the ability to become a five-tool player, with an emphasis on his power and speed.

"We've seen him play extensively through his three years at Michigan," Reds senior director of scouting Chris Buckley said. "We've seen him each spring, each summer, last summer we saw him at the Cape. We were very happy he was up there at 62 -- a center fielder, very good tools, outstanding runner. We were happy to get him."


http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100609&content_id=10977568&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Benihana
06-09-2010, 12:14 PM
Don't the Reds normally send college kids to Billings?

I think college position players that are drafted in the first two rounds usually start at Dayton, especially those that come from big time programs. Alsonso started in Sarasota, Cozart started in Dayton IIRC. Especially with Yorman starting in Billings, I see no reason why LaMarre wouldn't start at Dayton if not Lynchburg, especially if he signs soon.

What will be interesting to see is where Grandal will start, especially if he signs before the deadline (which I'm skeptical of).

jmcclain19
06-09-2010, 04:06 PM
From the Reds website:



http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100609&content_id=10977568&vkey=news_cin&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Lets just hope he's a little more Chris Heisey and a little less BJ Szymanski

OGB
06-09-2010, 06:24 PM
The one thing that worries me about Heady LaMarre ("That's Headley" - shameless History of the World reference there)

You're killin' me smalls.

Mario-Rijo
06-09-2010, 09:10 PM
I like the kids with work ethic who also have good talent, sounds like one of the better picks of the draft for the Reds. Just as a side note I know a lot of people are trying to gauge his speed. He seems to have plenty of it but because of a bit of a long stride his initial explosion isn't the greatest. Thanks to my guy Lark over at Redlegs blog for that tidbit. If he can just curb that aggression at the plate some he should be a solid major leaguer. If not he could become the next Darnell McDonald.

Gallen5862
06-10-2010, 05:42 PM
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/chat/2010/2610175.html

Johnny (New York City): What's Ryan LaMarre's ceiling? People were thinking he might go late first round. With the Reds getting Grandal at 12 (after his being rumored at 4) and LaMarre in the 2nd round, that's gotta be considered a win for them in a weak draft, right?

Jim Callis: Yes. I love LaMarre. Chance to be a five-tool center fielder, great makeup, great pick. I would have popped him late in the first round.

redsof72
06-13-2010, 12:54 AM
He's a little faster than I expected. Went from first to third on a single to right-center that few players in the organization could have matched. Quite a bit faster than Fellhauer.

Ghosts of 1990
06-13-2010, 09:40 PM
I predict he signs for $600K and is another Chris Heisey.

Screams a better bodied Heisey to me

OesterPoster
06-14-2010, 08:07 AM
Just 2 games in, and he's got 3 stolen bases already.

SirFelixCat
06-14-2010, 11:32 PM
Just 2 games in, and he's got 3 stolen bases already.

All in his first game to boot!

OnBaseMachine
04-07-2011, 01:06 AM
Ken Griffey Sr. with some high praise for Ryan LaMarre...


LaMarre, a former prep football and hockey standout from Michigan, had a .370 on base percentage in 60 games for Dayton. Though a right-handed batter, Griffey compares LaMarre to former Red Sox and Angels All-Star centerfielder Fred Lynn.



http://www.bakersfield.com/news/sports/blaze/x233130281/Season-to-begin-with-new-affiliate-manager

JKam
04-07-2011, 03:05 AM
Fred Lynn would look good in LF right now.

OnBaseMachine
04-07-2011, 03:14 AM
Fred Lynn would look good in LF right now.

He's 59 years old, I'm not sure how much he would help now. ;)

JKam
04-07-2011, 03:23 AM
He's 59 years old, I'm not sure how much he would help now.

LOL. I guess you're right. I would have guessed 70 years old though if you asked me what I thought his age is now.

Blitz Dorsey
04-08-2011, 02:13 AM
Even an Ohio State fan like me can admit this ... Reds have had some really good luck with guys who played college ball at Michigan. For example: Three-fourths of the starting infield on the 1990 World Series championship squad (Sabo, Larkin and Morris).

The DARK
05-21-2011, 12:49 PM
Update: After a slow start, Lamarre is hitting .290 on the season. He hasn't shown much power so far with a 2 HR, a triple, and no doubles, but in 100 AB, he's had 11 walks. He also has 11 steals, and has only been caught once.

Thoughts so far?

nemesis
05-22-2011, 04:28 PM
Update: After a slow start, Lamarre is hitting .290 on the season. He hasn't shown much power so far with a 2 HR, a triple, and no doubles, but in 100 AB, he's had 11 walks. He also has 11 steals, and has only been caught once.

Thoughts so far?

The lack of power in a league know for inflating power numbers is a bit concerning. He didn't really show any real power in Dayton last year either. Some players just don't transfer to the wooden bat that well. Now I reserve judgement for at least one more full season whether or not he can make the switch especially with all the injuries he has suffered in the last two years. But, he has to show 20 to 25 HR power potential to be a valuable option for the Reds. Or he is just another Heisey, Sappelt, Fellhauser, viewed kinda player by the Reds management. Solid defensively, 4th or 5th OF type offensively...

That being said, He is Jason Bay if he reaches his supposed upside, Norris Hopper if he continues this trend.

Benihana
05-22-2011, 04:51 PM
But, he has to show 20 to 25 HR power potential to be a valuable option for the Reds.
Won't happen. He was never expected to ever hit 20-25 HR


Or he is just another Heisey, Sappelt, Fellhauser, viewed kinda player by the Reds management. Solid defensively, 4th or 5th OF type offensively...

Probably what he is- another Heisey or Sappelt, which is worth something. Doesn't really help to have three of those guys though, might as well cash one of them in for a need somewhere else.

nemesis
05-22-2011, 09:27 PM
Won't happen. He was never expected to ever hit 20-25 HR

I have seen different reports on this. I even believe on this board he had the potential to develop that kinda power. Interesting you don't think he will. I agree with you. Just curious why you believe that...?

Probably what he is- another Heisey or Sappelt, which is worth something. Doesn't really help to have three of those guys though, might as well cash one of them in for a need somewhere else.

Agreed. I think if the Reds are going to cash in it has to be Heisey and it has to be this year. Maybe part of a package for Reyes or Kemp.

The DARK
05-22-2011, 11:32 PM
He may not have the power like Heisey or the hit tool like Sappelt, but he does have more speed and better defense, apparently, than either. They're all valuable guys; Sappelt and Lamarre, however, are probably better prepared to be starters, unless Heisey figures out how to hit more fastballs. While I personally like Heisey, I think with Sapp, Lamarre, and all the other future outfielders and utility guys in the system, his time here may be limited.

Benihana
05-23-2011, 10:11 AM
Agreed. I think if the Reds are going to cash in it has to be Heisey and it has to be this year. Maybe part of a package for Reyes or Kemp.

I would look to deal Sappelt (or even LaMarre) first. Heisey has an important role with the big club which I wouldn't want to disturb. Sappelt is younger and has potentially more upside, which could feasibly be more intriguing to a team like the Mets or Dodgers which will have to basically totally start from scratch.

Sappelt's value is at an all-time high, and is unquestionably the #1 guy in the organization I would be looking to trade. Depending on whether or not he can actually play LF, Alonso would be #2.