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Reds Fanatic
06-16-2010, 05:45 PM
Lineups from Fay:


Tonight – 7:10 pm at GABP vs. Dodgers:

Cabrera 6

Phillips 4

Votto 3

Rolen 5

Gomes 7

Bruce 9

Stubbs 8

Hernandez 2

Leake 1

vs. Dodgers LH Kershaw (6-3, 3.13)

DODGERS lineup

Furcal 6

Martin 2

Ethier 9

Ramirez 7

Loney 3

Kemp 8

Blake 5

DeWitt 4

Kershaw 1 (vs. RH Leake, 5-0, 2.68)

* The Reds have a two-game losing streak, and have not lost three straight since dropping five straight from April 14-18.

MississippiRed
06-16-2010, 05:57 PM
You stepped up to the plate today, Reds Fanatic. There is a lot of pressure on you to stop this losing streak!

redsfan1966
06-16-2010, 07:32 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Joe Morgan is peddling a piece of garbage?....

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:05 PM
Hey, its just another game.... I've been saying this year... Its not about how you lose the game, its about how you rebound from it....

Here is to a win tonight. :beerme:

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:10 PM
Furcal grounds out to 1st.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:12 PM
Martin pops out to short right, 2 down.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:13 PM
Etheir smacks a base hit past the diving Phillips for a single.

Chip R
06-16-2010, 08:15 PM
Manny Ks

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:15 PM
Man-Ram K's swinging....

After half, 0-0

oneupper
06-16-2010, 08:15 PM
Leake is fearless.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:18 PM
OCab grounds out to 3rd.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:20 PM
Phillips hammy still bothering him.... ugh!

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:21 PM
I've got a question that maybe one of you can answer. Who was the NL umpire back in the 80's who had the unbelievably loud "STEEEEEEEERIKE ONNNNNNE" call?

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:22 PM
On the 9th pitch of the AB, Phillips sneaks a single past 2nd base.

Chip R
06-16-2010, 08:22 PM
I've got a question that maybe one of you can answer. Who was the NL umpire back in the 80's who had the unbelievably loud "STEEEEEEEERIKE ONNNNNNE" call?

Dutch Rennert, I do believe.

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:22 PM
Nice Brandon.

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:22 PM
THANK YOU. It's been bugging me all day. Thanks

I kept thinking wendlestadt, froeming, but I knew those weren't right. That's the kind of trivial crap that would've kept me up tonight. :O)

Raisor
06-16-2010, 08:23 PM
Chat is open for business.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:24 PM
Votto K's swinging - 2 down.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:26 PM
High fly ball to left, Manny has trouble but finds it.

After 1, 0-0

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:29 PM
Loney grounds out to 2nd. 1 down.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:30 PM
Kemp strikes out LQQKing... :)

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:31 PM
Blake singles to right on a bloop.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:33 PM
DeWitt lines out to Center...

1 hit, 1 left after 1.5, 0-0

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:36 PM
Flying Johnny doubles to left.

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:36 PM
Jonny with a rocket over Manny's head. Leadoff double!

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:37 PM
Bruce swings at the 1st pitch and pops up to 2nd. 1 down.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 08:38 PM
Bruce swings at the 1st pitch and pops up to 2nd. 1 down.

High Pitch, to boot.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:39 PM
Stubby pops up to 2nd base on the 4th pitch. 2 down.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 08:40 PM
stub·by (stb)
adj. stub·bi·er, stub·bi·est
1.
a. Having the nature of or suggesting a stub, as in shortness, broadness, or thickness: stubby fingers and toes.
b. Having a short, stocky build; thickset.
2. Short and blunt, as from much use: a stubby pencil. See Regional Note at stob.
3. Covered with or made of stubs.
4. Short and bristly: a stubby beard.

Drew is long-legged and shaves every day.

How about calling him UNCLE Drew?

nate
06-16-2010, 08:41 PM
Chat is open for business.

Dude, you have to sell it!

Chat that COULD change your LIFE in MAGICAL WAYS (but no guarantees) is now OPEN!

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:41 PM
Razor grounds out to 2nd.

1 hit, 1 left - After 2, 0-0

reds44
06-16-2010, 08:44 PM
That was beyond dumb by Phillips.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:44 PM
Kershaw chops one to 2nd.... And an Error on the throw... Sloooooooooooooooopy.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:45 PM
Furcal pops out to Rolen at 3rd... He made over the shoulder, popped out of the glove and barehanded it for the out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:45 PM
The Reds giveth and the Reds taketh away. Nice snag.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:47 PM
Martin K's swinging - 2 down.

reds44
06-16-2010, 08:49 PM
We are playing like garbage.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:49 PM
Etheir pops into shallow center - Stubbs couldn't quite get to it.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 08:50 PM
Great defense this half inning.

reds44
06-16-2010, 08:50 PM
Etheir pops into shallow center - Stubbs couldn't quite get to it.
Broke back, that's gotta be an out.

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:50 PM
The Reds giveth and the Reds taketh away and the Reds giveth back again.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 08:53 PM
Manny grounds out 5-3 for the 5th out of the inning.

RedsMan3203
06-16-2010, 08:53 PM
Manny grounds out to 3rd.

2 hits, 2 left - after 2.5, 0-0

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 08:53 PM
The good news about last inning was that while the Reds didn't score, they did get Hernandez out of the way so Leake can leadoff this inning. ;)

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 08:53 PM
2 misplays that inning and it didn't even look like it phased Leake. Nice job kid.

VR
06-16-2010, 08:55 PM
2 misplays that inning and it didn't even look like it phased Leake. Nice job kid.

There should be a term for that.

Anti-Cueto perhaps?

BCubb2003
06-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Lesser pitchers would have given up unearned runs.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 09:01 PM
Wow. Kershaw owns Votto

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2010, 09:02 PM
Brandon continues to look great at the dish. And Votto continues his slow slide towards looking up at .300.

mbgrayson
06-16-2010, 09:02 PM
Votto up 5 times now in his career vs. Kershaw, and now has 5 Ks to show for it.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 09:06 PM
Phillips can be very annoying, but he also can be very good.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:09 PM
Trivia Question: Ryan Freel is my answer.

(He did against the dodgers).

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:16 PM
Chirp. Chirp. (crickets).

Raisor
06-16-2010, 09:17 PM
And Votto continues his slow slide towards looking up at .300.

last 7 days
.263 .417 .579 .996

last 14 days
.238 .373 .405 .777

last 28 days
.288 .402 .521 .923

I couldn't care less if he's under .300 as long as that OBP stays up around .370+ (and he's got a long ways to go to drop that low) He had a bad one week, two weeks ago. He's fine.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:21 PM
If I'm counting correctly that is 13 consecutive innings in which the Reds have not scored.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:24 PM
If I'm counting correctly that is 13 consecutive innings in which the Reds have not scored.

Yes, unfortunately.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:26 PM
Manny walks. Bases loaded for Loney.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:28 PM
Loney puts LA ahead 2-0.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Do we give up now?

dougdirt
06-16-2010, 09:29 PM
Was it just me or was Votto playing really far from the line on that considering there was a lefty at the plate?

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Huge AB here. Got to keep this at 2-0.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 09:30 PM
Was it just me or was Votto playing really far from the line on that considering there was a lefty at the plate?

Yep. Thought the same. He's been cheating a lot into the hole there. That was part of the reason for the error on the Kershaw grounder. He was so far away he couldn't get back.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:31 PM
Pretty good job considering.

BoydsOfSummer
06-16-2010, 09:33 PM
Gomes was on Jim Rome today. I caught the last two minutes of it. Rome found him Jungle-ishious...or whatever his coolness calls it.

RedsManRick
06-16-2010, 09:36 PM
Hernandez more interested in watching the ball than running to first. Cost himself a shot at a double.

RedsManRick
06-16-2010, 09:37 PM
Was it just me or was Votto playing really far from the line on that considering there was a lefty at the plate?

I wonder if he was positioned there on his own volition or if Dusty asked him to play that far off the line? :evil:

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:39 PM
Things just not going the Reds way here recently.

BoydsOfSummer
06-16-2010, 09:40 PM
Looked safe to me. At least on those angles.

RedsManRick
06-16-2010, 09:40 PM
Ump at a real bad angle for that kind of a swipe tag. Sure would love to have a booth ump help out on that one...

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:41 PM
Just really can't catch a break, if he's called safe the tying run is on second for Phillips.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 09:44 PM
Even Dodger announcers thought he was safe. Oh well.

nate
06-16-2010, 09:45 PM
He might've been safe but why send the slowest guy on a close play like that?

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:46 PM
I would've sent him, they haven't scored in seemingly forever and your up against Manny whose not exactly Vlad in the outfield.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:47 PM
That's all she wrote.

dougdirt
06-16-2010, 09:49 PM
He might've been safe but why send the slowest guy on a close play like that?

Because Manny was the left fielder?

toledodan
06-16-2010, 09:49 PM
dusty leaving a pitcher in too long?

Reds/Flyers Fan
06-16-2010, 09:49 PM
This series:

Dodgers 17
Reds 0

And the annual tailspin has begun

CTA513
06-16-2010, 09:49 PM
Harang like performance from Leake.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:50 PM
It's damned if you do damned if you don't for Dusty tonight. Leake>Pen but with a good pen he would've never hit the last half inning.

alloverjr
06-16-2010, 09:50 PM
http://weblogs.cltv.com/news/weather/traffic/pumpkin1.jpg

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 09:51 PM
Ramon clearly safe, baseball umpiring has gotten pretty bad this year.

Playadlc
06-16-2010, 09:51 PM
The Dodgers flat own us. This series is going to kill our pythag.

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 09:53 PM
So, in years past, the West Coast swing has always sunk this team.In Soviet Russia, West Coast swing come to you.


Welcome to the USSR. :cry:

Red in Chicago
06-16-2010, 09:57 PM
that was not a strike

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 09:57 PM
OMG. That ball almost hit the dirt and called Rolen out.


Rolen losing his mind and gets tossed, so does Dusty.

CrackerJack
06-16-2010, 09:57 PM
Rolen bunting with 2 on down by 5 late in the game...ok

edabbs44
06-16-2010, 09:58 PM
Wow, awful call. And hopefully Rolen and Dusty just got this team a little charged up.

reds44
06-16-2010, 09:58 PM
It was fun while it lasted.

Red in Chicago
06-16-2010, 09:58 PM
was he making up for the prior call, which was closer to the strike zone?

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 09:58 PM
Hell, even Kershaw knew he walked him. Jesus Christ, that's not even a tiny bit close. What in the hell?!?!

Playadlc
06-16-2010, 09:59 PM
Hands down the worst strike call I have ever seen.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 09:59 PM
Right now the Dodger announcers are literally laughing at how bad that call was.

Lyons said he would gladly get thrown out if that was called on him

nate
06-16-2010, 10:00 PM
Terrible.

If you get Scott Rolen so worked up he gets tossed, you've made a crappy call.

To put it mildly.

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:00 PM
That was one of the worst calls I've seen in a LONG time. HOW on earth was that a strike??! I don't blame Rolen or Dusty for going off on that idiot. I was going off in my basement and the crowd is still letting him have it. I want to see a replay of the bench going off on that call too. I don't blame them either. :rant:

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 10:00 PM
Hands down the worst strike call I have ever seen.

This. Just unbelievable. The officiating has been horrendous the last 2 season, as a whole.

CTA513
06-16-2010, 10:00 PM
Ump has done a great job of screwing the Reds tonight.

I'm not sure how anyone who is not blind can think that pitch was a strike.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:00 PM
Harry is hanging his head in shame tonight.

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:01 PM
I so badly wanted to see Gomes hit one into Kentucky after that horrible call. :bang:

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:01 PM
Dodgers MVP tonight... Hunter Wendelstadt.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:03 PM
A decent ump tonight behind the plate, and the Reds are in this game right now.

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:05 PM
I wondered about this ump earlier tonight (he has a name that I remember so I have to have crabbed about him before, LOL) but now that I've read a few things here, I guess I was right that he kind of sucks. Lovely. :eek:

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:05 PM
It is very bizarre to hear "Blister in the Sun" on the ballpark organ.

edabbs44
06-16-2010, 10:06 PM
Crap call but you still have to convert.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:06 PM
I wondered about this ump earlier tonight (he has a name that I remember so I have to have crabbed about him before, LOL) but now that I've read a few things here, I guess I was right that he kind of sucks. Lovely. :eek:

What's sad is that his Dad is one of the best umps in the history of the game.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:07 PM
Sometimes I really wonder what Stubbs is thinking about at the plate.

traderumor
06-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Hunter Wendelstedt-nepotism stinks

reds1869
06-16-2010, 10:08 PM
I am in disbelief. That was the worst strike call I've seen as a fan. When added onto the missed play at the play call on Ramon the ump really has decided this one.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:08 PM
No offense ladies and gents but the reds bullpen will make that lost inning a non factor

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:08 PM
Crap call but you still have to convert.

They did. They got the run in, and Bruce advanced the runner with a single. Hard to keep a long rally going when you only have two outs to work with.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:10 PM
Sometimes I really wonder what Stubbs is thinking about at the plate.

Well, if he's anything like me, he's thinking nachos.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:11 PM
Well, if he's anything like me, he's thinking nachos.

Mmmmmm nachos

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Like to see Ondro go 2 man he looked good but he'll be pinch hit for

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Nice inning by Logan. I wonder how much better he would have done last night if he wasn't coming in to clean up someone else's mess. He seems to be a guy that does really well if he comes in with a clean inning.

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 10:14 PM
They did. They got the run in, and Bruce advanced the runner with a single. Hard to keep a long rally going when you only have two outs to work with.

Yuppers. And we will never know if Gomes sees the same pitch sequence w/ the bases loaded and no outs.


I know this is probably dumb, but I'm having a hard time not letting that call ruin my evening. I'm so fired up right now...HUGE spot in the game, HUGE spot in the season, and screw 'getting the breaks'...I just want the game called fairly.

SO pissed off right now. :rant:

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Crap call but you still have to convert.

But you are right, contending teams don't let umps decided games for them. They overcome the umps mistakes.

reds1869
06-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Mmmmmm nachos

If you are ever in Memphis for a minor league game, you must try the barbeque nachos. Heaven on a plate.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:14 PM
Nice inning by Logan. I wonder how much better he would have done last night if he wasn't coming in to clean up someone else's mess. He seems to be a guy that does really well if he comes in with a clean inning.

Truly this is what the bullpen needs. Someone who can get a strikeout in a tight situation plus get the ball over the plate

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:16 PM
If you are ever in Memphis for a minor league game, you must try the barbeque nachos. Heaven on a plate.

Two of the greatest foods together on one plate. Must be Heaven, indeed.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:16 PM
If you are ever in Memphis for a minor league game, you must try the barbeque nachos. Heaven on a plate.

Thanks for the tip BBQ and nachos mmmmmm

kaldaniels
06-16-2010, 10:16 PM
But you are right, contending teams don't let umps decided games for them. They overcome the umps mistakes.

Over the course of the year. Definetly.

But that call having happened 15 minutes ago that would have loaded the bases with no outs...I'm currently up in arms.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:18 PM
Micah might have power but he has no plate discipline to speak of

Cedric
06-16-2010, 10:20 PM
Does anyone have the Reds record and RS/RA against anyone not named Pirates/Stros?

Thanks in advance.

forfreelin04
06-16-2010, 10:26 PM
I'm going to keep ripping on the reds bullpen before they pitch, it seems to work well

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:27 PM
I wasn't hungry at all before but now I want nachos. :laugh:

nate
06-16-2010, 10:30 PM
Same pitch that Rolen got thrown out on.

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:32 PM
Part Kershaw, part Hunter for that start..... :rant:

SirFelixCat
06-16-2010, 10:35 PM
I guess I'm the weird one...I just can't let that go. :rant:

traderumor
06-16-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm sure when Harry was bouncing little Hunter on his knee, he told him "son, never, never, never, ever, ever try the make up call. It will make you look like a chump, you'll have to unjustly end up throwing someone out, and I'll have to come out there and kick your behind."

edabbs44
06-16-2010, 10:41 PM
Time for Stubbs to step up.

edabbs44
06-16-2010, 10:42 PM
crud

CTA513
06-16-2010, 10:43 PM
Hit it hard but Furcal caught it and doubled off Gomes at 2nd to end the inning.

oneupper
06-16-2010, 10:43 PM
Did some break a mirror while under a ladder and stepping on a crack in the sidewalk?
Or something?

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:45 PM
Things just aren't going right in this series. I blame the Royals. I think they put a hex on GABP when they were here. ;) (I wonder if a black cat also got into the clubhouse somehow this week along with those other superstitions.)

HeatherC1212
06-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Manny and his annoying pals can't get out of town fast enough for me. :bang:

CTA513
06-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Ramirez just welcomed Jordan Smith to the majors.

6-1 Dodgers

oneupper
06-16-2010, 10:49 PM
Manny was aiming at the baby in the RF stands.

BCubb2003
06-16-2010, 10:50 PM
The baseball gods woke up and realized an intern had put the Reds in first place.

Cedric
06-16-2010, 10:51 PM
I think a lot of hitters are going to love welcoming Jordan Smith to the Majors.

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 10:51 PM
On the bright side I'm driving up in the morning and the Reds are 5-1 when I attend this season. They can't get swept at home can they?

alloverjr
06-16-2010, 10:52 PM
This kid will fit right in.

CTA513
06-16-2010, 10:54 PM
Kemp might want to hang his head in shame after getting struck out by both Ondrusek and Smith tonight.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:54 PM
Does anyone have the Reds record and RS/RA against anyone not named Pirates/Stros?

Thanks in advance.

25-24 238/270

But the Cards get similar results if you take out their games against Milwaukee and Atlanta. They are 28-27 and I'm too lazy to do the math on their runs, but it looks very similar.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:55 PM
Ramirez just welcomed Jordan Smith to the majors.

6-1 Dodgers

Really no shame in that. If it was Jamey Carrol, however...

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2010, 10:59 PM
Heisey homers. 6-2 Dodgers.

TheNext44
06-16-2010, 10:59 PM
Upper Decker!

redsfaninbsg
06-16-2010, 11:01 PM
The Reds have scored 5 runs in the last 3 games if this 6-2 score holds. The pitching has been putrid but the offense has to score.

Reds Fanatic
06-16-2010, 11:01 PM
That is it. Reds lose 6-2. 3rd straight loss.

Degenerate39
06-16-2010, 11:20 PM
I forgot what it was like to win

Tony Cloninger
06-17-2010, 02:09 AM
That Ramirez homer basically shows what a joke the RF dimensions are for this ballpark. Everywhere else...that is basically off the wall or caught beacuse the RF is playing a normal deeper.

Ron Madden
06-17-2010, 04:57 AM
I hate the Dodgers.

GAC
06-17-2010, 05:50 AM
Reds hitting hard times, but so are the Cards (thankfully). I didn't think they were going to have much of a chance vs Kershaw. Heck of a lefty.

Reds got one heck of a schedule going into the AS break. We're now off to the west coast for 6 games vs Seattle and Oakland before we come home for 6 vs the Indians and Phillies.

Cards don't have it easy either..... A's, Toronto, KC, and D'Backs.

Oh yeah..... and Wendelstedt really put the screws to us last night.

mth123
06-17-2010, 07:33 AM
As West Coast trips go, Oakland and Seattle is one that shouldn't be a killer for the Reds. Neither team is all that hot, the parks should be more suited for our pitchers and the way that the Reds are put together adding the DH helps a lot. Using Gomes to Dh while getting Heisey or Nx in the line-up should be a help or they could use the spot to give the gimpy (Phillips) or aging (Rolen) guys a break while still keeping their bats in the line-up.

lollipopcurve
06-17-2010, 10:56 AM
It's damned if you do damned if you don't for Dusty tonight. Leake>Pen but with a good pen he would've never hit the last half inning.

More or less, yeah. There's no way Leake should have been pitching to Ethier with 2 on and 2 out in the 6th. He was at 100 pitches (I'd have pulled him after the 5th) and it was the 4th time through the lineup.

Problem being, as noted, the pen is shredded. They need to experiment with another lefthander soon, like real soon.

But Baker needs to be especially careful with Leake. I'm yet to see him be careful with any starting pitcher. Not one.