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redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 10:29 PM
Cabrera 6
Phillips 4
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes dh
Bruce 9
Nix 7
Hernandez 2
Stubbs 8
Lecure

GIDP
06-19-2010, 10:30 PM
Its nice to have the teams best line up out there instead of the Bakermetric one.

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 10:32 PM
Its nice to have the teams best line up out there instead of the Bakermetric one.

thank you. I feel slightly better about this lineup. But I still think we will get beat. We neverrrrrrrrrrr evrrrrrrrrr beat good pitchers

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:11 PM
im going to be keeping GABP score tonight. well done Ocab, 1-0 reds

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:11 PM
1st pitch swinging. guess we're gonna let felix go a CG tonight

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:14 PM
bs..can you hit a damn homerun in this park?

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:14 PM
votto 1 pitch. gonna be a long night.

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:14 PM
8 pitches... :eek:

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:14 PM
and votto too! 2-0 reds @ GABP. FFS how hard do you have to hit a ball for it to go out here? id never ever play here if i was a player

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:15 PM
votto 1 pitch. gonna be a long night.

would you ***** about votto swinging at the first pitch if u knew he was hitting .440 on the first pitch this season?

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:15 PM
would you ***** about votto swinging at the first pitch if u knew he was hitting .440 on the first pitch this season?

yep, i hate the first pitch swing crap.

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:16 PM
gonna be a long night

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:16 PM
yep, i hate the first pitch swing crap.
do you hate hitting .400+ ? some of you people and the stuff you whine and cry about amaze me.

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:18 PM
do you hate hitting .400+ ? some of you people and the stuff you whine and cry about amaze me.

did votto get on base his first AB?

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:18 PM
do you hate hitting .400+ ? some of you people and the stuff you whine and cry about amaze me.

when he goes 9 innings and we get 4 hits, dont complain

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:18 PM
did votto get on base his first AB?
:rolleyes:

im jsut going to ignore you because you are obviously unreasonable

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:19 PM
:rolleyes:

im jsut going to ignore you because you are obviously unreasonable

if you like seeing felix throw 8 pitches per inning. than you'll love the first pitch hack

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:22 PM
he was clearly out

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:22 PM
if you like seeing felix throw 8 pitches per inning. than you'll love the first pitch hack

i have felix on both of my fantasy teams so i dont care if he goes 9 innings of shutout ball, but as a reds fan id like to win. and 2 of the balls were absolute blasts


WOW UMPs suck

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:23 PM
bet they score lol

TheOnlyRedsFan
06-19-2010, 11:24 PM
bet they score lol

i'll take that

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:24 PM
i have felix on both of my fantasy teams so i dont care if he goes 9 innings of shutout ball, but as a reds fan id like to win. and 2 of the balls were absolute blasts


WOW UMPs suck

i'd like to win too. and letting felix stay in the game longer, doesnt help the reds. just sayin

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:27 PM
i'd like to win too. and letting felix stay in the game longer, doesnt help the reds. just sayin


i fully understand that making him throw more pitches will lead to him being out of the game faster. I HATE when Cabrerra swings at the first pitch of the game, i yell every time he does. But you cant argue with stats, votto is hitting over .440 on the first pitch this season. i see no reason to get bent out of shape when votto is putting up numbers like that

FlyerFanatic
06-19-2010, 11:29 PM
i fully understand that making him throw more pitches will lead to him being out of the game faster. I HATE when Cabrerra swings at the first pitch of the game, i yell every time he does. But you cant argue with stats, votto is hitting over .440 on the first pitch this season. i see no reason to get bent out of shape when votto is putting up numbers like that

its the overall mentality that dusty preaches that annoys me. even with votto hitting that, i dont like it. not everyone is joey votto on the team.

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:29 PM
Bruuuucccceeee...nice AB, Ks again. 9 pitches that inning..maybe he'll throw 10 next

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:38 PM
thank you joey votto

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-19-2010, 11:47 PM
well...will we score tonight...it never ceases to amaze me how the Reds go to the west coast every year and simply cant score a run to save their lives...it doesnt matter..it can be oakland,anaheim,seattle,los angeles,san fran or san diego...we simply cant score....boring pop-ups or ground outs straight to people or warning track shots

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:47 PM
nice hustle Drew

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:48 PM
S-T-E-A-L him!!!!!!

TheOnlyRedsFan
06-19-2010, 11:48 PM
Look at those full counts. Thats starting to bug me
>_>

Parliament
06-19-2010, 11:48 PM
thats the beauty of speed

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:49 PM
We have the fastest freaking guy in the NL Dusty!!!! Run him!!!!!

Kiss the Baby00
06-19-2010, 11:49 PM
We have the fastest freaking guy in the NL Dusty!!!! Run him!!!!!

ocab has to actually take a pitch for that to happen

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-19-2010, 11:50 PM
how is it the west coast teams come east and never have any issues but every year we go west and our season ends????

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:53 PM
ocab has to actually take a pitch for that to happen

he took the 1st.

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:53 PM
ball game

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-19-2010, 11:54 PM
thats all it will take

redsfan_12
06-19-2010, 11:55 PM
thats all it will take

atleast it happened earlier in the game... It will give me an extra hour sleep

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-19-2010, 11:55 PM
gotta be really frustrating for some of the same pitchers to keep getting no run support game after game after game

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-19-2010, 11:58 PM
getting ready to go 1.5 games out....losing the 1st two games to a team that was 16 games under 500....pathetic

Jefferson24
06-19-2010, 11:59 PM
they must feel like a shut out is the only way to get a no decision.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 12:00 AM
I'm getting really annoyed at how often Drew Stubbs doesnt run now. I dont know what it is but Patterson, Taveras, and now Stubbs have all gone steal scared. Is it Dusty? I really have to wonder why these guys quit attempting steals.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:01 AM
this team travels west and leaves it's guts in Cincinnati

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:02 AM
a walk?!?!?! :eek:

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:02 AM
just sets up the dp

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:02 AM
getting ready to go 1.5 games out....losing the 1st two games to a team that was 16 games under 500....pathetic

and 2 of 3 to the Royals, and going 4-6 on the homestand.. its all bs..im fed up with this team

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:03 AM
thats a balk!!

Kiss the Baby00
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
nice hustle joey

Kiss the Baby00
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
well done guys!

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
lets make it worth something!

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
a run1?!?!? :eek:

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:05 AM
Bruce looks lost

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:05 AM
It seems to me the race in the NL Central is going to come down to who comes back from injury the fastest.

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:06 AM
Bruce looks lost

He was behind that last pitch. Not even close.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:06 AM
Bruce needs to get his head out of his ass..5 of his last 6 ABs are Ks

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:07 AM
Did Gomes thrown out?

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:07 AM
time to sit him down a few games

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:08 AM
Bruce needs to get his head out of his ass..5 of his last 6 ABs are Ks

All season long Bruce's bat has looked slow. Tremendous power IF he gets a hold of that, but that's the problem (part of it anyway).

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:09 AM
time to sit him down a few games

yessir. Insert Heisey for Bruce tomorrow, and monday.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:10 AM
I'm starting to believe that Bruce is not the answer, might be time to look at other options

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:10 AM
Captain Obvious much in the thread tonight. :D

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
Weird. Looked like the hitter got hit on a checked swing.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
All season long Bruce's bat has looked slow. Tremendous power IF he gets a hold of that, but that's the problem (part of it anyway).

Slow bats hit .275, and OPS over .815?

if he had a quick bat he would probably hit .600 I guess.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
here we go..2 out hit batter, base hit, base hit

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
i couldnt swear to this in court....but i swear other than a few home run shots everytime i see a jay bruce AB he strikes out everytime...does he ever get a hit in a close game...i love him on defense but i would rather see mike leake at bat with runners on

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:12 AM
if your going to hit him do it right!

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:14 AM
Slow bats hit .275, and OPS over .815?

if he had a quick bat he would probably hit .600 I guess.

I said that was part of the problem. His bat is slow. (power isn't just dictated by speed of bat).

He's not a slug out there, and can spray the ball (when he makes contact) so that accounts for the slugging portion. :p:

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:14 AM
LeCure is getting squeezed

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:16 AM
furthermore, an .815 OPS is not that impressive.

COM2010
06-20-2010, 12:16 AM
i like Lecure being aggressive. pitch on inside of plate. sit down batter!

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:17 AM
good job LeCure

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:19 AM
time to break this open

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:20 AM
time to break this open

lmao. Ill settle for a lead

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:22 AM
making this way 2 easy for them, gets frustrating

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:23 AM
steal him!!!!!!!

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:24 AM
stolen base on a PO lol

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:24 AM
about time

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:25 AM
how many warning track shots to center field have we had in these 2 games? seems like a million already....looks like everything to center just dies

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:29 AM
they might try leveling the swings out, HR are just not going to happen in this park. Make every warning track out a base hit and we win game 1 and are up in game 2.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:33 AM
here we go...

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:40 AM
yawn.....

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:41 AM
there we went

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:43 AM
leadoff single

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:44 AM
not a good pitch for 0-2

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:47 AM
dp?

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:47 AM
welp, thats not good

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:48 AM
they are screwed

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:48 AM
seems like lecure has thrown 400 pitches tonight and goes 3 balls on everybody

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:50 AM
set up the dp

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:52 AM
now, thats the ballgame

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:52 AM
when the reds are at home in october...remember this series....

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:52 AM
that may be all it takes

Kiss the Baby00
06-20-2010, 12:52 AM
thats probably all it takes :(

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:53 AM
son of a b***h...

BUTLER REDSFAN
06-20-2010, 12:53 AM
nite all

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:54 AM
we always have tomorrow, oh forget that Harang is pitching

ILoveWilly
06-20-2010, 12:55 AM
Wait where is the apologist crew at to tell us "don't worry guys we're still in first!" Oh wait .. we're not anymore, and soon to be 1.5 half back because of our retarded management that refuses to be proactive and improve the team.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:55 AM
welp, fatty is pitching tomorrow, so thats a loss. Oakland isnt bad, we might eek out 1 there..

ThornWithin81
06-20-2010, 12:55 AM
I hate to say it but...

June swoon, engage.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:56 AM
the Reds have over achieved for quite a while now, they will likely be below 500 at the break

GIDP
06-20-2010, 12:56 AM
Time to find a new starting pitcher. Sam Lecure cant throw strikes and is very hittable after guys see more than 3 pitches off him.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:57 AM
wtf was that Jonny?!?!?!!? that freaking rolled 3 ft up there

GIDP
06-20-2010, 12:57 AM
Anyone find it amazing how the Reds have hit 15 fly balls to the track but Seattle some how is hitting bombs? Seriously if this series was played in Cincy they would have scored 20 runs over the last 2 games.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 12:59 AM
it was nice while it lasted, but it is over, goodbye 2010.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 12:59 AM
:clap: :clap:

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:00 AM
This team gets down by 1 run and they start swinging at everything thinking that the more they swing the more hits they will get.

This isnt slow pitch softball guys. :O

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:00 AM
it was nice while it lasted, but it is over.

ditto.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:00 AM
I think its awesome that we get Lee and Hernandez while the Cards got a guy the other 3 awful pitches.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:01 AM
I cant wait till volquez comes back and gets hurt so Lecure, and Harang just stay in the rotation till 2011.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 01:02 AM
I think its awesome that we get Lee and Hernandez while the Cards got a guy the other 3 awful pitches.

That is what looking at the schedule two weeks ahead of time will get you, Dusty might try it.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:02 AM
We cant trade for a starting pitcher quick enough. as bad as the pen has been I think it fixes itself more than this rotation will.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:04 AM
This series and the KC series is exactly why Reds fans dont show up anymore. Its like going and spending your pay check on a lottery ticket thats fixed prior to the drawing.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 01:05 AM
why trade now? I really don't think they are in this thing. The Reds trade and they end up on the short end. Just wait for next year....again.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:06 AM
why trade now? I really don't think they are in this thing. The Reds trade and they end up on the short end. Just wait for next year....again.

They might stink right now but they are still only 1.5, if the score stays the same.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:06 AM
why trade now? I really don't think they are in this thing. The Reds trade and they end up on the short end. Just wait for next year....again.

what do we have to lose??

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 01:08 AM
what do we have to lose??

what do we have to gain? Starting pitching sucks. Bull Pen sucks. Hitting is starting to fade. Is one player going to fix all that?

AintlifeGrande
06-20-2010, 01:08 AM
Reds should just put a loss column for any west coast game on the schedule every season and avoid the long plane flight.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:11 AM
Stubbs cant hit for $hit

FlyerFanatic
06-20-2010, 01:14 AM
This team gets down by 1 run and they start swinging at everything thinking that the more they swing the more hits they will get.

This isnt slow pitch softball guys. :O

votto is hitting .440 on first pitches though....its ok keep felix in the game. j/k kiss the baby ;)

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:16 AM
votto is hitting .440 on first pitches though....its ok keep felix in the game. j/k kiss the baby ;)

I dont care if votto does it. Hes actually a good hitter, hes the last guy I'm going to complain about.

mlh1981
06-20-2010, 01:19 AM
I'm starting to get nervous that our fast start is quickly becoming ancient history. I'm normally not a "doomsday scenerio" type of guy, but this franchise has done nothing over the past decade to deserve the benefit of the doubt.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 01:23 AM
Finishing is how you measure a team. When was the last time the Reds finished strong? You cant count a good month after your 20 games out of first either.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:27 AM
Id rather just lose coming out of the gate, than to win halfway thru the season...

shocker, 1 pitch, 1 out...

FlyerFanatic
06-20-2010, 01:28 AM
I dont care if votto does it. Hes actually a good hitter, hes the last guy I'm going to complain about.

haha i was referring to mine and kiss the babys convo early in the game thread. but ya, i just hate the hack away mentality dusty has this team doing. if everyone in our lineup hit like votto then sure, swing away

NeilHamburger
06-20-2010, 01:28 AM
Lol. Reds just can't win on the cast. They'll be lucky to win 2 games on this trip.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:28 AM
Suddenly this offense looks like the Pirates.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:29 AM
maybe we will see their bullpen tomorrow...the guy has a 7+ era and is 0-6..but then again..im sure Janish and Cairo will play, so..

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:29 AM
theres the 76th warning track out this series

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:30 AM
lmao...wth are you swinging at Jonny????? It went to the damn backstop!!!

NeilHamburger
06-20-2010, 01:31 AM
Johnny Gomes just swung at a ball that bounced 5 inches in front of the plate. Dinner plans for Mr. Gomes I guess. I guess the Seattle strip clubs mean a lot.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:33 AM
Johnny Gomes just swung at a ball that bounced 5 inches in front of the plate. Dinner plans for Mr. Gomes I guess. I guess the Seattle strip clubs mean a lot.

lmao!

NeilHamburger
06-20-2010, 01:33 AM
And honestly I don't even care if the Reds regroup and win by 10 tomorrow. That tells me nothing. Beat someone who means a damn in the game and then maybe I'll care about this team.

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:33 AM
Gomes is going to go through a huge bad patch at some point in thsi year. He simply isnt a .300 hitter. Id be surprised if he finishes around .270 honestly.

FlyerFanatic
06-20-2010, 01:33 AM
hack away! woo. thanks dusty

GIDP
06-20-2010, 01:34 AM
Reds should be up 3 games on the Cardinals but apparently beating teams that win once every 4th game is too much to ask.

Jefferson24
06-20-2010, 01:37 AM
I said before the season wait till 2011, that is when the pitching will be in place so I'm going to wait till 2011. Might as well take the rest of the year off and secure the #1 draft pick.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:38 AM
embarrassing. Lost atleast 2 of 3 from 2 of the worst teams in the AL, other than the Orioles. Another bad week or so, and im done for this season. Just to painful to watch..

NeilHamburger
06-20-2010, 01:44 AM
What sucks the most is with some okay play against crap teams they lulled me into actually having some hope. That makes the inevitable suck that is the Reds franchise all the worse. Oh well, after the Oakland series they'll be 4 games out and I won't have that problem anymore. I'll just do what I do every year, not go to any games and not watch them with interest. I'll just focus on the upcoming football season.

It just sucks. I was watching the Red Sox game today as they beat LA. And I was thinking how fun it would be to actually follow a team that got better as the year went on, maybe won 90 games or so. And at least made the playoffs, or came damn close. Not because everyone else in their division sucked, but because they were an actual good team. I've never gotten to follow a team like that. And with the Reds I'm begining to wonder whats the point of even being a fan anymore. I really don't know if I'll ever get to follow a team like that in baseball. I wish I would've been born in a different city of something.

redsfan_12
06-20-2010, 01:48 AM
What sucks the most is with some okay play against crap teams they lulled me into actually having some hope. That makes the inevitable suck that is the Reds franchise all the worse. Oh well, after the Oakland series they'll be 4 games out and I won't have that problem anymore. I'll just do what I do every year, not go to any games and not watch them with interest. I'll just focus on the upcoming football season.

you and me both. Seems like every year, im always into football season by the AS break. Looks like that will happen this year too..

FlyerFanatic
06-20-2010, 01:55 AM
yep gotta say, our pitching is way overhyped. i mean we have better pitching top to bottom than we have had in years, but thats not saying much. we really need a top of the rotation guy. i mean my god, the mariners have two!

FlyerFanatic
06-20-2010, 02:06 AM
What sucks the most is with some okay play against crap teams they lulled me into actually having some hope. That makes the inevitable suck that is the Reds franchise all the worse. Oh well, after the Oakland series they'll be 4 games out and I won't have that problem anymore. I'll just do what I do every year, not go to any games and not watch them with interest. I'll just focus on the upcoming football season.

It just sucks. I was watching the Red Sox game today as they beat LA. And I was thinking how fun it would be to actually follow a team that got better as the year went on, maybe won 90 games or so. And at least made the playoffs, or came damn close. Not because everyone else in their division sucked, but because they were an actual good team. I've never gotten to follow a team like that. And with the Reds I'm begining to wonder whats the point of even being a fan anymore. I really don't know if I'll ever get to follow a team like that in baseball. I wish I would've been born in a different city of something.

reds will continue to suck the way baseball is setup. have small market teams faired well? sure, the rays for example. but how long did they suck, with years of #1 picks. they'll fall apart eventually because their players will leave for more money. for instance, crawford will prob be gone to the yanks soon.

a lot of people like to point to how the yanks hadnt won a world series in like 9 yrs until last season. to me that doesnt prove anything. the most important thing is to make the playoffs, from there its a crapshoot. if you look at the teams that make the playoffs every year, the major markets are always there. angels, dodgers, yanks, bo sox. cardinals are prob the smallest market team with recent continual success and they have 20 mill more in payroll than us.

the reds could make noise sometime in the future, but im not counting on it.

look how tied up we are with harang, cordero, and arroyos contracts. our hands are tied, cant add any major FA

oh, twins have had numerous playoff appearances as a small market, but if you look at their payrolls, its gone up each year. they're even in like top 10 highest team payroll now i think.