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Tornon
06-25-2010, 10:26 PM
For the Diamondbacks & Edwin Jackson. Through 7, only walks

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:26 PM
walks will haunt... ;)

CTA513
06-25-2010, 10:27 PM
117 pitches

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:33 PM
7 walks and 125 pitches in the 8th.... but nothing of anything else ;)

Tornon
06-25-2010, 10:34 PM
7 walks, a hit batter, and an error.. if he finishes this it will possibly be the ugliest one ever

HeatherC1212
06-25-2010, 10:38 PM
He's still in there after that many pitches?! They better give him some time off after this and try push his next start back no matter what happens tonight. :eek:

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:38 PM
7 walks, a hit batter, and an error.. if he finishes this it will possibly be the ugliest one ever

It would have to be a finalist, I'm sure.

7 and two thirds now.

132 pitches

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:41 PM
At this point, throw the pitch count out the window....let him try for that one thing.

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:42 PM
At this point, throw the pitch count out the window....let him try for that one thing.

Agreed. I think the adrenaline is enough to carry you through at that point.

Tornon
06-25-2010, 10:43 PM
Crawford thrown out stealing to end the 8th.. 3 more to go

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:50 PM
This is exciting to see if Edwin can do that thing!

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:50 PM
Starting the bottom of the 9th now.

HeatherC1212
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
Wow, that's impressive! Good luck to him but I really do hope they give him a day or two between tonight and his next start after all those pitches. What can I say....I'm a woman and I worry about these things, LOL ;)

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
2 more!

Tornon
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
strikeout.. 2 more to go

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
Filthy!

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
strikeout of BJ Upton! 1 out

HeatherC1212
06-25-2010, 10:51 PM
BTW-ESPN is showing the game right now if anyone wants to watch! :)

Cedric
06-25-2010, 10:52 PM
Anyone else kinda hope he doesn't get this?

Tornon
06-25-2010, 10:52 PM
I heard them say this.. I can't believe Edwin Jackson is only 26, he's been around forever

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:52 PM
Has a single team ever had two of these things against them in the same season?

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:52 PM
If this happens....this isn't the first time it's happened to the Rays this year, correct?

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:52 PM
Anyone else kinda hope he doesn't get this?

No, not here.

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:53 PM
He's still popping 95

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:53 PM
He's still popping 95

96 first pitch of this AB.

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:53 PM
2 down!

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:53 PM
1 to go!

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:53 PM
2 outs....and the announcer just said it...uh oh.

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:54 PM
142

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:54 PM
Willy Aybar hitting .142 PH this season.

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:54 PM
Has a single team ever had two of these things against them in the same season?

Anyone?

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:55 PM
I guess that answers my question. lol.

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:55 PM
Walk No. 8 LOL

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:56 PM
1 pitch away!

Brutus
06-25-2010, 10:56 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLL! Oops, wrong sport.

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:56 PM
NO HITTER!!! The 2nd vs the Rays this year. Wow!

TheNext44
06-25-2010, 10:56 PM
Anyone?

Rays were no hit by Burhle recently too.

HeatherC1212
06-25-2010, 10:57 PM
No hitter!!! Good job buddy! :D

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 10:57 PM
Nolan Ryan-esque!!!

SirFelixCat
06-25-2010, 10:57 PM
I do hope they give him another day or two between starts.

TheNext44
06-25-2010, 10:57 PM
Congrats Edwin! You are now in the history books.

HeatherC1212
06-25-2010, 10:57 PM
IIRC, the Rays have been no hit like three or four times in the last few years. That's not a good record to have as a team, LOL :laugh:

TheNext44
06-25-2010, 10:58 PM
IIRC, the Rays have been no hit like three or four times in the last few years. That's not a good record to have as a team, LOL :laugh:

I'll take that if you include the World Series appearance too.

Cedric
06-25-2010, 10:58 PM
I wonder if people will still argue that no hitters aren't a product of the style of today's game. Carlos Pena alone is a great example of why no hitters are more possible today.

11larkin11
06-25-2010, 11:00 PM
I really hope he stays off the DL for the next year or two, just so us Nolan Ryan-thinkers can look back at this whenever people complain about one games pitch count.

LvJ
06-25-2010, 11:01 PM
Just like the old days.

11larkin11
06-25-2010, 11:01 PM
Jackson is on my fantasy team. And the sad thing? I'm not sure if this helps or hurts my team.

blumj
06-25-2010, 11:01 PM
IIRC, the Rays have been no hit like three or four times in the last few years. That's not a good record to have as a team, LOL :laugh:

It's definitely 3 times in less than a calendar year, Buehrle was last July.

CTA513
06-25-2010, 11:02 PM
So how crappy would it have been if he gave up a game ending 2 run homer after that 2 out walk?

TheNext44
06-25-2010, 11:04 PM
So how crappy would it have been if he gave up a game ending 2 run homer after that 2 out walk?

I believe something like that happened to Mario Soto in the 80's against the Cardinals. George Hendrick hit a homer to either tie the game or win it with two out in the ninth, of a up to then no-hitter.

Tornon
06-25-2010, 11:09 PM
There's just something about that south-eastern United States.. the 4 no-hitters this year have been against the Rays, Rays, Marlins, & Braves. I hope it doesn't start creeping north

OnBaseMachine
06-25-2010, 11:09 PM
Congrats to Jackson on the no-hitter. Eight walks. Wow. The Rays have now been no-hit three times in less than a year. Two of those were perfect games. Pretty surprising considering how good their offense is.

RedsManRick
06-25-2010, 11:11 PM
Great stat from Tim Kurkjin:

Edwin Jackson: 8 BBs in a no-hitter
Cliff Lee: 4 BB's on the season

Matt700wlw
06-25-2010, 11:18 PM
In another note, he no-hit his old team.

TheNext44
06-25-2010, 11:20 PM
Great stat from Tim Kurkjin:

Edwin Jackson: 8 BBs in a no-hitter
Cliff Lee: 4 BB's on the season

That's awesome! Channeling Nate...

High Five!

redsfandan
06-25-2010, 11:20 PM
Didn't someone around here say to expect more of these games? And before the Galarraga game too. I don't remember who it was but I thought someone said that.

westofyou
06-25-2010, 11:40 PM
Didn't someone around here say to expect more of these games? And before the Galarraga game too. I don't remember who it was but I thought someone said that.

Cedric.


and he's right high k rate plus high ball rate and the lowest balls in play rate of all time and here you have it, the percentages of it not happening go down

savafan
06-26-2010, 12:04 AM
I don't think any no hitter is uglier than Andy Hawkins no-hit loss

Tony Cloninger
06-26-2010, 12:21 AM
The Reds were no hit twice in 1971 vs Rick Wise and hit 2 homers himself in that game and Ken Holtzman no hit them as well for the Cubs.

The Rays still are about 4th in RS in AL...which is still about 1st for the NL.

But they do have some ugly averages in that lineup.

fearofpopvol1
06-26-2010, 01:14 AM
The Reds were no hit twice in 1971 vs Rick Wise and hit 2 homers himself in that game and Ken Holtzman no hit them as well for the Cubs.

The Rays still are about 4th in RS in AL...which is still about 1st for the NL.

But they do have some ugly averages in that lineup.

That was also the last time the Reds were no hit as a team too. They currently have the 2nd longest streak of not being no hit behind the Cubs.

Matt700wlw
06-26-2010, 01:16 AM
I guess the Cubs have done something right...

traderumor
06-26-2010, 12:18 PM
I would not be happy if my team was contending and the manager let a guy throw 150 pitches to accomplish a personal goal. Since the Dbacks are also- rans, I guess Hinch won't get too much heat when the sore or tired arm shows up.

blumj
06-26-2010, 01:22 PM
I would not be happy if my team was contending and the manager let a guy throw 150 pitches to accomplish a personal goal. Since the Dbacks are also- rans, I guess Hinch won't get too much heat when the sore or tired arm shows up.

For the D-Backs, I guess they're more risking his trade value, which could be fairly significant, just in a different way. But it's tough to beat up a manager for letting a pitcher finish a no hitter, it's often such a once in a lifetime type of opportunity.

dougdirt
06-26-2010, 01:25 PM
For the D-Backs, I guess they're more risking his trade value, which could be fairly significant, just in a different way. But it's tough to beat up a manager for letting a pitcher finish a no hitter, it's often such a once in a lifetime type of opportunity.

I don't think so. Plenty of guys have been pulled in no hitters who couldn't throw strikes or were at very high pitch counts.

OnBaseMachine
06-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Jim Maloney still holds the record with 10 walks in a no-hitter. He walked 10 and struckout 12 in 10 innings in that game. Any idea on how many pitches he threw? I'm guessing probably 180+?

Tony Cloninger
06-26-2010, 01:32 PM
Clay Kirby was pulled with a no hitter in San Diego by Preston Gomez...who was booed loudly for it.

Kirby ...who had a propensity to have high walk and strikeout totals....just ran up crazy pitch counts and Gomez had to pull him beacuse he was walking people and pitching an ugly no-no.

traderumor
06-26-2010, 04:45 PM
This is a good example where a manager needs to establish certain personal "thou shalt nots" so he does not get caught up in the moment in the middle of a game (Joe Morgan wouldn't be a by word in Boston, for example). Some pitch count max should certainly be one of them.

redsfandan
06-26-2010, 04:59 PM
Jackson is getting 2 extra days of rest so his next start will be next Friday.

TheNext44
06-26-2010, 05:03 PM
Clay Kirby was pulled with a no hitter in San Diego by Preston Gomez...who was booed loudly for it.

Kirby ...who had a propensity to have high walk and strikeout totals....just ran up crazy pitch counts and Gomez had to pull him beacuse he was walking people and pitching an ugly no-no.

The game was tied 0-0 in the 9th and Kirby was pulled for a pinch hitter who had a chance to win the game with runners in scoring position. The Padres ended up losing, as the next Padre pitcher gave a run in the next inning.

TheNext44
06-26-2010, 05:05 PM
I think one game at a absurdly high pitch count is the least of Jackson's worries concnering his future success.

Spitball
06-26-2010, 05:39 PM
Jim Maloney still holds the record with 10 walks in a no-hitter. He walked 10 and struckout 12 in 10 innings in that game. Any idea on how many pitches he threw? I'm guessing probably 180+?

I know he walked 10 in one extra inning no-hitter and struck out 18 in another. I believe he threw 183 pitches in the 18 strikeout game (officially a two-hitter when he gave up a hit after a homer to Johnny Lewis in the 11th) against the Mets.

What kind of career numbers could he have put up with a pitch limit protecting him?

Tony Cloninger
06-26-2010, 08:04 PM
Thanks for the clarification. Tough move to make but the Padres were lousy and Gomez was trying to win games. I remembered the game but not all the details.
I just recall Vin Scully talking about it on the radio and it just stuck with me beacuse of the rarity of it.