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Degenerate39
06-29-2010, 03:48 PM
Phillips
Cabrera
Votto
Gomes
Bruce
Cairo (3B)
Heisey (CF)
Hernandez
Leake

per the Sun Deck

Degenerate39
06-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Personally I would have liked to seen Janish in at shortstop today and Heisey in Left Field. Leake could use the best defense possible. Give Rolen a day off against the Mets.

nate
06-29-2010, 04:16 PM
You voted for Atwood too!

:cool:

Degenerate39
06-29-2010, 04:20 PM
You voted for Atwood too!

:cool:

My campaign was a success

Tom Servo
06-29-2010, 04:35 PM
Cairo is higher up in the order then Heisey and Hernandez...why?

LincolnparkRed
06-29-2010, 04:39 PM
He is not 2nd or 3rd so in my book it is a win already

Redsfan320
06-29-2010, 04:51 PM
Am probably going tonight (meaning no GT participation) and really like seeing Rolen play. Is there a reason he's resting tonight instead of the day game tomorrow, which is when he usually rests, or is it just Dusty's... un-intelligence. [/RANT]

Sorry,

320

Raisor
06-29-2010, 04:56 PM
, or is it just Dusty's... un-intelligence. [/RANT]



not cool, dude.

Redsfan320
06-29-2010, 05:08 PM
^^^

Don't get me wrong, man, Dusty's done some GREAT things for this club this season, I'm just irritated SR's not in the line-up tonight, that's all.

320

HeatherC1212
06-29-2010, 05:38 PM
I think Dusty would rather rest Rolen against Blanton tonight than rest him against a tough pitcher like Halladay tomorrow. Maybe he feels like the guys have a better shot at winning tonight without Rolen than they do tomorrow night? I can't argue with that logic if that's where he's coming from because tomorrow's game could be brutal. I think we'll need everyone playing tomorrow if we want any chance to win that game. :eek:

medford
06-29-2010, 05:38 PM
Are they playing a bunch of day games in Chicago? perhaps a night off, followed by a string of day games? Perhaps Cairo hits Blanton well? Perhaps Rolen has hit Holliday well (I don't know if they would have matched up though). Perhaps Dusty made a gentleman's agreement w/ Philly: "you're two men down, we'll rest 2 starters"???? At least Cairo has been playing well. Hopefully Rolen is alright, just a normal day off.

oneupper
06-29-2010, 05:44 PM
I think Dusty would rather rest Rolen against Blanton tonight than rest him against a tough pitcher like Halladay tomorrow. Maybe he feels like the guys have a better shot at winning tonight without Rolen than they do tomorrow night? I can't argue with that logic if that's where he's coming from because tomorrow's game could be brutal. I think we'll need everyone playing tomorrow if we want any chance to win that game. :eek:

Corky will probably be in tomorrow, since it is a day game. Rolen rests today, plays tomorrow.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 05:45 PM
Okay, I like that Dusty moved Brandon to the leadoff slot. He seems to be the best fit the way our club is currently configured. But when, oh when, is he going to give Cabrera some much needed time on the freaking bench?

21 for his last 117 (.179 ba)
9 doubles, 0 HR's, 0 triples, 6 walks, 14 strikeouts

Is there anybody here who doesn't think Paul Janish can put up AT LEAST those numbers? So even if Paul struggled to the tune of a .179 ba, he'd STILL be an improvement due to his glove work. Time to make the switch Dusty. Past time.





Hey, it worked yesterday. :O)

Kc61
06-29-2010, 05:49 PM
Hey, it worked yesterday. :O)

Cabrera had three hits last night and made some outstanding plays. Don't see why Dusty would sit him down tonight.

Ignore this post, I now get the idea.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 05:51 PM
Cabrera had three hits last night and made some outstanding plays. Don't see why Dusty would sit him down tonight.

I copy and pasted that post from yesterday's game thread. It seems my rant produced solid results from OCab. It's worth a shot. *grin*

kbrake
06-29-2010, 05:56 PM
Why not play Rolen tonight and Stubbs and just accept tomorrow for what it is and rest everyone.

Cairo 2B
Leake SS
Owings RF
Nix LF
Janish 3B
Heisey CF
Miller C
Herrera 1B

That would be my 12:35 special for tomorrow. It is Halladay vs Harang I highly doubt it matters.

pedro
06-29-2010, 06:09 PM
I copy and pasted that post from yesterday's game thread. It seems my rant produced solid results from OCab. It's worth a shot. *grin*

I thought that looked familiar. :)

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 06:13 PM
Why not play Rolen tonight and Stubbs and just accept tomorrow for what it is and rest everyone.

Cairo 2B
Leake SS
Owings RF
Baker LF
Janish 3B
Heisey CF
Miller C
Herrera 1B

That would be my 12:35 special for tomorrow. It is Halladay vs Harang I highly doubt it matters.

Come on. If you're gonna do that at least let Dusty do the whole player/manager bit and put him in LF instead of Nix. :O)

kbrake
06-29-2010, 06:52 PM
Come on. If you're gonna do that at least let Dusty do the whole player/manager bit and put him in LF instead of Nix. :O)

I'd take the day off and go to the ballpark for that. Great idea.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 06:56 PM
Put those sweatbands and uniform to work. He did play with Hank Aaron after all. :O)

kbrake
06-29-2010, 07:41 PM
Bet he would come to bat to Drake

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:10 PM
Victorino flies out to center.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 08:11 PM
Lets get it on!!!

Reds - Do you want some respect? Earn it right here, right now! LETS GO!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:12 PM
Dobbs fouls out to 3rd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:13 PM
Rollins flies out to center. 12 pitch inning. 0-0 mid 1st.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:13 PM
1-2-3 start for Mike. Not too shabby.

nemesis
06-29-2010, 08:14 PM
So with Utley out does that make Phillips a lock for the All Star game?

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:16 PM
Phillips triples to right on a ball that goes past Werth

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 08:16 PM
Run Brandon, Run!!

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:17 PM
So with Utley out does that make Phillips a lock for the All Star game?

There aren't any Reds who are "locks" unfortunately. While Votto's numbers are ridiculous, they're still VERY similar to Pujols & Gonzales. Rolen's numbers are VERY good too. But eerily similar to David Wrights'. I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T be there, but there are just enough loopholes for several Reds players to get ignored. With all the great firstbasemen in the NL, somebody's going to get left out. I'm thinking it'll be both Gonzales & Votto. And I'll be *&#@%!

And with that...triple for Brandon.

TheBurn
06-29-2010, 08:17 PM
Gotta get him in!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:17 PM
Cabrera grounds out to 2nd. 1-0 Reds.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 08:19 PM
Just got in on him.... That was close!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:19 PM
Votto flies out to the track in right center. 2 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:20 PM
Almost.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:21 PM
Gomes! 2 bagger!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:21 PM
Gomes doubles to left center.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 08:21 PM
Reds are getting good wood on the ball...

Lets get on them early.... Come'on Jay!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:23 PM
Bruce walks. 1st and 2nd.

nemesis
06-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Volquez perfect first inning. 15 Pitches, 9 Strikes. 1 K.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Cairo hit by the pitch. Bases loaded.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:24 PM
Bases jacked with 2 down for Hi-C

nemesis
06-29-2010, 08:25 PM
LOL at Cairo's face...

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:26 PM
Heisey grounds into a 6-4 FC. 1-0 Reds after 1.

nate
06-29-2010, 08:27 PM
Chat is open!

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:28 PM
Chat is open!

That's it? It's just "open"? I feel cheated.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:30 PM
Howard walks

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:30 PM
Howard walks

3 of them JUUUUUUST missed.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:32 PM
Werth walks. This is an ugly start to this inning.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 08:33 PM
Both runners advance on a deep fly ball, sigh.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:33 PM
Ibanez flies out to center. Howard goes to 3rd the throw gets away from Cabrera and Werth goes to 2nd.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 08:33 PM
E6 on Cabrera allowing Werth to advance. Now a home run, 3-1 Philly.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:33 PM
Error on Cabrera on that play.

Schneider homers to right. 3-1 Phillies

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Crap. Schneider dinger. 3-1 phills

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:34 PM
Ground out to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:35 PM
Blanton strikes out swinging. 3-1 Phillies mid 2nd.

nate
06-29-2010, 08:35 PM
That's it? It's just "open"? I feel cheated.

The wonders of chat never cheat.

_Sir_Charles_
06-29-2010, 08:36 PM
The wonders of chat never cheat.

Okay, that's better. :O)

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:38 PM
Hernandez flies out to center.

nemesis
06-29-2010, 08:39 PM
Volquez strikes out the side in the second on 16 pitches.

2 Inn 0 H 0 R 0 BB 4 K's (all swinging) 32 Pitches

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:39 PM
Leake singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:40 PM
Phillips grounds out to Blanton. Runner goes to 2nd. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:42 PM
Cabrera grounds out to 3rd. 3-1 Phillies after 2.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:46 PM
Victorino strikes out swinging.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:48 PM
Dobbs flies out to right. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:49 PM
Rollins singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:50 PM
Howard grounds into a 4-6 FC. 3-1 Phillies mid 3rd.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:53 PM
Votto singles to right. Has now been on base in 37 straight games.

VR
06-29-2010, 08:54 PM
Hi

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:54 PM
Gomes fouls out to the catcher

VR
06-29-2010, 08:55 PM
^^^^^

just trying to break up reds fanatic's consecutive post streak :)

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:56 PM
Bruce flies out to right. 2 outs.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 08:58 PM
Cairo strikes out swinging. 3-1 Phillies after 3.

nemesis
06-29-2010, 08:58 PM
Volquez perfect thru 3.

3 INN 0 H 0 R 0 BB 5 K's 4 GO/ 0 FO 50 Pitches

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:01 PM
Werth singles to right.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:03 PM
Ibanez lines out to center. 1 out.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:05 PM
Schneider lines a single to right. 1st and 2nd.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:05 PM
This was gonna happen eventually.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:05 PM
Crap. Valdez homers to left. 6-1 Phillies.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:06 PM
This game is spiraling out of control fast.

kbrake
06-29-2010, 09:07 PM
I still don't feel like this game is over. Kind of a nice thing about the way this team has played so far.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:08 PM
Blanton strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

CTA513
06-29-2010, 09:08 PM
Harang wants everyone to know that other guys on the staff are catching up to him in home runs allowed.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:08 PM
Victorino singles to center.

Tom Servo
06-29-2010, 09:10 PM
Jeez I knew Leake would eventually take some lumps, but Schneider and Valez? Ouch.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:11 PM
Dobbs pops out to short. 6-1 Phillies mid 4th

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:15 PM
Heisey flies out to left.
Hernandez grounds out to 1st.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:16 PM
Leake grounds out to 2nd. 6-1 Phillies after 4.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:18 PM
Rollins grounds out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:20 PM
Howard flies out to left.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 09:21 PM
Werth strikes out looking. 6-1 Phillies mid 5th.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:22 PM
If they are going to start a comeback they better start it here. Top of the order up this inning.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:28 PM
So much for that, 1-2-3.

VR
06-29-2010, 09:31 PM
Who was Leake's catcher the 1st 8-10 starts?

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:40 PM
Hernandez two run double cuts the lead to 6-3.

Degenerate39
06-29-2010, 09:40 PM
Who was Leake's catcher the 1st 8-10 starts?

I thought it was Hanigan

dsmith421
06-29-2010, 09:41 PM
I don't get this at all.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Why would you hit Leake here? Why? Why?

dsmith421
06-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Unbelievably stupid.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:42 PM
Stuff like this is why I have a hard time supporting Dusty. That is just inexcusable.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:44 PM
And now he brings DRH in to pitch? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:44 PM
He wanted to save Rolen for later in the game.

Captain Hook
06-29-2010, 09:45 PM
He wanted to save Rolen for later in the game.

PH Rolen then leave him in for later in the game.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:46 PM
I bet Lance Nix feels like crap. What type of message does that send to him?

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:46 PM
I'm not sure whether to rail on Dusty for the stupid decision (what are you saving him for Dusty? How many PH chances do you think you get with a runner on 2B? Runs in the 6th count just as much as ones in the 8th) or the side effect of the 7 man bullpen. If Dusty has another guy on the bench, does he hit Rolen there?

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:47 PM
I bet Lance Nix feels like crap. What type of message does that send to him?

No kidding. He got totally Janished. (i.e. A bench player who isn't used in the exact situation he's on the team for)

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:47 PM
PH Rolen then leave him in for later in the game.
So you give him 6 innings off and then have him play the last 3? Not much of an off day.

Not to mention the fact Leake is hitting almost .400.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:48 PM
It's painful to watch DRH pitch.

oneupper
06-29-2010, 09:48 PM
What's the bench today?
Stubbs, Rolen, Janish and Nix?
Any one of them, I guess.

Oh..and Corky.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:49 PM
He walks Castro on 4 pitches.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:49 PM
Danny Ray can only be effective if he's locating. Walks and mistakes are death for him. This could get ugly. 9-3 anybody?

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 09:49 PM
Now to compound the problem he's leaving DRH in after two walks. You just got back into the game, you made one mistake, don't keep lying to yourself and blow it up even more.

pedro
06-29-2010, 09:50 PM
I bet Lance Nix feels like crap. What type of message does that send to him?

That he better start hitting.

I know the message it sends to me. The Reds are getting ready to dump Nix. RHP on mound and Nix wasn't even the 3rd option.

Herrera ain't long for this team either. He's toast when Chapman arrives. They aren't carrying 4 LH relief pitchers.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:50 PM
That he better start hitting.

I know the message it sends to me. The Reds are getting ready to dump Nix. RHP on mound and Nix wasn't even the 3rd option.

Herrera ain't long for this team either. He's toast when Chapman arrives. They aren't carrying 4 LH relief pitchers.
Herrera is toast when Wood comes up.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:50 PM
Price and Hernandez look like they're giving Herrera the "Would you like to go back to Louisville?" speech.

oneupper
06-29-2010, 09:50 PM
He walks Castro on 4 pitches.

Automatic Demotion.

Captain Hook
06-29-2010, 09:51 PM
So you give him 6 innings off and then have him play the last 3? Not much of an off day.

Not to mention the fact Leake is hitting almost .400.

Games that the Reds are trailing in the late innings that Rolen has off should be games where Rolen plays the last 2 or 3 imo.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:51 PM
Rollins just missed that thing.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:52 PM
Pity cheer on strike 1.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:53 PM
Disaster averted.

pedro
06-29-2010, 09:54 PM
Herrera is toast when Wood comes up.

Maybe.

Btw, Nix probably was the third option but still not good for me.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:54 PM
Maybe.

Btw, Nix probably was the third option but still not good for me.
Nix is usless other than randomly running into a homer once in awhile.

I'd honestly rather have Matthews.

nate
06-29-2010, 09:55 PM
I think the CUFTNU helped Dr. H there.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:55 PM
And CB Bucknor gives Herrera a makeup call for Strike 1 vs. Rollins. I don't think there's a less consistent ump behind the plate in baseball.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:56 PM
Nix is usless other than randomly running into a homer once in awhile.

I'd honestly rather have Matthews.

Curses on you for even suggesting the idea... I'd rather Luis Terrero!

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:56 PM
Oh Nix has cool AB songs too.

/Flashback to last nights game thread.

Scrap Irony
06-29-2010, 09:57 PM
Poor call by Bucknor. He's just horrid behind the plate. I'm pretty sure a high school umpire would be just as serviceable.

The worst call is Baker's decision to have Leake bat then bring in someone else to pitch. I still cannot fathom that decision.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:57 PM
Man, Phillips has been awesome ever since he started making good contact instead of trying to crush everything. Moving out of cleanup might be one of the best things that could have possibly happened to him.

reds44
06-29-2010, 09:58 PM
Wow. OC is slower than Sean Casey.

oneupper
06-29-2010, 09:58 PM
I was thinking "anything but a DP"...darn.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 09:59 PM
Wow. OC is slower than Sean Casey.

Yup. But he's a SS so he needs to hit 1 or 2. Seriously, Dusty needs to give Cabrera some time off. He's useless (or worse) like this.

nate
06-29-2010, 09:59 PM
Man, Phillips has been awesome ever since he started making good contact instead of trying to crush everything. Moving out of cleanup might be one of the best things that could have possibly happened to him.

So, Rick, you're saying him getting more hits has led to him hitting better?

:cool:

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:10 PM
Gomes grounds out on ball 4.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:10 PM
And then Jay pops out on the first pitch.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:12 PM
So, Rick, you're saying him getting more hits has led to him hitting better?

:cool:

I'm not sure I'd go THAT far.

TRF
06-29-2010, 10:13 PM
I'd like Heisey to hit a HR now.

that is all.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 10:15 PM
Mercy

nate
06-29-2010, 10:16 PM
I'd like Heisey to hit a HR now.

that is all.

Yes, me too.

But Laynce is pinch-outting for him.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:16 PM
I don't like Nix.

flyer85
06-29-2010, 10:16 PM
been a dusty special tonight

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 10:17 PM
Bad day for Dusty, a real bad day.

CTA513
06-29-2010, 10:17 PM
Nix can bat now but not in the same situation about 2 innings ago?

TRF
06-29-2010, 10:17 PM
wait. Laynce Nix pinch hit for Heisey?

i'm going to go eat ice cream now.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Nix can bat now but not in the same situation about 2 innings ago?
You'd rather have Nix up than Leake? I wouldn't.

Now PHing Nix for Heisey was extra dumb.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:18 PM
Jordan Smith pitching and Nix now playing center

oneupper
06-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Jordan Smith pitching and Nix now playing center

No comprendo a Dusty.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:20 PM
How did Valdez got a hit on that ball?

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:21 PM
Valdez goes to 2nd on a broken bat ground out to 1st.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:23 PM
Victorino walks.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:25 PM
Castro strikes out swinging

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:27 PM
I like Jordan Smith.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:28 PM
Nice pitch. Rollins strikes out swinging. 6-3 Phillies mid 9th.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:30 PM
Lidge in to pitch

kbrake
06-29-2010, 10:31 PM
Nothing screams baseball town like the wave in the 9th inning while you're down and hitting.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:32 PM
Hernandez grounds out to short.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 10:32 PM
Nothing screams baseball town like the wave in the 9th inning while you're down and hitting.

Was thinking the exact same thing.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:33 PM
Stubbs pinch hitting

pedro
06-29-2010, 10:33 PM
They only explanation I can fathom is that Dusty figured they'd pull Blanton if he PH for Leake and he thought their best chance at that point was against Blanton. Other than that I got nothing.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:34 PM
Stubbs strikes out swinging.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:34 PM
Stubbs vs. a Lidge Slider = No Chance

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:36 PM
Phillips walks

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:39 PM
Cabrera singles to left. 1st and 3rd. Votto up.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
VOTTO!!!!!!! Tie game

Captain Hook
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
:jump:

WMR
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
sweet baby jesus

oneupper
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
Un FREAKIN believable.

nate
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
Wow!

fearofpopvol1
06-29-2010, 10:41 PM
Holy smokes. THAT WAS INCREDIBLE, MR. VOTTO.

HotCorner
06-29-2010, 10:42 PM
I love Joey Votto! Sorry Heather. :)

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:42 PM
Gomes grounds out to the catcher. 6-6! Headed to the 10th.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 10:42 PM
HOLY BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMB!!!!!!!!! :jump: VOOOOOOTTTOOOOOOOO!

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:42 PM
WHAT A BEAST.

Stud.

fearofpopvol1
06-29-2010, 10:43 PM
I know a lot of people here hate the word "clutch," but that was as clutch as you can get!!

SirFelixCat
06-29-2010, 10:43 PM
You're not gonna believe this, but...

When Brandon was up, SFC said, "All we need is a walk, a hit and a blast."

And look what happened!!

-Mrs. SFC

PS: That was AWESOME!!!

HotCorner
06-29-2010, 10:44 PM
I just woke my wife up with my reaction. :D

klw
06-29-2010, 10:44 PM
Wahoo time for a happy dance
YouTube - Jean Claude Van Dam Breakin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POXoJyNcLiI&feature=related)

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:45 PM
Reds need a real LFer.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:45 PM
Rhodes in for the 10th

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:46 PM
With that HR, JoVo leads the NL in WAR, OPS and EqA. Even sabermetricians gotta love Joey for MVP!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:46 PM
Crap. Howard doubles over Nix.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 10:46 PM
Reds need a real LFer.

You can say that again....

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:47 PM
Reds need a real LFer.

Again.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:49 PM
That pitch was close. Werth walks

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 10:49 PM
Danger Zone.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 10:49 PM
That pitch was close. Werth walks

Reeal Close.... Thought it was a strike.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:51 PM
Manuel gets tossed.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 10:51 PM
That pitch was clearly a strike, no clue what the argument is.

kbrake
06-29-2010, 10:51 PM
Werth walks on a strike and now the Phillies get upset about a strike being called.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:51 PM
That pitch was clearly a strike, no clue what the argument is.

Probably confused since he hasn't been calling that pitch most of the night -- but it was in the zone.

HeatherC1212
06-29-2010, 10:52 PM
WOW, I just woke up my entire house screaming after Joey hit that HR, LOL :jump:

And Joey better be on the All Star team after this week no matter what happens tomorrow. THAT type of clutch hitting is what Charlie Manuel needs on the NL team. Let's get this one Sir Arthur!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:52 PM
7-6 Phillies. Stubbs bobbled the ball on the track and just could not hold on to it. Scoreless streak is over.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:52 PM
Stubbs is epically overrated as defender.

He approaches the wall like a big sissy.

HeatherC1212
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
Crap, I spoke too soon. :(

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
OUCH!!!! Stubbs had that. He looks ugly at the wall. What's he leaping for?

WMR
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
Man

dsmith421
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
That's about the third time in a week Stubbs has dropped a catchable ball on the warning track. That said, 90% of CFs aren't there to catch it in the first place.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
Rhodes throwing a ball in the zone 0-2 wasn't exactly a great idea either.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
Now 8-6 as Valdez singles in a run.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
That's about the third time in a week Stubbs has dropped a catchable ball on the warning track. That said, 90% of CFs aren't there to catch it in the first place.
He's overrated.

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
The walls come crumblin down... The walls....

oneupper
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
Still no outs. Ugh.

Blitz Dorsey
06-29-2010, 10:54 PM
Drew Stubbs is the worst so-called "great" defender that I have ever seen. He is a really fast CF who is good not great with the glove.

kbrake
06-29-2010, 10:55 PM
Stubbs gets to a ton of baseballs that most do not. Rhodes was bound to have a night like this. It happens but still a tough game after the Votto shot.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:55 PM
Drew Stubbs is the worst so-called "great" defender that I have ever seen. He is a really fast CF who is good not great with the glove.
:thumbup:

RedsMan3203
06-29-2010, 10:56 PM
Drew Stubbs is the worst so-called "great" defender that I have ever seen. He is a really fast CF who is good not great with the glove.

His problem is the catching balls on/near the wall.....

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:56 PM
His problem is the catching balls on/near the wall.....
And mental lapses.

And pretty much everything other than being fast.

Blitz Dorsey
06-29-2010, 10:56 PM
Stubbs gets to a ton of baseballs that most do not. Rhodes was bound to have a night like this. It happens but still a tough game after the Votto shot.

True, and that's why I say he's "good" defensively. But when people ask questions like "Is he the best defensive CF in MLB" I have to laugh. Franklin Gutierrez is much better. (And I'm sure there are others, but that is one I know for sure.)

HeatherC1212
06-29-2010, 10:57 PM
I lam so amused how up and down this board gets during games. First someone's great, then he sucks, then he's great again, then he sucks, then he should be fired, then he should be given a huge extention. Welcome to baseball where NO ONE is perfect all the time. Bad things happened when I popped into this thread so I'm out of here now.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:58 PM
What hurt Stubbs on that play is right at the end he left his feet and it threw the timing off. If he just stays on his feet he might have held on.

Blitz Dorsey
06-29-2010, 10:58 PM
I lam so amused how up and down this board gets during games. First someone's great, then he sucks, then he's great again, then he sucks, then he should be fired, then he should be given a huge extention. Welcome to baseball where NO ONE is perfect all the time. Bad things happened when I popped into this thread so I'm out of here now.

I know you were making a general statement and not directed at anyone in particular, but I will say I'm pretty consistent on Stubbs. He gets free pass after free pass from Dusty IMO. Heisey would be my starting CF no questions asked. You know, based on little things like "performance in games."

oneupper
06-29-2010, 10:58 PM
...wheels falling off.

reds44
06-29-2010, 10:59 PM
I'm not upset at Rhodes, this was going to happen.

But Stubbs is overrated as defender. He's not horrible, but he's not great either. Especially when you consider his ability (or lack there of) as a hitter.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 10:59 PM
9-6 Phillies as Hernandez can't hold on to the throw on the squeeze play.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:00 PM
Now they had a DP but the throw from Hernandez to Cabrera is in the dirt and the runner is safe at 2nd.

RedsManRick
06-29-2010, 11:01 PM
Now they had a DP but the throw from Hernandez to Cabrera is in the dirt and the runner is safe at 2nd.

Cabrera could have had him easily if he had come off the bag to field the throw and just kept it in front of him.

pedro
06-29-2010, 11:04 PM
I doubt Heisey would have been close to that ball. It's disappointing that Stubbs didn't hang on but there's not but a few CF's in the majors that even get there.

oneupper
06-29-2010, 11:04 PM
Three runs? Piece of cake. Get 'em boys!

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:05 PM
Bruce, Cairo and Nix due up.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:07 PM
J.C. Romero in to pitch

Blitz Dorsey
06-29-2010, 11:07 PM
I doubt Heisey would have been close to that ball. It's disappointing that Stubbs didn't hang on but there's not but a few CF's in the majors that even get there.

Oh, he would have at least been close to it. And I bet he would have caught it and wouldn't have been afraid of hitting a padded wall that he wasn't even that close to. Oh well, Stubbs is a former first-round pick and Heisey was a late-rounder. It really is that simple for me. One guy is clearly better than the other overall.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:09 PM
Bruce pops out to 2nd.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:10 PM
Cairo grounds out to short.

redsfaninbsg
06-29-2010, 11:11 PM
Tough game to lose with Halladay pitching tomorrow.

Reds Fanatic
06-29-2010, 11:12 PM
Nix strikes out swinging. Reds lose 9-6 and will probably drop to 2nd as the Cards are beating up the Dbacks

oneupper
06-29-2010, 11:12 PM
Tough game to lose with Halladay pitching tomorrow.

And the Cards cruising 6-0

Hoosier Red
06-29-2010, 11:15 PM
The whole "would have had, wouldn't have had it" is nonsense. No one knows how Heisey would have been stationed, if by having to play in more shallow he would not have been able to get to that ball, or any thing of the sort.
As I said, it's as fruitless as watching a Stubbs AB and saying Heisey would have gotten a hit.

Stubbs has made a number of fantastic plays. As a CF, he has an excellent arm, and gets pretty good breaks on every ball.

He has two main problems, 1) Balls directly over his head, and 2) Balls near the wall. I'm pretty sure these can be fixed as he continues to grow both offensively and defensively.

pedro
06-29-2010, 11:17 PM
One thing is for sure, nothing appeals more to a RZ poster than a guy sitting on the bench.

alloverjr
06-29-2010, 11:29 PM
One thing is for sure, nothing appeals more to a RZ poster than a guy sitting on the bench.

Complete hogwash. I'd go outside the organization for a plus CF who is not as offensively challenged.

pedro
06-29-2010, 11:32 PM
Complete hogwash. I'd go outside the organization for a plus CF who is not as offensively challenged.

That's a lot easier said than done.

reds44
06-29-2010, 11:42 PM
That's a lot easier said than done.
DeJesus?

Problem is the Reds need a real LFer too.

pedro
06-30-2010, 12:35 AM
DeJesus?

Problem is the Reds need a real LFer too.

Personally I'd stick with Stubbs / Heisey and save my bullets to figure out what to do about SS and pitching for next season.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 12:51 AM
One thing is for sure, nothing appeals more to a RZ poster than a guy sitting on the bench.

Not really, unless said "bench player" is the reigning minor league player of the year in the organization and has clearly played better than said "starting player" all season.

I'm definitely not one of these "the backup quarterback is the most-popular guy in town" guys. However, if you want to debate the merits of Stubbs v Heisey, I'll be here all week.

pedro
06-30-2010, 01:55 AM
Not really, unless said "bench player" is the reigning minor league player of the year in the organization and has clearly played better than said "starting player" all season.

I'm definitely not one of these "the backup quarterback is the most-popular guy in town" guys. However, if you want to debate the merits of Stubbs v Heisey, I'll be here all week.

Not really. I like Heisey but I wouldn't bench Stubbs for him. The Reds need to continue to develop Stubbs IMO as I believe that the Reds may well go into next year with an OF of Heisey/Stubbs/Bruce and Heisey seems to be adapting to playing PT pretty well. I would however give Heisey more time in LF against RHP and spot him in CF against tough RHP.

flyer85
06-30-2010, 09:57 AM
They only explanation I can fathom is that Dusty figured they'd pull Blanton if he PH for Leake Welsh pointed out at the time that the Phillies had no one up in the pen,

Degenerate39
06-30-2010, 11:54 AM
I'm 0 - 2 on making game threads. I'm retiring for the season.

Redsfan320
07-01-2010, 11:49 PM
BTW, Phils manager Charlie Manuel was suspended 1 game, and fined an undisclosed amount, for his "aggressive arguing" and (what it's really for) "inappropriate contact" with home plate ump CB Bucknor in the 10th inning of this game.

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