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mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Stubbs down on K's. Started with another bad call strike and whiffed at the next two ploys. He needs a day off. For my sake.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
For the love of God don't blow it Coco.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
For the love of God don't blow it Coco.

Yeah I've not gotten overly worked up about Coco this year but if he doesn't nail this down I'm going to cry.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
For the love of God don't blow it Coco.

A easy 1-2-3 inning would be great.

mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Manuel must HATE his bullpen.

Plus Plus
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Chris "Ecto Cooler" Hi-C PH for Rhodes.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Nice easy stroke for Hernandez. Why can't Stubbs to that?

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Is anybody going to give Dusty credit for having the Reds swining early in counts today?

13 hits.

Brutus
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Is anybody going to give Dusty credit for having the Reds swining early in counts today?

13 hits.

It's kind of a catch-22. They've gotten some hits because of it, but have also wasted some opportunities and not really made Halladay work much.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
It's kind of a catch-22. They've gotten some hits because of it, but have also wasted some opportunities and not really made Halladay work much.
They've got 4 runs at 13 hits off him in 7 1/3. I'll take that against Halladay everytime.

mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Is anybody going to give Dusty credit for having the Reds swining early in counts today?

13 hits.

I will, I thought they adjusted a little late when he was not throwing 1st pitch strikes in the 6th or so, but it's been a great day of hitting.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Halladay doesn't seem to be getting that extra 18-inches on the outside when facing righties. Interesting.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
May I say this...

Eat it Phillies announcers...we got to your golden boy Halladay.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
That last one actually may have been a strike,

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Heisey K's looking on a borderline pitch.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
I thought that one was actually a strike.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
May I say this...

Eat it Phillies announcers...we got to your golden boy Halladay.

:beerme:

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Wow, I'm a little stunned at how this game has gone but I love it. I'll love it even more if it ends well! :D

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
I'm really ready for the 9th, I pulled up Gamecast and immediately cursed because the pitcher fell behind again.
Than I realized it's still the Reds at bat.
:D

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Cordero is a hot dog on the mound and has a lot of gestures?

WHAT?

Homer Bailey
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Heisey K's.... but let the Stubbs bashing continue!

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
27,245. Not bad for an afternoon delight.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Heisey K's.... but let the Stubbs bashing continue!
At least Heisey made him work ;)

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
27,425 at today's game. Good crowd for a midday game.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Philly announcer says Coco is "very demonstrative and makes a ton of gestures on the mound".

Really? I don't see much other than the point to the sky after a save.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Did Phillips really swing at a ball in the dirt in the opposite batter's box?

Brutus
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
They've got 4 runs at 13 hits off him in 7 1/3. I'll take that against Halladay everytime.

I will too. However, we're in the 8th inning and just a few batters ago, the Reds had just two runs in the 8th. That doesn't win you many ballgames.

The hits are nice, but if not for one swing of the bat from Bruce, the swing early approach wasn't yielding desired results in the form of the only thing that matters - runs.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Phillips 1-3.

It's time, it's time, it's ACTION CORDERO TIME!

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Did Phillips really swing at a ball in the dirt in the opposite batter's box?
It was a check swing, but yeah he did lol

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
I will too. However, we're in the 8th inning and just a few batters ago, the Reds had just two runs in the 8th. That doesn't win you many ballgames.

The hits are nice, but if not for one swing of the bat from Bruce, the swing early approach wasn't yielding desired results in the form of the only thing that matters - runs.

Eh, if not for one swing from Dane S....

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Philly announcer says Coco is "very demonstrative and makes a ton of gestures on the mound".

Really? I don't see much other than the point to the sky after a save.
Exactly what I was thinking.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:51 PM
This will be 1-2-3 as usual. There is no question about it.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Did Phillips really swing at a ball in the dirt in the opposite batter's box?

It probably would have been called a strike.

Brutus
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Heisey K's.... but let the Stubbs bashing continue!

Yea people should focus on Orlando Cabrera's .619 OPS and average or below average defense. That's the biggest problem.

:beerme:

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
It probably would have been called a strike.

Ha!

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
7-8-9 due up for the Phils.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Ump needs to call that wide zone NOW!

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
I will too. However, we're in the 8th inning and just a few batters ago, the Reds had just two runs in the 8th. That doesn't win you many ballgames.

The hits are nice, but if not for one swing of the bat from Bruce, the swing early approach wasn't yielding desired results in the form of the only thing that matters - runs.

I disagree. With Halladay and Cliff Lee, they don't throw much outside the zone. Pick your pitch and swing, gotta be aggressive, because they won't walk anybody anyway.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 03:52 PM
Yeah!!! Bruuuuuuce!!!!!

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CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Philly announcer says Coco is "very demonstrative and makes a ton of gestures on the mound".

Really? I don't see much other than the point to the sky after a save.


Must have him confused with someone like Rodriguez or Valverde.

nemesis
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Weeeeeee! Time to ride the CoCo coaster....

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
No wonder you guys rip Marty all the time. You probably rarely hear him announce games anymore. You are watching the game on MLB Network, you have missed some great calls from Marty today.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
I think Heisey may have surpassed Janish on the "best looking guy on the team" list.

Pause.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Coco better put these guys away. A bench IF, a minor league catcher, and some pinch-hitter off the bench. He better send 'em down.

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redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
Valdez 4-3

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:53 PM
1 pitch, one down.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
One Pitcho One Outo

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
One pitch one out!

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
Pitch-hitting for the white-hot Dane Sardinha.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
1 pitch, 1 out.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
Must have him confused with someone like Rodriguez or Valverde.

I wonder if they ripped Rollins for his bat flip and pose at home plate when he hit the walk off the other night.

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 03:54 PM
One Pitcho One Outo

But did Cordero do it demonstratively?

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
But did Cordero do it demonstratively?
He mooned Valdez afterwards.

Is that demonstrative enough?

Brutus
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
I disagree. With Halladay and Cliff Lee, they don't throw much outside the zone. Pick your pitch and swing, gotta be aggressive, because they won't walk anybody anyway.

Just because they don't walk many doesn't mean you shouldn't work them. Halladay is throwing almost exclusively curveballs on the first pitch. You can't tell me that's the best pitch you're going to see in an at-bat.

I'm not saying it's always bad to swing at the first pitch. I agree -- if you get a good pitch to hit, then swing away. But some of these are curveballs that are not square in the zone.

It's one thing to swing at a good pitch early. It's completely another to make it a philosophy to go up there hacking early without being open-minded to laying off pitches unless they're a good one to square up on.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
Gload 1B to CF.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
Fudge. Especially after an 0-2 count.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
Never easy.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 03:55 PM
He mooned Valdez afterwards.

Is that demonstrative enough?

LOL

nemesis
06-30-2010, 03:56 PM
I think Heisey may have surpassed Janish on the "best looking guy on the team" list.

Pause.

Nah. Janish gets pretty boy points. My gf prefer Nix. Says he looks like a guy who tells you what he's gonna do to you. And then you say yes.... LOL.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:56 PM
Nah. Janish gets pretty boy points. My gf prefer Nix. Says he looks like a guy who tells you what he's gonna do to you. And then you say yes.... LOL.
jesus.......lol

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:56 PM
Harang is clearly the best-looking player on the team. I bet he's always been a chick magnet.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Nah. Janish gets pretty boy points. My gf prefer Nix. Says he looks like a guy who tells you what he's gonna do to you. And then you say yes.... LOL.

Hahahahaha thats great.

nemesis
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
jesus.......lol

Lol... Does anyone expect anything other than at least 1 base runner when CoCo pitches.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Two outs, but runner steals second.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
K swinging but SB, tying run at 2nd.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
K and SB.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Oh boy.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Victorino is up.

nemesis
06-30-2010, 03:57 PM
Harang is clearly the best-looking player on the team. I bet he's always been a chick magnet.

His wallet might be... LMAO

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Nix has short arms. Chicks don't dig the short arms.

HotCorner
06-30-2010, 03:58 PM
Corky. Chicks dig the 'stache.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:58 PM
I don't have the stats in front of me...how many runners has Hernandez thrown out attempting to steal?

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:58 PM
His wallet might be... LMAO
Touche.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:58 PM
His wallet might be... LMAO

Yeah, I'm thinking he probably wouldn't have a decent wife like Jen if he wasn't a $10+ million man. ;-)

Harang is one ugly dude. But he's our ugly dude!

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
I love how a best looking player on the team discussion breaks out in the middle of the 9th lol

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
YES!

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds!

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
4-3, Reds win!

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
So you are telling me...

Harang gives up a 3 run HR to Dane S.

Halladay throws a complete game.

Votto and Rolen leave 6 men on base.

YET the Reds win!!! :beerme:

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
And this one belongs to the Reds!!!

HotCorner
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
WOOHOO!!!

bucksfan2
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
Wow! Big win.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:59 PM
I love how a best looking player on the team discussion breaks out in the middle of the 9th lol

Coco is nails. Besides its better than the wave.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Nice nice win! Give Harang credit for keeping the Reds in this one when Halladay was on top of his game too.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Hate to go there but that catch by Stubbs in the gap was enormous in hindsight. Nice catch Drew. :thumbup:

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
HUGE win for the guys today! WOOT!!! :jump:

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Top 5 favorite win of the year. Might be #1.

medford
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Here's to a winning June and hopefully a strong July

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
And Miguel Cairo didn't get any votes for best-looking player? C'mon Heather, where are you at to settle these things? Oh, you would just vote for Joey anyway. Never mind.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Hopefully, Bruce has lost his pressure situation anxiety now.

Need Stubbs to do the same.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
My presentation of the final play:

4-3
3 out
Top of 9th over

4-3, Reds

What dooo you know- Reds win!

GREAT JOB!!!!

320

CTA513
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Good job by Cordero

UKFlounder
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
It's cool to sit at work & hear the fireworks blasting!

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Top 5 favorite win of the year. Might be #1.

Not my favorite, but the most impressive considering who was on the mound.

durl
06-30-2010, 04:00 PM
Wow. GREAT win for this club. They take 2 of 3 and one of those against Halladay. I love how these guys don't give up.

nemesis
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
I love how a best looking player on the team discussion breaks out in the middle of the 9th lol

Anything to avoid CoCo blowing it.... With that GAME!!!!!

Awesome Awesome win. We coulda swept the Phillies. This team is good when it wants to be...

Great start by Harang, Great bullpen work, great clutch hitting by Bruce.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Nice!

reds44
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Coco is nails. Besides its better than the wave.
Don't remind me of them doing the wave in the 9th last night. That was horrible.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
Halladay flat out got ROCKED for his standards. Kudos to the Reds' offense which is MUCH better than I thought it would be this year.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 04:01 PM
I love how a best looking player on the team discussion breaks out in the middle of the 9th lol

It worked so you guys have to keep doing this from now on.

klw
06-30-2010, 04:02 PM
yeah win
But how does a pitcher give up 13 hits and strikeout 10 and only throw 119 pitches?

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 04:02 PM
It worked so you guys have to keep doing this from now on.

Helps take the tension off when Coco's in the game. Ha! OK, we have a new tradition. It's right up there with the Rally Onion.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 04:02 PM
Don't remind me of them doing the wave in the 9th last night. That was horrible.

I'm just going to chalk it up people being hammered in the diamond seats. Turn people loose on a full bar for 3+ hours and things like 9th inning waves are bound to happen.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 04:03 PM
Don't remind me of them doing the wave in the 9th last night. That was horrible.

Hey! What's wrong with the wave? (Which I happened to participate in last night)

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Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 04:03 PM
yeah win
But how does a pitcher give up 13 hits and strikeout 10 and only throw 119 pitches?

Because the Reds were swinging early and often in counts.

And Drew Stubbs striking out 3x on 9 pitches also helped.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 04:04 PM
I don't have the stats in front of me...how many runners has Hernandez thrown out attempting to steal?

13 out of 36 (36%)

nemesis
06-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Tomorrow we can do best looking RZ poster... Lol

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Ah yes. D-backs tied it up on a Felipe Lopez fielding error. Hard to believe, I know.

reds44
06-30-2010, 04:04 PM
Tomorrow we can do best looking RZ poster... Lol
I nominate myself.

reds44
06-30-2010, 04:05 PM
Ah yes. D-backs tied it up on a Felipe Lopez fielding error. Hard to believe, I know.
Leadoff double for J-Up in the 3rd.

Ron Madden
06-30-2010, 04:05 PM
BIG WIN!!! :thumbup:

UKFlounder
06-30-2010, 04:05 PM
Hallady is now 9-7 on the year. It's hard to believe a pitcher that good has lost that many games already, especially playing for a team with Philly's offense (or at least what their offense was expected to be.)

nemesis
06-30-2010, 04:06 PM
Ah yes. D-backs tied it up on a Felipe Lopez fielding error. Hard to believe, I know.

I dont know if may of you read my little ditty about St. Louis and thier Offense/Defense but if you pitch around Albert and Matt and hit the ball on the ground you can beat that team 2 out of 3 games.

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 04:07 PM
And Miguel Cairo didn't get any votes for best-looking player? C'mon Heather, where are you at to settle these things? Oh, you would just vote for Joey anyway. Never mind.

Well, at least you figured out real quick why I never jumped into the 'best-looking player' argument up thread. You all should know who I would vote for in a heartbeat. :p:

nemesis
06-30-2010, 04:11 PM
Gotta give credit to Ondrusek. He has really figured it since he came back up from AAA.( Must like the meal money up here.)

June: 12 Games 10.1 Inn 9 H 2 R 1 BB 7 K

Been a big big help this month.

Ghosts of 1990
06-30-2010, 05:08 PM
had to sign in. Biggest win since 1999.

I knew there was a reason I wasn't turning off the radio in the office today until the Phillies collected 27 outs.

_Sir_Charles_
06-30-2010, 05:35 PM
They don't do it often but they are televising all of the Cubs series this week including tomorrow and Friday's games which are day games.

Thanks for the heads up. Saves me from searching.

traderumor
06-30-2010, 06:32 PM
As the game moved on, I kept on pleading to the baseball gods that we would not get beat by a Dane Sardhina home run. Thank goodness they saw it my way.:)

Degenerate39
06-30-2010, 09:39 PM
Cant believe the Reds won this game. I can't my first round fantasy draft pick has 7 loses either.

WVRedsFan
07-01-2010, 01:43 AM
Once again, I am amazed. I cannot watch the afternoon games. The office doesn't have the MLB network and the only way I can listen to games is on my BlackBerry. And today, I wasn't even able to do that I was so busy. Regardless, I just watched the taped replay and I have a couple of observations that most will laugh at, but they are mine regardless:

1. Harang's not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He still had a quality start, made one mistake pitch and was solid after that.
2. The difference in this team over the last few teams is Scott Rolen. Maybe it's leadership and maybe it's solid play, but he's the team leader. Kudos to O Cabrerra, too. He may be short on range, but makes up for it in effort and clutch hitting. Where would this team be if Paul Janish had been playing short all year? I shudder at the thought.
3. I can't see where the pitching is much better than in years past. On paper it might be, but subjectively the difference has been the offense which has been thrilling and competent most nights. And the fielding.

As much as I'm thrilled by the season so far, I've come to realize that Nix is pretty much a waste of time and Heisey is a much better option. Cairo is a very poor choice as the "first man off the bench."

But it all works or has worked. And I'm a really happy camper when the Reds can go out on a Wednesday afternoon and beat Roy Halladay. Now, that's what I'm talking about!

Ron Madden
07-01-2010, 04:09 AM
Once again, I am amazed. I cannot watch the afternoon games. The office doesn't have the MLB network and the only way I can listen to games is on my BlackBerry. And today, I wasn't even able to do that I was so busy. Regardless, I just watched the taped replay and I have a couple of observations that most will laugh at, but they are mine regardless:

1. Harang's not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He still had a quality start, made one mistake pitch and was solid after that.
2. The difference in this team over the last few teams is Scott Rolen. Maybe it's leadership and maybe it's solid play, but he's the team leader. Kudos to O Cabrerra, too. He may be short on range, but makes up for it in effort and clutch hitting. Where would this team be if Paul Janish had been playing short all year? I shudder at the thought.
3. I can't see where the pitching is much better than in years past. On paper it might be, but subjectively the difference has been the offense which has been thrilling and competent most nights. And the fielding.

As much as I'm thrilled by the season so far, I've come to realize that Nix is pretty much a waste of time and Heisey is a much better option. Cairo is a very poor choice as the "first man off the bench."

But it all works or has worked. And I'm a really happy camper when the Reds can go out on a Wednesday afternoon and beat Roy Halladay. Now, that's what I'm talking about!


With all due respect I have to disagree with you concerning this years pitching staff as compared to others of this decade.

The Reds had to win games 9-8 or 12-10 in the past, I can't place all the blame for that on the offense or defense. ;)

reds44
07-01-2010, 04:17 AM
Once again, I am amazed. I cannot watch the afternoon games. The office doesn't have the MLB network and the only way I can listen to games is on my BlackBerry. And today, I wasn't even able to do that I was so busy. Regardless, I just watched the taped replay and I have a couple of observations that most will laugh at, but they are mine regardless:

1. Harang's not as bad as everyone makes him out to be. He still had a quality start, made one mistake pitch and was solid after that.
2. The difference in this team over the last few teams is Scott Rolen. Maybe it's leadership and maybe it's solid play, but he's the team leader. Kudos to O Cabrerra, too. He may be short on range, but makes up for it in effort and clutch hitting. Where would this team be if Paul Janish had been playing short all year? I shudder at the thought.
3. I can't see where the pitching is much better than in years past. On paper it might be, but subjectively the difference has been the offense which has been thrilling and competent most nights. And the fielding.

As much as I'm thrilled by the season so far, I've come to realize that Nix is pretty much a waste of time and Heisey is a much better option. Cairo is a very poor choice as the "first man off the bench."

But it all works or has worked. And I'm a really happy camper when the Reds can go out on a Wednesday afternoon and beat Roy Halladay. Now, that's what I'm talking about!
I wanted to post something like this in last night's game thread when he got the single off Lidge that preceeded the Votto homer. OC looks awful at everything. His numbers are bad, he sometimes looks like the no armed man in the field, but there's just something about him. I'm not going to sit here and say he's great (or even good anymore), but if there's a big spot in the game he knows how to kick it up a knotch.

reds44
07-01-2010, 04:18 AM
With all due respect I have to disagree with you concerning this years pitching staff as compared to others of this decade.

The Reds had to win games 9-8 or 12-10 in the past, I can't place all the blame for that on the offense or defense. ;)
Everything the Reds do is better. They pitch better, they hit better, and they play better defense.

Ron Madden
07-01-2010, 05:10 AM
Not only did today's win propel the Reds into first place, it also made GAC five dollars richer. ;)

GAC
07-01-2010, 05:55 AM
Not only did today's win propel the Reds into first place, it also made GAC five dollars richer. ;)

I'm on vacation right now, but I'm looking forward to returning to work just for that! This guy is a real big-mouthed braggart, who is also a Steeler fan, so I'm looking forward to collecting. :thumbup:

I was sitting in a sports bar here in Niagara (never seen so many TVs in my life), and saw that the Reds won, so I was watching the Cards-D'Backs game with much enthusiasm as I enjoyed as couple Yuenglings and beat my son at pool.