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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 12:22 PM
http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/DSC01648.JPG

I got PBP.

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 12:32 PM
As indicated in the title of this thread the game is on the MLB Network today. I assume it will be the Phillie announcers since the Reds don't see fit to ever televise a weekday afternoon game.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 12:36 PM
^^^^
This is why I listen to matinee games on rado.

Reds radio > Visitors TV (although the Phils TV guys are pretty good, some of my favorites in the league)

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HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 12:38 PM
As indicated in the title of this thread the game is on the MLB Network today. I assume it will be the Phillie announcers since the Reds don't see fit to ever televise a weekday afternoon game.

They don't do it often but they are televising all of the Cubs series this week including tomorrow and Friday's games which are day games.

Hope you bring them some good luck today 320! :thumbup:

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:34 PM
I can only do 3 innings today, guys.

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:36 PM
We are go
Victorino up

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:37 PM
1B
0 out
Runner on 1st
Dobbs up

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Kc61
06-30-2010, 01:37 PM
Dusty should have played Rolen last night. Much more winnable pitching matchup.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:38 PM
1B
1B->2B/ Victorino
Runners on 1st and 2nd
0 out
Rollins up

Be careful Harangatang

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:41 PM
K(called)
1 out
Runners on 1st and 2nd
Howard up

Rollins not thrilled with the call.

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Kc61
06-30-2010, 01:42 PM
Harang against Howard.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 01:43 PM
I can only do 3 innings today, guys.

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We can only hope Harang lasts that long. :p:

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:43 PM
Full count on Howard

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:45 PM
SH 4-3
2B->3B/ Victorino
1B->2B/ Dobbs
2 out
Runners on 2nd and 3rd
Werth up

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:45 PM
Diggin' the caveman look that Werth came out with this year. LOL.

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 01:46 PM
Diggin' the caveman look that Werth came out with this year. LOL.

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Geico should sign him up for an ad or two.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:46 PM
2-2 on Werth

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:46 PM
Geico should sign him up for an ad or two.

They should. We're full on Werth.

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:47 PM
K(swinging)
3 out
Top of 1st over
Phillips up

0-0

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 01:47 PM
Good comeback by Harang. But you really get the feeling it's only a matter of time before the Phillies light him up.

nate
06-30-2010, 01:49 PM
Chat is open!

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:51 PM
1B
Runner on 1st
0 out
Cabrera up

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 01:51 PM
Phillips a nine game hitting streak.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:52 PM
6
1 out
Runner on 1st
Votto up

First pitch swingin AGAIN! That's all I ask of this offense right now- take a pitch.

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 01:52 PM
Just a great AB Cabrera. :rolleyes:

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:53 PM
BTW, being at the park for JV's homer last night was amazing. Very loud ballpark.

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HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 01:54 PM
BTW, being at the park for JV's homer last night was amazing. Very loud ballpark.

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I think I woke up my entire neighborhood by screaming when Joey hit that HR last night, LOL :laugh:

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:54 PM
Another thing I'm really sick of this offense doing- fouling off pitches with runners going

FC3 6-4 (2)/ Phillips out
H->1B/ Votto
Runner on 1st
2 out
Rolen up

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:55 PM
I'm gonna have to go after this inning. Sorry. :(

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Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 01:56 PM
9
3 out
Bottom of 1st over
Ibanez up

0-0

I'm out. Later,

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redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Ibanez K's looking on a curve ball.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:00 PM
Valdez grounds out 4-3, Phillips bare hands the ball, pretty good play.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:01 PM
F9, good rebound inning by Harang.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Just the type of inning Harang needed after that long 1st inning.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Any scoreless inning we get from Harang is a good inning. Just 7 more of those and we will be alright. :D

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:04 PM
Gomes F4 on one pitch.............

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:05 PM
Bruce F5 in foul territory, a 4 pitch at bat.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:05 PM
Stubbs 1B to center.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:06 PM
Hernandez 1B through the SS hole. Harang up.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Harang grounds out 4-3. Halladay at 25 pitches after two innings.

VR
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Harang grounds out 4-3. Halladay at 25 pitches after two innings.

Why not try to steal w/ Stubbs? What am I missing?

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Halladay F9

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Why not try to steal w/ Stubbs? What am I missing?

Hernandez swung at the first pitch.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:12 PM
Hernandez swung at the first pitch.

Everyone is swinging on the 1st pitch. Going to be a quick day if this continues.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:12 PM
Victorino grounds out 4-3

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Dobbs walks on 9 pitches. Now Rollins is up.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Harang had him at 1-2 and couldn't put him away.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Rollins P5 in foul territory. 0-0 middle of the 3rd.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:16 PM
Thank you Rollins for swinging at the 1st pitch.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:17 PM
Harang at 55 pitches. 6 innings, maybe?, at this pace.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:17 PM
Harang at 55 pitches. 6 innings, maybe?, at this pace.

I'd be happy with that.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:18 PM
Phillips 3U first pitch swinging.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:18 PM
I'd be happy with that.

From Harang,Yes. You take that and hope for the best.

Another one pitch out. I know Halladay throws strikes but at least try to let him prove he can today.

VR
06-30-2010, 02:19 PM
Hernandez swung at the first pitch.

I realize that....but especially with two outs and the #8 hitter coming up, why not put the play on?

I think Stubbs' wheels are ridiculous, but he seems tethered to 1st most of the time.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:19 PM
Cabrera K's swinging.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:20 PM
I realize that....but especially with two outs and the #8 hitter coming up, why not put the play on?

I think Stubbs' wheels are ridiculous, but he seems tethered to 1st most of the time.

I don't disagree, I didn't know if you were watching the game or not. To further your point, you have to be aggressive against this guy.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
Votto K's looking

Homer Bailey
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
CG for Halladay today.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Doesn't look good for the Reds today. Halladay appears to be on top of his game.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Halladay might have to throw a couple innings after the game to get his pitch count up.

VR
06-30-2010, 02:23 PM
Halladay might have to throw a couple innings after the game to get his pitch count up.

classic!

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:24 PM
Howard K's swinging.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:25 PM
Halladay might have to throw a couple innings after the game to get his pitch count up.


:laugh:

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:25 PM
Werth 1B by a lunging Cabrera.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:26 PM
Ibanez F7

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:27 PM
Valdez 1B to RF. Two on two out.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Home run, 3-0 Phils

Homer Bailey
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Unreal.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Harang is just painful to watch pitch.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Thats probably game now.

Also whats up with Reds pitchers getting beat by bad hitters?

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Has the pitcher on deck and serves that up?

VR
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Harang is just painful to watch pitch.

Middle of the strike zone and up

Bob Borkowski
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Everyone is swinging on the 1st pitch. Going to be a quick day if this continues.

In the pregame show, Dusty said that this guy throws strikes and doesn't walk many so everybody has to be ready to swing early in the count.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Sardines bites the hand that once fed him. You just knew it was coming. It was just a matter of time. I really hope Harang gets replaced in the rotation when Volquez comes back. But I'm not holding my breathe for that.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Halladay 5-3

VR
06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
89 is the fastball for Harang in June.....compared to 93 in the past.

4 MPH on a fastball that doesn't move is typically not going to bring good tidings.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
It's really going to take a miracle for the Reds to stick in this race. Just not good enough starting pitching.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
Has the pitcher on deck and serves that up?

Halladay is all of 6 for 82 in his career.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 02:31 PM
In the pregame show, Dusty said that this guy throws strikes and doesn't walk many so everybody has to be ready to swing early in the count.

Wonder if Halladay heard that.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:32 PM
It's really going to take a miracle for the Reds to stick in this race. Just not good enough starting pitching.

A move needs to be made for a starting pitcher.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:34 PM
Homer, check your pms lol

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:34 PM
Rolen 1-3, at least Rolen made him work, he ran the count full.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:35 PM
Gomes to second on a ball of Howard's glove. Not sure if it was ruled a hit or an error.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
Scored a double.

flyer85
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
sad part is the Reds have bench killed by bench players the last 2 games

LincolnparkRed
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
Need to get one back here

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
1B to RF by Bruce. Gomes to 3rd, Stubbs up.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Odds Stubbs strikesout here?

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Maybe lightening will strike here with a 3 run HR.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
At this stage of his career, Harang needs to pitch in a bigger stadium. He just allows too many home runs in the NL Central stadiums.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Stubbs is over powered by the fastball.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Odds Stubbs strikes out now?

Kc61
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Odds Stubbs strikes out now?


100 percent

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Who could have seen that coming?

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Odds Stubbs strikes out now?
Even money now.

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
89 is the fastball for Harang in June.....compared to 93 in the past.

4 MPH on a fastball that doesn't move is typically not going to bring good tidings.

Not to say he's been great or anything but Harang's last 10 starts he's at 60 IP, and a 4.18 ERA. Are we saying we don't want a league average starter going for the rest of the year? Do we have 5 guys better than 6 IP, 2 or 3 runs per start? Because if we do. The Reds are going to be in great shape.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:39 PM
Ramon F4, awful at bat by Stubbs that inning.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Ramon F4, awful at bat by Stubbs that inning.

Thom said it was 3 strikes right down the middle. Was it?

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:40 PM
At least Stubbs made him throw three pitches.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Thom said it was 3 strikes right down the middle. Was it?
Halladay threw him three fastballs right down the middle.

It was too easy.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Going to be even harder to beat Halladay when you can't get a runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Thom said it was 3 strikes right down the middle. Was it?

It was, all between 90 and 92 mph. Embarrassing really that a big leaguer couldn't even get contact on one of them.

VR
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Not to say he's been great or anything but Harang's last 10 starts he's at 60 IP, and a 4.18 ERA. Are we saying we don't want a league average starter going for the rest of the year? Do we have 5 guys better than 6 IP, 2 or 3 runs per start? Because if we do. The Reds are going to be in great shape.

I don't think most want that. Me, I just want him to figure out how the 3-4MPH on his fastball disappeared.

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
It was indeed 3 right down the middle.

I'll say it now, Stubbs needs help. I don't know if he needs to go to Louisville, the bench, more coaching, more drills, I don't know what, but he's got to make contact.

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cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
It was, all between 90 and 92 mph. Embarrassing really that a big leaguer couldn't even get contact on one of them.

Thanks and just pitiful. :(

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:43 PM
In all seriousness, I'm starting to think it's better if Stubbs just bunts in those situations.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:43 PM
Victorino F9

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
80 K this season for Stubbs, as of before this game. That puts him on pace for over 160. Ouch!

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redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
Dobbs F8

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
In all seriousness, I'm starting to think it's better if Stubbs just bunts in those situations.

Doesn't seem like he can bunt

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:45 PM
Doesn't seem like he can bunt
Doesn't seem like he can do much of anything.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:46 PM
Rollins K's looking again.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 02:48 PM
Not to say he's been great or anything but Harang's last 10 starts he's at 60 IP, and a 4.18 ERA. Are we saying we don't want a league average starter going for the rest of the year? Do we have 5 guys better than 6 IP, 2 or 3 runs per start? Because if we do. The Reds are going to be in great shape.

Let's look at Harang's full season. His ERA is over 5.00.
It's questionable if he is "league average."

Reds have allotted payroll to two starting pitchers. They can't afford for these guys to be "league average" or below. Reds need to use this combined $20 plus million to get at least one TOR starter.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:49 PM
Harang 4-3

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:50 PM
Phillips K's swinging

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:51 PM
Cabrera F8, this game is moving rather quickly.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 02:52 PM
It's official: Anyone can get a HR off Aaron Harang.

reds44
06-30-2010, 02:52 PM
The series was lost last night, not tonight.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 02:53 PM
The series was lost last night, not tonight.


Yet Rolen was rested.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:54 PM
Howard 1B CF

CTA513
06-30-2010, 02:56 PM
Cabrera needs to start hitting again so we don't have 2 bats under .240 starting.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:56 PM
Anybody know the pitching matchups for the Cubs series?

VR
06-30-2010, 02:56 PM
Harang now pumping fastballs at 87 and 88. I smell a DL stint coming.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:57 PM
F8

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:58 PM
Ibanez F4

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 02:58 PM
Valdez 1B to LF, Sardina up. Same situation, two on two out, pitcher on deck. Did Harang learn anything?

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:00 PM
F8, need some runs.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Harang now pumping fastballs at 87 and 88. I smell a DL stint coming.

Hes been throwing like that for a while but then throws some around 90-93 mph at times.

Not sure why hes not throwing harder all the time unless hes trying to get more movement.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Sardines just missed another one.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:02 PM
I'm just now able to tune in. I see that I was able to get here before the offense.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:03 PM
Unless you include a handful of at-bats in the Arizona Fall League, Dane Sardinha has never OPSed .700 or better for an entire season as a professional. Never.

KoryMac5
06-30-2010, 03:04 PM
Cabrera needs to start hitting again so we don't have 2 bats under .240 starting.

Orlando is killing us right now he is almost a walking out. With all the talk about finding another bat in the OF or another starting P, the Reds biggest hole is at SS.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:04 PM
Votto another HR!

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:04 PM
We just started the sixth, and Halladay has now thrown only 64 pitches.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
See what happens when I finally log on?

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Votto another HR!
That was an absolute golf ball.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Rolen 1B to RF

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Let's look at Harang's full season. His ERA is over 5.00.
It's questionable if he is "league average."

Reds have allotted payroll to two starting pitchers. They can't afford for these guys to be "league average" or below. Reds need to use this combined $20 plus million to get at least one TOR starter.

Well his entire season stats admittedly are below league average, but for the remainder of the season I want the guy who has been pitching better in the last two months.

I'm not suggesting that they re-sign him. But they spent the $20 million, they might as well use it.
Harang went 6 IP, gave up 3 Runs. That smells an awful like what he's done since the calendar flipped to May. Find me 5 better pitchers right now and we'll talk.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Orlando is killing us right now he is almost a walking out. With all the talk about finding another bat in the OF or another starting P, the Reds biggest hole is at SS.

I strongly disagree.

The offense overall is far better than expected and leads the league in most major categories.

The pitching numbers are quite disappointing.

You cannot compete against top pitching with this staff. The numbers don't lie. The Reds problem right now is the pitching staff and the need is for a TOR pitcher.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:06 PM
The Reds have yet to have a batter get out since I joined the thread. :D

Redsfan320
06-30-2010, 03:06 PM
Probables for the Cubs series:

Thursday: Wood vs. (Carlos) Silva
Friday: Arroyo vs. Dempster
Saturday: Cueto vs. (Randy) Wells
Sunday TBA (presumably Leake) vs. TBA (presumably Lilly)

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redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Gomes K's swinging.

First two games of that Cubs series will be tough.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
I think Gomes needs a day or two off.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Well his entire season stats admittedly are below league average, but for the remainder of the season I want the guy who has been pitching better in the last two months.

I'm not suggesting that they re-sign him. But they spent the $20 million, they might as well use it.
Harang went 6 IP, gave up 3 Runs. That smells an awful like what he's done since the calendar flipped to May. Find me 5 better pitchers right now and we'll talk.


TOR starter acquired like Cliff Lee or Dan Haren, Volquez, Arroyo, Cueto and Leake. Leake is a rookie so I cut him some slack.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
I'm just starting to watch this, but the strike zone for Halladay is ridiculous.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
Bruce K's looking on a pitch way, way, outside.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm just starting to watch this, but the strike zone for Halladay is ridiculous.

There's a lot of talk in the World Cup thread about the horrible officiating in soccer.

Baseball is not far behind, and it just seems to get worse.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
TOR starter acquired like Cliff Lee or Dan Haren, Volquez, Arroyo, Cueto and Leake. Leake is a rookie so I cut him some slack.

Haren isn't pitching like a TOR starter and hes already given up 19 homers without playing half his games at GABP.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Phillies announcer called that impossible to hit. A pitch in the opposite batter's box IS hard to hit, I agree. Gee....what's the ump looking at??

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Stubbs K's again. Back to back at bats that Stubbs doesn't make contact.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Bruce K's looking on a pitch way, way, outside.
That pitch might have crossed the tip of the corner of the plate (although I doubt it), but it was simply unhittable. I don't blame Bruce for taking his time going back to the dugout.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
At least Stubbs isn't overmatched.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
Is Harang getting these calls?

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
I guess my streak of good things happening when I'm at lunch didn't work so well today (although I'm glad Joey hit the HR). It sounds like Roy's strike zone is a little generous today or are they giving that to Harang too? Probably not. :eek:

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
Haren isn't pitching like a TOR starter and hes already given up 19 homers without playing half his games at GABP.

OK, then get Lee. Or some other rental who is pitching lights out ball.

Most contending teams have a starting pitcher the opposition fears. The Reds lack this dimension and it will hurt them down the stretch.

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
TOR starter acquired like Cliff Lee or Dan Haren, Volquez, Arroyo, Cueto and Leake. Leake is a rookie so I cut him some slack.

Cut him some slack? I'm by no means condemning Mike Leake to John Roperville or Lance Davistown, but just curious what in their most recent performances leads you to believe Mike Leake would be more likely to produce better down the stretch THIS SEASON? For that matter what leads you to believe Volquez would produce better than say 90-100IP over 15-16 starts and better than a 4.50 ERA.

If you take Aaron Harang's contract out of the equation, why do you not expect him to do what he's been doing for the last two months?

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Halladay F8

TheNext44
06-30-2010, 03:13 PM
With this ump, if I were Halliday, I would never throw a strike the rest of the game.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:14 PM
1B Victorino to RF

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Overall, Harang didn't pitch bad. He's got to make a better pitch to Sardina though, he's a veteran.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:16 PM
I would have taken 6.1, 3 ER from Harang had you asked before the game...can't let run #4 score. Terrible pitch to Dane S, no doubt...but a servicable outing fom Aaron.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
With this ump, if I were Halliday, I would never throw a strike the rest of the game.

:D I agree completely.

No wonder the Reds are swinging at every first pitch. It's going to be called a strike anyway, apparently.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
I would have taken 6.1, 3 ER from Harang had you asked before the game...can't let run #4 score. Terrible pitch to Dane S, no doubt...but a servicable outing fom Aaron.

About as good as you can expect from Harang. Although that HR allowed to a hitter like Sardina leaves a terrible taste in your mouth.

bucksfan2
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Overall, Harang didn't pitch bad. He's got to make a better pitch to Sardina though, he's a veteran.

You can't let Sardinha beat you.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:18 PM
You can't let Sardinha beat you.
If your team's going to score only one run, you can't let anyone beat you like that.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Dobbs F8

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Ondrusek is pitching by the way.

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
You can't let Sardinha beat you.

I'd rather Sardinha than Howard. Or Rollins. Or Dobbs. Or Or Or. You have to pitch to somebody. Even with the pitcher on deck I don't want my guy getting in the habit of intentionally loading the bases.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
It does sting when you realize that Brian Schneider and Dane Sardinha are probably the reason you lose two straight at home.

bucksfan2
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
I'd rather Sardinha than Howard. Or Rollins. Or Dobbs. Or Or Or. You have to pitch to somebody. Even with the pitcher on deck I don't want my guy getting in the habit of intentionally loading the bases.

It is absolutely unacceptable to serve up a HR to Sardinha, a Corky Miller type batter, with the pitcher up next.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
Rollins, F8. Need some runs (it worked last time)

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:22 PM
Stubbs glides to snag a liner that many centerfielders would have needed to dive for.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:23 PM
Stubbs glides to snag a liner that many centerfielders would have needed to dive for.

He obviously hasn't learned that he needs to dive anyway so he can make the top 10 list on ESPN.

:p:

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:23 PM
Cut him some slack? I'm by no means condemning Mike Leake to John Roperville or Lance Davistown, but just curious what in their most recent performances leads you to believe Mike Leake would be more likely to produce better down the stretch THIS SEASON? For that matter what leads you to believe Volquez would produce better than say 90-100IP over 15-16 starts and better than a 4.50 ERA.

If you take Aaron Harang's contract out of the equation, why do you not expect him to do what he's been doing for the last two months?

I can't take the contract out of the equation. Harang is eating up money that should go to a TOR starter. Leake isn't.

Leake is a rookie who performed superbly earlier this season. I would give him some more time. But eventually, if he doesn't get it going, Travis Wood or Homer Bailey will become the fifth starter.

And let's not forget that Harang had a 5.07 ERA before today. Leake - a rookie paid far less - had a 3.30 even with his recent outings.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:24 PM
Ramon 1B by a diving Valdez.

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 03:24 PM
Pinch runner, please.

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Nix hitting.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:25 PM
He obviously hasn't learned that he needs to dive anyway so he can make the top 10 list on ESPN.

:p:
He has no need to ever dive for a ball unless he's stealing a ball away from a player at a different position.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Nix flys out

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
We gotta tie this thing up here.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Phillips doubles off the wall. Come on guys!

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Juan Castro in at third base for the Phillies. WWJD?

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
9 hits on the day.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
So would have a pinch-runner have scored on the Phillips double? I turned the TV stream off.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
So would have a pinch-runner have scored on the Phillips double? I turned the TV stream off.
No, the ball was very catchable, so the runner had to hold.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
So would have a pinch-runner have scored on the Phillips double? I turned the TV stream off.

No...Werth should have caught it RH had to hold.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
OC!

3-2!

Come on Joey.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
1b CF 3-2, Phillips at 3rd. Come on Joey!

Homer Bailey
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
Janish wouldn't have hit that.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
Janish wouldn't have hit that.
There are very few things Janish would hit.

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
Janish wouldn't have hit that.

He probably could hit about .200 for the month though.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
He probably could hit about .200 for the month though.
.208 hitter for his career, so that'd be normal for him.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
MY GOD! What a call!

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
That's nowhere near a strike.

durl
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Gameday has it way outside.

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
This is stupid.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Votto K's a pitch a foot outside.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
It was ridiculous.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Shocked Votto didn't get run.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Ump just killed us.

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Did Joey just get called out on strikes again?? That hasn't happened much lately so I'm a little dubious on that call without even seeing it.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
What can MLB do about these horrible umpires? Halladay threw a pitch two pitches before that was even closer and it was called a ball.

This is so frustrating.

camisadelgolf
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
Rolen pops up to right field; inning over.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
I didn't know Tim Doneghy was now an MLB umpire.

Seriously, they need to do something about these idiots behind the plate and their inconsistent strike zone. Is Halladay taking this clown out for dinner afterwards? If not, he certainly should. Amazing how the exact same pitch is a strike for the Phillies' pitcher and a ball for the Reds' hurler.

Strikes Out Looking
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
Are the Reds even arguing the calls?

TheNext44
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
Votto needs to swing at that. Edings the ump has been calling anything close a strike for Halliday all game long.

Hoosier Red
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
KC, I took this out and moved it to its own thread.

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
Votto needs to swing at that. Edings the ump has been calling anything close a strike for Halliday all game long.

No way he hits it. It was just that far outside.

kaldaniels
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
I for some reason am flashing back to that Georiga HS catcher that let the fastball hit the ump.:D

kbrake
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
Where was Dusty on that? He should have dropkicked the umpire.

Brutus
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
Votto needs to swing at that. Edings the ump has been calling anything close a strike for Halliday all game long.

He has been, but that was not even remotely close to being a strike. That pitch was not a good call at all.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
Votto needs to swing at that. Edings the ump has been calling anything close a strike for Halliday all game long.

This isn't little league. Major league hitters can't just go and expand the zone against great pitchers like Halladay.

The pitch wasn't remotely close.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
Howard K's on a check swing.

LincolnparkRed
06-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Dusty or the bench coach need to get run on a day like that.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
I promise to never complain about the Reds tv guys again. These Philly announcers are amateur at best.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
Werth K's on a check swing.

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 03:38 PM
Meanwhile, Cards are up 1-0 already. Holliday tripled in Pujols.

Plus Plus
06-30-2010, 03:38 PM
Are these makeup calls? These check swings seem much closer than they are being called...

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
Ibanez F8, get some runs

Plus Plus
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
And, what's up with the camerawork? On many of these flyouts the camera instantly focuses deep into the gap.

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
Incredibly frustrating couple of games so far. Big comeback win for the Cardinals and crappy 3rd string catchers are killing us.

mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
I remember when Harang used to get that extra 2" off the plate...ahh the good ol days...

mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Incredibly frustrating couple of games so far. Big comeback win for the Cardinals and crappy 3rd string catchers are killing us.

2 runs and the world is right again.

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:41 PM
Harang's getting paid that money regardless. We can't just say *poof* I want a top line starter, Aaron you're not getting paid anything the rest of the year.
If we get a top line starter, the team trading him won't take Harang back.

.

If I'm the Reds I'm exploring deals for Harang to open up payflex for a TOR starter.

Maybe you are right that he's not tradeable. I have no idea, but I'm exploring it.

Actually, a team playing in a big ballpark would be smart to take Harang. He could do well in Seattle, or San Diego, or Citifield. Whether they would bite, I don't know.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
11 hits.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Gomes 1B to LF, he's 2-4.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Come on Jay.

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!!!!

LEAD

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
BRUCE!

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
BRUCE!!!!

Plus Plus
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Jay Bruce just obliterated a hanger into the sun deck.

mdccclxix
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Oh thank you lord
Oh thank you lord
Oh thank you lord
Oh thank you lord

medford
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
and I was just getting ready to type that Jay could make my day.

BRUUUUUUCCCCCCEEEEEE!!!!!!

HotCorner
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Bruuuuuuccceeee!!!!

Playadlc
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
BRUCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HeatherC1212
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Way to go Jay!!! :D

cumberlandreds
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Wow! How about that!

CTA513
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Halladay giving up hits like you would expect Harang to.

As I type this Bruce goes deep and gives the Reds the lead while also take Harang off the hook.

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
WHOOOOHOOO! Way to go Jay Bruce baybee!

OesterPoster
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Of course, I benched Jay on my fantasy team today. :)

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Not really a hanger, looked like Halladay was gunning for that outside phantom strike again

Cedric
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
We need more runs. Lets finish this off guys.

redsfaninbsg
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Stubbs K's again.

NJReds
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Bruce has just gotten better and better this year. Awesome!

oneupper
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Stubbs flustered. Is that a golden sombrero?

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Man, it doesn't take Stubbs long to K. He's very efficient. ;-)

reds44
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Halladay has struck out Stubbs three times on 9 pitches his last 3 abs.

Plus Plus
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Stubbs looks awfully overmatched today...

Blitz Dorsey
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Halladay has struck out Stubbs three times on 9 pitches his last 3 abs.

And not one of us is surprised about it. ;-)

Kc61
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Stubbs is basically a rookie. Let's give him a chance to develop.

He does strike out a lot, though.