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Reds
06-30-2010, 12:22 PM
http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/assets_c/2010/06/DSC01648-thumb-500x446-2196851.jpg
same lineup as monday
http://ramsey.mlblogs.com/assets_c/2010/06/IMG_4436-thumb-500x333-2196791.jpg

arkimadee
06-30-2010, 12:27 PM
I shouldn't have a good feeling about this game but I do. I think the Reds win 2-1 today..

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 01:30 PM
Game on MLB Network today

Jack Burton
06-30-2010, 01:31 PM
This game will definitely tell us a lot about our club. Talk about building team morale w/ a victory here today. But it will not be an easy task going against Halladay and the reigning NL champs.

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 01:32 PM
Looks like it will be the Phillies announcers. I kinda like listening to other team's guys to see what they think of the Reds.

redsfanmia
06-30-2010, 01:39 PM
Father and Son doing the radio, I may just follow the gamecast on espn. I can not take Marty and Thom together.

Reds
06-30-2010, 01:45 PM
great 3-2 pitch to rollins

2 outs, it would be nice to come to the plate still tied.

Reds
06-30-2010, 01:47 PM
27 pitch first inning for Harang. 0 runs tho

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:47 PM
Alright. Time to make a statement early that this isn't going to be Roy's day.

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 01:49 PM
27 pitch first inning for Harang. 0 runs tho

I was thinking to myself when he went full on Werth that Aaron has to start getting outs or he wont make it to the fifth inning.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:51 PM
Leadoff single by Brandon on an 8 or 9 pitch at-bat. Nice.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 01:53 PM
Another hit for Brandon Phillips. This is a recording.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 01:53 PM
I wonder why no sacrifice there? That seems like a perfect "sacrifice" situation for Dusty.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:54 PM
We went hit-and-run on the first pitch to Cabrera and he hit a weak pop-up.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:54 PM
Votto reaches on fielder's choice. Phillips out at second.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 01:55 PM
Take your former teammate deep, Scottie.

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 01:55 PM
Was Rolen's at-bat music "Always look on the bright side of life?"

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:56 PM
Well, Brandon had a good at-bat. Other than that, though, :rolleyes:

texasdave
06-30-2010, 01:56 PM
No score after one.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 01:57 PM
FWIW, Halladay threw 17 pitches that inning.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 01:59 PM
Harang K's Ibanez looking.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:00 PM
If I lived in the area - with the weather, the defending NL champs, roy halliday, and a chance to tie for first today - it would have been hard to stay away from GABP for this one.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:00 PM
Nice barehand play by Phillips on a grounder up the middle.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:00 PM
Phillips fields the ball barehanded and guns down the runner. Two down.

GIDP
06-30-2010, 02:01 PM
Hit and runs and sac bunts are the stupidest freaking plays in the world. Why do we insist on doing them all the freaking time.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:01 PM
I much prefer the bunt or steal to the hit and run.

It takes special players IMO to hit and run correctly.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Bruce with a fine running catch. 6 straight set down by Aaron.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:02 PM
Well, odds are we aren't going to be able to put together three hits in an inning against Halladay. Cabrera isn't hitting, so trying to get that runner to second with Votto and Rolen coming up seems like a good idea to me. Maybe not if we are facing an average pitcher.

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 02:04 PM
Phillips fields the ball barehanded and guns down the runner. Two down.

The Phillies announcers stopped short of saying it but they basically accused Phillips of being a hot dog. They said he threw the runner out by thirty feet. Why didn't he just glove the ball and make a sure throw. Was a little childish on their part.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:04 PM
Jesus. Gomes swings first pitch (surprise!) and gets jammed. One quick ass out.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:04 PM
Right, I would have just bunted phillips over, if it was me. not a big deal though, dusty certainly wasn't sleeping or sitting on his hands or anything

Gomes average is droppin' like a rock!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:05 PM
I prefer just stealing the base as well, when possible.

Bruce fouls out. We're about to follow up a 17-pitch inning with a 5-pitch inning.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:07 PM
Back2back hits and "Babe" Harang heads to the plate.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:08 PM
Halladay faced five batters and threw a total of 8 pitches. Way to make him work.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:08 PM
Well, two more hits but no runs.

Pitch counts through two:
Harang: 37
Halladay: 25

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:09 PM
we were able to flip our lineup over though. we'll start seeing roy for a second time starting in the 3rd.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:10 PM
Harang should not have swung until he had two strikes. He wasn't gonna get a hit anyway.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Halladay skies to right and we have one down.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:11 PM
Halladay flies out to nearly the track in right. Now the Phillies start their second time through.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:12 PM
Harang has set down 8 in a row now as Victorini grounds to 2nd. Nice.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Dobbs sees more pitches in this at-bat than all five Reds last inning combined. Harang had him 0-2 and lost him.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Dobbs makes Harang throw more pitches to him than all five of the Reds combined in the second.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Rolllins pops up weakly.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:16 PM
54 pitches through three. Let's get a run or two.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:18 PM
Holy ****. This is awful.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:18 PM
One pitch, one out.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:19 PM
Cabrera whiffs. I kid you not, he missed that ball by six inches.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:20 PM
1st of the game for Halladay.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
Votto K's looking on three pitches. Awful at-bat. This guy's going the distance, no question.

Jack Burton
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
Cabrera whiffs. I kid you not, he missed that ball by six inches.

He's terrible, I'm all for Janish getting the starting spot for a few weeks to see how he performs.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
Votto strikes out. 9-pitch third for Doc.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:21 PM
17 pitches in the first, 17 combined in the second and third.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:22 PM
He's terrible, I'm all for Janish getting the starting spot for a few weeks to see how he performs.

I don't think Janish is worth a crap, but I agree. It's almost a given that he can't do any worse.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:22 PM
Harang matching him zero for zero; but a throwing a lot more pitches in the process.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:24 PM
Harang wastes so many pitches. Only problem is they aren't even close enough to entice the hitter.

Strikeout of Howard.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:24 PM
Harang dealing.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:25 PM
This guy talking for the Phillies is our newest outfielder's dad, right?

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:25 PM
Werth singles into left.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:25 PM
One out liner as Cabrera waves at it.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:26 PM
Ibanez weak pop up into left.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Sardina 3-run homer.

Ballgame.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
Dane Sardinha can't hit even if you let him put the ball on a tee.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
And he takes Harang deep.

redsrolen
06-30-2010, 02:28 PM
COME ON HARANG!!!!!!!!!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Harang missed his location by 18 inches. Inexcusable by Harang with the pitcher on deck. Just completely inexcusable.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Th-th-th-that's all, Folks!

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
15 bombs in 97 innings of pitching for Aaron.

GIDP
06-30-2010, 02:29 PM
Im tired of watching Harang do this. Seriously 2 outs and you give back to back to back hits the 3rd one being a homer with the pitcher on deck? Not even going to talk about who he gave it up to.

Im tired of it.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
Volquez in, Harang out. Please.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:30 PM
harang doesn't belong in cincinnati based purely on the fact that he's a fly ball pitcher.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:31 PM
Im tired of watching Harang do this. Seriously 2 outs and you give back to back to back hits the 3rd one being a homer with the pitcher on deck? Not even going to talk about who he gave it up to.

Im tired of it.

I'm with you, only I was tired of it two years ago. FWIW, it was hit, out, hit, hit. Not like that's any better, though.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:32 PM
Work to do, fellas.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:33 PM
let's rally and knock roy out before the ninth. if we can just find a way to win this game it would be our biggest of the year.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:33 PM
Scotty making him work a little.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:34 PM
I'm with you, only I was tired of it two years ago. FWIW, it was hit, out, hit, hit. Not like that's any better, though.

It was out hit out hit hit out.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:35 PM
It was out hit out hit hit out.

I know. I was simply saying it wasn't back-to-back-to-back hits.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:35 PM
I know. I was simply saying it wasn't back-to-back-to-back hits.

Cool.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:35 PM
Gomes with a check-swing hustling double.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
Weirdest double you'll ever see there. Come on Bruce.

redsrolen
06-30-2010, 02:36 PM
Way to hustle Johnny!!!!!!

:beerme:

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Bruce singles. First and third.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Bruce singles into right, but Gomes can't score. Ball was hit to sharply and Jonny wasn't running right away because it was a liner.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Reds need to get something back here.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Oh no.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
If it is down the middle, Stubbs never swings. Drew "K" Stubbs grabs some pine.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:38 PM
Stubbs strikes out on three pitches. Way too easy. I know the guy is a very good pitcher but a major leaguer shouldn't K that easily, especially in that situation.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:39 PM
That rally fizzled.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:40 PM
Another wasted inning. Halladay did throw 18 pitches, not that it's going to matter in this game.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Our lineup has too many holes in it. We need help at short and in the outfield if we are going to seriously contend all the way through the season.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:41 PM
Also we need Hanigan to hurry up and get back. He's a solid hitter, plus he handles our staff so much better than Ramon.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:44 PM
Does anyone know why Harang throws these pitches so far out of the zone on two strike counts? I bet the guy could cut his pitch counts by 15% if he didn't do so much of that. I mean I'm fine with making a guy chase when you're in control of the count, but what good does it do to put it in his eyes? No competent big leaguer is going to swing at that.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:47 PM
Bounceback inning by Harang. File that under too little, too late.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:49 PM
I still can't believe he gave their No. 8 hitter that pitch with two outs and the pitcher on deck, particularly with two men on.

Reds
06-30-2010, 02:50 PM
Harang was as pis*ed about as we are, throwing his glove around the dugout. Still, if he can go 7 and allow 3 we probably shouldn't expect too much more of him.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:51 PM
Harang grounds out weakly, Phillips strikes out.

Looks like we're not going to make any noise today. And Halladay's pitch count is very comfortable. He'll have no trouble going the distance.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:52 PM
Another 8-pitch inning for Halladay.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 02:54 PM
Harang won't make it through 7 unless something really changes.

Howard with a leadoff single.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 02:58 PM
I have seen this before.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
History almost repeats. Yikes.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:01 PM
Ah yes. Second place blues.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:04 PM
solo shot for votto

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:04 PM
Damn. I don't know how he hit that pitch out.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Joey Votto is a man. 38-game on-base streak.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:05 PM
Scott Rolen upping the ante.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:06 PM
single for rolen, come on lets make some noise

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Votto bringing his A+ game when it counts most. I would love for him to really get on a roll. Or a rolen. However you look at it. :D

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
gomes fooled badly on that strikeout

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Gomes looks ... not good.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
Go deep, Jay. You're due.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:07 PM
I love goin' deep.

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
Strike???!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
That pitch was off the plate. I mean four or five inches off the plate. Terrible call.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:08 PM
That was ridiculous.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Lefties batting .270 against Halladay this year. Why didn't we stack the lineup with lefties? :D

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
definatley giving halladey the black

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Stubbs' last two at-bats: 6 pitches, two strikeouts.

Nice job, rook.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:09 PM
Booooo!!

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
Stubbs and his every at-bat taking first pitch strike.

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
He only threw 2 strikes the whole inning! His stuff breaks out of the zone all the time!

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:10 PM
Home run, single and then 3 K's on 10 pitches.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
St. Louis up 5-0 in the first.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
Just kidding.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
They'll be five games up by the All-Star break.

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:11 PM
St. Louis up 5-0 in the first.Stop that!

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Gloom and doom! Gloom and doom! Where's Maker when you need him?

GIDP
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
The strike zone the last inning was a joke. Bruce gets called out on a pitch that would have hit him if he was a right hander, then stubbs gets called out on a ball 4 inches low.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
Soup pan on the mound for St. Louis. That's a loss.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:12 PM
I wonder if they'll pinch hit for Halladay next inning. ;)

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:13 PM
The strike zone the last inning was a joke. Bruce gets called out on a pitch that would have hit him if he was a right hander, then stubbs gets called out on a ball 4 inches low.

It's the Halladay strike zone.

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:14 PM
Soup pan on the mound for St. Louis. That's a loss.Yeah, but Ariz brought their guy up just today from AAA....no telling WHAT will happen in this game.

History is with Ariz. as the Cards have failed to sweep a 3 game series dating back to last August.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:15 PM
Anyone warming up for the Reds? Marty and Thom are too busy talking about themselves, AGAIN, to let us know. They love themselves a lot.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:16 PM
thats it for harang 6 1/3 innings three runs not bad but not bad but not great

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:16 PM
Why do announcers think that is good broadcasting to talk about themselves all the time? Does anyone care?

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Three runs so far. It could be four. Time will tell.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Harang is a home run machine. Trade him to a team with a deep park that doesn't have the wind swirling out, and he might be alot better.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
Why do announcers think that is good broadcasting to talk about themselves all the time? Does anyone care?

I care.

They had me at hello.

redsrolen
06-30-2010, 03:17 PM
I was just wondering, is Stubbs ever embarrassed by his 3 pitch at bats? He doesn't appear to be!!!!

:confused:

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:18 PM
I care.

They had me at hello.

They had me at hello. And then lost me at blah blah blah.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Dane Sardinha couldn't fungo a ball out of the park. How did he ever go deep?

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
I was just wondering, is Stubbs ever embarrassed by his 3 pitch at bats? He doesn't appear to be!!!!

:confused:

He might be, but what can he really do about it? He just isn't good enough to see four pitches against a guy like Halladay right now. :(

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:19 PM
They had me at hello. And then lost me at blah blah blah.

They complete me. :D

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:20 PM
They yin my yang?

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:20 PM
Now he's squeezing our big tall guy (I can't spell his name and am not going to try).

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:20 PM
He might be, but what can he really do about it? He just isn't good enough to see four pitches against a guy like Halladay right now. :(

Stubbs is still dealing with the embarrassment of missing that catch at the wall last night. In fact, he has a whole list of embarrassments he's working on right now. He probably went back to the clubhouse and put that at-bat on the list to get to later. :p:

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
Stubbs with an outstanding catch!!! Yipee!!

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
O-N-D-R-U-S-E-K
Now he's squeezing our big tall guy (I can't spell his name and am not going to try).

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
nice running catch by stubbs to end the inning

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:21 PM
Cross one of those embarrassments off the list for that catch.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:22 PM
The list just went from 30 to 29. Good for Stubbs.

redsrolen
06-30-2010, 03:23 PM
Vottomatic, you are cracking this old 56 year old woman up today!!!
You brought your A game!!! I needed to laugh!!!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:24 PM
Juan Castro sighting!!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:24 PM
Nice 2-strike hit by Ramon.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:24 PM
Razor with his second hit of the game.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:25 PM
All Halladay does is throw strikes.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Nicks hits for Ondrusek and flyes out.

Kiss the Baby00
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
way to go b phill!!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Phillips double brings our MVP to the plate with a chance to tie the game.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Woohoo......2nd and 3rd as Phillips doubles to the right field wall.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:26 PM
Ramon, then probably Nix as a PHer. Then BP!!! Let's get it started!!!

YouTube - Black Eyed Peas - Let's Get it Started (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX54zNjcpXc)

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Cabrera just hit a check-swing foul on what would have been ball 2.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
Phillips double brings our MVP to the plate with a chance to tie the game.

They won't give him anything to hit. Although putting him on loads the bases.

I hope Joey is selective. I bet they do everything but give him something to hit.

Kiss the Baby00
06-30-2010, 03:27 PM
o cab heating up!!!

Kiss the Baby00
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
double post oops

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
OCab!!!!!!!! 1st and 3rd 3-2 Phillies.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
rbi single for o-cab lets go joey

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:28 PM
O-Cab with a hit!!

Phillips should have scored IMO. I guess they didn't want to push it with Votto coming up, but he could have made it I think.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
How does Mark Berry not send Brandon Phillips on that?

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
O-Cab with a hit!!

Phillips should have scored IMO. I guess they didn't want to push it with Votto coming up, but he could have made it I think.

The ball was a dribbler. Phillips could have walked in.

Kiss the Baby00
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
How does Mark Berry not send Brandon Phillips on that?

bc there is 1 out and any contact by votto should get the run in

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
I don't know, but you have to push that with Hallday on the mound. Bad move by Berry.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:29 PM
bc there is 1 out and any contact by votto should get the run in

Not a good reason.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
That's why you send him there. Halladay is a great pitcher. Phillips would have scored fairly easily IMO.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
That was a freaking ball.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
I don't know, but you have to push that with Hallday on the mound. Bad move by Berry.

Exactly. When you see those pitches that were called 3rd strikes on Votto, Bruce, and Stubbs, you send the runner 100% of the time in that situation.

If Dusty doesn't get tossed here, he has no balls.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:30 PM
he has been calling that a strike all game

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Halladay is a strikeout pitcher getting every call in the book today. That's why you send him.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Ump is in Manuel's pocket today. This is ridiculous.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:31 PM
Mark Berry not sending Brandon cost us this game.

Another stupid move by Mark Berry.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Dusty has no balls.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
rolen pops out not sending brandon really hurts now

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Mark Berry not sending Brandon cost us this game.

Another stupid move by Mark Berry.

I agree totally.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
I don't know that it cost us the game, but we should be tied right now, no question.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Manuel would have been tossed the last inning...definitely this inning.

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
Mark Berry not sending Brandon cost us this game.

Another stupid move by Mark Berry.

Wasnt aware this was little league and the game ended in the 7th.

FlyerFanatic
06-30-2010, 03:32 PM
that ump is insane. yes, its roy halladay but that wide of a zone? jeez

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:33 PM
I don't know that it cost us the game, but we should be tied right now, no question.

If we don't score here over the next 6 outs, it cost us the game.

Mark Berry should be fired. I've never seen a 3rd base coach with so many bone-headed plays. 3rd Base Coaches should be un-noticeable.

FlyerFanatic
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
not a fan of mark berry, but i dont blame him for holding brandon. votto up with 1 out, let votto work a hit

The Voice of IH
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
When you give Halladay that type of strike zone, game over, how are you suppose to stop him, horrible, Votto ring up was well off the plate

FlyerFanatic
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
When you give Halladay that type of strike zone, game over, how are you suppose to stop him, horrible, Votto ring up was well off the plate

exactly, roy halladay must think its christmas in june, its insane

GIDP
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
If only leake got the strike zone Halladay is getting today.

Kiss the Baby00
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
if he sent phillips and he got thrown out all you nut bags would be freaking out that he sent the runner with 1 out with our best hitters coming up and that he cost us the game. results oriented thinking for the loss!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
If we don't score here over the next 6 outs, it cost us the game.

Ties don't equal wins. You can say it cost us a "chance" to win the game, but you can't say it cost us the game, period. Remember, we were tied last night after nine innings and we didn't get a win. We had to keep playing and we lost.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:34 PM
well lets see how arthur bounces back after last night

The Voice of IH
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
but I do not agree with the Berry Haters, Votto up with less then 2 outs usually equals a for sure run, if it was not for a terrible umpire that is

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
not a fan of mark berry, but i dont blame him for holding brandon. votto up with 1 out, let votto work a hit

You have to look at the situation. You send him 100% of the time with this umpiring crew and Halladay pitching and only 2 innings left in the game.

Reds
06-30-2010, 03:35 PM
if phillips knew he could have scored he would have blown off the stop sign. it was 50/50 IMO. i don't like berry tho

mivers176
06-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Yeah, sounds like Thom is agreeing as well w/ the inconsistent umpiring behind the plate. that stinks.

still, no matter what, no reason to let the 7 and 8 hitters in this lineup crush you, i'm bummed that we've held Howard, Werth, Rollins, etc down but those scrubs in the 7-8 holes are beating us last night and today.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:36 PM
Not as impressed with Halladay now that I know he has a 5' x 5' strike zone.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:36 PM
but I do not agree with the Berry Haters, Votto up with less then 2 outs usually equals a for sure run, if it was not for a terrible umpire that is

You have to know the situation. It was so obvious to send the runner. As I was typing how bad the called strikes were to Stubbs and Bruce, the umpire blows another call with Votto. Anyone could see that coming.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
Not as impressed with Halladay now that I know he has a 5' x 5' strike zone.

He has the 'Greg Maddux' strike zone.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:37 PM
but I do not agree with the Berry Haters, Votto up with less then 2 outs usually equals a for sure run, if it was not for a terrible umpire that is

One of the best pitchers in the game with a huge strike zone. You HAVE to send him there. It was a boneheaded call by Berry, I don't care who is about to be up to bat. It was a soft liner into center and Victorino fielded it about mid-center field, he was not particularly shallow. And Brandon runs well.

This game has been one bonehead play after another for us, starting with Harang's inexplicable pitch to Sardinha.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:38 PM
Dusty should get his fat butt out there and complain about the strike zone. Fire up the umps and tell them they're screwing us. Worked for Manual last night.

Reds
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
Manuel has been tossed out 3 times in 10 games. Dusty has been tossed 3 times in 2 years.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
nice rebound for arthur

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:39 PM
I'm really looking forward to Stubbs 3 pitch at-bat this inning and his walk back to the dugout.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
nice rebound for arthur

Yeah, the next Bill Walton.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm really looking forward to Stubbs 3 pitch at-bat this inning and his walk back to the dugout.

I am looking forward to his blast to center and trot around the bases.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
One of the best pitchers in the game with a huge strike zone. You HAVE to send him there. It was a boneheaded call by Berry, I don't care who is about to be up to bat. It was a soft liner into center and Victorino fielded it about mid-center field, he was not particularly shallow. And Brandon runs well.



Yes, yes, and yes.

It's just such a consistent error by Mark Berry. He makes these mistakes on a weekly basis. I've never seen that before from a 3rd base coach.

Couple in the fact that the REDS are the worst team in the National League at getting runners in from 3rd and less than 2 outs, that's one more reason to send him.

The REDS absolutely suck at getting runners in from 3rd w/ less than 2 outs, whether it's Votto up or anyone else. (There's probably one exception like Hanigan or Gomes).

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:40 PM
I'm really looking forward to Stubbs 3 pitch at-bat this inning and his walk back to the dugout.

It worked yesterday. Hope it works today.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Come on Bruce. Do something.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Rally time. Gomes singles.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
single for gomes lets go bruce

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:42 PM
Bruce!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Oh my god what a comeback!!

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
OH!!!!

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
BRuuuuuuuccccceeeee!!!!!

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
BRUCE!

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Go Bruce!

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
bruuuuuuuce two run home run reds take the lead

mivers176
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
wow. Bruce FINALLY gets a clutch hit. unbelievable. lets shut this down, would be a HUUUUUGE win.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
He took it out of the ump's hands.

Magdal
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
$#$*!!#$! the umpires.

Go Bruce!

AMEN!

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:43 PM
Stubbs should drag bunt.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
This is one tough team.

And, yes....I'm so glad we have Cordero.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Holy cow. Three at-bats. Nine pitches. Three strikeouts. Grab a clue on your way back to the dugout, Stubbs.

mivers176
06-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Geez. Stubbs sees 9 pitches in last 3 ab's and cant put anything in play!? ugh.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Stubbs needs a week off.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Sorry, mods, but you can only take so much from this umpiring crew.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Cordero will face the bottom of the Phillies' lineup in the 9th.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:45 PM
Stubbs needs a week off.

Heisey needs the playing time just as much as Stubbs does. Get that into you thick skull, Duhsty.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Cordero will face the bottom of the Phillies' lineup in the 9th.

The toughest part of the lineup in this series.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
Ramon brought it today.

How many hits do we have now against Halladay? 13?

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
13 hits off of Halladay so far.

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:46 PM
I think the stress of existing is getting to Stubbs. He needs some time off.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
Heisey saw a ball!! You see that Stubbs?

Vottomatic
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
St. Louis up 1-0. Suppan with a no-hitter after one inning.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
There's some contact! Woohoo!

redsrolen
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
This team is so exciting!!!!!!




:jump:

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:47 PM
13 hits off of Halladay so far.

If it wasn't for the umpires, we'd have 6 or 7 runs.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Ramon brought it today.

How many hits do we have now against Halladay? 13?

That's 4 straight starts for Ramon. He badly needs a day off. I don't know how he's getting these hits.

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:48 PM
Another crappy call.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Heisey struck out. That ball got a lot of the plate, I think it was the right call. But hey, at least he saw 6 pitches.

texasdave
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Three outs and they take the series from Philadelphia.

moewan
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
umps been consistent today consistantly bad

HalMorrisRules
06-30-2010, 03:49 PM
Another crappy call.

Nope

mivers176
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
ari tied it

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
Nope

I'll give the ump that one. But, he owes the REDS a few of those calls.

RedsFanInBama
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
These Phillies announcers calling Cordero a hot dog. WTF?

Reds
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
This win would be huge it should go without saying

Kingspoint
06-30-2010, 03:50 PM
When a pitcher has given up 13 hits, he shouldn't be getting close calls.