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GIDP
07-05-2010, 11:47 AM
Drew Stubbs from May 8th through July 4th (Since being moved out of the lead off spot)

BA: .276
OBP: .340
Slug: .494

Jay Bruce from April 12th to July 4th (7th game of the year, and after his 1-19 start to the season)

BA: .292
OBP: .370
Slug: .491

Brandon Phillips from May 8th to July 4th (day he was moved out of the 4 spot)
BA: .339
OBP: .394
Slug: .520

Jason Heyward May 13th to June 26th (last 40 games he played)
BA: .222
OBP: .328
Slug: .361

Vottomatic
07-05-2010, 11:57 AM
Yet Heyward gets voted to the All Star game and the best player in the NL doesn't or doesn't even get picked beyond the voting.

It shows what a joke the AS game is.

scott91575
07-05-2010, 12:03 PM
Yet Heyward gets voted to the All Star game and the best player in the NL doesn't or doesn't even get picked beyond the voting.

It shows what a joke the AS game is.

Fan voting is one thing. Time to throw in Omar Infante numbers to show the genius of Charlie Manuel.

Of course after all the Infante talk, he will probably be the All Star MVP.

Magdal
07-05-2010, 01:46 PM
But Votto will play. Never fear.

Natty Redlocks
07-05-2010, 02:16 PM
I would trade Stubbs for Heyward in a heartbeat. I would trade Phillips for Heyward in a heartbeat. Bruce or Votto, maybe not. But Heyward is really really really good.

GIDP
07-05-2010, 02:28 PM
I would trade Stubbs for Heyward in a heartbeat. I would trade Phillips for Heyward in a heartbeat. Bruce or Votto, maybe not. But Heyward is really really really good.

He has a OPS of .821 this year. He will probably be good one day but he is being carried by 1 good month so far this year. He strikes out just as much as Drew Stubbs. Like I said he could be good, Id trade him for Stubbs, maybe Phillips because of money but as it stands right now hes hit for a sub .700 OPS this year for 60% of his season. He started off hot, but hes been far from really really good.

Natty Redlocks
07-05-2010, 02:57 PM
He has a OPS of .821 this year. He will probably be good one day but he is being carried by 1 good month so far this year. He strikes out just as much as Drew Stubbs. Like I said he could be good, Id trade him for Stubbs, maybe Phillips because of money but as it stands right now hes hit for a sub .700 OPS this year for 60% of his season. He started off hot, but hes been far from really really good.

He's only 20; he's doing as well in his first year as Bruce is doing in his third. I agree he probably doesn't belong in the ASG yet, but he's a very exciting player on a popular team and he started off very hot.

GIDP
07-05-2010, 02:59 PM
He's only 20; he's doing as well in his first year as Bruce is doing in his third. I agree he probably doesn't belong in the ASG yet, but he's a very exciting player on a popular team and he started off very hot.

For all but 6 games Bruce has been the better player. Im not trying to compare them, but I do want to point out that hes had 1 month where he struck out hardly ever and 2 months where he struck out 30% of the time. He has a good future probably but hes living of a lot of hype right now.

RedsFanInBama
07-05-2010, 02:59 PM
Jeff Francouer started out hot also. I'm just saying.

**Crosses fingers that Francouer doesn't go off the next three days**

GIDP
07-05-2010, 03:02 PM
Like I said im not trying to bag on Heyward, im just pointing out something that many probably dont even notice. After 30 games to start Heywards career, hes been a sub .700 OPS hitter. Media doesnt do their job, and they would have you believe Heyward has been dominating all season long.

Natty Redlocks
07-05-2010, 03:08 PM
Fair enough. Honestly, I wasn't aware he'd dropped off so much. My only point is it's not like he's some journeyman riding a hot start to his only all-star game ever; he'll likely be a fixture every year.

RedsFanInBama
07-05-2010, 03:11 PM
Fair enough. Honestly, I wasn't aware he'd dropped off so much. My only point is it's not like he's some journeyman riding a hot start to his only all-star game ever; he'll likely be a fixture every year.
He's just a rookie riding a hot start and hype to his first all-star game. He might be a fixture for years to come. Given the state of outfielders in the game right now, it won't take much.

lidspinner
07-05-2010, 03:24 PM
Fair enough. Honestly, I wasn't aware he'd dropped off so much. My only point is it's not like he's some journeyman riding a hot start to his only all-star game ever; he'll likely be a fixture every year.

not saying I disagree with ya....but watching a Braves game a few weeks ago the announcer was talking about JH and hi scold streak....said that 90% of his hits were off of fastballs....They were making the comment that early on pitchers thought they could fastball him to death.....and once they realized he can hit the fastball, they threw offspeed and he has not hit that at all....they gave the stat that like 3% of his total hits have came from off speed stuff....I have no idea if that is true but if it is and that does not change after the ASB, then you are watching Cerano part 2.

I am not ready to say Heyward is a fixture in the ASG, but he sure was fun to watch those 1st few weeks of the season...lets see what he does the rest of the year...

Kingspoint
07-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Yet Heyward gets voted to the All Star game and the best player in the NL doesn't or doesn't even get picked beyond the voting.

It shows what a joke the AS game is.

Yep. Hayward and that "backup infielder at best" Infante (or whatever that Atlanta scrub is named) have no business being in the All-Star game. I'm guessing Charlie Manuel doesn't like Dusty Baker.