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TRF
07-06-2010, 03:14 PM
Has anyone paid attention to what Matt Belisle is doing in Colorado? 3-1 50 IP, 53K's 2.70 ERA 1.06 WHIP.

Those are some nice numbers.

Anyone see any other Ex-Reds of note?

fearofpopvol1
07-06-2010, 03:23 PM
I don't fault the Reds too much for giving up on him. He was given a lot of chances and could never put it together. He probably deserved more time in the Reds pen, but he just wasn't the best option at that time. Hard to fault the Reds.

TRF
07-06-2010, 03:39 PM
Not faulting, just checking in. I wanted him to be a starter, but I guess he really is a reliever. Always liked watching him pitch. good FB. This season will likely cement him as having value, and set him and his family up for a very nice future. He's making $850K this year. I see that making a rather sizeable jump, maybe 2 years 2.5M for him next year. He's been their most used reliever this year, most IP, 2nd in appearances.

It amazes me how many good relievers Bowden was able to get for the Reds, some of whom are still pitching (Denys Reyes springs to mind.)

Joseph
07-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Didn't he have a terrible season last year?

Good for Matt though, seems like a likable guy.

VR
07-06-2010, 04:46 PM
thanks for the post TRF.....I always thought it would be good to have a sticky for this topic, it's good to keep up with former Reds.

Benihana
07-06-2010, 04:49 PM
I always liked Belisle, but like you I liked him as a starter.

TRF
07-06-2010, 04:58 PM
Denys Reyes sure has had an interesting career. 8 teams since leaving Cincinnati, 10 overall. Suffled in KC, TX, COL, AZ, SD and PIT. Then it just clicked for him in Minnesota. He's been money the last 4 seasons. fairly cheap too.

camisadelgolf
07-06-2010, 06:33 PM
Adam Dunn is being Adam Dunn, and Jeff Keppinger is being Jeff Keppinger.
Jerry Hairston, Jr. is doing a mediocre job as San Diego's shortstop.
Alex Gonzalez is having a career year, but that isn't saying much.
Craig Tatum isn't doing so well in Baltimore.
Todd Coffey has been decent.
Dave Ross has been doing a great job in a limited role for the Braves.
Jeremy Affeldt is having a rough year in San Francisco.
Corey Patterson is doing a decent job in Baltimore.

RBA
07-06-2010, 06:35 PM
Junior retired.

11larkin11
07-06-2010, 06:37 PM
Junior retired.

What?!?!?!?!

UKFlounder
07-06-2010, 06:39 PM
Adam Rosales is unspectacular in Oakland .265/.318/.407, though I guess that's better than last year.

RBA
07-06-2010, 06:42 PM
Austin Kearns is batting .269 .358 .414 .772 with 7 homeruns in Cleveland.

Jpup
07-06-2010, 06:55 PM
Josh Hamilton is still a beast. .340/.385/.613/.998 20 HR 61 RBI Hamilton had a hit in every game during the month of June.

blumj
07-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Robert Manuel is up with the Red Sox, he's only pitched an inning in a blowout so far, while Ramon A Ramirez is on the Pawsox DL. Mike Cameron's playing part time with a torn abdominal muscle, and playing about as well as you'd expect someone in his condition to be playing, hitting .255/.311/.345 with shaky defense. Darnell McDonald's been losing a little playing time to Eric Patterson, brother of Corey, who's back with the Orioles, so we had a nice little Patterson brothers reunion series at Fenway last week.

RBA
07-06-2010, 07:05 PM
WMP has a World Series Ring. :eek::D


Wily Mo Pena, OF, Bridgeport Bluefish The big guy is trying to resurrect his career in the independent Atlantic League, platooning at first base and DH with former major leaguer Josh Phelps. Pena, who has lost 25 pounds, has six homers and 29 RBIs in 32 games. Pena told freelance writer Ken Powtak, I was just waiting at home for a couple of teams. They said, We just want to see you play. I said, Ill go anywhere to play. . . . Im just here to play, to do the best I can. I play every day. Ive been working out a lot and doing a lot of running. Pena still carries around his 2007 World Series ring with the Red Sox. Its in my locker . . . Thats a special memory of 07. I take it with me everywhere I go. That was a special time for me.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2010/07/04/baird_made_sure_sox_cupboard_wasnt_bare/?page=full

blumj
07-06-2010, 07:08 PM
WMP has a World Series Ring. :eek::D



http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2010/07/04/baird_made_sure_sox_cupboard_wasnt_bare/?page=full
Yep, he got traded during the '07 season, even guys who got called up from the minors for a day during the season get one. At least from the Red Sox, I don't know if all teams do that.

mth123
07-06-2010, 07:27 PM
Chris Denorfia in SD .266/327/.309in a little over 100 PAs.

camisadelgolf
07-06-2010, 08:47 PM
A few more:
Cody Ross is having another solid year in Florida.
Jeff Stevens is still struggling a little for the Cubs.
Felipe Lopez is having a decent year as a utility player with the Cardinals, and Jason LaRue is still struggling a bit. Meanwhile, Kyle Lohse is doing poorly and battling injury.
Brendan Harris is having a disastrous year for the Twins.
Grant Balfour is having a great year in Tampa.

VR
07-06-2010, 11:48 PM
chris denorfia in sd .266/327/.309in a little over 100 pas.

he is who we thought he was

RBA
07-07-2010, 12:33 AM
Ryan Franklin blew a game tonight where the Rockies came back from 9-3 deficit. Ryan Franklin was part the Greatest Comeback win in Rockies history.

RBA
07-07-2010, 01:06 AM
Ryan Franklin blew a game tonight where the Rockies came back from 9-3 deficit. Ryan Franklin was part the Greatest Comeback win in Rockies history.


Dennys Reyes also part of that 9th inning meltdown.

Ron Madden
07-07-2010, 05:33 AM
WMP has a World Series Ring. :eek::D

He knows how to win. ;)

Ron Madden
07-07-2010, 05:35 AM
I love this thread. Thanks TRF. :thumbup:

TRF
07-07-2010, 08:54 AM
Corey Patterson is having such a good year (for him) that I picked him up for my fantasy team.

I feel dirty.

I really think the Reds should feel screwed by Balfour. They rehabbed him after his injury only for him to walk away once healthy. He's been very good for TB the last three years.

Cody Ross was a Red for about 5 minutes.

WMP is tearing up the Atlantic League, kinda. .311 .338 .504. He still has that power.

BTW, Danny Serafini is also on the Bluefish team: 10 IP 3.60 ERA.

bucksfan2
07-07-2010, 09:26 AM
I have a feeling you can start a thread about this for every team in MLB.

Ghosts of 1990
07-07-2010, 09:34 AM
How about Elmer Dessens? He's pitching like Arthur Rhodes out of the Mets pen.

RichRed
07-07-2010, 09:46 AM
Corey Patterson is having such a good year (for him) that I picked him up for my fantasy team.


That can't end well.

TRF
07-07-2010, 09:56 AM
I have a feeling you can start a thread about this for every team in MLB.

well, duh. but I don't root for the Giants, Tigers, Braves....

And I thought it would be interesting to see how some ex-Reds were doing.

_Sir_Charles_
07-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Dane Sardinha has hit 3 hr's in the past 2 weeks. .250/.273/.594/.866 (only with the Phils since June 23)

Sea Ray
07-07-2010, 05:04 PM
I have a feeling you can start a thread about this for every team in MLB.

I think you could nearly fill an All Star team of ex Indians and Mariners

Ron Madden
07-08-2010, 05:12 AM
Adam Dunn 280/367/572/939 not too shabby.

Sea Ray
07-08-2010, 10:47 AM
Adam Dunn 280/367/572/939 not too shabby.

If only he had those numbers as a Red

TRF
07-08-2010, 10:48 AM
If only he had those numbers as a Red

He had better numbers as a Red. Just a lower BA. OBP and SLG both higher.

Danny Serafini
07-08-2010, 11:01 AM
BTW, Danny Serafini is also on the Bluefish team: 10 IP 3.60 ERA.

That guy needs to pick a team and stick with it, I'm always two stops behind on my location. :laugh:

Also noticed another former Red on that team, Esteban Yan (15 innings in 2006), though he's on their inactive list.

Sea Ray
07-08-2010, 11:06 AM
He had better numbers as a Red. Just a lower BA. OBP and SLG both higher.

His BA and SLG is much higher in 2010 than his career avg. Granted his BB are way down

TRF
07-08-2010, 11:24 AM
His BA and SLG is much higher in 2010 than his career avg. Granted his BB are way down

You could make that case for dozens of players. Dunn in 2007: .264 .386 .554 .940

Pretty much the same line no?

Dunn in 2004: .266 .388 .569 .957

That's better than his line this year.

Sea Ray
07-08-2010, 12:10 PM
You could make that case for dozens of players. Dunn in 2007: .264 .386 .554 .940

Pretty much the same line no?

Dunn in 2004: .266 .388 .569 .957

That's better than his line this year.

OK, so two of his Cin Reds yrs were better. Is that your point?

TRF
07-08-2010, 04:47 PM
My point is guys have years all the time that eclipse their careers in a specific city.

You should kinda know that by now.

CTA513
07-08-2010, 04:58 PM
More doubles is whats helping his SLG and he's on pace to break his career high in doubles this season.

blumj
07-08-2010, 07:13 PM
Hey, do you guys remember Robert Coello? I didn't know he was drafted by the Reds as a catcher. He's been pitching really well for the PawSox, one of those "cool story" guys.

camisadelgolf
07-09-2010, 01:07 AM
Hey, do you guys remember Robert Coello? I didn't know he was drafted by the Reds as a catcher. He's been pitching really well for the PawSox, one of those "cool story" guys.
He was drafted by the Reds but never signed. It happens all the time. John Axford, Jake Arrieta, Lance Cormier, Terrmel Sledge, and Rich Hill are some of the more recent major leaguers to be drafted by the Reds without signing.

fearofpopvol1
07-09-2010, 01:22 AM
Jorge Cantu has been pretty good since leaving the Reds.

VR
07-09-2010, 02:03 AM
Josh Hamilton has been on a freakish pace the last month +.

.345/.390/.633 now after a 3-4 night with a dinger and two more doubles

blumj
07-09-2010, 06:37 AM
He was drafted by the Reds but never signed. It happens all the time. John Axford, Jake Arrieta, Lance Cormier, Terrmel Sledge, and Rich Hill are some of the more recent major leaguers to be drafted by the Reds without signing.

Thanks, I misunderstood, and assumed he'd actually been in the system, I should have looked it up.

VR
07-20-2010, 10:04 PM
Josh Hamilton now batting .440 since June 1st. Sick.

SirFelixCat
07-20-2010, 10:14 PM
Discussing Hamilton, I still make that trade and twice on Sundays.

RedsManRick
07-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Denorfia hit HR #5 tonight. He's hitting .280/.336/.441. Maybe he is who we thought he was.

VR
07-20-2010, 11:22 PM
Discussing Hamilton, I still make that trade and twice on Sundays.

Yeah, didn't update his stats for that discussion. Just nice to see.

Benihana
07-20-2010, 11:43 PM
He was drafted by the Reds but never signed. It happens all the time. John Axford, Jake Arrieta, Lance Cormier, Terrmel Sledge, and Rich Hill are some of the more recent major leaguers to be drafted by the Reds without signing.

Don't forget Nick Markakis, Colin Curtis, and Jeremy Sowers.

A few notables who didn't sign but also never panned out are Andy D'Alessio, Marc Cornell, and Blake Stouffer.

Ron Madden
07-21-2010, 02:35 AM
Denorfia hit HR #5 tonight. He's hitting .280/.336/.441. Maybe he is who we thought he was.

Deno is also a pretty darn good defensive outfielder. Glad to see him on a major leage roster. I'll always root for him. :thumbup:

Benihana
07-21-2010, 02:50 AM
Deno is also a pretty darn good defensive outfielder. Glad to see him on a major leage roster. I'll always root for him. :thumbup:

Chris Denorfia is part of the Ben Broussard All-Stars, otherwise known as the All-Redszone Overrated Club. Adam Rosales might get the call someday as well, although he's presumably not as much of a franchise player on that team.

Ron Madden
07-21-2010, 02:57 AM
Chris Denorfia is part of the Ben Broussard All-Stars, otherwise known as the All-Redszone Overrated Club. Adam Rosales might get the call someday as well, although he's presumably not as much of a franchise player on that team.

I'm not saying he should start just that he could be valuable as a 4th/5th OFer.

I like him and will root for him to do well.

RedsManRick
07-21-2010, 01:51 PM
I just saw Gary Majewski got DFA'd by Houston. That didn't take long.

Chip R
07-21-2010, 01:54 PM
I just saw Gary Majewski got DFA'd by Houston. That didn't take long.

Dang. I was hoping he'd stick around through the weekend.

cumberlandreds
07-21-2010, 01:56 PM
I saw that Castro was waived by the Phillies over the weekend.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-phillies-polanco

smith288
07-21-2010, 03:48 PM
Chris Denorfia is part of the Ben Broussard All-Stars, otherwise known as the All-Redszone Overrated Club. Adam Rosales might get the call someday as well, although he's presumably not as much of a franchise player on that team.
That is SOOO true. Heisey might be the newest one but I have better vibes from him than previous RZ love fests.

TRF
07-21-2010, 03:55 PM
Broussard so deserved it. Guy hit 54 HR's combined in one calendar year, college and minor leagues. I was envisioning a hitting beast in the making.

Does anyone know if SD has actually signed WMP yet?

Big Klu
07-21-2010, 05:59 PM
That is SOOO true. Heisey might be the newest one but I have better vibes from him than previous RZ love fests.

Same here. I like Heisey--he looks like he could be a good fourth OF, and maybe OK as a third OF, if necessary. The vibe I'm getting from him is Tracy Jones, minus the arrogant attitude.

Chris Denorfia was another Steve Gibralter, Chad Mottola, Mike Frank, or Pat Watkins--with a ceiling of Brady Clark.

Ron Madden
07-22-2010, 04:45 AM
Same here. I like Heisey--he looks like he could be a good fourth OF, and maybe OK as a third OF, if necessary. The vibe I'm getting from him is Tracy Jones, minus the arrogant attitude.

Chris Denorfia was another Steve Gibralter, Chad Mottola, Mike Frank, or Pat Watkins--with a ceiling of Brady Clark.

Deno is better than Jones was and I believe Heisey will be better than both Jones or Denorfia. :)

REDREAD
07-23-2010, 12:30 AM
More doubles is whats helping his SLG and he's on pace to break his career high in doubles this season.

They said on the radio that Dunn was being more aggressive at the plate, trying to get hits instead of walks. IMO, considering he is a middle of the order bat, not a leadoff hitter, I'd prefer him to sacrifice some OBP for a higher batting average. (Walks seldom drive in runs) In my opinion, this is definitely one of his better years.

REDREAD
07-23-2010, 12:32 AM
I saw that Castro was waived by the Phillies over the weekend.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-phillies-polanco

I wondered what that cry of anguish from Marty was all about.. I could hear him weeping all the way up here :lol: Marty had a cult-like admiration of Castro.. I guess he was polite and knew his place around the "Hall of Famer" :lol:

RedsManRick
07-23-2010, 01:27 AM
Chris Denorfia is part of the Ben Broussard All-Stars, otherwise known as the All-Redszone Overrated Club. Adam Rosales might get the call someday as well, although he's presumably not as much of a franchise player on that team.

I'm not sure where people got the idea that us Broussard, Clark, Denorfia, Roslaes, etc. booster club people ever expected more than serviceable performance for cheap. The "franchise player' line is a ridiculous straw-man.

The argument was almost always that it made more sense to give these guys playing time rather than paying a few million bucks to bring in some "proven vet" who, in reality, was no better. They were the Jordan Smith and Matt Maloney alternatives to their Mike Lincoln and Kip Wells alternatives of their times.

KronoRed
07-23-2010, 01:48 AM
I'm not sure where people got the idea that us Broussard, Clark, Denorfia, Roslaes, etc. booster club people ever expected more than serviceable performance for cheap. The "franchise player' line is a ridiculous straw-man.

The argument was almost always that it made more sense to give these guys playing time rather than paying a few million bucks to bring in some "proven vet" who, in reality, was no better. They were the Jordan Smith and Matt Maloney alternatives to their Mike Lincoln and Kip Wells alternatives of their times.

Nicely stated :)

Ron Madden
07-23-2010, 02:26 AM
I'm not sure where people got the idea that us Broussard, Clark, Denorfia, Roslaes, etc. booster club people ever expected more than serviceable performance for cheap. The "franchise player' line is a ridiculous straw-man.

The argument was almost always that it made more sense to give these guys playing time rather than paying a few million bucks to bring in some "proven vet" who, in reality, was no better. They were the Jordan Smith and Matt Maloney alternatives to their Mike Lincoln and Kip Wells alternatives of their times.


Well said, and the whole story in a nutshell. :thumbup:

reds44
07-23-2010, 02:53 AM
For the most part I agree, but the outcry for Denorfia was more than just "serviceable for cheap."

He was supposedly going to be a GG CF with a really good OBP. That's more than just "serviceable."

cincinnati chili
07-23-2010, 03:03 AM
I saw that Castro was waived by the Phillies over the weekend.


http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-phillies-polanco


That should bring the Phillies a winning streak per M2's classic Castro-is-a-curse rant from years ago.

Has anyone mentioned that Bruce Chen managed to wipe the ketchup off his McDonald's apron and land another big league job?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?playerId=3926

Dude is still only 33 years old and on team #10. It seems like several decades ago that John Rocker was citing him as proof that he wasn't racist because Rocker had had allowed him into his house for dinner.

reds44
07-23-2010, 03:26 AM
The first Reds game I ever attended was Bruce Chen vs. Barry Zito at half imploded Cinegy. You can imagine how that one turned out.

camisadelgolf
07-23-2010, 11:00 AM
The first Reds game I ever attended was Bruce Chen vs. Barry Zito at half imploded Cinegy. You can imagine how that one turned out.
A fully imploded Cinergy?

REDREAD
07-23-2010, 11:24 AM
For the most part I agree, but the outcry for Denorfia was more than just "serviceable for cheap."

He was supposedly going to be a GG CF with a really good OBP. That's more than just "serviceable."

I agree with this.. I think support for Broussard and the other guys was exaggerated, but Deno was hyped up to be like Stubbs (except with high OBP instead of power).. Definitely thought of as a starting player.

oregonred
07-23-2010, 11:27 PM
Broussard had the most dissapointing career vs. the hype. Essentially out of the game by 31 after not joining the show until he was 26. A pedestrian .324 lifetime OBP and only 3 years as a MLB starter for more than 70% of the season.

Granted the Mayor flamed out after 2005, but I think most thought Ben would have at least average MLB 1B production over the 2004-2010 timeframe.

The good news is the emergence of Votto as a star makes it all moot.

reds44
07-23-2010, 11:44 PM
A fully imploded Cinergy?
Casey hit a three run homer and the fireworks they set started a fire on the roof. True story.

kaldaniels
07-23-2010, 11:55 PM
I'm not sure where people got the idea that us Broussard, Clark, Denorfia, Roslaes, etc. booster club people ever expected more than serviceable performance for cheap. The "franchise player' line is a ridiculous straw-man.

The argument was almost always that it made more sense to give these guys playing time rather than paying a few million bucks to bring in some "proven vet" who, in reality, was no better. They were the Jordan Smith and Matt Maloney alternatives to their Mike Lincoln and Kip Wells alternatives of their times.

Speaking on behalf of myself, I viewed the franchise player remark as a joke...not to be taken seriously. Not a franchise player in terms of an actual franchise player, but one on the "overrated team". Only Benihana knows for sure.

Scrap Irony
07-23-2010, 11:55 PM
Broussard, Denorfia, and others (Roberto Petagine, for one) were all mentioned not only as starters in Cincinnati, but as above average major league players and possible All Stars.

Heisey has become an 800+ OPS bat playing a solid, above average CF or corner spot. (That would be Jay Bruce territory-- and better.)

Anyone that exhibits a modicum of minor league patience and isn't immediately brought up to Cincinnati as a starter is proclaimed as somehow being kept back by the backward Red front office.

That's okay.

Were the internet around in the 70's, Rettemund, Zachary, Flynn, and others would have been adored.

It's the classic back-up QB situation. Everybody loved him. Until he plays.

Ron Madden
07-24-2010, 03:50 AM
Broussard, Denorfia, and others (Roberto Petagine, for one) were all mentioned not only as starters in Cincinnati, but as above average major league players and possible All Stars.

Heisey has become an 800+ OPS bat playing a solid, above average CF or corner spot. (That would be Jay Bruce territory-- and better.)

Anyone that exhibits a modicum of minor league patience and isn't immediately brought up to Cincinnati as a starter is proclaimed as somehow being kept back by the backward Red front office.

That's okay.

Were the internet around in the 70's, Rettemund, Zachary, Flynn, and others would have been adored.

It's the classic back-up QB situation. Everybody loved him. Until he plays.

I doubt that. :laugh:

GAC
07-24-2010, 08:19 AM
Wow! I didn't know that Brandon Larson and I share the same B-Day (May 24th). Last I heard, he was playing for the Somerset Patriots of the Atlantic League.

WebScorpion
07-24-2010, 01:15 PM
Speaking on behalf of myself, I viewed the franchise player remark as a joke...not to be taken seriously. Not a franchise player in terms of an actual franchise player, but one on the "overrated team". Only Benihana knows for sure.
I also thought a lot of the Deno hype was tongue-in-cheek. He became sort of a mini-Jim Coombs type of hero... the RedsZone version of Chuck Norris. :thumbup:

Joseph
07-24-2010, 01:21 PM
The first Reds game I ever attended was Bruce Chen vs. Barry Zito at half imploded Cinegy. You can imagine how that one turned out.

Wasn't that the day after Darryl Kile passed away? I was there too. Seems like the A's won something along the lines of 10-3?

Orenda
07-24-2010, 01:53 PM
As far as Deno goes, for me the argument was always that he was better than Ryan Freel and less costly. BTW, anybody ever look at Deno's career numbers? 281/352/403 with a .755 OPS. Not an All-Star but definitely worthy of a MLB uniform.

The flipside to that argument is that he has only been able to get 380 major league plate appearances, which is a shame because the "the-all overated redszone" folks like myself never got a chance to see what he could have done over a full season. Also don't forget the guy has already tore up his knee once; the fact that he is still in the game and playing is a testament to the guy's resilience.

Ron Madden
07-25-2010, 10:17 AM
I also thought a lot of the Deno hype was tongue-in-cheek. He became sort of a mini-Jim Coombs type of hero... the RedsZone version of Chuck Norris. :thumbup:

Exactly.

Big Klu
07-25-2010, 02:59 PM
I also thought a lot of the Deno hype was tongue-in-cheek. He became sort of a mini-Jim Coombs type of hero... the RedsZone version of Chuck Norris. :thumbup:

I know that seems to be the popular thing to say now, but there is nothing that can convince me that the Chris Denorfia hype from 4-5 years ago was anything other than totally legit.

As for me, I thought that he could pan out as a fourth or fifth OF in the Brady Clark mold, but he could just as easily wash out and be another Steve Gibralter, Chad Mottola, Mike Frank, or Pat Watkins. I always hoped for the former, as I tend to be optimistic about the Reds.

Ron Madden
07-26-2010, 02:40 AM
As of today Deno is hitting 287/349/463 with a 812 OPS. He has 6 HRs and 13 RBI in his last 11 games.

I'm happy for him. :thumbup:

OesterPoster
07-26-2010, 02:25 PM
Wily Mo with a big night for the Portland Beavers.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100726&content_id=12642534&vkey=news_t248&fext=.jsp&sid=t248



On a historic offensive night, the Portland Beavers set modern franchise records (since 2001) with 21 runs scored and 32 hits as Wily Mo Pena and Kyle Phillips each tallied five hits in a 21-4 win over the Las Vegas 51s at Cashman Field

Three Beavers tallied three hits, three had four hits, and Phillips and Pena each went 5-for-6 with four RBIs while logging only the 15thand 16th five-hit games in franchise history. No Beaver had scored four runs in a game in 2010 until Sunday night when Cedric Hunter, Craig Stansberry and Mike Baxter each accomplished the feat.

Also, not a former Red, but the winning pitcher was a "Local" kid and former Buckeye, Cory Luebke.

jojo
07-26-2010, 02:46 PM
Chris Denorfia in SD .266/327/.309in a little over 100 PAs.

Small sample size theater but now in 153 PAs he's doing this: .287/.349/.463; OPS=.812 and wOBA=.350 (mlb ave=.330)...He's also rated as a +1 glove via UZR.

Cyclone792
07-26-2010, 03:01 PM
I know that seems to be the popular thing to say now, but there is nothing that can convince me that the Chris Denorfia hype from 4-5 years ago was anything other than totally legit.

The Denorfia wagon was legit, and it was for good reason. The folks who liked Denorfia - myself included - thought he represented a good chance to post a pretty decent OBP (.350ish) and play a pretty decent center field (plus glove). He represented a good chance to put up a type of production with two valuable skill sets that would have been very worthwhile value during his league minimum salary years, and that is precisely why myself and others liked him.

What's lost in all this is Ryan Hanigan is cut from almost the identical cloth as Denorfia. Good on base skills and good defense at a premier position. The only difference is Hanigan got a chance here, probably because the organization had no other catchers, while Denorfia didn't get much of a chance.

And I don't see anybody complaining about Ryan Hanigan.

camisadelgolf
07-26-2010, 03:18 PM
And I don't see anybody complaining about Ryan Hanigan.
People usually wait until the player signs a multi-year deal before complaining about a guy like Hanigan. ;)

RBA
07-29-2010, 07:50 PM
Dustin Mosely last minute start for the Yankees tonight. He down 1-0 after two innings.

RBA
07-29-2010, 08:35 PM
Austin Kearns just singled back up the middle off Mosely in the bot 4th. Game is tied 1-1.

reds44
07-29-2010, 10:19 PM
Wasn't that the day after Darryl Kile passed away? I was there too. Seems like the A's won something along the lines of 10-3?
Actually yes it was. I remember watching that in my hotel room before the game.

Final was 10-3.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN200206220.shtml

Look how bad our lineup was preforming.

RBA
07-29-2010, 10:37 PM
Moseley goes 6 innings gives up 1 run on 4 hits 2 base on balls and 4 k's. He should get the win as the Yankees are up 11 to 1 in bot 8th.

HokieRed
07-31-2010, 01:12 PM
Justin Germano made his first appearance for the Indians last night, went 2.2 scoreless, 1 h/ 1W /3K's. Had made 17 apps. at Columbus, including 6 starts, ERA 3.38, 1.11 WHIP. Wonder if he gets another chance in a rotation now with the Trible.

blumj
08-10-2010, 01:25 PM
Did everyone else already know that Royce Clayton is playing Miguel Tejada in the Moneyball movie?

OnBaseMachine
08-18-2010, 01:22 AM
He's not an ex-Red but I just feel like making a comment on Jim Thome and I thought it would fit better in here. Jim Thome hit a walk-off 2-run HR against the White Sox tonight to extend the Twins lead to four games over the White Sox in the AL Central. Thome, at the age of 39, has hit 17 home runs in 209 atbats this season and is OPSing .985. I love watching that guy hit. He's had a great career - 581 homers, a career line of .277/.404/.557 - .961 OPS, and over 1,660 walks. As great of a hitter as he is, he seems to be an even better person. He's someone I've never suspected of steroid usage and is an easy guy to root for. He's clearly a Hall of Famer, IMO.

oneupper
08-18-2010, 06:47 AM
Maybe I'm just a very suspicious guy, but Thome is someone who I would have suspected of steriod use.

edabbs44
08-18-2010, 06:53 AM
Maybe I'm just a very suspicious guy, but Thome is someone who I would have suspected of steriod use.

He wouldn't be my first round pick in the steroid draft, but he's definitely under suspicion.

Cyclone792
08-18-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm catching the tail end of the Blue Jays/A's game on MLB Network, and two ex-Reds had a showing. Edwin Encarnacion walked to load the bases in the top of the 9th, and the Jays immediately lifted Encarnacion for pinch runner DeWayne Wise.

It's interesting to note that since being traded, Encarnacion's walks (and OBP) have dried up a bit. His IsoD is way down, but is IsoP is a bit higher. Perhaps it's the Blue Jay swing-for-the-fence approach remolding Edwin a bit, who knows.

Meanwhile, Chris Denorfia has effectively taken Tony Gwynn's center field job from him. In fact, since the ASB, Denorfia is hitting .321/.385/.654/1.039 in 91 plate appearances (excluding today's 1-3 effort). For the season, Denorfia's at .284/.346/.474/.820 in 218 plate appearances (includes today's 1-3 effort). Once he's gotten a chance to play, it looks like Denorfia truly is who we thought we was. With the Reds still having a Padres series looming, we'll likely be seeing a bit of Denorfia.

blumj
08-18-2010, 06:48 PM
Darnell McDonald destroyed someone's windshield in the parking garage across from Fenway last night, then a bunch a kids kept hanging around trying to figure out how to get the ball out of the car. They must have showed the video in the stadium, because McDonald was cracking up in the dugout. I don't know if any of this made any of the national highlights, but it was pretty funny.

kaldaniels
08-18-2010, 07:33 PM
He wouldn't be my first round pick in the steroid draft, but he's definitely under suspicion.

I agree...personally I had him as a late first-rounder, early second. :D

mth123
08-18-2010, 08:09 PM
I think Thome is about as likely to be clean as anyone.

15fan
08-19-2010, 10:30 AM
Dustin Moseley with 5 IP / 4 ER and the W last night for the Yankees.

OnBaseMachine
08-19-2010, 11:42 AM
Darnell McDonald destroyed someone's windshield in the parking garage across from Fenway last night, then a bunch a kids kept hanging around trying to figure out how to get the ball out of the car. They must have showed the video in the stadium, because McDonald was cracking up in the dugout. I don't know if any of this made any of the national highlights, but it was pretty funny.

I'm glad to see Darnell having some success, he seems like a great dude. He's actually having a decent season - .270/.335/.440 - .775 OPS.

SMcGavin
08-19-2010, 11:51 AM
Denorfia is crushing it, 131 OPS+. UZR has him down as a hack in CF though, what's the story there? Have things changed from his Cincinnati days?

Orenda
08-20-2010, 02:40 PM
Matt Belisle is having an awesome year.

73ip 2.21 era/1.06 whip/ 78ks...His peripheral numbers are impressive as well. 8.0 h/9, .4 hr/9, 1.6 bb/9, 9.6 so/9.

TRF
08-20-2010, 02:47 PM
Denorfia is crushing it, 131 OPS+. UZR has him down as a hack in CF though, what's the story there? Have things changed from his Cincinnati days?

He's in SD right? big field.

VR
08-20-2010, 02:55 PM
I'm glad Deno, Belisle and McDonald are having good years, I liked them all. Glad they went when they went, but good to see them having success.

Orenda
08-20-2010, 03:14 PM
Did everyone else already know that Royce Clayton is playing Miguel Tejada in the Moneyball movie?

Nope didn't know that. I wasn't sure if that movie was going to be made. Who is playing Joe Morgan's opinions?

Ron Madden
08-21-2010, 09:25 PM
Dodgers DFA Jaun Castro.

membengal
08-30-2010, 03:57 PM
From today's ESPN power rankings:


Chris Denorfia is hitting .315/.389/.604 and has as many home runs (seven) as Matt Holliday and Alex Rodriguez since the All-Star break.

Glad to see Denorfia getting a chance to play and having success.

Roy Tucker
08-30-2010, 04:07 PM
I heard that Bruce Chen won his 9th game for the Royals yesterday.

oneupper
08-30-2010, 04:16 PM
I heard that Bruce Chen won his 9th game for the Royals yesterday.

Bruce Chen was like Pete Best with the Beatles. He was never a REAL RED. :D

blumj
08-30-2010, 04:20 PM
I heard that Bruce Chen won his 9th game for the Royals yesterday.

Bruce Chen probably gets more mentions in every fanbase's versions of this thread than anyone else in MLB.

Edit: Darnell McDonald wiped out 2 Tampa Rays at the plate from CF this weekend.

Roy Tucker
08-30-2010, 04:35 PM
Chen is getting up there close to Mike Morgan and Ron Villone in teams played for.

sivman17
08-30-2010, 11:30 PM
Chris Dickerson grounded out to 2nd base in a pinch hit AB tonight against the Cincinnati Reds.

blumj
08-31-2010, 04:40 PM
Robert Manuel called up to the Red Sox.

Ron Madden
09-05-2010, 06:29 PM
Adam Dunn hit his 350th career Home Run today. :thumbup:

Sea Ray
09-07-2010, 04:48 PM
Adam Dunn hit his 350th career Home Run today. :thumbup:

Did he play for the Reds? :confused:

Oh yeah...I think I remember him now...

blumj
09-07-2010, 09:34 PM
So, things not going too well for Robert Manuel, he walks 2 guys with the bases loaded his first appearance, gives up 3 HRs in 1.1 IP in his second.

NJReds
06-14-2011, 12:26 PM
Had to bump this thread to post this photo of Todd Coffey in his Nats throwback uni.

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/d1/d1fe3e84c9f42fc7fe0aedaccb689d62/photo_todd_coffeys_throwback_uniform_warns_of_comi ng_flood.jpg

Link to Yahoo sports story. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Photo-Todd-Coffey-8217-s-throwback-uniform-war;_ylt=Avjuj4xYB.bsLwCRNBhrUpYRvLYF?urn=mlb-wp9304)

15fan
06-14-2011, 01:07 PM
I didn't realize Coffey was pregnant.

cumberlandreds
06-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Coffey and Laynce Nix are having very good seasons with the Nationals. I saw those uniforms the other day. It wasn't good to Coffey to say the least.

Reds Freak
06-14-2011, 02:56 PM
Not ever a Red technically, but saw on MLB Trade Rumors that the Blue Jays selected the contract of Zach Stewart today...

reds44
06-14-2011, 02:59 PM
I didn't realize Coffey was pregnant.
LOL this got me good.

Orenda
06-15-2011, 05:55 PM
Had to bump this thread to post this photo of Todd Coffey in his Nats throwback uni.

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/d1/d1fe3e84c9f42fc7fe0aedaccb689d62/photo_todd_coffeys_throwback_uniform_warns_of_comi ng_flood.jpg

Link to Yahoo sports story. (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Photo-Todd-Coffey-8217-s-throwback-uniform-war;_ylt=Avjuj4xYB.bsLwCRNBhrUpYRvLYF?urn=mlb-wp9304)

i saw that picture and thought his name was robert paulson

thatcoolguy_22
06-16-2011, 02:28 AM
i saw that picture and thought his name was robert paulson

:laugh: well played, ;)

_Sir_Charles_
06-16-2011, 04:10 PM
I haven't seen him mentioned yet, but Laynce Nix is doing quite well this season.

.295/.333/.538/.872 in around 150 ab's.

I was a bit upset when we didn't resign him. I thought he brought quite a bit to the table. Nice defense as well. I also miss all the "Y" references in the game threads. :O)

Ron Madden
06-17-2011, 04:07 AM
It looks like Zach Stewart did a fine job in his MLB debute.

cumberlandreds
06-17-2011, 09:43 AM
I haven't seen him mentioned yet, but Laynce Nix is doing quite well this season.

.295/.333/.538/.872 in around 150 ab's.

I was a bit upset when we didn't resign him. I thought he brought quite a bit to the table. Nice defense as well. I also miss all the "Y" references in the game threads. :O)

Yes he is having a good season. I would have taken him instead of Lewis. I thought he did well last season. It was unfortunate he was hurt for a long stretch. I thought he and Gomes had a good platoon going.

LvJ
06-18-2011, 12:13 AM
Brewers just DFA'd Danny Ray after two appearances.

VR
06-18-2011, 12:27 AM
Brewers just DFA'd Danny Ray after two appearances.

The Danny Ray Herrerra "Help the Reds make the playoffs" is back on the road. Hopefully StL is next.......followed by Atlanta and Philly.

RichRed
06-22-2011, 07:40 AM
Bunch of ex-Reds figured in decisions last night: Matt Belisle and Todd Coffey picked up wins, Grant Balfour got a save, and Zach Stewart and Enerio Del Rosario each took a loss.

mbgrayson
06-22-2011, 08:03 AM
The Danny Ray Herrerra "Help the Reds make the playoffs" is back on the road. Hopefully StL is next.......followed by Atlanta and Philly.

From MLB TradeRumors:
"The Brewers outrighted Danny Ray Herrera (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/herreda01.shtml) to Triple-A Nashville, according to MLB.com's transactions page (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/?tcid=mm_mlb_players#month=6&year=2011). They designated (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/brewers-designate-danny-ray-herrera-for-assignment.html) the left-hander for assignment on Saturday."

My understnding is that this means he either cleared waivers, or had options left.

JaxRed
06-22-2011, 08:19 AM
It means he cleared waivers

cinreds21
06-22-2011, 01:46 PM
And he's no longer on the Brewers' 40-man roster.

mth123
06-22-2011, 07:28 PM
And he's no longer on the Brewers' 40-man roster.

Smart Brewers.

Tom Servo
07-01-2011, 02:12 PM
Ramon Ortiz going to get called up by the Cubs, you just can't get rid of the guy.

RedLegsToday
07-01-2011, 02:18 PM
I was looking at box scores the other day and saw the name Dumatrait... I thought, that can't possibly be the former Red Phil Dumatrait! Well, it is. He's back, and playing with the Twins. Through June 8 he had a 2.00 era! Missed 14 days, and in his 3 appearances since, he's given up 6er in 3.1 IP, raising his era to 5.84. That's the Phil Dumatrait I remember!