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GOYA
07-17-2010, 06:22 PM
Swine @ Bats

Matthews CF .325
Cozart SS .260
Alonso 1B .267
Francisco 3B .278
Dickerson LF .667
Dorn RF .320
Valaika 2B .288
Castillo C .254
Reineke P .125


0-0 in the 2nd

muddie
07-17-2010, 06:45 PM
Chattanooga at Carolina is a delayed start due to anticipated rain. Matt Fairel gets the start for Carolina.

Just got this...

IF Eric Eymann has been placed on the disabled list with a sprained right thumb, an injury sustained in the 10th inning last night against Montgomery in a collision with third base umpire Tripp Gibson.

The Mudcats currently have a 23-man roster heading into tonight's game.

DISABLE: IF Eymann, Eric (To DL)

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:10 PM
1-0 Bats after 4

Dickerson scored after a double and a Valaika single.

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:14 PM
Player IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
Reineke 5.0 2 0 0 0 2 0 2.86



Pitches-strikes: Reineke 42-29

muddie
07-17-2010, 07:17 PM
Mudcats under way at 7:15. Fairel walks the first batter, gotta' love it.

muddie
07-17-2010, 07:21 PM
Mudcats under way at 7:15. Fairel walks the first batter, gotta' love it.

Check that, K'd the leadoff hitter.

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:24 PM
1-1 in the 6th on a Swine HR

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:31 PM
2-1 Swine

muddie
07-17-2010, 07:45 PM
Mez puts one out, Mudcats up 1-0. Ball stayed just inside left field foul pole.

Reported: Terry Reynolds in town the last several days for the purpose of observing Mez.

muddie
07-17-2010, 07:53 PM
Kris Negron puts Carolina up 4-0 with his 7th HR of the year.

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:56 PM
4-1 Swine in the 7th

GOYA
07-17-2010, 07:56 PM
Another HR

5-1 Swine

muddie
07-17-2010, 08:03 PM
6-0 Mudcats after two after Constanzo drives in two. Mez flew out to the warning track to end the 2nd.

GOYA
07-17-2010, 08:13 PM
Russ Springer in for the Bats in the 8th, relieving DRH.

11larkin11
07-17-2010, 08:15 PM
*Iron Swine

muddie
07-17-2010, 08:25 PM
6-1 Mudcats, middle of the 4th.

membengal
07-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Mez puts one out, Mudcats up 1-0. Ball stayed just inside left field foul pole.

Reported: Terry Reynolds in town the last several days for the purpose of observing Mez.

Reynolds:


Wow, he's good.

GIDP
07-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Mez puts one out, Mudcats up 1-0. Ball stayed just inside left field foul pole.

Reported: Terry Reynolds in town the last several days for the purpose of observing Mez.
You gotta start thinking AAA soon. It would be one thing if he was hitting in the low .900 to high .800 OPS range, but over 1.000? Its maybe time to push him up once again.

GIDP
07-17-2010, 08:46 PM
Reynolds:

HAHAHAHAHA

GOYA
07-17-2010, 09:00 PM
Bats lost 5-1

Box score stopped when Springer came in.

[Insert joke here]

GIDP
07-17-2010, 09:02 PM
Gameday seems to be broken across all of baseball.

muddie
07-17-2010, 09:08 PM
In the very little time Mez has been here he reminds me of Jason Kendall when he was here. Kendall exhuded confidence in his game and I see that in Mez as well. Mez dictates the tempo of the game from behind the plate well. I would really like to see him hang around for a while.

muddie
07-17-2010, 09:13 PM
6-4 Mudcats in the 6th.

Orenda
07-17-2010, 09:32 PM
You gotta start thinking AAA soon. It would be one thing if he was hitting in the low .900 to high .800 OPS range, but over 1.000? Its maybe time to push him up once again.

No offense but I got to say that I disagree with promoting Mes. What's the rush? Let the league try to catch up with him so he can continue to develop, if he finishes the year strongly he could still be in position to be called up next season.

dougdirt
07-17-2010, 09:39 PM
Dayton is down 13-0 after 6 innings.

membengal
07-17-2010, 10:33 PM
Looks like Yorman is 2 for 3 with an RBI and a run for Billings tonite.Billings up 3-2 in the 5th.

JayBruceFan
07-17-2010, 10:38 PM
In other news, J.C. Sulbaran is still terrible

GIDP
07-17-2010, 10:39 PM
No offense but I got to say that I disagree with promoting Mes. What's the rush? Let the league try to catch up with him so he can continue to develop, if he finishes the year strongly he could still be in position to be called up next season.

I'm simply saying maybe.

dougdirt
07-17-2010, 10:40 PM
In other news, J.C. Sulbaran is still terrible

Eh. He still clearly lacks concentration/desire to pitch day in and day out. He had been on a strong stretch over the last few games.

JayBruceFan
07-17-2010, 10:42 PM
How many seasons do you think they stick with him before they give up?

He can only ride that WBC strikeout of Ivan Rodriguez for so long.

GIDP
07-17-2010, 10:46 PM
How many seasons do you think they stick with him before they give up?

He can only ride that WBC strikeout of Ivan Rodriguez for so long.

I dont think they are basing their evaluations on a strike out of Ivan Rodriquez.

dougdirt
07-17-2010, 10:48 PM
How many seasons do you think they stick with him before they give up?

He can only ride that WBC strikeout of Ivan Rodriguez for so long.

The stuff is there. Its going to be up to him to commit to being the type of player he could be. The Reds just aren't going to give up on him for a while. He is 20 and has a real good arm. He just needs to mature some.

camisadelgolf
07-17-2010, 10:59 PM
How many seasons do you think they stick with him before they give up?

He can only ride that WBC strikeout of Ivan Rodriguez for so long.
The Reds should have given up on Logan Ondrusek when he was 23 years old, right? The guy's numbers were horrible, but he's only been the Reds' best reliever for more than the past month. At some point, you have to ignore the numbers and hang on to a player to see what can come of his potential.

Sulbaran strikes out more than a batter per inning, and you're implying the Reds should potentially give up on him soon? He's only 20 years old for crying out loud. Look at what Francisco Cordero or Nick Masset was doing as a 20-year-old in A-ball. It didn't look too promising. It's very common for a player to struggle at that age.

Sure, if Sulbaran can't cut it in A-ball in a couple years, consider giving him his walking papers, but in the meantime, you just have to ride out the struggles and hope for the best. He has way too much potential to just throw him away. I bet there are 29 other organizations in baseball that'd love to give him a chance.

corkedbat
07-17-2010, 11:00 PM
The stuff is there. Its going to be up to him to commit to being the type of player he could be. The Reds just aren't going to give up on him for a while. He is 20 and has a real good arm. He just needs to mature some.


Wonder if he can concentrate an inning a night? A closer possability?

dougdirt
07-17-2010, 11:03 PM
Wonder if he can concentrate an inning a night? A closer possability?

At this point you can't make that move though. First, there is just too much potential in him being a starter. Secondly, he needs all the innings he can get in order to work on his stuff.

mace
07-17-2010, 11:14 PM
After four innings (AZL Reds lead 6-4), Junior Arias is already 3 for 3 tonight, with a 3B. David Vidal, who hit 3 HR last night and drove in 8 runs, is 2 for 3 with a 2B and 2 RBIs. Some guy named Drew Poulk is playing LF and has two hits. Anybody know who he is?

camisadelgolf
07-17-2010, 11:18 PM
Some guy named Drew Poulk is playing LF and has two hits. Anybody know who he is?
He's a NDFA. He was signed a couple weeks ago.

REDblooded
07-17-2010, 11:24 PM
The stuff is there. Its going to be up to him to commit to being the type of player he could be. The Reds just aren't going to give up on him for a while. He is 20 and has a real good arm. He just needs to mature some.

Last time Doug acted this way towards a player, he turned in a freak season... Hi Mesoraco!

mace
07-17-2010, 11:34 PM
Billings, in the person of Josh Smith, gave up 2 in the bottom of the 9th to lose 5-4. The beat goes on.

(And thanks, camis.)

corkedbat
07-17-2010, 11:45 PM
At this point you can't make that move though. First, there is just too much potential in him being a starter. Secondly, he needs all the innings he can get in order to work on his stuff.

I agree and there's plenty of time for that move. I was just wondering if it is a realistic alternative (considering his stuff), should his struggles continue as a starter.

fearofpopvol1
07-18-2010, 01:49 AM
How many seasons do you think they stick with him before they give up?

He can only ride that WBC strikeout of Ivan Rodriguez for so long.

A lot of people felt this way about Travis Wood in 2007 and 2008. Then in 2009, he started putting it together and I think outside of Chapman, he's gotta be #2 on the prospect depth chart for Reds pitching at this point.

Point is, you have to give a pitcher time. If he's putting up junk like this 2 years from now with little-to-no progress, then I'd say we should be thinking more about his value (or lack thereof).

AWA85
07-18-2010, 09:52 AM
I was at the Dayton game last night and Sulbaran was not pretty. You can see the box score of tons of hits and lots of walks, but watching the game he just was not into it. Kind of walking around the mound looking around, laughing at how hard the ball was hit. Fan of the Burlington Bees seemed to get a few laughs out of his control issues. Not giving up on the kid yet, but the ball was flying off the bats of the Bees, NOTHING was fooling the hitters.

Balls and strikes seemed to be thrown real hard, but the control and the focus just wasn't there AT ALL. Pitching coach Fossas seemed to be just shaking his head in the first inning with JC. Kid has a nice arm, but more then a long way to go.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 11:19 AM
I'd rather have a minor league full of Sulbarans vs a minor league full of LeCures. It's all about developing the talent. Most aren't gonna cut it but the guys with stuff who do come through pay the big dividends.

bellhead
07-18-2010, 12:21 PM
A lot of people felt this way about Travis Wood in 2007 and 2008. Then in 2009, he started putting it together and I think outside of Chapman, he's gotta be #2 on the prospect depth chart for Reds pitching at this point.

Point is, you have to give a pitcher time. If he's putting up junk like this 2 years from now with little-to-no progress, then I'd say we should be thinking more about his value (or lack thereof).

Right now Wood is above Chapman as he is a MLB player and is dominating... Last start nine innings one hit shutout enough said...When Chapman throws his first shutout hit me up and I'll eat crow...

GIDP
07-18-2010, 12:40 PM
Right now Wood is above Chapman as he is a MLB player and is dominating... Last start nine innings one hit shutout enough said...When Chapman throws his first shutout hit me up and I'll eat crow...

That doesnt always mean the better prospect though.