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RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 12:33 PM
And the Reds have their "Sunday" Special out there... except for Janish isn't in the line up....


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Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 12:50 PM
Heisey should have gotten a start, IMO.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 01:07 PM
I'm worried about Scott Rolen missing another game. I really wish he had not played in the All Star game and taken the week off. I loved seeing him play, but we need him healthy the second half.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 01:14 PM
I like Bruce getting day off to clear his head. I also like Ryan getting a day off, I don't want him overworked into the ground. Dislike Janish STILL not getting any starts. 2 starts in a whole MONTH. Wow. Just pitiful. Personally, I'm starting to wish the Reds would trade Paul...just because I'm starting to feel sorry for him. Or heck, send him to Louisville. Let the kid freaking play!

pahster
07-18-2010, 01:22 PM
I'm worried about Scott Rolen missing another game. I really wish he had not played in the All Star game and taken the week off. I loved seeing him play, but we need him healthy the second half.

Isn't he just sick? I don't think the All Star game had anything to do with that.

Not sure what Heisey has to do to get into a game. Maybe knock .300 points off his OPS and hit left handed?

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 01:37 PM
Isn't he just sick? I don't think the All Star game had anything to do with that.

Not sure what Heisey has to do to get into a game. Maybe knock .300 points off his OPS and hit left handed?

Rolen is pretty sick from what they've said - Nothing to do with his back.... He'll be ready to play here in a few days.... :thumbup:

Degenerate39
07-18-2010, 01:42 PM
Rolen is pretty sick from what they've said - Nothing to do with his back.... He'll be ready to play here in a few days.... :thumbup:

You sure he's not sad ;)

wheels
07-18-2010, 01:47 PM
If Rolen's flu is as bad as mine, don't expect to see him until the middle of the week.

This is excruciating.

Edd Roush
07-18-2010, 01:59 PM
Let's hope Nix swings the bat like he did last night. I think 5 runs is enough to win today. Go Reds! Let's get the sweep!

Big Klu
07-18-2010, 02:04 PM
How is this a "Sunday Special" (I hate that term), other than the fact that today happens to be Sunday? Looks like a lot of regulars in the lineup.

C: Miller is starting behind the plate for Hanigan, but Dusty often starts his other catcher in a day game following a night game. Also, Corky has a history with Wood.

1B: Votto. Check.

2B: Phillips. Check.

SS: Cabrera. Check. I know that the RedsZone masses are clamoring for Janish, but Orlando is the regular SS. If Janish were in the lineup today, it would actually lend credence to the "Sunday Special" claim.

3B: Cairo is starting for Rolen, who is sick with the flu. Even if Scotty were feeling better today, I'm not sure you would want to put a guy who likely had been somewhat dehydrated by illness in a game on a hot, sunny day for his first game back.

LF: Gomes. Check.

CF: Stubbs. Check.

RF: Nix is starting today. This is somewhat questionable, but most knowledgable Reds fans would agree that Bruce could use a mental day off to clear his head (though I would have done it last night against the lefty De La Rosa, and started Heisey in RF). But Dusty decided to do it today, and start Laynce against the righty. No harm here. Every good Reds manager I've ever heard--Sparky, Pete, Lou, Davey Johnson, Trader Jack--had always stressed the need to get an occasional start for the bench players, so they can get three or four at-bats in a game to keep sharp. That's all Dusty is doing here.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:11 PM
On the 2nd pitch of the game Broken Bat roller to 3rd, 1 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:12 PM
On the 2nd pitch of the AB, fly out to LF - 2 down.

RBA
07-18-2010, 02:13 PM
8 pitches 3 down. Reds coming up.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 02:13 PM
An 8 pitch, 1-2-3 inning for Wood. Nice.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:13 PM
On the 4th pitch of the AB - Gets the K.

Wood threw 1st pitch strikes to all 3 hitters that inning.

Tornon
07-18-2010, 02:14 PM
Travis Wood just looks really good

Big Klu
07-18-2010, 02:14 PM
Homer may have been Pipped.

Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 02:14 PM
This kid is something special. Wow.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:16 PM
Homer may have been Pipped.

I'll take it... Homer can be traded for some pen help...

Phillips fakes bunt on the 1st pitch and takes it for a ball.. Cook comes back with a strike and Phillips takes the 3rd pitch and hits a high bouncer to 3rd and is throw out at 1st. - 1 down.

Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 02:17 PM
O-Cab with a double.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:17 PM
OCab doubles on the 1st pitch seen in the AB.

kbrake
07-18-2010, 02:17 PM
The All Star break appears to have helped someone.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:19 PM
Votto swings and misses. 2 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:21 PM
Slow roller to 3rd, Gomes busting down the line is SAFE at 1st!

1st and 3rd for Nix with 2 outs.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:24 PM
Nix swings at a ball up in his eyes to K.

Tied up at 0-0 at the end of 1

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Nix is terrible. Horrible idea by Dusty to give Bruce the day off. Cook is just the kind of pitcher Jay could've "got well" against. I can't stand Nix.

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Nix swings at a ball up in his eyes to K.

Tied up at 0-0 at the end of 1

I think it was a hit and run, Thom said Gomes was moving on the pitch. I can't see straight stealing Gomes in that spot.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 02:25 PM
Nix is terrible. Horrible idea by Dusty to give Bruce the day off. Cook is just the kind of pitcher Jay could've "got well" against. I can't stand Nix.

Absolutely.

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 02:26 PM
You don't hit and run with two strikes. I think Gomes just got a huge jump and knew he could take the bag because Cook wasn't paying attention to him. Nix just swung at a terrible pitch.

Tornon
07-18-2010, 02:26 PM
I'm guessing Nix must have good career numbers vs. Cook.. that seems to be the only way Dusty puts him in the lineup over Jay

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 02:27 PM
I mean, if not for a hell of a catch, Bruce has a three-run HR two nights ago. It's not like he's mired in such a slump that it warrants starting Laynce Nix.

kbrake
07-18-2010, 02:27 PM
I think Bruce needed a day off and I have no problem with that but I don't understand why Heisey doesn't get the start.

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 02:28 PM
I think Bruce needed a day off and I have no problem with that but I don't understand why Heisey doesn't get the start.

There you go. If you are going to give Bruce a day off, how about starting the guy (Heisey) who actually knows how to hit, rather than a guy that doesn't belong in the Majors (Nix).

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Bad throw from Cario pulls Votto off the bag and the runner is safe at 1st.

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 02:29 PM
Not sure why Janish isn't in there. They started Cairo last night. How about give Janish the start today at 3B if Rolen can't go? Dusty didn't exactly wake up with any sharp thoughts this morning.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:31 PM
Wood falls behind the 1st two batters in this inning.... Ends up walking the batter moving Mora to 2nd.

11larkin11
07-18-2010, 02:32 PM
Not sure why Janish isn't in there. They started Cairo last night. How about give Janish the start today at 3B if Rolen can't go? Dusty didn't exactly wake up with any sharp thoughts this morning.

With Hanigan, Rolen, and Bruce out of the lineup, he chose the better offensive player?

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:33 PM
I'm not sure where that pitch missed?

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 02:33 PM
Just fired up the laptop on the couch here...finished my coffee and donuts. (Donuts, mmmmmmm...) and here's my observations so far.

Travis Wood looks like he's meditating out there...a lot of deep breathing and a blank stare like he's envisioning the next pitch blowing past the batter. He's cool as a cucumber.

OCab looks rested.

Aaron Cook's slider is downright nasty for lefties...I'm glad Bruce is sitting, although I wish Heisey was in there.

Gomes really gets down the line fast for a righty when he hits the ball...he's got a little Peter Edward in him.

Cairo made a classic Ed Encarnacion play at 3rd...slow feet make for poor throws.

I really love watching this team.

GO REDS!!! :thumbup:

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 02:35 PM
Pitcher's best friend!! :thumbup:

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:35 PM
Heck of a double play right there... OCab in the hole on a smash turns to Phillips, Phillips misses the slide coming into 2nd with a money throw to Votto at 1st.

Mora to 3rd, 2 down.

11larkin11
07-18-2010, 02:35 PM
Fantastic double play from that crappy defender OCab and the Gold Glover Phillips.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:37 PM
Wood misses up and in and walks his 2nd batter of the inning... Barmes up

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:38 PM
Fly out to Stubbs in RCF. Wood gets out of his own trouble with the 2 walks.

0-0 after 1.5

JaxRed
07-18-2010, 02:38 PM
Wood ERA below 2.00

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Despite a rougher inning, Wood escapes. No score in the middle of 2.

Wood threw 27 pitches that inning, 35 total after two. His season ERA is now 1.99.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Fly out to Stubbs in RCF. Wood gets out of his own trouble with the 2 walks.

0-0 after 1.5
Well, some of that was Cairo's troublle, but yeah Travis walked a pair. ;)

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 02:39 PM
It's not often you can commit an error, walk two, and not allow a run. You have to give props to the kid for wiggling out of that.

redsmetz
07-18-2010, 02:39 PM
I'm guessing Nix must have good career numbers vs. Cook.. that seems to be the only way Dusty puts him in the lineup over Jay

Not sure if anyone answered this, but he's 3 for 6 lifetime with one double off of Cook.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:40 PM
Miggy grounds out to 2nd on the 1st pitch of the AB.

CrackerJack
07-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Having Bob Boone flashbacks after viewing lineup today, a reason I vowed never to go to a game on Sunday again.

Edd Roush
07-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Cairo could not be having a worse game today. Hate seeing him playing a day game after a night game. Even Dusty's ridiculousness of Janish at third with OCab at SS would be better than Cairo.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Stubbs gets on base the old fashion way... HBP.

Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 02:43 PM
Cairo could not be having a worse game today. Hate seeing him playing a day game after a night game. Even Dusty's ridiculousness of Janish at third with OCab at SS would be better than Cairo.
His beard is good though.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:45 PM
His beard is good though.

So does Corky but that doesn't mean anything. Stubbs was running on the play where Corky grounds to SS. Saves the DP. Corky out at 1st, Stubbs to 2nd - 2 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:46 PM
Stubbs baits Cook into throwing the ball into CF, Stubbs goes to 3rd.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 02:46 PM
Stubbs is freaking out Cook.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:47 PM
Wood grounds out to 2nd.

After 2 0-0

MikeS21
07-18-2010, 02:47 PM
Say what you will about Stubbs ... but I like the kid!

Homer Bailey
07-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Fantastic double play from that crappy defender OCab and the Gold Glover Phillips.

Stubbs is a crappy defender.

See I can say false things too!

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Wood K's Cook on 3

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:52 PM
Wood K's Folwer on 4.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 02:52 PM
I agree! When he's on the bases, the whole game changes.:D Truthfully, I think this team has a little bit of everything. all the complaining about this that or the other thing are mostly nitpicks IMO. This team has it all...they're maybe one reliever from having everything.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:53 PM
1-2-3 3rd for Wood.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:56 PM
Phillips grounds out to the 2nd basemen who makes a decent play over the bag.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:56 PM
OCab singles to LCF. Joey Votto up... :)

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:57 PM
Votto line drive single to LF. OCab moves up to 2nd, Votto to 1st.

Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 02:58 PM
Herrera ROBS Gomes of a hit. Damn.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:58 PM
Woah! Gomes hits one up the middle but some how the 2nd basemen comes up with a heck of play to get Gomes at 1st. Runners move up

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 02:59 PM
Woah Woah! Nix is getting a free pass?

Tom Servo
07-18-2010, 02:59 PM
IBB to Nix. Make 'em pay Miggy!

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 02:59 PM
ED just seems like a first class guy. Love having him around.

BCubb2003
07-18-2010, 02:59 PM
I love the way Eric Davis says "we" about the Reds.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 03:00 PM
Woah Woah! Nix is getting a free pass?

Respecyt!

Big Klu
07-18-2010, 03:01 PM
I love the way Eric Davis says "we" about the Reds.

He's entitled. :thumbup:

reds44
07-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Quality AB by Cairo.

Degenerate39
07-18-2010, 03:01 PM
I really dislike Cairo

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:01 PM
Miggy pounds one into the dirt at home....

Bases were loaded, now the inning is over...

After 3, 0-0

11larkin11
07-18-2010, 03:02 PM
Travis Wood getting the Aaron Harang run support.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 03:02 PM
With Harang out of the rotation for the moment, Wood seems ike the new guy who is not getting any run support.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:02 PM
ED just seems like a first class guy. Love having him around.
They had Larkin in the booth yesterday. Both of them are just fine examples of human beings and a huge part of what it means to be a Cincinnati Red. I love seeing them around the new Reds.

Tornon
07-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Travis Wood getting the Aaron Harang run support.

More like the Matt Maloney run support right now

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:04 PM
Slow roller down to 3rd and Cario handles it well this time. 1 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:05 PM
Cario does it well again... 2 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:06 PM
1st hit of the game comes with 2 outs in the 4th.

11larkin11
07-18-2010, 03:06 PM
Spillborghs breaks up the no-no.

Don't tell me you weren't all already thinking it :)

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 03:06 PM
First hit...there goes the no-no.

CrackerJack
07-18-2010, 03:06 PM
With Harang out of the rotation for the moment, Wood seems ike the new guy who is not getting any run support.

Yeah I'd say just look at the lineup today, but he got no favor the last time out either.

kbrake
07-18-2010, 03:09 PM
With Harang out of the rotation for the moment, Wood seems ike the new guy who is not getting any run support.

Well when you run into Santana, Halladay, and then you get this lineup you're going to struggle to get runs put up.

TheNext44
07-18-2010, 03:09 PM
They had Larkin in the booth yesterday. Both of them are just fine examples of human beings and a huge part of what it means to be a Cincinnati Red. I love seeing them around the new Reds.

Couldn't agree more. Hearing both these guys this weekend made me proud to be a Reds fan. And they seemed to double the booth's IQ when they were in it.

I know they both do some work for Reds part time, but I would love to see both of them working full time for the Reds. They both are probably too smart for that, however.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:11 PM
Couldn't agree more. Hearing both these guys this weekend made me proud to be a Reds fan. And they seemed to double the booth's IQ when they were in it.

I know they both do some work for Reds part time, but I would love to see both of them working full time for the Reds. They both are probably too s,art for that, however.

At some point, I think you'll see Larkin in the booth with Welch. Marty aint getting any younger and once he is fully retired I think Thom will take his spot in the radio booth leaving an open seat for Larkin to come in.

In the mean time... Single up the middle.... Runner goes 1st to 3rd.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:13 PM
Wood is struggling with his control... ANother walk loads the bases... Barmes up

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Wood gets him to pop up to Votto at 1st. Inning over

After 3.5 0-0

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 03:14 PM
Wood at 64 pitches after 4 innings. No score.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:15 PM
Mid-game random thought: With Volquez back and Wood in the rotation, plus Arroyo and Leake, the Reds will probably set a record for most shampoo and conditioner used by a rotation. These guys got some hair! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool15.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:18 PM
Mid-game random thought: With Volquez back and Wood in the rotation, plus Arroyo and Leake, the Reds will probably set a record for most shampoo and conditioner used by a rotation. These guys got some hair! http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-cool15.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

:thumbup:

Corky lines single up the midddle.

kbrake
07-18-2010, 03:18 PM
Let Wood swing.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Let Wood swing.

Here comes the sac bunt with the slowest runner possible on 1st.

kbrake
07-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Here comes the sac bunt with the slowest runner possible on 1st.

Even with Corky at 2nd it will most likely take a triple for him to score.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:19 PM
Pass Ball moves up Corky...

11larkin11
07-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Wood gets the job done. Sorta.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:21 PM
Wood K's

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:21 PM
That Travis Wood swing really made me laugh out loud. Cartoonish!

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:22 PM
Phillips hits it hard at the 2nd basement for the 3rd out.

After 4 full, 0-0

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 03:23 PM
Off topic but am I blind or is the Cardinals/Dodgers game not on MLB Extra Innings? I can't find it anywhere on Direct TV.

Ron Madden
07-18-2010, 03:24 PM
Jim Maloney is going to join Thom and Jeff in the booth.

Jim Maloney was one of my childhood heroes.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Wood gets another K.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Travis is in the middle of another pitcher's duel...we've got 6 baserunners in four innings, so I'm thinking we'll get on the board soon. ;)

BCubb2003
07-18-2010, 03:28 PM
Jim Maloney is going to join Thom and Jeff in the booth.

Jim Maloney was one of my childhood heroes.

He was one of the most underrated. He could hold his own with Koufax and Gibson.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:29 PM
Wood walks the batter after behing ahead of the hitter....

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:31 PM
Fly out to CF, 2 down - Runner on 1st.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:34 PM
HA! Did you see Joey try the old fake throw back to the pitcher with a quick tag to try to fool Fowler? That was funny. :lol:

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:35 PM
Wood gassed him... Struck him out swinging.... Inning over..

After 4.5, 0-0

I'm feeling some hits/runs this inning.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 03:35 PM
Gonzalez Ks swinging. Wood through five shutout innings iwith 86 pitches.

BCubb2003
07-18-2010, 03:37 PM
That was a dramatic bat-tossing by Gonzalez.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:38 PM
OCab swings at one that would of hit Joey Votto in the foot... K's - 1 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Votto lifts a high fly to CF, just a few feet short of the track.... 1 pitch swinging

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:40 PM
Gomes grounds out to 3rd, 1-2-3 inning...

So I was wrong...

After 5, 0-0

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 03:40 PM
7 pitch inning for Cook. Cook through five innings on only 56 pitches.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:44 PM
Wood gets his 6th K, looking - 1 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:47 PM
Broken Bat, Slow Roller to SS, 2 down.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:48 PM
Wood now at 100 pitches for the game. Probably his last inning of work.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:49 PM
Ianetta hits a solo HR to LF on a bad placed change up.

Rocks 1-0

CTA513
07-18-2010, 03:50 PM
Needed to be near perfect again.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:51 PM
Wood walks his 4th batter of the game... Still 2 down...

Masset up and ready in the pen.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:52 PM
Miller and Price come out to chat with Wood who stays in the game...

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:53 PM
The guys better score some runs for this kid. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angry019.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:53 PM
Inning over with a line out to CF.

After 5.5, Rocks 1-0

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:56 PM
Nix 1st pitch swinging flys out to CF.

Cook has walked 40 batters in 99 IPs coming into today.

CarolinaRedleg
07-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Don't make Cook work or anything, these guys have a plane to catch, after all....:rolleyes:

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Miggy swings at the 2nd pitch of the AB and grounds out to 3rd.

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 03:58 PM
I hate Sunday baseball.....

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 03:58 PM
Stubbs legs out an IF single to 2nd... Herrera made a heck of play.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 03:59 PM
Their second baseman is almost as good with the leather as ours. :eek: But nobody could get Stubbs on that play. :cool:

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:00 PM
Bruce is on deck... Miller still at bat... No Pitches have been thrown.

TheNext44
07-18-2010, 04:00 PM
Every time Stubbs hits a grounder, I feel like he has a chance to beat it out. Every time.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:01 PM
Cook still really worried about Stubbs... Hopefully, we can do something with him this time. :pray:

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:03 PM
Corky grounds out to end the inning...

Rocks still up 1-0

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:04 PM
Masset on the bump

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:06 PM
Masset gets the K

VR
07-18-2010, 04:06 PM
I really don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there, especially w/ two strikes. He has become a statue over there.

He has not been caught stealing since MAY 26TH. In that time.....7 weeks, he has attempted to steal only 6 times. 6!

Anyone have any insight or theory?

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:07 PM
Grounder to Votto... Votto to Masset - 2 down

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:07 PM
I really don't understand why Stubbs wasn't stealing there, especially w/ two strikes. He has become a statue over there.

He has not been caught stealing since MAY 26TH. In that time.....7 weeks, he has attempted to steal only 6 times. 6!

Anyone have any insight or theory?

I think everyone is wondering the same thing...

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Nix, Cairo, and Miller not really siezing theiir opportunities today... Maybe we'll get to see more Heisey and Janish going forward. I'm sure when Hernandez is healthy it will be the end of the Corky Miller show. He's pretty good for AAAA filler, but he's no Major Leaguer.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Foul out to OCab behind 3rd base...

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Who's leading off the Reds half of the 7th?

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:09 PM
Who's leading off the Reds half of the 7th?

Bruce? Gonna be a PH, just not sure yet...

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:11 PM
Foul out to OCab behind 3rd base... IMO This game should prove that OCab needs extra days off throughout the season. He's worlds better with fresh legs! :thumbup: Dusty should treat him like Rolen, but give him different days off.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:12 PM
IMO This game should prove that OCab needs extra days off throughout the season. He's worlds better with fresh legs! :thumbup: Dusty should treat him like Rolen, but give him different days off.

I agree 100% He has been on base 5 out of 7 times the last 2 games....

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:12 PM
I think everyone is wondering the same thing...

I couldn't stand when Taveras wouldn't run. I've been seeing a bit too much of that from Stubbs lately.

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Bruce just looks lost.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Bruce strikes out swinging at a pitch above his shoulders....

reds44
07-18-2010, 04:14 PM
Dear God.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:15 PM
Cook is throwing the ball really well... Who is going to wake up?

VR
07-18-2010, 04:16 PM
Bruce just looks lost.

that's phrase that's often hyperbole. In this case it is spot on. He shouldn't be starting, or playing, until he can get that swing tuned down a few notches.

Jay looks to be a guy that can't just shake it off, he's wearing it like a millstone around his neck in his all around game.

VR
07-18-2010, 04:17 PM
Cook is throwing the ball really well... Who is going to wake up?

Is Rolen available to PH later?

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:17 PM
Is Rolen available to PH later?

I haven't seen any updates on Rolen today... He was last night as a last option out of player type deal.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Cook is throwing the ball really well... Who is going to wake up?Looks like BPhil will at least make him work for it...:thumbup:

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Solid AB here from Phillips. I love seeing a leadoff hitter work the count, and even more I like seeing them work back from 0-2 to a full count.

VR
07-18-2010, 04:19 PM
I don't like BP swinging at balls, but man, you have to love how he has tuned his swing down with two strikes this year.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:19 PM
Heck of a AB from Phillips, but pops out to CF. Just missed it.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:19 PM
OCab flys out to right on the 1st pitch.

reds44
07-18-2010, 04:19 PM
And then OC swings at the first pitch.

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 04:19 PM
Phillips has an 11 pitch at bat. Cabrera has a one pitch at bat.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:20 PM
Wow. Talk about a change in approach. 1st pitch...gone.

In 3 of his AB's today....4 pitches total.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:20 PM
Phillips works and works Cook, then OCab boots it.....So frustrating....

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 04:20 PM
Have I said that I hate Sunday baseball yet?

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:21 PM
Phillips has an 11 pitch at bat. Cabrera has a one pitch at bat.

Phillips = 11*Cabrera

CrackerJack
07-18-2010, 04:21 PM
Please not another 1-0 loss.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:22 PM
Arthur on the bump

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:22 PM
Cabrera did not excute. But that was a very hittable pitch. Don't knock him for swinging.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:25 PM
Heck of a play at 1st from Votto.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:25 PM
Cabrera did not excute. But that was a very hittable pitch. Don't knock him for swinging.

The problem wasn't that ONE ab....it was the continuing trend of him swinging at the first pitch. Yes, THAT one was hittable...but more often than not...they're NOT.

BCubb2003
07-18-2010, 04:26 PM
Votto's defense has really blossomed. I think it's hard work and playing next to Phillips.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:27 PM
25,159 attendance - Shame... I was hoping 30+ for todays game...

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:28 PM
The problem wasn't that ONE ab....it was the continuing trend of him swinging at the first pitch. Yes, THAT one was hittable...but more often than not...they're NOT.

Before adding in today's stats, Orlando Cabrera (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3739) has a 2010 first pitch line of .231/.222/.288 for an OPS of.510, with 0 HRs when he puts it into play, a fair bit lower than his overall numbers.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:28 PM
1-2-3 from Rhodes. Solid.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:29 PM
1-2-3 8th for Rhodes...

Votto, Gomes, Nix due....

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:29 PM
Before adding in today's stats, Orlando Cabrera (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3739) has a 2010 first pitch line of .231/.222/.288 for an OPS of.510, with 0 HRs when he puts it inot play, a fair bit lower than his overall numbers.

Okay, I was just going by my observations...but stats to back it up...bonus. :beerme:

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:30 PM
The problem wasn't that ONE ab....it was the continuing trend of him swinging at the first pitch. Yes, THAT one was hittable...but more often than not...they're NOT.

Then don't knock that AB. Some on here did.

wait...let me clarify

Then don't knock THAT AB. SOME on here did.

much better

VR
07-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Cabrera leading the league in fewest p/pa at 3.34
Gomes 6th at 3.46
Phillips 16th at 3.64
Bruce 26th at 3.73

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Wow...Cook out.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Rockies going to their pen....

Lets get the bats ready...

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Cook is done....interesting. Biemel in.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:31 PM
Before adding in today's stats, Orlando Cabrera (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/splits?playerId=3739) has a 2010 first pitch line of .231/.222/.288 for an OPS of.510, with 0 HRs when he puts it into play, a fair bit lower than his overall numbers.
You guys DO know he's 2 for 4 today and 5 for 10 with a BB this series? ;) He's the best SS in our organization when he's rested. (Hint, hint, Dusty!!)

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:32 PM
If I'm a Rockies fan I don't like this move.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:32 PM
Dodgers score in the top of the 5th, now up 1-0 over Cards.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:32 PM
My point was that I think he goes up there with an agenda in mind before the AB even starts. Yes, that pitch was hittable, but I'm not so sure he wouldn't have been swinging if it WASN'T hittable. His trend on this topic is beyond disturbing. Especially for a guy right around the top of the lineup. Those guys are supposed to work the count more to make the pitcher work AND to allow his teammates to see more of his stuff.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:33 PM
Votto reaches and grounds one to 2nd - 1 down.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:33 PM
Cabrera leading the league in fewest p/pa at 3.34
Gomes 6th at 3.46
Phillips 16th at 3.64
Bruce 26th at 3.73

THAT is a telling stat.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:34 PM
You guys DO know he's 2 for 4 today and 5 for 10 with a BB this series? ;) He's the best SS in our organization when he's rested. (Hint, hint, Dusty!!)

I'm not knocking him, but he is better when he doesn't swing at the first pitch.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:34 PM
My point was that I think he goes up there with an agenda in mind before the AB even starts. Yes, that pitch was hittable, but I'm not so sure he wouldn't have been swinging if it WASN'T hittable. His trend on this topic is beyond disturbing. Especially for a guy right around the top of the lineup. Those guys are supposed to work the count more to make the pitcher work AND to allow his teammates to see more of his stuff.

I agree but in the specific situation that Cabrera was being slammed for, Cook just gave off an 11 pitch AB. Many times the first pitch to the next batter is very hittable...if it is you gotta pounce. No argument here that there is too much first pitch swinging...but when there is a 1st pitch that is grooved down the middle...thats not the time to complain...that pitch needs to be swung at.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:35 PM
I agree but in the specific situation that Cabrera was being slammed for, Cook just gave off an 11 pitch AB. Many times the first pitch to the next batter is very hittable...if it is you gotta pounce. No argument here that there is too much first pitch swinging...but when there is a 1st pitch that is grooved down the middle...thats not the time to complain...that pitch needs to be swung at.

Fair point. I agree.

Janish would've got a hit on it. *grin*

VR
07-18-2010, 04:35 PM
My point was that I think he goes up there with an agenda in mind before the AB even starts. Yes, that pitch was hittable, but I'm not so sure he wouldn't have been swinging if it WASN'T hittable. His trend on this topic is beyond disturbing. Especially for a guy right around the top of the lineup. Those guys are supposed to work the count more to make the pitcher work AND to allow his teammates to see more of his stuff.

His OPS on 0-2, 1-2, is .309. I think his agenda is to not get to 2 strikes.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:36 PM
Fair point. I agree.

:beerme:

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:38 PM
Gomes pops out to the shorstop in shallow left.

VR
07-18-2010, 04:38 PM
Looks like Heisey will have to be the hero today.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:39 PM
Come on guys!! One swing can tie this thing up!! :beerme:

VR
07-18-2010, 04:39 PM
actually, I think Nix is gonna tear into one here.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:39 PM
Come on guys!! One swing can tie this thing up!! :beerme:

That is the way Nix swings EVERY time he is up....

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:41 PM
Good job by Laynce not chasing....so far.

I know lots here have soured on Nix, but I still think he's a valuable bench player.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:43 PM
Come on Nix get one of these.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:44 PM
Thats 3 that he has had to drive.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:44 PM
0-2...works it full and now an 11 pitch ab. Nice job of fighting them off.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Ughhh... Frustrating!

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Darn. Solid ab though. We're gonna bust through. We WILL win this game.

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 04:45 PM
I thought deep at bats were supposed to favor hitters?

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Then pops out to the shortstop.....

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Nix is beyond horrible. Nice work on the lineup today Dusty! The Reds can definitely afford to give away games considering the division will probably be decided by a game or two.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:47 PM
Ondrusek in.

Tell us how you REALLY feel Blitz. :O)

guttle11
07-18-2010, 04:47 PM
Nix is beyond horrible. Nice work on the lineup today Dusty! The Reds can definitely afford to give away games considering the division will probably be decided by a game or two.

Let's see, Rolen is sick and Bruce has been terrible himself.

The rest are everyday starters, or the preferred catching mustache. Ain't Dusty's fault. Just a bad day.

Mario-Rijo
07-18-2010, 04:48 PM
Nix is beyond horrible. Nice work on the lineup today Dusty! The Reds can definitely afford to give away games considering the division will probably be decided by a game or two.

I have to agree unfortunately on Nix, at one point he even peeked over to see where the catcher was (Ianetta setting up way too early) and still couldn't do anything with it. It wasn't like Betancourt was throwing anything other than fastballs to him. If you can't hit what you know is coming and where I don't know what to say about ya.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 04:48 PM
It's like the Reds have 9 jay bruces in their lineup today.... ;)

Via Twitter/Griffey85

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:48 PM
Never fear everyone...

Cairo,Miller,Heisey

(Heisey doesn't deserve my mockery but just go with it :))

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:49 PM
I have to agree unfortunately on Nix, at one point he even peeked over to see where the catcher was (Ianetta setting up way too early) and still couldn't do anything with it. It wasn't like Betancourt was throwing anything other than fastballs to him. If you can't hit what you know is coming and where I don't know what to say about ya.

hehe. You make it sound like it's EASY to hit mid 90's fastballs. I don't care WHERE they are...it ain't easy.

oneupper
07-18-2010, 04:50 PM
So much for missing Jimenez. :(

membengal
07-18-2010, 04:50 PM
Let's see, Rolen is sick and Bruce has been terrible himself.

The rest are everyday starters, or the preferred catching mustache. Ain't Dusty's fault. Just a bad day.

Janish instead of Cairo. Heisey instead of Nix. It's not that hard. Cairo just played last night and it is a day game after a night game and hot as hades.

Not a great lineup, sorry.

Ghosts of 1990
07-18-2010, 04:50 PM
I'm so tired of us going out there on Sundays and having these same flat performances... I'm tired of it. It's almost annual.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:51 PM
Logan going on 12 straight scoreless innings. He's been really solid.

Ghosts of 1990
07-18-2010, 04:52 PM
I really hate this team on given days. HATE them. It's a funny group. Sometimes I love them, and sometimes I hate them. In the past I was so indifferent on our teams, like the past five or so years. Not love, not hate. This year, I really hate them on most sundays and especially in the early going of the season.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2010, 04:52 PM
A blown call there. A good play by Cabrera and Votto's foot never left the base.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:52 PM
A blown call there. A good play by Cabrera and Votto's foot never left the base.

Not much complaining from Votto at all...suprising...looked good to me.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:52 PM
Close play, but I think they missed that one. Kinda hard to argue TOO much. It was pretty much a bang bang play.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:53 PM
Double switch. Bray in and Heisey in for Nix

BCubb2003
07-18-2010, 04:54 PM
If you can line up Phillips, Votto and a healthy Rolen, you'll have tough innings for the opposing pitcher more often than not. Without Rolen, and Votto a little off, there are too many safe spots and easy innings.

VR
07-18-2010, 04:54 PM
Logan going on 12 straight scoreless innings. He's been really solid.

He's given up 1 run over his last 17 1/3 inning (.52 earnie).....2 in the 17 2/3 innings since his return.

I don't mind losing a game like this when we can see the pitching staff really coming into focus for the 2nd half.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Nix is beyond horrible. Nice work on the lineup today Dusty! The Reds can definitely afford to give away games considering the division will probably be decided by a game or two.

Heisey should have played. Before the game today, Nix was hitting .231/.265/.407 for an OPS of .672. Today he is 0 for 3 with a walk.

Overall, Heisey is hitting .286/.378/.557 for an OPS of .935. Now admittedly he is right handed, But Heisey's splits against righties are even better than his overall line: .394/.474/.697 for an OPS of 1.171.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Hmm I forget about Stubbs being up this half...he's our hope.

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2010, 04:56 PM
One last chance with Cairo, Stubbs and Miller.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Another pop out to the 'stache. Bottom of the ninth...last shot. 1-0 Rocks.

RED VAN HOT
07-18-2010, 04:57 PM
Ok, Reds. Let's not get ourselves out aggressively going after bad pitches.

Ghosts of 1990
07-18-2010, 04:57 PM
One last chance with Cairo, Stubbs and Miller.

oh brother.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 04:57 PM
Can we pinch hit Rolen for Cairo and Hanigan for Miller? http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-angelic006.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

VR
07-18-2010, 04:57 PM
Nice job again by Bray. He's given up 1 hit in nearly 2 1/2 weeks.

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 04:59 PM
Nice job again by Bray. He's given up 1 hit in nearly 2 1/2 weeks.

Subtract that one inning meltdown in Philly and the whole staff has been excellent of late.

mbgrayson
07-18-2010, 05:00 PM
Terrible AB there by Cairo, who Ks swinging at an outside breaking ball.

oneupper
07-18-2010, 05:00 PM
Ok, Reds. Let's not get ourselves out aggressively going after bad pitches.

Famous lost words.

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 05:01 PM
Nix and Cairo batting back-to-back in the middle of the lineup==waiving the white flag.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 05:01 PM
Huston Street angainst Miguel Cairo. Couldn't we just have forfeited that AB? I didn't need to see it. :(

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 05:01 PM
Nice take Drew 1-1

_Sir_Charles_
07-18-2010, 05:01 PM
Hanny on deck.

WebScorpion
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Hanny on deck.
Thank you Dusty! :thumbup:

redsfaninbsg
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Stubbs has to run.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Single!

Mario-Rijo
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Advantage Street here, big time dude.

Blitz Dorsey
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Nice! There's the bloop, now let's get the blast.

RedsMan3203
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Stubbys should have the green light...

Reds Fanatic
07-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Stubbs singles.

kaldaniels
07-18-2010, 05:03 PM
1st pitch. Go.

Mario-Rijo
07-18-2010, 05:03 PM
Advantage Street here, big time dude.

Way to bloop one Drew!